General Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 23, 24 September - 26 December 1919, Part 9

19  11  19

BUCKINGHAM PALACE.

The Queen and I wish you God-speed,

and a safe return to your homes and dear ones.

A grateful Mother Country is proud of your 

splendid services characterized by unsurpassed devotion and courage.

George R.I.

24.11.19

INDEX.

Embarkations from U.K. from December 1918 to

November 1919, showing ships and numbers

carried.

A.I.F. in Europe as at midnight 7-8 November, 1919.

A.I.F. in Europe as at midnight 13-14 Novemberr 1919

(in duplicate).

A.I.F. Weekly Balance Sheet, August to November, 1919.

Demob. Return A.44 for week ending 7.11.19.

Letter from Genl. Jess re increased rate subsistence

allowance.

Letter from Col Ridley re distribution Demob. History.

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CCR/ERC

DEPT. OF REPATRIATION AND DEMOBILISATION.

AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE.

54 VOCTORIA STREET, LONDON, S.W.1.

CABLE & TEL ADDRESS:

"DEMOBAUST, LONDON'

TELEPHONES:

VICTORIA 8860 (2 LINES)

REPLY COMMUNICATIONS

SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO THE DEPARTMENT.

IN REPLY PLEASE QUOTE

....D......

13th November 1919.

To/

Lieut.-General Sir John Monash, G.C.M.G., &c.

One copy of Distribution of the  "History of

the Department of Repatriation & Demobilisation" is

forwarded herein for information.

160 copies , as per schedule, have been packed

and placed on H.M.A.T. "Ormonde", the O.C. Troops being 

charged with the responsibility of delivery to the Department

of Defence.

A letter has been forwarded to Defence, requesting

distribution of the copies to the persons

enumerated in the schedule resident in Australia.

C.C. Ridley

Lieut.-Colonel.

Director.

Repatriation & Demobilisation. A.I.F.
Enclosed Schedule.

AN/ERC

"HISTORY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REPATRIATION & DEMOBILISATION"

DISTRIBUTION

	Copies
Lieut.-General Sir John Monash, G.C.M.G., &c.	20
Headquarters, A.I.F.	20
Secretary, War Office.	10
High Commissioner for Canada.	6
High Commissioner for New Zealand.	6
High Commissioner for South Africa.	6
High Commissioner for Australia.	6
Branch D.	2
Branch 1.D.	4
Branch 2.D.	3
Branch 4.D.	2
Branch 5.D.	2
Branch 1.D.2	3
Australian Red Cross.	2
Australian Comforts Fund.	2
Australian Y.M.C.A.	2
Headquarters, A.I.F. Depots in the U.K.	3
Fowarded to Department of Defence for Distrbution in Australia.	160

Army Commanders and Others

Field Marshal Earl Haig, K.T., &c., Horse Guards, Whitehall.	3
Field Marshal Lord French, K.P., &c., Dublin.	2
Field Marshal Sir H.S.Rawlinson, Bt., G.C.V.O., &c.,c/o War Office.	2
Field Marshal Sir H.H.Wilson, K.C.B., &c., c/o War Office.	2
Field Marshal Sir W.R.Robertson, G.C.B., &c., York House, St. James' Palace, W.	2
Field Marshal Sir H.C.O.Plumer, G.C.B., &c., c/o War Office.	1
Field Marshal Viscount Allenby, G.C.B. &c., c/o War Office.	3
Field Marshal the Earl of Cavan, K.P., &c., c/o War Office.	1
Lieut-General Sir J.G.Maxwell, G.C.B., &c., c/o War Office.	1
Lieut.-General Sir A.J.Godley, K.C.B. &c., c/o War Office.	2
General Sir H.S.Horne, K.C.B., &c., c/o War Office.	1
General Sir J.H.G.Byng, K.C.B., &c., c/o War Office.	1
Lieut.-General Sir H.V.Cox, K.C.B., India Office, Whitehall.	2
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2.

Forward	Copies  282
General Sir H.de la P.Gough, K.C.B., c/o War Office.	1
General Sir C.C.Monro, G.C.M.G., c/o War Office.	1
General Sir Ian Hamilton, G.C.B., c/o War Office	2
General Sir A.J.Murray, G.C.M.G., &c., G.O.C. in Chief, Aldershot Command, Aldershot.	1
Major-General E.C.Sinclair MacLagan, C.B., D.S.O., c/o War Office.	1
Major-General H.W.Hodgson, C.B., C.V.O., c/o War Office.	1
Major-General N.M.Smyth, V.C., C.B., c/o War Office	1
Brig.-General R.A.Carruthers, C.B., C.M.G., c/o War Office.	1
Brig.-General C.S.Davies, D.S.O., c/o War Office.	1
Brig.-General SIr E.W.C.Chaytor, K.C.M.G., C.B., c/o Military Headquarters, New Zealand.	1
Colonel Lord Corell, M.C., D.D. of Staff Duties, (Eduacation), War Office.	2
Brig.-General C.H.Jess, C.M.G., D.S.O. Headquarters, A.I.F.	1
Colonel Barraclough, O.C. Munition Workers, Australia House.	1
Commander Parker, Australia House.	2
Lieut.-Colonel Brownrigg, Park Buildings, St.James' Park, S.W.	1
Lieut.-Colonel T.F.Berwick, D.S.O., c/o A.I.F. Headquarters.	1
Lieut.-Colonel J.L.Whitham, C.M.G., D.S.O., c/o A.I.F. H'quarters.	1
Lieut.-Colonel G.C.Somerville, C.M.G., D.S.O., Staff College, Camberley.	1
Lieut.-Colonel W.E.Dexter, D.S.O., M.C., D.C.M., c/o A.I.F. H'qtrs.	1
Sister Galloway, c/o A.I.F. Headquarters.	1
Major C.C.Wren, M.C., Australian Liaison, Repatriation Records Office, Winchester.	1
Brig.-General I.G.Mackay, C.M.G., D.S.O.,  c/o A.I.F. Headquarters.	1
Colonel W.H.Tunbridge, C.B., C.M.G., V.D., c/o A.I.F. Headquarters.	1
Brig.-General Sir R.N.McC.Anderson, c/o High Commissioner, Australia House.	1

To be placed on "Ormonde"

General Sir W.R.Birdwood, G.C.M.G., &c.	6
Brig.-General E.A.Wisdom, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General J.P.McGlinn, C.M.G., C.B.E., V.D.	1
Colonel J.H.Bruche, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General J.C.Robertson.	1
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"HISTORY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REPATRIATION & DEMOBILISATION"

To be sent to Department of Defence for

Distribution in Australia.

	Copies
Department of Defence.	20
Repatriation Department.	20
Prime Minister of Australia.	6
Minister of Defence.	6
District Headquarters. (6 each)	36
Lieut.-General Sir C.B.B.White, K.C.M.G., C.B., D.S.O.	2
Lieut.-General Sir H.G.Chauvel, K.C.B., K.C.M.G.	2
Major-General Sir J.W.McCay, K.C.M.G., C.B., V.D.	2
Major-General Sir F.W.Glasgow, K.C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Major-General Sir C.Rosenthal, K.C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	2
Major-General Sir J.J.Talbot,Hobbs, K.C.B., K.C.M.G., V.D.	1
Major-General Sir J.Gellibrand, K.C.S., D.S.O.	1
Major-General E.Tivey, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Major-General Sir N.R.Howse, V.C., K.C.B.	1
Major-General J.G.Legge, C.B., C.M.G.,	1
Brig.-General C.F.Cox, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O., V.D.	1
Brig.-General T.H.Dodds, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General T.A.Blamey, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General T.Griffiths, C.M.G., C.B.E., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General H.W.Lloyd, C.M.G , D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General W.L.H.Burgess, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General O.F.Phillps, D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General H.W.Grimwade, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General A.J.Bessell Browne, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O. V.D.	1
Brig.-General G. de L.Ryrie, C.B., C.M.G., V.D.	1
Brig.-General L.C.Wilson, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General W.Grant, D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General G.M.M.Onslow, D.S.O., V.D.	1
Brig.-General J.Heane, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General H.G.Bennett, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General E.A.D.Brockman, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General C.H.Brand, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
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Forward	Copies 119
Brig.-General E.F.Martin, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General H.A.Goddard, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General R.L.Leane, C.M.G., D.S.O., M.C.	1
Brig.-General Cannan, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General S.C.E.Herring, D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General J.C.Stewart, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Brig.-General H.E.Elliott, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O., D.C.M.	1
Brig.-General W.R.McNicoll, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	3
Brig.-General Bishop Long.	3
Brig.-General C.H.Foott, C.B., C.M.G.	2
Brig.-General W.A.Coxen, C.B., C.M.G., D.S.O.	2
Brig.-General F.G.Hughes, C.B.	1
Brig.-General G.J.Johnston, C.B., C.M.G., V.D.	1
Brig.-General J.Paton, C.B., C.M.G., V.D.	1
Brig.-General J.M.Antill, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General J.K.Forsyth, C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General V.Selheim, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General E.T.Wallack, C.B., C.M.G.	1
Brig.-General R.Smith, C.M.G., D.S.O.	1
Surgeon-General Sir C.S.Ryan, K.C.B., C.M.G., V.D.	1
Colonel C.H.Davis, D.S.O., V.D.	1
Colonel T.J.Thomas.	1
Colonel W.W.R.Watson, C.B., C.M.G., V.D.	1
Colonel R.B.Huxtable, C.M.G., D.S.O., V.D.	1
Colonel B.J.Newmarch, C.M.G., V.D.	1
Colonel E.T.Leane, C.B.E.	1
Lieut.-Colonel D.Fulton, C.M.G., C.B.E.	2
Lieut-Colonel F.G.Newton.	1
Lieut.-Colonel J.Tuckett, M.C., M.M. (A.A.O.C.)	1
Colonel E.A.Kendall, D.S.O. (A.A.V.C.)	1
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10.11.19

A.I.F. Headquarters,

130, Horseferry  Road,

LONDON,

8th November 1919.

My dear General,

I am in receipt of your letter of the 6th

instant relating to the increased rate of subsistence

allowance, and action will be taken to effect immediate

operation.

I am forwarding you herewith, as requested,

copies of the Chief Paymaster's letters on the

subject.

Your sincerely,

J.Monash

Lieutenant-General Sir John Monash, G.C.M.G., K.C.B.,

54 Victoria Street,

LONDON, S.W.1

4th November, 1919.

The Commandant,

A.I.F. Headquarters.

Married A.I.F. Personnel on Indefinite Leave in the

United Kingdom awaiting embarkation.

In connection with the above it is the practice to

pay such personnel a Ration Allowance of 1/9 per diem from

the date they proceed on leave until date of embarkation.

From general observations, and from my experience

in dealing with applications for advances of Deferred Pay, I

am firmly of the opinion that the provision of 1/9 per diem

is not nearly adequate for the requirements of married men

who are living with their dependents. A Private and his

wife are receiving altogether 8/9 per diem including pay 5/-,

Separation Allowance 2/-, Ration Allowance 1/9. The result

is that large numbers of the men have spent all their available 

resources including portion of their accumulated

Deferred Pay, and as far as financial matters are concerned

they are rapidly getting into a hopeless condition.

As it is not the policy of the Department of Repatriation, 

and would not be in the interests of the Commonwealth

to retain these married men in Depots awaiting embarkation,

but rather to give them every encouragement to live with their

dependents, I am of the opinion that a subsistence Allowance

in lieu of Quarters and Rations should be provided instead of

a Ration Allowance only.

The question as to the amount which might reasonably

be paid is a debateable matter, as the cost of living varies

considerably according to locality. The cost is generally

regarded as exceptionally high in London, and I do noth think

the married personnel on indefinite leave should receive so

high a rate of subsistence as personnel employed in London who

are performing service, and are compelled to live in or near

London. Again, personnel on duty at these headquarters are

necessarily called upon to spend money in fares travelling to

and from duty, and in most cases cannot make advantageous

boarding arrangements as many of them have to buy the mid-day

meal at a Restaurant or other Public Place.
A flat rate of 4/- per diem to married personnel on

indefinite leave appears reasonable. The total pay and allowance
to a Private and his wife (exclusive of children) computed
on this basis would be 11/- per diem, composed of:-
5/- Active Pay;
2/- Separation Allowance,
4/- Proposed Subsistence Allowance.
It is suggested that the proposed new rate of 4/-
per diem should be applicable to all married personnel while
on indefinite leave awaiting embarkation, and that the present
rate of 1/9 per diem should apply in all other cases.
I attach hereto a draft cable which might be sent to
Defence Department in the matter.
(Sgd) R. Sabesford Major
Chief Paymaster