Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 13, 16 August - 30 September 1916, Part 9

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Sir John Monash (General, b.1865 - d.1931)
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THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION. Divisional Headquarters. d. 147/30. LARXHILL, 1êth. September, 1916. ---------- L CIRCULAR ITOSANDUM. MERKINS OF VUHICLES. (a). Numbers of formations, etc., must on no account be em¬ ployed in the marking of any vehicle. (b). Orders as to the marking of vehicles, with colored symbols of various shapes, to indicate the Arm of the Ser¬ vice to which they belong, will be issued in due course. (c). Apart from these symbols, it is probable that all Australian vehicles will require to be marked with a further symbol. (d). In addition to the symbols referred to in sub-paras (b) and (c) above, private markings are permitted, in order to distinguish and identify the vehicles of one Unit or Formation from another. The private markings of the vehicles of the Third Division will consist of.- (i). A letter of the alphabet to indicate the Unit. (ii). A serial number to indicate the particular vehicle. The letters and numbers are allotted as follows:- Letter. Nunber Div. Hgrs. and Div. Signal Coy. I upware Infantry.- Sth. Brigade. 1 to 200 10th. 201 to 400 11th. 401 to 600 - --- Pioneers. 1 upwards -- Artillery & D. A. C. do. Engingers (Hors. & 3 Coys). a do. --- Div. Train. --- do. ---- Field Ambulances. do. Every vehicle, whether waggon, cart, gun, limber, bicyole, or handcart is to receive a serial number, plainly but inconspicuously painted thereon, in letters and figures not exceeding 3" in height, in white paint. Both parts of a limbered vehicle to receive the same number. All vehicles of each Unit (as grouped above) to have the numbering carried out in one and the same style. Each Unit will keep a Register of all its vehicles to correspond with the above numbering. Lieut-Colonel.- A.A. 8 G.M.G.
C.R.S.C. No. 145087 (G). --------------------- His Majesty has announced his intention of inspecting the Anzac Troops quartered on Salisbury Plain, on Wednesday next the 27th instant. The General Officer Commanding 3rd Australian Division will submit a programme for the inspection in consultation with General Officer Commanding, Australian Imperial Force Training Centre and Officer Commanding, New Zealand Training Centre. On previous similar occasions all the troops were drawn up in line on "Bulford Field" and they marched past after the Inspection by His Majesty. After passing the Saluting point Commanding Officers fell out and were presented to the King by their General Officer's Commanding after the mareh past was completed. The Troops in the meantime lined the route to Bulford Station and cheered His Majesty on his return. He arrivee at Bulford Station at 11.30 and left at 1.30. Of course these times are approximate and are governed by the time the ceremony takes. An early opportunity should be taken of timing it. NO SWORDS. ORDINARY. DRESS. Vaal 3. 9. I148. z116. Brigadier General, Salisbury. 21st September, 1916. General Staff, Southern Command.
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THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION, ConplDnudlal LARK HILL CAMP SALISBURY PLAIN, 22/9/16. Colonel Cannan 11th Aust. Inf. Bde. After perusing attached papers, please return them to me. General GRIMWADE considers that Gaptain PHILLIPS, in spite of his excellent services as a Naval Artilleryman, is too old for a responsible command in the Divisional Artillery. - This point of view rather suggests that he may also be too old for a Company Command in the Infantry. At any rate, the fact that he is applying for a transfer to the Artillery may indicate that he is not happy in his present position. I am sending you this note and the papers, solely to draw your attention to the officer concerned. If you know anything about him which you think I ought to know, please let me know. Tvtrtnsonnst.
FIRST AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND ARMY CORPS Headquarters, 22nd. September, 1916. (Headquarters, A.f.F. Depets in England, T I D W O R T X. I am to sttach. (a) Statement showing the number ef reinferoements available in ENGLAND and at ETAPLES for the Australian Divisions: (b) State shewing briefly hew we stand with regard te reinfercements ether than Infantry: 2.- It vill be seen that in the Artillery there ars gos 236 Engineers Pioneors 178 Machine Gun Corps 46 6s A. A. S. C. L88 over and abeve requirements, who are available for transfer to Infantry. 3.- In addition, probably another 100 volunteers for transfer to the Infantry could be obtained from the A.A.M.C. and a cemmunication is being addressed to the D.M.s., A.I.F., on the subjeet, from whem, ne deubt, you will shertly hear. In allecating the transferees under "2" te Units, it should 4.- be borne in mind that, as far as practicable, they should be sent t. a Unit of the Distriet to which they belong, i.e., the territerial erganisation is to be adhered to:end, in addition, regard must be had to the fact that the Infantry reinferoements available in some of the Divisions already greatly exceed the numbers required to complete, as the follewing Table will show - Total strength Number Required of Infantry to complete Reinforcements Infantry of Division to in England and at Staples Establishment Other Ranks Other Ranks 3. 180 lst. Aust. Division 6.542 2nd. Aust. Division 7.083 3,802 4.673 4.713 Feurth Aust. Division Fifth Aust. Division 4,502 4.171 22.309 f 16,157 - NOTE - To this number may be added 1,848 en account of the men referred to in "2", about to be transferred, It will therefore be necessary to transfer some of the reinforcements of the First and Secend Divisions to the Fourth and Fifth Divisiens - still adhering to the territerial basis - so as to equalise matters - not only in regard to the total number of reinforcements, but, as far as practicable, so that each Brigade will have an equal number of trained reinforcements available at the same dates. Lieut-Colonel, A.A.G., A.I.F.
B. 213 of 14/9/1916. In England A R M off! o.R. 1393 Artillery and D.A.C. 5el ENCINEERS Signal: 1124 Pioneers M.C.Companies 370 A.A.M.C. osa A.A.S.C. unarkt rjjyonGEEFIS. 15/2/1916. England 1é/s/1916. Etaples it t Ih Weai thato Etaples Rfete. Af e 2ADiv ILD1y. Present ryd AKopd. o off P.R./offO.R167 off O.R. off O.R. Off O.R off O.R. off O.R. Off O.R. 138 al 158 too 191 an 238 1278 154 ad 544 174 259 15 z D.A. Diel. Aru. met såom
REINFORCEMENTSTATEMENT. 1e/9/1s16. 50 Unit Angland Etaples Total Short og Strength Total rtd. 4 Egpd. Rfets Bdes Bäes Fetal B4. ist. Aus.Divn. Off. O.R. Off.O.R. Off.O.R. off.O.R. offO.R. Off.O.R. 1st. Bn. 161 394 2nd. Bn. 123 40 277 1204 iee a 1427 3rd. En. 123 311 4th. Bn. 137 29 1a 445 5th. Bn. 125 290 éth. Bn. 236 aa 167 23 [2133 27el 971 7th. Bn. 126 267 sth. Bn. 141 24? eth. Bn. 142 1s 223 1Oth. Bn. 234 ale 232 25 1426 2o3 782 11th. Bn. 72 153 12th. Bn. 157 14 ss 4765 6542 55 3180 2nd. Infantry Brigade are short ef 1 Bde. Majer and 1 Chaplain in additien.
AU" Units. 2nd. Aust. Divn. 17th. Bn. 18th. Bn. 19th. Bn. sOth. Bn. 21st. Bn. 2ånd. Bn. 23rd. Bn. 24th. Bn. 25th. Bn. 26th. Bn. 27th. Bn. 28th. Bn. ENGLAND eff. O.R. 1501 18 1682 16 ls 4586 REINFORCEMENT STATEMSNT. Tetal ETAPLES Riots. Tetal Fa.d off O.R. UIRORI O 339 sln 26 2665 27? 5o 231 181 a el 2360 1s 177 161 147 12 aoos 156 191 7083 Short of Strength. Off. O.R. Off.o.R. 23s ie 1226 17 e233 339 l os 1556 12 345 372 10233 e 25 1020 192 3802 54
England UNIT off o.R. th. Aust.Div. 13th. Bn. 14th. Bn. 1295 15th. Bn. léth. Bn. e5th. Bn. 46th. Battalion 970 47th. Bn. .eth. Bn. 4sth. Bn. sOth. En. 1236 11 51st. Bn. 52nd. Bn. 23 3501 RSINFRCEMENT STATEMET Tetal Etaples Rfots Tetal erd.de. Rop4 UII.U.R. UIr. O.R. Off. O.R. 83 1 1 10 1640 63 .o 156 137 11 1512 -111 138 6e 102 13 1561 67 90 34 [4713 Short of Strength Off. off.o.R. O.R. 397 265 1402 402 338 41315 308 1576 2s 412 Sal 15 362 362 4 1695 14 476 17 495 4673 94

THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION.
Divisional Headquarters.
LARKHILL, 18th. September, 1916.
Q. 147/30
CIRCULAR MEMORANDUM.
MARKING OF VEHICLES..
(a). Numbers of formations, etc., must on no account be 
employed in the marking of any vehicle.

(b). Orders as to the marking of vehicles, with colored
symbols of various shapes, to indicate the Arm of the 
Service to which they belong, will be issued in due course.

(c). Apart from these symbols, it is probable that all
Australian vehicles will require to be marked with a further
symbol.

(d). In addition to the symbols referred to in sub-paras
(b) and (c) above, private markings are permitted, in order
to distinguish and identify the vehicles of one Unit or
Formation from another.

The private markings of the vehicles of the Third
Division will consist of.-
(i). A letter of the alphabet to indicate the Unit.
(ii). A serial number to indicate the particular vehicle.
The letters and numbers are allotted as follows:-

                                                           Letter.            Number.

Div.Hqrs. and Div. SIgnal Coy.          A                  1 upwards

Infantry -  9th Brigade                       B                  1 to 200

Infantry - 10th      "                               B                  201 to 400

Infantry - 11th         "                             B                  401 to 600

Pioneers.     ----            -----                 C                   1 upwards
Artillery & D. A. C.        -----                 D                       do.

Engineers (Hqrs. & 3 Coys.).              E                        do.

Div. Train.     ----            -----                 F                        do.

Field Ambulances.      -----                 G                       do.

 

Every vehicle, whether waggon, cart, gun, limber,
bicycle, or handcart is to receive a serial number, plainly
but inconspicuously painted thereon, in letters and figures
not exceeding 3" in height, in white paint. Both parts of
a limbered vehicle to receive the same number.

All vehicles of each Unit (as grouped above) to have
the numbering carried out in one and the same style.

Each Unit will keep a Register of all its vehicles to
correspond with the above numbering.
H Farmer
Lieut-Colonel.-
A.A. & G.M.G.
 

 

C.R.S.C. No. 145087 (G).

His Majesty has announced his intention of inspecting
the Anzac Troops quartered on Salisbury Plain, on Wednesday
next the 27th instant.

The General Officer Commanding 3rd Australian Division
will submit a programme for the inspection in consultation
with General Officer Commanding, Australian Imperial Force
Training Centre and Officer Commanding, New Zealand Training
Centre.

On previous similar occasions all the troops were drawn
up in line on "Bulford Field" and they marched past after
the Inspection by His Majesty.

After passing the Saluting point Commanding Officers
fell out and were presented to the King by their General
Officer's Commanding after the march past was completed.

The Troops in the meantime lined the route to Bulford
Station and cheered His Majesty on his return.
He arrived at Bulford Station at 11.30 and left at
1.30.

Of course these times are approximate and are
governed by the time the ceremony takes.

An early opportunity should be taken of timing it.

DRESS.    ORDINARY.   NO SWORDS.
(Sd) J. G. KING-KING
Brigadier General,
General Staff, Southern Command.
Salisbury.
21st September, 1916. 
 

 

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Confidential
22/9/16

Dear General Monash
Many thanks for passing on 

to me. I have seen Capt Phillips on parade

& remember being struck by his commanding

military appearance. I have never spoken

to him but learn from C/C 43rd Bn. that 

he fails in educational qualifications

& throws some of his "h"s about. This

probably decided General Grimwade & as it

is rather a delicate matter to mention of 

an officer he probably used age as a deterrent.

C/C 43rd considers he is quite happy in his

position & cannot understand his applying

for a transfer especially as it is not through

the proper channel, possibly his keenness

or gunnery & knowledge of vacancies in

Artillery prompted the application. He is

2nd in Command of a Coy. & seems to manage his marching etc. ok.

James H Cannan

 

 

CONFIDENTIAL

THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION,
LARK HILL CAMP
SALISBURY PLAIN, 22/9/16.
Colonel Cannan
11th Aust. Inf. Bde.


After perusing attached papers, please return them to
me. General GRIMWADE considers that Captain PHILLIPS, in spite
of his excellent services as a Naval Artilleryman, is too
old for a responsible command in the Divisional Artillery. -
This point of view rather suggests that he may also be too
old for a Company Command in the Infantry. At any rate, the
fact that he is applying for a transfer to the Artillery may
indicate that he is not happy in his present position. I am
sending you this note and the papers, solely to draw your
attention to the officer concerned. If you know anything about
him which you think I ought to know, please let me know.
 John Monash
 

 

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FIRST AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND ARMY CORPS
Headquarters,
22nd. September, 1916.
Headquarters,
A.I.F. Depots in England,
T I D W O R T H.
I am to attach -
(a) Statement showing the number of reinforcements
available in ENGLAND and at ETAPLES for the
Australian Divisions:
(b) State showing briefly how we stand with regard
to reinforcements other than Infantry:
2.- It will be seen that -
in the Artillery there are              268

   "     Engineers "                            238

   "      Pioneers      "                         178

   "      Machine Gun Corps           469

   "      A. A. S. C.                                695

                                                         1,848

over and above requirements, who are available for transfer to
Infantry.
3.- In addition, probably another 100 volunteers for transfer
to the Infantry could be obtained from the A.A.M.C. and a
communication is being addressed to the D.M.S., A.I.F., on the
subject, from whom, no doubt, you will shortly hear.
 

4. In allocating the transferees under "2" to Units, it should
be borne in mind that, as far as practicable, they should be sent
to a Unit of the District to which they belong, i.e., the
territorial organisation is to be adhered to: and, in addition,
regard must be had to the fact that the Infantry reinforcements
available in some of the Divisions already greatly exceed the
numbers required to complete, as the following Table will show -
 

  Total Strength 
of Infantry 
Reinforcements 
in England 
and at Etaples		 Number Required 
to complete 
Infantry of 
Division to 
Establishment
  Other Ranks Other Ranks
1st Aust. Division 6,542 3,180
2nd Aust. Division    7,083 3,802
Fourth Aust. Division 4,713 4,673
Fifth Aust. Division  4,171 4,502
  22,509x 16,157

x NOTE - To this number may be added 1,848 on account of
the men referred to in "2", about to be
transferred.
It will therefore be necessary to transfer some of the
reinforcements of the First and Second Divisions to the Fourth and
Fifth Divisions - still adhering to the territorial basis - so as
to equalise matters - not only in regard to the total number of
reinforcements, but, as far as practicable, so that each Brigade
will have an equal number of trained reinforcements available at
the same dates.
Lieut-Colonel,
A.A.G., A.I.F.
 
 

 

GENERAL REINFORCEMENTS

b.213 of 16/9/1916

England 15/9/1916

Etaples 16/9/16

ARM In England Etaples   Total
Rfcts.
      Present Ftd. & Eqpd.    
Off.  O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R.
Artillery and
D.A.C.		 13 1393 2 783 1 574 15 2176
ENGINEERS 19 541 3 158 2 55 22 699
          "              Signals . . . 92 . 81 . 92
Pioneers 13 1124 1 154 1 52 14 1278
M.G. Companies     1 378 . 210 . 184 1 588
A.A.M.C. 31 370 . 174 . 93 31 544
A.A.S.C. 15 658 . 259 . 185 15 917
ARM Short of Strength TOTAL
  1 A. Div. 2 A. Div. 3 A Div 4 A Div 5 A Div  
  Off O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R. Off O.R.
Artillery and
D.A.C.		 1 63 1 37 . . . 38x 5 . 7 138
ENGINEERS 2 8 2 51 . . . 22 . . 4 81
          "        Signals . . . . . . . 3 . 2 . 5
Pioneers 1 238 . 171 . . 2 191 1 . 4 600
M.G. Companies 3 3 2 3 . . 5 18 . . 10 24
A.A.M.C. 2 15 . 15 . . . 19 1 7 3 56
A.A.S.C. . . . . . . 2 12 . . 2 12
X D.A.C.

Divl. Arty. not shown

 

REINFORCEMENT/STATEMENT.     
16/9/16
66

Unit England Etaples
Total Ftd. & Eqpd.		 Total
Rfcts		 Short of Strength
  by Bdes.         by Bdes.     Total Bde
1st. Aus. Divn. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off.  O.R. Off. O.R.
1st. Bn.     1 161         7 394    
2nd. Bn. 7 1204 1 123   40 13 1748 1 277 29 1427
3rd. Bn. 4 123 1 1 9 311
4th. Bn.       137   29     12 445    
5th. Bn.       125         3 290    
6th. Bn. 23 2133   236   94 26 2761   167 7 971
7th. Bn. 1 126       267
8th. Bn.     2 141   1     4 247    
9th. Bn.     2 142   15     6 223    
10th. Bn. 25 1428 3 234   116 32 2033 5 232 19 782
11th. Bn. 2 72     3 153
12th. Bn.       157         5 174    
  55 4765         71 6542     55 3180

2nd. Infantry Brigade are short of 1 Bde. Major and 1 Chaplain in addition.
 

 

 

REINFORCEMENT STATEMENT

Unit England Etaple Total
Rfcts		 Short of Strength.
    Total Ftd. & Eqpd.    
  Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off.  O.R. Off. O.R.
2nd. Aus. Divn.                        
17th. Bn.     2 339 2         238    
18th. Bn. 18 1501 2 315 1   26 2665 11 416 17 1226
19th. Bn. 3 279 3   6 233
20th. Bn.     1 231 1 50       339    
21st. Bn.       181           431    
22nd. Bn. 16 1682 2 161 1 49 21 2360 9 408 12 1556
23th. Bn.   159     3 345
24th. Bn.     3 177 1 94       372    
25th. Bn.   161   8 10 233
26th. Bn. 9 1403   147     13 2058 6 198 25 1020
27th. Bn. 2 156 1     192
28th. Bn.     2 191 2 1     9 397    
  43 4586         50 7083     54 3802

 

 

REINFORCEMENT STATEMENT

 

Unit England Etaple Total
Rfcts		 Short of Strength.
    Total Ftd. & Eqpd.    
  Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off. O.R. Off.  O.R. Off. O.R.
4th. Aus. Divn.                        
13th. Bn.     1 83         4 397    
14th. Bn. 5 1295 3 109 1   10 21640 3 265 17 1402
15th. Bn.   63     1 402
16th. Bn.     1 90         9 338    
45th. Bn.     1 156         4 315    
46th. Battalion. 7 1970 1 137     11 1512 4 308 26 1576
47th. Bn. 1 111     5 412
48th. Bn.     1 138 1       15 541    
49th. Bn.   66     13 362
50th. Bn. 11 1236   102     13 1561 6 362 49 1695
51st. Bn. 2 67     14 476
52nd. Bn.       90         17 495    
  23 3501         34 4713     94 4673
 
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