Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 12, 2 May - 31 May 1916, Part 12

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PARADE STATES.7. - 2 - (0) Tho Inspecting Officor will then go to the right of tho line and will pass don the line to the loft. Mountol troops and unarmed dismountod troops will come to attontion, dismounted troops will como to Attontion and Clors Arms by order of Unit Commanders, whon tho Inspooting (ffioer is passing tho noxt Unit but ong on tho right. (f) Staff Officors will romein in front of their Conmands, and will not join tho Inspocting Offioer. (g) Whon the Staff of tho Inspooting Officor has passed the noxt Unit on tho loft, Units will be noved off to tho right, and whoolod into position on the Saluting Baso, roady to "March Past". The Divisional Cavalry should advanco in "Harching Past" formation until about two-hundrod yards from the saluting point and thon halt. Othor Units as thoy assumo their "Marching Past" formation should bo movod up and haltod close in roar of the procoding Unit. One Offioor of the Divisional Staff will be on duty at tho "Whooling Point" and another at the"starting Line" of the Harch Past. (h) Tho"Harch Past" will bo in following formations. Divisional Cavalry in Lino Divisional Cyclists in close Column of Platoons Artillory - Mounted - Quarter Column of Battorios. Dismounted -In Lino at 30 paoes distance. Enginoers Column of Companios at 30 pacos distanco. Signal Company in Line Infantry & Column of Companios at 30 pacos Pioneor Bns/distanoo. L.G.Companios. in Lino. Field Ambulances in Lino. (i) Tho saluting point will be markod by a flag with a smallor rod flag ten paces to eithor flank of it. Commanders of Companios and corrosponding Units will givo "Eyos Right" on roaching tho first red flag, and "Eyos Front" at tho second rod flag. (j) After passing tho saluting point troops will continuo to merch in the same formation for sufficiont distanco as to provont any possibility of chocking troops in roar. All troops will pass tho North sido of the 4th. Infantry Brigaco Camp, and thon return to their own Camping Crounds by the most conveniont routo. Parade States will bo consolidatod and ronderod to Divisional Hoadquartors by 1100, on Monday 29th. Sere Lieut-Colonel. G.S. 4th. Australian Division.
8. 2 7 4 1 i -- Div. Chvalry. Div. Cyclist. Coy. F.A.Rde. (composite) F.A.Rde. (oomposite) F.A.Rde. (composite) T.A.Bdo. (dismounted) D.A.C. (dismountei) No 4 Fieli Company. No 13 Fieli Company. Div. Sig. Compuny. 13th Bittilion. 14th Battalion. 16th Battalion. 4th Bde. H.G.Company. 45th Battalion. 46th Battalion. 47th Battalion. 48th Pattalion. 12th Bde. N.G.Company. Pioneer Battalion. No 4 Field Ambulunce. No 12 Field Ambulance.
o (A E -H N p ED.) Wons or GENIRA SALUTT. ---.4.--- Dy Dirisional Cormandor Tho Division will Slope Arms (Caution) 1 'C' and Lance raisod porpendioularly Brigadiers :-"The Erigado will 'SLOPE ARHS'". (Caution Bn. Commanders:- "Tho Bn. will 'SLOPE ARMS (Caution 1 'G' and Lanco loworon/"Dn. 'SLOPE ARMS Bn. Commandors :- [Exocutivo) By Divisional Commander Genoral Salute. (Caution) 1 'G' and Lanoe raised perpondicularly and held up. Brigadiers :- "General Saluto" (Caution) En.Commanders:- "General Saluto" (Caution) i 'G' and Lanco lowerod Bn. Commanders :-"En!PRESENT ARMS'" (Exocutive) By Divisional Commander The Division will "SLOPE ARMS","ORDER ARMS", 'AND STAND AT EASE" (9aution) 1 'G' and Lance raised perpondicularly. Brigadiers:-"The Brigade will 'SLOPE ARMS 'ORDER ARMS, 'AND STAND AT EASE' (Caution) Bn. Commanders:- "The Battalion will 'SLOPE ARNST, TORDLR ARMS','AND STAND AT EASE (Caution) 1 'C' and Lanco lowered. Bn Commanders :- "Bn. 'SLOPE ARHS' (Exocutivo) ORDER ARHS 'STAND AT EAUETI ------342--
Trane Hlal I EIsOl Ey. monaz ERIGADIEN GENERIL c.n.v.D. c. 0. c. Troope. 2sth. May 1Vl6. Drig-Genl. J. KONAmI C.N.V.D. snlres c.o.c. Troope tecendein-corend! LieutoCol. J.N. CANNAN C.B. srayz ship's Adjutent i- Majer. O.C.w. FUNRMAAN leth. Da. Capt.c.w. Jonngron lbth. Da. hest. Adjutant i- capt.T.w. cRule lsth. En. Quartermeeter!- Capt. N.L. MENLEY 13th. Dn. Naggage Off ieer i- Warrant Offieer A.PRIMGLE 14th. sergeant-Majer :- Warrant Officer Flucknett 13th. er-Nasterengt.! Orderly Noom Egt. 1- Staff.Egt. Tunkbis L. Dde.N.4. Ship'e Adjutent and Chip's Sergeant Major will proceed wovrs 2. by erdinery traim to Alexandris on 30th. inet. to confer with Emberkation Staff re alletims: of Troops t. Mescec and Berthe to effieere ete. cte. Thie erder te amtherity fer Ruilway Werrante. egd. JONN MONASR. Drig- Genl. Commndg. 4th. Aust. Inf. Brigede. copiee to e s...6. Ne.l. File l3th. Bettalien l4th. Bettalien s. 1sth. Battalien.
The Officers of the lOth. Light Horse are bidding farewell to a few of their old Anzac comrades prior to their departure from Egypt. The C. O. would esteem it a favour if Brigadier General Monash,C.B.and a Staff Officer would join the party at mess, at 1900 on Wednesday next, 31st. May. Railhead, 29-5-16.
AU" IMPERIAL FORCE CR MAV301916 Ath Infantry 8 -8-R118930/0. The Genoral Officor Commanding 2nd Australian and Naw Zoaland Arny Corps, --------------------------------------------------------------- With roferonce to my C.R.18930/a/1 dated tho 27th May, pleaso note the following alterations :- In Train Timing No. 1. From Serapeum Siding: Train No.8303/743, timo leavo loading station is now 1830 instoad of 1845. Train No.836/703, timo loavo loading station is now 2210 instoad of 2240. In Train miningNo.2, From Serapeum West: Train No.832/7454, timo train roady for loading is now 1850 instoad of 1830. Train No.838/705, timo train ready for loading is now 2230 instoad of 2200. -2 Procisoly the samo altorations will be made in .R.18930/ in trei 1oe ning - 3 and 4. (sgd). A. C. W. CLAYTON, Hajor, Cairo, for Bt.Lt.Colonol, 29th May, 1918. A.G.M.G., L. of C. Copfös asfor-C.R.19930/9/1 and 2. -0000- All Units, 4th AUSTRALIAN DIVISION. Forwarded for information. (sgd). E. ARMSTRONG, Liout-Colonel, 30th MAY, 1916. A.A. & Q.M.G., 4th AUSTRALIAN DIVISION. --------------
AU av iTRALIAN DIVIS ON 4 TH. AUS Headquarters, 3Oth. May 1918. The following notes with reforenco to saluting eto. in the French Army are circulated for information and communication to all concornod. In the French Army all ranks are most punctilious about saluting, but thoir customs are difforent to those in tho British Suluntnd. service. When two or more Offioers are togother and are saluted by anothor Officer or man, all the Officors answor the salute and not the sonior Officer only, as is the custom in our Army. H.M's. Troops are asked to conform to this custom whilst in Franoe an/ar5saluted eithor by French Officers or men all the British Officers presont will roturn tho salute. It is customary and when Britl- also for Officers whenever meoting, to salute oach othor, theroforo great care should bo takon that British Officers should salute French Officers when passing them. It is quito oasy to recognise tho difforent ranks of tho Fronon Army, as badges of rank are not only worn on the sloove, but RANKS. also on tho 'KEPI' or cap; a goneral Officer is particularly distinct as he not only wears a broad, gold, laco band on his 'KEPI' but also silver stars and 5 rows of briid on the arm. Whon behind the iines, guards will turn out and Fronch General Offioors will be paid the samo honours as a General Officer in our own Forces. Staff Officers in the French Forco woar aiguillettos ovor the right shoulder and a thunderbolt on tho collar. They also wear armlets as follows:- Divistonal Staff - red with gold gronado and the number of tho Divn. - blue with gold gronado and the number of the Bdo. Brigado Staff Artillory Staff, - blue with orossod guns in gold. TRIES. Should any man bo challonged by a French Sentry, he must at onco halt and reply, Throughout the Fronch Army, regulations with San regard to tho sentries firing aro much more striot than in our servico, and a man who does not halt on the command of a sentry is fired on at onco. The words used by the French are sither (a) Halte la", (b) öqu! Vive", (c) "qui va la". Very often (a) is The answer to this challenge is the followed by either (b) or (c). one word France" which corrosponds to our word "Friend". If two men are together ono should go forward, but if the man is alono and unable to speak French ho should stand still where ho is until tho sentry has called up some of the guard to oxamine him. It must be rememborod that espionage is very groat and on many occasions Gorman spios havo disguised themselvos in British uniform in tho Fronch linos, there foro tho French aro very caroful when doaling with any single man in Eritish uniform who strays into their lines at night. The man will probably bo vory thoroughly soarched and takon under escort to Rogimental Headquarters whero he will be brought an English Intorpreter and will be able to explain his case, but it must be remombered that such searching must be undergone without any demuro. P.T.0.
-2 Distinction on Cuff. Distinction on Kepi. English Rank. 2 rows Gold Laoo 3 Silver Stars & 5 rows of G.C.C.Division. Oak and Laurol. samo colorod braid as tunio. 5 row Gold Loce 2 Silvor Stars and 5 rows G.O.C.Brigade. Oak and Laurel. of same colored braid as tunic. 5 rings Braid (a). Colonol. 5 rings altornato Gold Lt.Colonel. and Silvor Braid. 4 rings Braid (a) Major. 3 rings Braid (a). Captain 2 rings Braid (a) Lieutonant As on Ouff. 1 ring Eraid (a) 2/Ligut. 1 ring Gold or Silver Warrant Off. braid mixed with red. Double Gold or Silver Sgt. Major. stripe on foroarm. Single Gold or Silver Sorgeant. stripo on forearm. Double Stripe red or Corporal yellow on forearm. 1 Stripe Red or Yellow. L/Corporal. (a) Braid is eithor Gold or Silver according as the buttons aro gilt or silvored. - Lieut-Colonel. G.S. 4th. Australian Division.

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(e) The Inspecting Officer will then go to the
right of the line and will pass down the line to the
left. Mounted troops and unarmed dismounted troops
will come to attention, dismounted troops will come
to Attention and Slope Arms by order of Unit Commanders,
when the Inspecting Officer is passing the next Unit
but end on the right.
(f) Staff Officers will remain in front of their
Commands, and will not join the Inspecting Officer.
(g) When the Staff of the Inspecting Officer has
passed the next Unit on the left, Units will be
moved off to the right, and wheeled into position
on the Saluting Base, ready to "March Past".
The Divisional Cavalry should advance in "Marching
Past" formation until about two-hundred yards from
the saluting point and then halt. Other Units as
they assume their "Marching Past" formation should
be moved up and halted close in rear of the preceding
Unit. One Officer of the Divisional Staff
will be on duty at the "Wheeling Point" and another
at the "Starting Line" of the March Past. 
(h) The "March Past" will be in following formations.
Divisional Cavalry in Line
Divisional Cyclists in close Columns of Platoons
Artillery - Mounted - Quarter Column of
Batteries.
Dismounted - In Line at 30 paces
distance.
Engineers Column of Companies at 30 paces
distance.
Signal Company in Line
Infantry &  Column of Companies at 30 paces
Pioneer Bns,distance.
H.G.Companies. in Line. 
Field Ambulances in Line. 
(i) The saluting point will be marked by a flag
with a smaller red flag ten paces to either flank
of it. Commanders of Companies and corresponding
Units will give "Eyes Right" on rounding the first
red flag, and "Eyes Front" at the second red flag. 
(j) After passing the saluting point troops will
continue to march in the same formation for sufficient 
distance as to prevent any possibility of chocking
troops in rear. All troops will pass the North 
side of the 4th. Infantry Brigade Camp, and then
return to their own Camping Grounds by the most
convenient route.
PARADE STATES.7. Parade States will be consolidated and rendered to
Divisional Headquarters by     1100, on Monday
29th.
DK Bernard
Lieut-Colonel.
G.S. 4th. Australian Division.
 

 

Diagram - see original
Div. Cavalry.
Div. Cyclist. Coy.
F.A.Bde. (composite)
F.A.Bde. (composite)
F.A.Bde. (composite)
F.A.Bde. (dismounted)
D.A.C. (dismounted)
No 4 Field Company.
No 13 Field Company.
Div. Sig. Company.
13th Battalion.
14th Battalion.
16th Battalion.
4th Bde. M.G.Company.
45th Battalion.
46th Battalion.
47th Battalion.
48th Battalion.
12th Bde. M.G.Company.
Pioneer Battalion.
No 4 Field Ambulance.
No 12 Field Ambulance.
 

 

(AMENDED.)
WORDS OF COMMAND FOR THE
GENERAL SALUTE.

By Divisional Commander The Division will Slope Arms (Caution)
1 'G' and Lance raised perpendicularly
Brigadiers :-"The Brigade will 'SLOPE ARMS'".
(Caution)
Bn. Commanders:- "The Bn. will 'SLOPE ARMS'".
(Caution)
1 'G' and Lance lowered /"**Bn. 'SLOPE ARMS'".
Bn. Commanders :- (Executive)


[*By Divisional Commander*] General Salute. (Caution)
1 'G' and Lance raised perpendicularly and 
held up.
Brigadiers :- "General Salute" (Caution)
Bn. Commanders:- "General Salute" (Caution)
1 'G' and Lance lowered
Bn. Commanders :- "**Bn!PRESENT ARMS' "
(Executive)


[*By Divisional Commander*] The Division will "SLOPE ARMS", "ORDER ARMS",
"AND STAND AT EASE" (Caution)
1 'G' and Lance raised perpendicularly.
Brigadiers :-"The Brigade will 'SLOPE ARMS',
'ORDER ARMS, 'AND STAND AT EASE' ".
(Caution)
Bn. Commanders :- "The Battalion will 'SLOPE 
ARMS', 'ORDER ARMS', 'AND STAND AT EASE' ".
(Caution)
1 'G' and Lance lowered.
Bn. Commanders :- "**Bn. 'SLOPE ARMS' (Executive)
'ORDER ARMS' ( " )
'STAND AT EASE' ". ( " )
-----*****-----
 

 

TRANSPORT ^Trans SYLVANIA
SHIP'S ORDER No. 1
By,
BRIGADIER GENERAL J. MONASH C.B.V.D.
G.O.C. Troops. SERAPEUM
29th. May 1916.
SHIP'S STAFF 1. G.O.C. Troops :- Brig-Genl. J.MONASH C.B.V.D.

Second-in-command :-Lieut.Col. J.H. CANNAN C.B.

Ship's Adjutant :-Major. O/C/W/ FUHRMANN 14th.Bn.

Asst. Adjutant :-Capt.C.M.JOHNSTON 15th. Bn.

Quartermaster :-Capt.F.W. CRAIG 15th. Bn.

Baggage Off icer :-Capt. H.L.HENLEY 13th. Bn.

Sergeant-Major :-Warrant Officer A.PRINGLE 14th.

Quarter-Master-Sgt. :-Warrant Officer Plucknett 13th.

Orderly Room Sgt. :-Staff-Sgt TWERDIE L. Bde.H.Q.

ROUTE 2. Ship's Adjutant and Ship's Sergeant Major will proceed
by ordinary train to Alexandria on 30th. inst. to
confer with Embarkation Staff re allotting. of Troops
to Messes and Berths to officers etc. etc. This
order is authority for Railway Warrants. 

 

sgd. JOHN MONASH.
Brig-Genl.
Commdg. 4th. Aust. Inf. Brigade.
Copies to:-
No.1. G.O.C.
2. File
3. 13th. Battalion

4. 14th. Battalion
5. 15th. Battalion.
 

 

The Officers of the 10th Light Horse are bidding
farewell to a few of their old Anzac comrades prior to their
departure from Egypt.
The C.O. would esteem it a favour if Brigadier
General Monash , C.B.and a Staff Officer would join the party
at mess, at 1900 on Wednesday next, 31st. May. 
Railhead,
29-5-16.
 

 

SECRET.

AUSTRALIAN

IMPERIAL FORCE

MAY 30 1916

4th Infantry Brigade

C.R.18930/Q.

The

General Officer Commanding

2nd Australian and New Zealand Army Corps,

  1. With reference to my C.R.18930/Q/1 dated the 27th May,

    please note the following alterations :--

    In Train Timing No. 1, From Serapeum Siding:

    Train No.830A/743, time leave loading station

    is now 1830 instead of 1845.

    Train No.836/703, time leave loading station

    is now 2210 instead of 2240.

    In Train Timing No.2, From Serapeum West:

    Train No.832/745A, time train ready for loading

    is now 1850 instead of 1830.

    Train No.838/705, time train ready for loading

    is now 2230 instead of 2200.

  2. Precisely the same alterations will be made in

    C.R.18930/Q/2, in train timings Nos. 3 and 4.

(sgd). A. C. W. CLAYTON, Major,

for Bt.Lt.Colonel,

A.Q.M.G., L. of C.

Cairo,

29th May, 1916

Copies as for C.R.18930/Q/1 and 2.

All Units,

4th AUSTRALIAN DIVISION.

Forwarded for information.

30th MAY, 1916 (sgd). E. ARMSTONG, Lieut-Colonel,

A.A. & Q.M.G.,

4th AUSTRALIAN DIVISION

 

 

4TH. AUSTRALIAN DIVISION. 

Headquarters,

30th. May 1916

The following notes with reference to saluting etc.,

in the French Army are circulated for information and communication

to all concerned.

SALUTING. In the French Army all ranks are most punctilious about

saluting, but their customs are different to those in the British

service. When two or more Officers are together and are saluted by

another Officer or man, all the Officers answer the salute and not 

the senior Officer only, as is the custom in our Army.

H.M.s. Troops are asked to conform to this custom whilst in France

and when British ∧Officers are saluted either by French Officers or men all

the British Officers present will return the salute. It is customary

also for Officers whenever meeting, to salute each other, therefore

great care should be taken that British Officers should salute

French Officers when passing them. 

RANKS. It is quite easy to recognise the different ranks of the 

French Army, as badges of rank are not only worn on the sleeve, but

also on the 'KEPI' or cap; a General Officer is particularly distinct

as he not only wears a broad, gold, lace band on his 'KEPI' but also

silver stars and 5 rows of braid on the arm.

When behind the lines, guards will turn out and French

General Officers will be paid the same honours as a General Officer

in our own Forces.

Staff Officers in the French Force wear aiguillettes over

the right shoulder and a thunderbolt on the collar. They also

wear armlets as follows:--

Divisional Staff - red with gold grenade and the number of the Divn.

Brigade Staff - blue with gold grenade and the number of the Bde.

Artillery Staff - blue with crossed guns in gold.

SENTRIES. Should any man be challenged by a French Sentry, he must

at once halt and reply, Throughout the French Army, regulations with

regard to the sentries firing are much more strict than in our

service, and a man who does not halt on the command of a sentry

is fired on at once. The words used by the French are either (a)

Halte la", (b) "Qui Vive", (c) "Qui va la". Very often (a) is 

followed by either (b) or (c). The answer to this challenge is the

one word France" which corresponds to our word "Friend". If two

men are together one should go forward, but if the man is alone

and unable to speak French he should stand still where he is until

the sentry has called up some of the guard to examine him. It must

be remembered that espionage is very great and on many occasions

German spies have disguised themselves in British uniform in the

French lines, therefore the French are very careful when dealing

with any single man in British uniform who strays into their lines

at night. The man will probably be very thoroughly searched and

taken under escort to Regimental Headquarters where he will be

brought an English Interpreter and will be able to explain his case,

but it must be remembered that such searching must be undergone

without any demure. 

P.T.O.

 

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English Rank. Distinction on Cuff. Distinction on Kepi.

G.O.C.Division. 3 Silver stars & 5 rows of
same coloured braid as tunic.

2 rows Gold Lace
Oak and Laurel.

G.O.C.Brigade. 2 Silver Stars & 5 rows of
same coloured braid as tunic.

3 rows Gold Lace
Oak and Laurel.

Colonel. 5 rings Braid (a).

Lt. Colonel. 5 rings alternate Gold
and Silver braid.

Major. 4 rings Braid (a)

Captain 3 rings Braid (a).

As on Cuff.

Lieutenant 2 rings Braid (a)

2/Lieut. 1 ring Braid (a)

Warrant Off. 1 ring Gold or Silver
braid mixed with red.

Sgt. Major. Double Gold or Silver
stripe on forearm.

Sergeant. Single Gold or Silver
stripe on forearm.

Corporal Double Stripe red or
yellow on forearm.

L/Corporal. 1 Stripe Red or Yellow.


(a) Braid is either Gold or Silver according as the buttons
are gilt or silvered.
 

DK Bernard
Lieut-Colonel.
G.S. 4th. Australian Division.
 

 

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