General Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 19, 4 June - 24 June 1918, Part 6

11/6/18
Corps Gas officer ·
Major Wilson to go to 5^th Army
He recommends
Lieut Barclay (now at Corps
Gas School)
to be Chem. Adviser
Lieut Harrison (3^rd Div.)
to be Comdt Corps Gas School
Both to be Temp /Captain ·
Smith of 10^th Bgde to be 3^rd Div.
Gas officer.
 

13/6/18

KOJ
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LA

14/6/18
C O P Y.
[*paper by Maj. Gen. Gellibrand.*]
STAFF TRAINING, A.I.F.
1. The learner on Bde.Staff should be not less than 22-23 and for
choice a junior captain or a senior subaltern.
He should have experience as Adjt., Asst. Adjt. or Company Commdr.
and must be likely to qualify as a Bde. Major in the future.
His work should be under the S.C. for the first 4 or 6 weeks,
after which period he should act for the S.C. whilst the latter performs
the duties of Asst.Bde Major.
On conclusion of 3 months, if not appointed S.C., he should attend
an Army or Staff School before returning to duty. He should not
be appointed S.C. unless the Bde. reports that he is likely to
qualify as a B.M.
2. The learners on Divisional Staffs should be either B.M. for G.
work or S.C. for A. or Q., recourse being had if necessary to Bde.
learners.
3. As a rule the S.C. should succeed his Bde.Major, the alternative
being the appointment of G.3 who has served as a Staff Captain.
4. Vacancies as Gs. should be filled by B.M. in order to qualify
as G2. (in lieu of period as learner) or by S.C. prior to return to
a Bde. as B.M.
5. Vacancies as G2 should be filled by B.M. after a tour of
learning, or who have been G3.
6. "Q" should be replaced by a S.C. after a tour as learner, and "A"
should as a rule be filled by a transfer from "Q".
7. The above system could not produce G., and this must be met by
the selection of officers and special training by Division and
Corps.
"AQ" on the other hand should be produced by the inter-change
between A. & Q. provided that the "A's" are given special attention.
8. The case of learners from Corps other than infantry would be
met by Divisions allotting such officers to Infantry Bdes. for
training, the total output of the A.I.F. being reckoned at 60
staff captains a year.
9. The present system of separating "G", "A" & "Q" has the 

disadvantages of "watertight compartments" i.e. the S.C. as a rule is
not concerned with B.M's work and the latter leaves "AQ" questions
alone. This means that S.C. knows nothing of the Line
beyond the Dumps and Bdr. and B.M. never go out together - the
whole G. work falls on 2 officers and at times this is a severe
strain in a Bde.
The "AQ" staff captain is a big handicap to a Brigade.
 

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10. On divisional staffs the separation into "G" and "AQ" is
essential. As regards the former, G3 is practically an
Intelligence officer with limited functions and general knowledge.
As G3 is not recruited from officers of standing, there
is no point in the present G3 understudying G2. as would be
the case if Bde. Major or S.C. were taken for G3. - and the G.
Staff is not as strong as it should be.
The AQ. side is practically recruited from the A.A.S.C.,
which provides all 5 Q's and 3 A's out of 15 appointments.
This policy has little to commend it from the "Q" Side and none
at all from the "A" side - and in addition does not provide for
the raising of AQs. An A.S.C. officer should certainly 

qualify as a Bde.S.C. even though he does not hold that appointment,
in order that he can size up the point of view of the troops
both from Q. & A. aspects.
11. 1t is most desirable to secure the closest possible touch
between staffs and troops, and at present this is not the case,
due to the lack of regimental and brigade experience.
In the 4th Div. only G2 can claim regimental and Bde, work.
In the 5th   "              G1, G2, (G3) are the only ones.
In the 2nd   "             G1 (Bde.& Regtl.) G2?, G3?, AQ.    
 

June 14/18
Corps.                                                                Commander
Cavalry.                     Lt. Gen. Sir C.T. M^cM. Kavanagh, K.C.B. C.V.O .D.S.O.
I Army Corps.              "          Sir Arthur Holland, K.C.B, M.V.O, D.S.O.
II     "        "                     "          Sir C. H. Jacob, K.C.B.
III    "        "                     "          Sir R.H.K. Butler, K.C.M.G, C.B.
IV    "        "                     "          Sir G.M. Harper, K.C.B, D.S.O.
V     "        "                     "          C.D. Shute, C.B, C.M.G.
VI    "        "                     "          Sir J.A.L. Haldane, K.C.B, D.S.O.

 VII  "        "                     "          Sir W.H. Congreve V.C., K.C.B, M.V.O       
VIII  "        "                     "          Sir A. Hunter-Weston, K.C.B, D.S.O.

IX    "        "                     "           Sir A. Hamilton Gordon, K.C.B.
X     "        "                     "           Sir T.L.N. Morland, K.C.B, K.C.M.G, D.S.O.
XI    "        "                     "           Sir R.C.B. Haking K.C.B, K.C.M.G.
XII   "        "                     "           Sir H. de B. De Lisle, K.C.B, D.S.O.
XIII  "        "                     "           Sir T.P. du Cane, K.C.B

XIV  "        "                     "           Sir C. Fergusson, B^r, K.C.R, K.C.M.G, M.V.O, D.S.O

XVIII  "      "                    "            Sir J. Mayse, K.C.B, C.V.O, D.S.O.

XIX   "        "                   "             Sir H.E. Watts, K.C.B, C.M.G.

XXII  "        "                   "             Sir R.T. Godley, K.C.B, K.C.M.G.
Canadian  "   "             "             Sir A.N. Currie, K.C.B, K.C.M.G.

Australian  "  "             "             Sir S. Monash, K.C.B, V.D.—
[*HPBRB*]
 

14/6/18
Reference Papers
in Pannier Stationary Bde
General COX's address of April 16. to 4th Div.
Meridian Times - Table of, Taken from Brown's Star Atlas.
Agenda Papers for Conferences 1916-17.
The Duties of an Officer (An Address in the Field)
Queries for Brigadiers.
Divisional Working Party Table. - Pro Forma.
Transport on Line of March, Operations, Standing Orders for.
Stokes Smoke Bomb Demonstration at RAVELSBERG.
Standing Orders & Regs. for Infantry Bn., 3rd Aust. Div., 1918.
Honors & Awards, 3rd Aust. Div.
Motor Vehicles, exchange of in Aust.M.T.Coys. File re TUNBRIDGF.
Combined Protestant Services.  Correspondence with Col. WRAY.
Lectures. To officers - for Juniors, preparation for war
(MOASCAR Jan. 11, 1916.)
Points for Platoon Commdrs. (At MOASCAR 14-2-16.)
Attack, Normal formation for (ARMENTIERES 1-3-17.) 
Precis of. Employment of Machine Guns (5-1-18) GHQ. Small Arms Schl.

to Intelligence Course ("At SHOVEL Camp 14-1-18)    
Notes on, Machine Gun School, G.H.Q. (CAMIERS Feb. 6-7-8,
1918)
Precis of, at Special Course for Commanders & Staff
Officers
To officers - Field Officer of the day, eligible for, Bdes
Three talks to Senior Officers; covering most military
subjects.
[*Pamphlet to 3^rd Div. on Machine Gun Tactics Feby/1918
Third Division Conference Feby 28/18
Lecture on "Giving away Information" - circulated to Aust. Corps.
Agender List of Battle Confidences, June 6 to Aug 28/18
Address to offices 3^rd Division 18/1/18*]
 

Dear Aubrey,
The General rang up this morning
for confirmation of his views as to the
liability of casual collectors of horses –
I fear that I was a trifle incoherent over

the 'phone as am in the middle (at least
I hope I've got the distance) of an attack of
Influenza – so am enclosing a memo. on 

the subject which I hope may not be

too late – Would you kindly put it before

the General.

Hope all goes well with

you.

Kind Regards

From

A. H. Lewis

3^rd DDAQS
JM

 14/6/18

For GOC
am
 

In the absence of authorities enabling a mere detailed ^definition of the liability attached
to unauthorised interference with horses the position would appear to be as follows.
1. Horses, in Stables or Picketted.
Any person removing a horse secured in this manner would prima facis be
guilty of Theft, of horse-stealing, and liable to the severe penalties
attached to this Offence. At Common Law the punishment
was Death for this as for other Felonies and long after this punishment
had been abolished for ^most other Felonies  it survived in the case of
Horse Stealing. Relying on memory penal, servitude is the
maximum punishment laid down in Australia for this Offence
2. Horses, Straying.
(a) If the finder of a Straying horse know, or if he have reasonable grounds
for believing that he can find out the Ownership of the horse. and
notwithstanding this he appropriates takes possession of replacing it appropriating it to his own uses
permanently he would be none the less liable.
But if the original taking possession be innocent e.g. The base fide
believed that in 'salvaging' a stray horse he was acting correctly and
would be justified in retaining it permanently the Offence of Horse.
Stealing or any Crime (as district from a Civil Action) would not be
Constituted, even though on subsequently becoming aware of the
Ownership he determined to retain possession
3. (by Taking possession of a stray horse and using it constitutes an
Offence under the Crimes Act of at least some of the Australian States.
This of Course is in addition to the liabilities imposed on the finders
of horses straying by G.R.O. 1810
A. H. Lewis.
14/6/18