Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 13, 16 August - 30 September 1916, Part 6

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5 5/7a SEOAI C.R. A.L.F. 6248 (4) 1. To Headquarters 3rd Australian Division. LARKHLLL. In reply to your 32/79 of the 6th inst., the following schedule shows the unit to which the personnel mentioned therein is allotted and the Training Battalion and the location to which the personnel is As suggested by you, 9 a.m. Saturday, 9th posted. September will be a convenient time for the above Arrangements will be made quotas to be handed over. for a Conducting Officer to be in attendance at each Brigade Headquarters. In reference to Br the date on which reinforce- ments for the 3rd Divisicn be provided, this will be notified later. Copepe TGCEO-SATTTTL WTIY (pSS W Brigadler-General. Commanding A.I.F.Depots in the United Kingdom. Bhurtpore Barracks, Tidworth. 7.9.16.

5 5/7Q
SECRET
n.      C.R. A.I.F. 6248 (A)
To Headquarters
3rd Australian Division.
LARKHILL.
In reply to your S2/7Q of the 6th inst.,
the following schedule shews the unit to which the
personnel mentioned therein is allotted and the Training
Battalion and the location to which the personnel is
posted. As suggested by you, 9 a.m. Saturday, 9th
September will be a convenient time for the above
quotas to be handed over. Arrangements will be made
for a Conducting Officer to be in attendance at each
Brigade Headquarters.
In reference to "B" the date on which 
reinforcements for the 3rd Division be provided, this will be
notified later.
[*(Sgn.) Alf. M. Phillips, - Capt.
D.A.A.G.*]
for Brigadler-General.
Commanding A.I.F. Depots in the United Kingdom.
Bhurtpore Barracks,
Tidworth.
7.9.16.

 

5 5/7Q

STATE. NUMBERS. NEW UNIT
ALLOTTED TO.
TRAINING
BN.
LOCATION.
N.S.W. 58. 1st Bn         )    
  58 2nd Bn       ) 1st Trg Bn Perham Down.
  58 3rd Bn        )    
  58 4th Bn        )    
         
  58 17th Bn       )    
  58 18th Bn       ) 5th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  58 19th Bn       )    
  58 20th Bn      )    
         
  59 53rd Bn      )    
  59 54th Bn      ) 14th Trg Bn Lark Hill.
  59 55th Bn      )    
  58 56th Bn      )    
TOTAL 699      
VICT. 120 5th Bn        )    
  120 6th Bn        ) 2nd Trg Bn Perham Down.
  120 7th Bn        )    
  120 8th Bn        )    
TOTAL 480      
TAS'IA 85 12th Bn       3rd Trg Bn Perham Down.
  85 15th Bn     4th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  84 26th Bn     7th Trg Bn Rollestone.
TOTAL. 254      
Q'NSD 23 9th Bn 3rd Trg Bn Perham Down.
  22 21st Bn 8th Trg Bn Lark Hill.
  45 47th Bn 12th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  90 49th Bn 13th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  90 52nd Bn 13th Trg Bn Rollestone.
TOTAL. 270      
S.AUST. 27 10th Bn 3rd Trg Bn Perham Down.
  27 16th Bn 4th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  27 27th Bn 7th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  27 32nd Bn 8th Trg Bn Lark Hill.
  27 52nd Bn 13th Trg Bn Rollestone.
TOTAL. 135      
W.AUST. 54 11th Bn 3rd Trg Bn Perham Down.
  26 28th Bn 7th Trg Bn Rollestone.
  27 32nd Bn 8th Trg Bn Lark Hill.
  27 51st Bn 13th Trg Bn Rollestone.
TOTAL.  134      

 

SOUTHERN COMMAND
7 SEPT.1916

CENTRAL REGISTRY
121/Drafts etc/2167   6th September 1916
Sir.
With reference to your letter No 138995 (G) dated
1st September, 1916, I am directed to forward for your
information the attached copies of telegrams despatched to,
and received from, the Government of the Commonwealth of
Australia.
The arrangements made for the despatch of drafts from
the 3rd Australian Division are noted.
It is not proposed to draw further on that formation
for drafts than circumstances demand, but from the numbers
at present coming forward, it seems probable that it will be
necessary to draw to some extent on the 5,460 reported by
you as becoming available between the 1st and 15th October.
Although it may not be necessary to take the full number.
A further communication will however be made to you
on this subject at a later date.
1 am,
Sir.
Your Obedient Servant,
(Sgd) E.M. Woodward. M.G.
Director of Organization
The General Officer
Commanding-in-Chief
Southern Command
Salisbury

 

C.R.S.C.No. 138995 (6)
The General Officer Commanding
3rd Australian Division.

Forwarded for your information.
Salisbury    23 King King
Brigadier General,
7/9/16
General Staff, Southern Command.

 

(COPY)
WAR OFFICE LONDON            W.22420
COMMANDETH SALISBURY   11/9/26
A1 For Action                               7.35 p.m.
"Q" "O" "G" for Infm                    8.5 p.m.
TIMOLEON.
Timoleon 1183 A.G. 2A eleventh to Commandeth Salisbury
begins aaa
Your letter C.R.S.C. 138955 (138995) first aaa
Numbers reported therein as available by September 2lst
should be held in readiness to embark for France on receipt
of instructions from Searail aaa
Telegraph Timoleon urgent the battalions in France they
should reinforce giving numbers for each battalion having
regard to demands in my 966 A.G.2A 6th aaa
Acknowledge aaa

 

C.R., S.C., 138995 (A.1).
General Officer Commanding,
3rd Australian Division.


The attached telegram "Timoleon" 1183 A.G.2.A. of
11th instant, marked "A", is forwarded for necessary action.
Please reply by bearer giving the numbers of the
Battalions in France which should be reinforced by the 1398
men referred to in your Q.79/1 dated 1st September 1916,
as being ready for the 2ist September, from the 33rd, 34th,
37th, 39th, 42nd and 44th Battalions of your Division and the
numbers of men you propose to send to each.
A copy of "Timoleon s" telegram to General Officer
Commanding, Australian Training Centre, No.966 A.G.2.a. of 6th
instant, marked "B" is also forwarded for reference.
This telegram is apparently quoted as a guide to the
proportional requirements of each Battalion.
A copy of the telegraphic answer of "Salaustra" to
"Timeleon", marked"C", is also appended so that you can see
what response has already been made to demands. These
numbers have since been ordered to be held in readiness.
[[?[[
for ColoneL, A.A.G.
Southern Conmand.

SALISBURY
12-9-16.

 

THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
Divisional Headquarters.
12th September 1916.

HEADQUARTERS

No. Q.79/1
THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
Headquarters.
Southern Command.
It is feared that attached matter is
referred to me in error.
The 1398 Infantry drafts referred to
in my Q 79/1 of 1st instant as ready for service abroad by
2lst September have since that date, in pursuance of your
orders of 2nd September 1916, 3/3/7Q, been with others
transferred by me to the A.I.F. Training Centre, and the
fact of the completion of such transfer has already been
reported to you in my telegram of 9th instant (my number
Q/138).
These troops have therefore passed
out of my control, and under the control of the G.O.C.,
A.I.F.. Depots at Tidworth, and have, I believe, been
distributed by him, to his several training Battalions, in
accordance with their territorial origin.
With reference to copy of telegram,
marked C from SALAUSTRA to COMMANDETH, I desire to draw
attention to the later report by this authority, that he will
have ready for service, by 30th September, 7400 men (Infantry
only) - see his C.R., A.I.F. 6248 (a1 of 31st August 1916,
on your files.- This appears to be exclusive of the men
recently transferred by me to him.
J.M.
Major General.
Commanding 3rd Australlan Division.
By Despatch Rider
1.20 PM

 

12/9/16

    No Regt
From Telegram
W 21698
6/9/16
No Available
From Telegram
A.244
(Salaustra
to Commandeth)
Bt Forward 9497 Avail
16 Sept
1st Battalion 470 93 50th Bn 310 -
2nd       " 245 118 29 125 22
3rd       " 310 118 30 150 39
4th       " 445 103 31st 363 24
5th       " 295 176 32 522 5
6th       " 52 176 53 494 33
7th       " 360 173 54 376 26
8th       " 262 170 55 206 22
9th       " 262 76 56 89 18
10th       " - 42      
11th       " 205 54 57 80 16
12th   270 120 58 310 20
17th   - 70      
18th   230 60 59 614 9
19th   53 28 60 656 10
20   225 142      
21   100 130 Totals 138702 2671
22   370 95      
23   300 75 1st Pioneer 250 107
24   190 100 2nd    220 28
25   152 - 4 240 -
26   243 55 5 100 -
27   138 4 132 60  
28th   347 49 42 10  
[[?]]   484        
14th   326 -      
51st   320        
46 M 250 294 55      
45 2 P 220 316 65      
13 4 240 540 -      
5 100
52   200 50      
47   395 6      
48   505 24      
16   522 -      
49th   70 -      
    9497        

 

 

HEADQUARTERS

G42/17
CONFIDENTIAL
THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
Divisional Headquarters
LARKHILL, 12th September, 1916.
Headquarters
Southern Command,
SALISBURY.
Kith reference to the recent visit of inspection of
Major-General Sir Francis Howard to this Division. I should be
glad to be supplied with a copy of his report on his inspection,
if this course is permissable.
JM
Major-General
Commanding 3rd Australian Division.

 

HEADQUARTERS
15 SEP. 1916

No. G42/51
THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION
to

The Field Marshal Commanding-in-Chief
The Home Forces.

Herewith my report on the 3rd Australian Division,
quartered at Larkhill, and its Pioneer Battalion.
(Sd.) Francis Howard,
Major General,
Inspector of Infantry.
27th August, 1916.
C.R.S.C. 48557/40. (G).
General Officer Commanding,
3rd Australian Division.
-------
Forwarded for your information.
M King King
Brigadier-General,
General Staff, Southern Command.
SALISBURY

14th September, 1916.

 
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