General Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 18, 25 May - 3 June 1918, Part 5

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1 CORPS TOPO SECTION. CotenOar N FI SSE Leny MOM 361 45 4 BHBWUBEN SCO 191OWN3 George w Beach. 18.
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Please tel them I feet confident that fvery I wisth golding will asppeto bea be amuated by the desire to render the utpost sewvife that lies fr his power, and to ape that he will approe at alltimes & under all conditions to be af morte of coldrply conjuct, not only by they sake of the Expise thet to which ou rase ones so truch bet atio he I sake of te prestigg an renown o all English affittng taw t Cy 111 302
An. AnmCoth France June/ 1918 Dear Mr. Hughes. May I begin by welcorning you to this side of the world and to express the hope that your many engagements will connt of your paying a visit to France at no very distant date in order to see something of us, and to pet into personal touch with the troops and Commanders, all of whom are mut anxious for you to visit them. As you know, I have recently been appointed to the Command of the Australian Army Coops, which compriies a slantially the whole of the Anstralian Field Army in France, (although certain Wints of the Coops temporarily detacked). I sha be very glad to entertain you at my Head Quarters, and to try & make you as comfortable as possible; and also to arrange opportunities for your seeing, as many of my troops as the military situation at the time will permit. tall disirous I am personally very an He meetigou in order to opinions before you my sen on certain juestions which have recently been under very active discussion, and in order also to let you hear the opinions of y representative officers on the same subject.- These questions involve the continuance ofhi office of General Birdwood as G.O.C.A.U.F. concurnntly with the excrcise by him of the Army Command to which he has been recently appointed. This arlangement has aloendy been apreed to by the Com. Monwealth Lovernment, and is now asturally in force. - I have been made aware, however, that there is a body of opinion 00r
(to reopen the question and) in London, ld by Mrs Keith Murdock, which wishe to croge upon & your Government you oply that the time is now opportune for relieving dute else General Birdwood of this appointment, & appointing some one, preferably ie to be stationed in England) to exevcise his pres. ent Lumation natually O I am in the aghent degree, as Commander of the whole of the in trances Fighting troops atlly most vitally interested in this quention also believe that I am and so an serol Anotalian officer in Surope, gualified to ovice the opinions of the majos postion of the A.U.P f It in Such a letter as this thi obviously, not apportune to ented, in the short timits of lotter mens of the matter starty into a to discussion of the whole pestion; but I sh the like to be permitted, at the enolinit possible moment, to a to you my very definite and emphatic opinion that, upon every fround, of expedincg sentiment, and in the bests onter. such that ests of the A.U.F., no s change as is proposed, should now be considered, but that the present organization should be left undistrobed. I may say that I am on the best of terms, personally, with Mr Muodock; admire his patristiom and respect his motives, but, upon the question at iisue, I fear that I cntirely (Nos do I admit his right ty be the spolomay of the A.S.F. disafoce with him - It is said but he has urged upon you th that his proposals have received wide, not to say una. -nimous, support from the A.U.F.- If this bo, I wish to cay the you that is whatly misleading and absolutely incorrest. - I will undertake to f fuowish you with mont cansining porf to the avirrnry L pinng het 000
the contrary view is almost universal In point of fast the frast ingporty oout among all senio officers justified to express a veliable opinion. really or whose opinion matter. however Many of no are, on the other hand, quite in sympathy with the crew that Anstratia should be more effectively represented in London, in questions of a more political & sarnorne Character, of a kind which could be ackrived, of Anstratin were to provide a member of the Was Cabinet. - But this as a very different thing from ing the present proposal to totally to military diwrce the higher, Administration of the H.P.P. from the Army in the field; which wrued be the inevitable resuet of so iital present a change in our organigation. - One might also will ask why we should distrot anr asrangement which has worked so well, & has kept the H.T.J. so efficient, so contented, & so entirely tee from intrigue, a cabal of any description. My man puopose, on this latter, is to noge you very strongly upon the matter respectfull to keep an entirely open mind on th pution, it to supert that it would be best to refrain from any intervention in the until you have had an opportunity of visiting France braring discussing & fully considering one views of those of us, in the field, who are really more vitally interested than any one else. Yours very sicerch

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Calendar
AUSTRALIAN

CORPS TOPO
SECTION

1918
George. w Bleach. 18.
[*Three colour process - by Aust. Corps Topo. Section*]

 

June / 1918

4th 3d
Glasgow McNicoll
Hamel Gas accident √
  Hand over 11th for Trg. √

 
Conference (June 30 or 
July 2)
& where
New Defence Scheme.-.
Control of Troops Training
Dowse & McGl.  
  M.G. Co. with Carman       )
c/- Co from N. of Somme )

Bell & Bettrell

to go to MacLagan

 
Said by M.G. Nos. to
Montgomery
 
See C.E. re not using
Pioneers for 1st wk
Sigs fr 2d week.
Army C. to see TK practice 6 killed 25 wounded (gassed)
A.C. & ground near Allonville H in Order.
 

Please tell them how that I feel confident that every Jewish soldier will aspire to be a be animated by the desire to render the utmost service that lies in his power, and to aspire that he will aspire to be ^at all times & under all conditions a model of soldierly conduct, not only for the sake of the Empire which to which our race owes so much but also for the sake of the prestige and renown of all English-speaking Jews.
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Austr. Army Corps
France
June/ 1918
Dear Mr. Hughes.
May I begin by welcoming you to this side of the world
and to express the hope that your many engagements will
first allow
and permit of your paying a visit to France at no very distant date
in order to see something of us, and to get into personal
touch with the troops and Commanders, all of whom are most
anxious for you to visit them.-
As you know, I have recently been appointed to the
Command of the Australian Army Corps, which comprises
substantially the whole of the Australian Field Army in France,
(although ^a certain Units of the Corps are is temporarily detached). I
shallould be very glad to entertain you at my Head Quarters, and
to try &
make you as comfortable as possible; and also to arrange
opportunities for your seeing as many of my troops as the
military situation at the time will permit.
I am personally very anxious to desirous of meeting you in order to put tell
before you my views opinions on certain questions which have recently
been under very active discussion, and in order also to let
you hear the opinions of many representative officers on the
same subject.- These questions involve the continuance of in
office of General Birdwood as G.O.C. A.I.F. concurrently
with the exercise by him of the Army Command to which he has
been recently appointed.-
This arrangement has already been agreed to by the Commonwealth
Government, and is now actually in force. - I
have been made aware, however, that there is a body of opinion

 

in London, led by Mr Keith Murdoch, which wishes ^to reopen the question and to urge upon
you very strongly ^& your Government that the time is now opportune for relieving
General Birdwood of this appointment duty, & appointing some one else,
(preferably in Engl to be stationed in England) to exercise his present
functions.
I am in the highest degree naturally, as Commander of the whole of the xxxxx our
fighting troops ^in France naturally most vitally interested in this question
and am ^also as senior Australian Officer in Europe, believe that I am most qualified
to voice the opinions of the major portion of the A.I.F.  ⁋ It is,
obviously, not opportune to enter, in the short limits of this letter ^such a letter as this 
into a minute detailed discussion of the ^merits of the whole position matter; but I should
like to be permitted, at the earliest possible moment, to convey state
to you my very definite and emphatic opinion that, upon
every ground, of expediency, sentiment, and in the bests interests
of the A.I.F., no such change ^such as is ^that proposed, should now
be considered; but that the present organization should be left
undisturbed.-
I may say that I am on the best of terms, personally, with
Mr Murdoch; and I admire his patriotism and respect his
motives, but, upon the question at issue, I fear that I entirely
disagree with him. ^Nor do I admit his right to be the spokesman of the A.I.F. - It is said that he has urged upon you
the view that his proposals have received wide, not to say unanimous, 
support from the A.I.F.- If this be so, I wish to
assure you say that such a view this is wholly misleading and
absolutely incorrect. - I will undertake to g furnish you
with most convincing proof to the contrary. - In point of fact

 

In point of fact the great majority of our senior the contrary view is almost universal,
among all senior officers qualified to express a reliable opinion.
or whose opinion ^really matters. -
Many of us are, on the other hand, however, quite in sympathy with
the view that Australia should be more effectively represented
in London, in the politi questions of a more political & economic
character, of a kind which could be achieved, if Australia were
to provide a member of the War Cabinet. - But this as a very
different thing from discussing the present proposal to totally to
divorce the higher ^Military Administration of the A.I.F. from the Army
in the field; - which would be the inevitable result of so vital
a change in our ^present organization. - One might also well ask why
we should disturb an arrangement which has worked so well, &
has kept the A.I.F. so efficient, so contented, & so entirely
free from intrigue, or cabal of any description.-
My main purpose, in this letter, is to urge you very strongly
to keep an entirely open mind on this position upon the matter, & to suggest ^respectfully that 
it would be best to refrain from any intervention in this
question until you have had an opportunity of visiting France
& fully ^hearing, discussing & considering the views of those of us, in the field, who
are really more vitally interested than any one else.
Yours very sincerely

 
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