Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 16, 3 September - 9 October 1917, Part 6

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16/9/12 G.S.Auvc 23 of Sep. 13.- Copp Nelwine Counterattacks. Advance to meet Counterattack, rather than retire Advance into shell holes during enemys preliminary bombardment. No excessive sensitiveners about Flanks; never throw back a flank, but send up troops to tom a flank. No "retire hever bring back barrage for a counterattack, - except to again advance it. If counterattacks gets through our barrage, it continuee, so as to box them in Re-counterattack, up to limits of J.O.S. barraga If Dn local reserves fail, take time & arrange astillery support for tresh attack by reseive troops.- Be prepared Fo eveny Flank Counterattacks, by his infantry & his juns My letter to Cop 11/9/17 Position of protective barrage depends on visibility. Tatrols, during consolidation, are pround sconts, & moppen up These patrols should be few, + small & should dig in expedients for barrnging a counterattack in depth Tefu Arny pape of Aug 24 Enemy tache:- (a) Defence in depth H) Immediate local attacks 67 Larze Scale attack. Onr tackes:- Greater plixibility, by troops in small columns Detail moppes - io smill columns - to definite areas. We must have two bodies (o) to ensure inthl success 161to meet counterattacts The "Wesk "troop must be close up from outset, & must follow up Ohr reseve must be deplized, to r-counterattack as soon as they see our lending troop being thrown bick. More frequent barage hilts. - Barrage to move more plowly. Every attack exercise should produce Counterattacks at every stage Attached is a scheme for a Buttation attack, on a 2 Co Front
Coop S.G. 585. of Sep.5. Agendar fr C.C. Conference 5/2/17 16/9/2 1500 depth sufficient for a division toe 1 day. R.E. charps required to Fill bones. Worm formation Mop up by "areas!- Division bound to bet. all Astellery plans X Action of following troops in support, to be structly defined. Difficulting File"formation; men hesitate to deploy.
SONPIDN A P7A p THIRD AUSTRALLAN DIVISION. Divisional Headquarters 16th. September, 1917. Headquarters, 2nd. A. 8 N. 2. Army Corps. Herewith in duplicate confidential report called for in your No-4016 A. of 13th. instant. Major-Ger Commanding Third Australian Division.
OFFICERS RECOMMENDED FOR COMMAND AND STAFF APPOINTMENTS. Anstralian DIVISION. Officer Recommended for. CONTLDENTIAL. Rank, Initials, Name. swooot borotmont. t a Cor Fittt H, Di A A 186. 8.3.0.2. Brevet Lientenant 8.6.6.3 of A80.. 40. 9/12 years. BORDER Colonel Third Corpo Yes. G.H. N. JACKSON, Australian Resiment. Service. 20.7/12 ". C.M.G., D.S.O. Division. Brigade P.S.C.Ves. Commend Higher Commander's Remarks. Services in Present War. GALLIPOLL and FRANCE. Four times mentioned. Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel dated June, 1916. C.M.G. dated June, 1917. Remarks of Reportinn Officer. A very able and helpful Staff Officer possessing tactical and technical knowledge of a high order, also great industry and enthusias which he has the power of inspiring in others. His judgement and tact are admirable, and are not affected by the strees of battle JohnMonach Major General Commidg 3rd Cust. Division. No. 16/9/17 JrN MNMM
PA CE TRANS PORT. Oreanization for 11th. Aust. Infantry Brigade Exercise 18/9/ 1917. 144 Pack animals, organized into 12 sections, each under an N.C.O. The 12 sections are divided into 3 groups, each group consisting of 4 sections, under an Officer. The following nominal loads will be carried in connection with 1lth. Brigade exercise:-- 2 Sections (24 animals) 2880 Grenades. 4 Sections (48 animals) 96000 S.A.A. 4 Sections (48 animals) 576 gallons Water. 2 Sections (24 animals) R.E. Stores or Rations. 12 Totel for Dwn (CAP(DD) A Toops, i above 17-9-1917. 576 amual D.H.8. & spave 74 650 Tots 1.C. 1 for each Higude under Ade Traupot Tis 1 for Dis. Troops & TE ppe Repulation pack in Div. 163. t0 Isaned to us on loan 300 113 Saddle attachments 100 553 He how have 60 saddle attachments
17/9/124 be t Confirence of Brigadies (in field 18/9/19/ 1. Reasons for Field Confierence. Time for offensive approaching No definite information until after Corps confirence this afternoon. Another conference afterwards Refer to Map 2. Our probable Role. Angas objective Order of Dursions We tallow 5th Advancing) & protective barrages. 10th & 11th Bodes in tront line, 9th in Reveue; & to relieve 2t My dispositions. Engineer, Pioneers & M.G. Cos under Division with detachments to Bydes. 11t on right 105 on left. Probable tontages 400 to 600 per Byds Probable depth!, 1000£ to $1500£ in 2 of 3 bounds - all on me day Possible right tank of 1th Bde- Preparatory Measures for Bryndier 1 Settle on Commands, & Bleams, - Keep Brs len than 750.- 2. Careful study of all documents, & crystallize news, foe a later conference.- 3. Instruction of B C & plation leaders - in conditions & possibilities. 4. Prepara Agenda liats, hr yourselves, & Bn my torme Interligatones C. Lettle equipment, (loads, food, tools. F. Pactical points & dispositions Objection will be Arcas Ic. Frontage & depth. troutage C One Bn frontage - Ceapfragging kn E Brigade (6 Two Br frontage - Capprogging Co (a) Two Co Frontage E Bittation (6s three Co Frontage Lang Divisional Peatoon formations- lines & Columns.- Brigade Battalion Dispositions for use of Reserves - in counterattact in support Sturdy photos. teay o folloning trops - as supporte I most know whit is priy on to till paps Mopper up told t Protgative barrages. Counterattack- counterattack at every stage consolidation - carying parties - outposts Ctet 5. Fraining & Freparations Battalion & Brigade (exercises- lace of burrage is infantry follow lift. Fractice connteratiacty & camalties. Explain exercises to thoops Teach platoons to think & get quickly – expecially in deating with strong points Move slowly ast quickly. Don't be over nervous about Hanks - or gaps. - send up troops Consolidate in depth of 2 tiues Action of Consolidating trops when bombardel. Be prepared to Flank Counterattacks toots in front - ten of small Generally – preater Repsibility – better liaison - more recourse limitation is our burrage
18/9/1 Cot Contre 2nd Army Attack an day fixcd Red, Buck & Greentime then wait firo 6 days then to next leap. Road is boundaly Araring M. Gu Banig Failure on right (loug say) wea due to Resenes, & dssaueling trop not being up in time. Allewative Harrage for 1st Aigc will be slowse it is wet Read F.S. Rep. I Put in demants for pack 176 saddes. Lead a Q office to St Drssion to be done y Nor. 15 & Clipping

16/9/17
Corps G.S. Circ. 23 of Sep. 13.-

Welcome Counterattacks.
Advance to meet Counterattack, rather than retire
Advance into shell holes during enemy's preliminary bombardment.
No excessive sensitiveness about flanks; never throw back a flank,
but send up troops to form a flank.
No "retire".
Never bring back barrage for a counterattack, - except to again advance it.
If counterattacks gets through our barrage, it continues, so as to box them in
Re-counterattack, up to limits of S.O.S. barrage.
If our local reserves fail, take time & arrange artillery support for
fresh attack by reserve troops.-
 

Be prepared for enemy flank Counterattacks, also both by his infantry this June


My letter to Corps 11/9/17 - Position of protective barrage depends on visibility.
Patrols, during consolidation, are ground scouts, & moppers up.
These patrols should be few, & small., & should dig in.
Expedients for barraging a counterattack in depth
 

Fifth Army paper of Aug. 24. :-
Enemy tactics:- (a) Defence in depth (b) Immediate local attacks (c) Large Scale attack.
Our tactics:- Greater flexibility, by troops in small columns
Detail moppers - in small columns - to definite areas.
We must have two bodies (a) to ensure initial success (b) to meet counterattacks.
The "fresh" troops must be close up from outset, & must follow up.
Our reserves must be deployed, to re-counterattack as soon as they see
our leading troops being thrown back.
More frequent barrage halts. - Barrage to move more slowly.
Every attack exercise should produce Counterattacks at every stage
(Attached is a scheme for a Battalion attack, on a 2 Co Front)
 

 

16/9/17
Corps S.G. 585 .of Sep. 5.   1500x depth sufficient for a division for 1 day.
R.E. charges required to Pill boxes.
"Worm" formation
Mop up by "areas". -
Division bound to vet. all Artillery plans    X
Action of following troops in "support", to be strictly defined.
Difficulties of "file" formation;  men hesitate to deploy.

 

Agenda for C.C. Conference 5/9/17
 

 

C O N F I D E N T I A L. 
THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION.
Divisional Headquarters,
16th. September, 1917.
 

Headquarters,
2nd. A. & N. Z. Army Corps.
 

Herewith in duplicate confidential report called
for in your No.4016 A. of 13th. instant.
 

Major-General.
Commanding Third Australian Division.
 

 

OFFICERS RECOMMENDED FOR COMMAND AND STAFF APPOINTMENTS.
3rd Australian DIVISION.
CONFIDENTIAL.   Officer Recommended for.
 

Rank, Initials, Name. Unit. Present Appointment. Whether recommended for advancement Appointment for which best fitted.

Brevet Lieutenant-            

Colonel

G. H. N. JACKSON,

C.M.G., D.S.O.

1st.

BORDER Regiment.

G.S.O.I. 

Third

Australian

Division.

Yes

B.C.G.S of 

Corps

or

Brigade

Command

REMARKS.

Age: Service in years ; Whether P.S.C. : Services in present war. including mentions and rewards ; Previous Staff or Regimental Staff Experience ; General Ability. Manner in which duties have been performed, Special Qualifications and Characteristics.

 

Age  40 9/12 years.

Service  20 7/12 ".

P.S.C.  Yes.
   
Services in Present War.   GALLIPOLI and FRANCE.  Four times mentioned.

Brevet Lieutenant-Colonel dated June, 1916.

C.M.G. dated June, 1917.

 

Remarks of Reporting Officer.

A very able and helpful Staff Officer

possessing tactical and technical knowledge of 

a high order, also great industry and enthusiasm

which he has the power of inspiring in others. -

His judgement and tact are admirable, and are 

not affected by the stress of battle 


John Monash
Major General
Commanding 3rd Aust. Division.
Date. 16/9/17

 

 

17/9/17

 

P A C K    T R A N S P O R T.
 

Organization for 11th. Aust. Infantry Brigade Exercise 18/9/ 1917.
 

144 Pack animals, organized into 12 sections, each under
an N.C.O.
 

The 12 sections are divided into 3 groups, each group
consisting of 4 sections, under an Officer.
 

The following nominal loads will be carried in connection
with 11th. Brigade exercise:--
 

2 Sections (24 animals)        2880 Grenades.
4 Sections (48 animals)        96000 S.A.A.
4 Sections (48 animals)        576 gallons Water.
2 Sections (24 animals)         R.E. Stores or                                                                    Rations.
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12

(CAP/DD)          Total for Division
17-9-1917.          4 Toops, as above =  576  animals
D.H.Q.                + spares                        74
                                                                 ____
                                                       Total 650

i.e. 1    for each Brigade under Bde Transport                   Officer & Bn Tr officer.

      1     for Div. Troops.
                   _____________________________
                                                                                  463

[[Repletion?]] packs in Div.       =  163.                  ‾‾
Issued to us on loan                   = 300.                113
Saddle attachments                    = 100.
                                                            ____
                                                             563
We now have 60 saddle attachments.
 

 

17/9/17
 

Take Maps

[Houl??] to be

present.)
 


Conference of Brigadiers (in field 18/9/17)
 

1. Reasons for Field Conference. -
Time for offensive approaching
No definite information, - until after Corps Conference this afternoon.
Another Conference afterwards
 

2. Our probable Role. - Refer to Map.-
Anzac objective
Order of Divisions
We follow 5th
Advancing & protective barrages.
 

2A My dispositions. - 10th & 11th Bgdes in front line, 9th in Reserve. & to relieve
Engineer, Pioneers & M.G. Cos under Division with detachments to Bgdes.
11th on right, 10th on left.
Probable frontages 400× to 600× per Bgde.
Probable depth., 1000× to 1500× in 2 or 3 bounds - all on one day.
Possible right flank of 11th Bde.-
 

3. Preparatory Measures .- for Brigadiers
1.  Settle on Commands, & B teams; - Keep Bns less than 750.-
2. Careful study of all documents, & crystallize news, for a
later conference.-
3. Instruction of Bns, Co & platoon leaders - in conditions
& possibilities. -
4. Prepare Agenda lists, for yourselves, & Bns.
5.  my former Interrogations. -
6. Settle equipment, loads, food, tools.
 

4. Tactical points & dispositions -
Objectives will be Areas i.e. frontage x depth.
Frontage 
(a) One Bn frontage - Leapfrogging Bns. } Brigade
(b) Two Bns frontage - Leapfrogging Cos}
 

(a) Two Co frontage      } Battalion 

(b) Three Co frontage.  }
 

Platoon formations. - lines & Columns.-

Dispositions for use of Reserves - in counterattack in support to fill gaps

Use of following troops - as supports -must know what is going on

Counterattack - Protective barrages.

Counterattack at every stage.

Consolidation - carrying parties - outposts

Liaison - Divisions

Brigade

Battalion

Study of photos

Moppers up told off to areas.

 

5. Training & Preparations
Battalion & Brigade exercises -
Pace of barrage - infantry follow lifts.
Practice counterattacks, & casualties.
Explain exercises to troops -
Teach platoons to think & act quickly – especially in dealing with strong points. -
Move slowly - act quickly.
Don't be over nervous about flanks - or gaps. - send up troops
Consolidate in depth - 2 lines
Action of Consolidating troops when bombarded.
Be prepared for flank Counterattacks.
Posts in front - few & small
Generally – greater flexibility – better liaison - more resource
limitation is our barrage.
 

 

18/9/17
 

Corps Conference
 

2nd Army Attack on day fixed
Red, Buck & Green lines
then wait for 6 days
then to next leap.
Road is boundary.                                                    
(*Artillery
M. Gun Barrage*)
Failures on right ([Gugh says?]] were due to Reserves, & assaulting
troops not being up in time.
Alternative Barrage for 1st Anzac will be slower if
it is wet - 
 

Read F.S. Regs. I
 

Put in demands for pack                576 -
  saddles. -                                            176
[[Lend/Send?]] a Q officer to 1st Division

Clipping to be done by Nov. 15  x
 

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