Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 11, 31 January - 29 February 1916, Part 8

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Recds WED A20/2720 COPY OF MEESAGE FROM ANLAC To. N.L. &. A. DIVISION 11-2-16. da 190 11th. Please arrange for neve of 4th. Australian Details of Infantry Brigade from Moacear to TELEEL-KEBIR. move should be arraaged direct with D.A.D.R.T. Jemailia. Please advise this offiee and General Cox Telcelakebir date and hours of move. Address N.L. & A. Division, repeated D.A.D.R.T. and General Cox. 9 57/1239 N. Qrs. 4 th. Prisade Please say how soon you can be able to move after receipt of train timings. 85d. K.x. Earlin Mijor. Copies to:- D. A.G.N.C. Cen. Staff Div. Train 12.2.18 4th. risade Also please state what amount of baggage and stages you will have (for Nailway Transpert purposes) Tents and camp equipment will not be taken. agd. M.M. Bardin Major. D.A.Q.N.G. 12. 2. 1916
20 3. ta6/2710 Mecvear Camp, 257/2227 Ismailia. 12th. 2. 1916 Headyuarters, N.L. 5 A. Divinien 1t is decised that the rare skeald not conmence before Wednesday Peby. 16th, for reasons sabmitted perconally to the 6.O.C. 1t is susgestes to move as fellews:- Advance party of 5 Officers and 200 men with personal MLELENI bagsage, representative of all Brigade Units; to draw and pitch tentage and camp cosppment, prepare Kitchens and latrince and vater eupply. Srnoy NAY: Wil, to alloy tine for advanes party to sarry on. Tso Battalions comlate. TAIEDRIE TRTH DAY; Brigade Headquarters, Eignal Section and Twa Sittations complete, and Iselation Camp (70). Fer Railway Transpert purposes, the Brigade may be taken as being at Tull war strength with all animale and venteles. The requirements of the Frigads for tests, on a Baeis of a waximum of 10 men per tent is:- 20 E.P. tents 1.c. small marquees. 580 Bell tents. It is urged that it would he a hardship to the personnel to nove the Drisade wntil an adequate supply of tents, water etc. at Teleal- Lebir is acmired. The personal bargage and steres, which includes base Rite, vill amount to appreximately 80 tons for the whele Brigade. This is exclusive of annunition, machine suns and regimental equipment. submitted that 1t te desirable that the Fourth Field Anbulance anould ascompany the Brigrie. BRIGOGENL. Priside Major 4th. Aust.Inf.Bde
Companies A B C D Sighe Tents Bm Competition 14 Best Company Sines Totel Said werk the this week MGli self Durant week 6/2/16 31 83 22 24 20 65.5 78 24 21.5 20.5 77.5 35 22 69 23 84 81 21 37 Stretshe Beaven Repmental Police Froncers Totsl bith weeks 165 143.5 146.5 165 13/2/16 Ordrg Percentage pert 80 4 72 3 73½ 822
(P.0. No. 2 9 & o an 3) Thia portion to be nept by sender. he S t t Me 1o hie Cn a ComerVe VAr IOSpleu. POSTOFFIE, LAOMIA Llsame- MHIS SIE 4050 SCAEN3 of 5 Stant 20 40 Or 158vE ae 105 W. OEMSNI FO. occrhanoOe PaeInvVISEnT for the sum of L.E. f0 se tcomine dee mnle he o wle n paruble par to bureau ve Notice of payment. sitt to Aris de parement PoM Commission dea X Taxe percue. 5 N.D With or a withwnt ( Ar00 SAS t
Remarks— Money Orders are ralid up to the end of the second month tollowing that of issue, after which term they cannot be paid to Payce or relunded to Sender except by an authorization given by Head Office. The Post Office does not hold itself responsible for any delay in the ment of ordinary and telegraphic Money Orders. At the request of the Sender or the Payce the Office of Origin will deliver, against payment of a tax of 10 milliemes, a duplicate of a lost or destroyed Order; this duplicate will replace the original Order. Observations. -Les mandats sont valibles jusqua la kn du second mois faisant suite a celui de leur emission. Passt ce delai ils sont consideres comme perimes et ne sont payes aux destinataires ou rembourses aux expe- diteurs gue sur une autorisation donnce par la Direction Gentrale. La Poste nest pas responsable des retards dans le payement desmandats de poste ordinaires et tlegraphiques. Sur la demande de Penvoyeur on du destinataire il est delivre, par le -bureau dorigine, des duplicata pour les titres teares ou detruits, contre paiement dune taxe de millidmes 10. Le duplicata remplace en tous points. le titre original. ser he gaot t Cut oabe t thet st pp at tar reses de Bues o od oterare o p o a slettine e a ret dee die aode aid ic Aes andes is of er d es leo i Mner o oei ope a te ce cone e ds Wander glispoe ass ls eneve ov wonovever
4th. Australian Infantry Brigade HEADGUARTERS Moascar Camp, Ismailia. AUSTAELAN 14th. February 1916. 5 IMPERIE TORCE FEe14191G Camp Commandant, 44 MaMErI IYADS. Tel-el-Kebir. In order to enable me to prepare plans in advance for the Camps of this Crigade and attached Formations at Tel-el-Kebir, I should be glad if you could let me know the dimensions of the several areas of ground that will be available for this purpose. The areas required for convenience of administration and for proper sanitation have been found to be as under:- Prontage Depth. Four Battalions (exclusive of Bde. H.Qrs and Signallers. 460 7ds. 230 yds Four Battalions (inclusive of Bde. H.Qrs. and Signal Sectian - in the centre.) 520 yds. 230 yds Fourth Field Ambulance 150 yds. 230 yde 50 pds. 230 7ds. Fourth Field Company. Above includes Latrines, horse lines and vehicle parks, et me have a reply by bearer, I If you are unable to dm shall be glad if you will send, to me by special messenger, to avoid delays of the post. JhnMonash BRIG-GENL. Commdg. 4th. Aust. Inf.Bde. Fontage Dent ( & Battalions 310 X320 do for tents only 310 x 200 370 X 320 48 Mo X 60 x 300 Se cavise somt
14 446 Featamn Conmanders Totah 1 15 13 Foth 4 a 10 Totalo N m 4 1 12 over 38 8 t 11 12 Under Ander 6 A 16 6 Under 16 6 Under 64 Est. Commanders out of 42 peatoron a total Sente 1 month ypean have had len than there 16 H6 months 4 between 6412months 18 but 4 orover 12 mor 42 20
13th BATTALION, A.L.P. List of Officers serving with Battalton on 14th Feb. 1916. in orderof Senierity Proe O Present Peninsulk ed from Service in Name. Rank. Appointment. Service A. L. F. A.I.F. as Remarks. ranks. Officer. 14 Mater No 6.0 Ys Herring 866 7/2lol 13 Durrant Jono Major Yr & Command Twynash & 1 oc boy Captn ford HC 14 of Karton I 13 Adjatant Marks DG. 13 oc boy Palling HB 0 13 Maton Convander Hoptlins O. dient ✓0 17 Verry St 1/2 ofc Coy Fath Tox all Sr Ration Coundes Lent Henley Wh. Yr Jam Henderson S yr Yes MG. Officer Murray 410 or Tor Ration Howden H 5/ Knox yt 8/12 No " Allen Ad 4r Yes Thren Holman S Swak a n60 Davis Aw. as a 260 Murray H7 Iwake Lambert Paa Schadel WH. Kirkwood JB Lanagun A
TAE BATTALION, A. L. P. List of Officers serving with the Battalion' on the 14th. Feb. 1916 in order of Seniority. Present. Penineult If promet Hength of Rank. Names Appointment. Serviceed from Service in Remarks. A. L. F. A.1.F. at ranks. Officer. Mator 15 No Yes Co 22 Cl Dave Cmm 19 of Coy Fethers N.D. Captin 14 Lubrmann OC 14 Cox CRm 14 Cox aR Yes Mr asaap BGlainey Atl. 9/2 No 7days Plation Davidson wth Lieut Yes Moorhouse L Yr . Rw Y Yes Hansen SM Yr No No Wadeworth wil Thr No y M Goffer Smith B.J. Ir Yo Platson Stanton To Lal Yes as 260 am Laver wls. Hons 5/12 Yes Yes MG. Guirke Yhien Sauk No Transpat Dymonds 760 a N60 I waks Ratson Roderick J. Williamson A dimonsen t
ADAEAEE. ALL. List of Officers serving with the Battalion on the 14th. Feb. 1016 in erder of Senierity. Present. Pentaning Ht Prenstangth of Rank. Name. Appeintment. Servicged from Bervice in Remarks. Ao t0 1 Aol.F. as Officer. runkss yr to 157 H lot 60 Coanon S. 15 2n Connan Serowden RC. Mafor 16 Adj. McSharry 21 15 oe Coy Dickinson Gf. Captn. 1 Coomby w00 " 107 Johnson Cem. 7 9/r sis Corrigan IV. 15 No Am Honlapt. brang Tw. 1 10 No Platoon. Eather wm. Thients Yr Yes Roch H. Yrr + Mundell W0P. Yr No Wilson JH. For No to " Lane Tw 8/r No Yes Cooper w8 2 to to Bthan More th Yes Mr Yes Nicholls WH. Cumanus W. 7. Ad/t t Serry Signals Mitchell A Yer No Platoon North J Twak Yes a n60. MGofficer dangborne ap

Recd. 1020
4ab/2710 
COPY OF MESSAGE FROM ANZAC
To. N.Z. &. A. DIVISION 11-2-16.
Qa 190 11th. Please arrange for move of 4th. Australian
Infantry Brigade from Moascar to TEL-EL-KEBIR. Details of

move should be arranged direct with D.A.D.R.T. Ismailia.
Please advise this office and General Cox Tel-el-Kebir
date and hours of move.
Address N.Z. & A. Division, repeated D.A.D.R.T.
and General Cox.
Q57/1229
H. Qrs. 4th. Brigade
Please say how soon you can be able to move after
receipt of train timings.
sgd. M.M. Eardin Major.
D.A.Q.M.G.

Copies to:-
Gen. Staff
Div. Train
4th. Brigade   12.2.16
Also please state what amount of baggage and stxxgs you will

have (for Railway Transport purposes)

Tents and camp equipment will not be taken.

sgd. M.M. Eardin Major.

D.A.Q.H.G.

12.2.1916

 

4ab/2710
Q57/1227
Moascar Camp,
Ismailia.
12th.  2.  1916
Headquarters,
N.Z. & A. Division/
1. It is desired that the move should not commence before
Wednesday Feby. 16th, for reasons submitted personally to the G.O.C.
2. It is suggested to move as follows:-
FIRST DAY: Advance party of 5 Officers and 200 men with personal
baggage, representative of all Brigade Units; to draw
and pitch tentage and camp equipment, prepare kitchens
and latrines and water supply.
SECOND DAY: Nil, to allow time for advance party to carry on.
THIRD DAY: Two Battalions complete.
FOURTH DAY: Brigade Headquarters, Signal Section and Two Battalions
complete, and Isolation Camp (70).
3. For Railway Transport purposes, the Brigade may be taken
as being at full war strength with all animals and vehicles.
4. The requirements of the Brigade for tents, on a basis of
a maximum of 10 men per tent is:-
20 E.P. tents i.e. small marquees.
580 Bell tents.
It is urged that it would be a hardship to the personnel to move
the Brigade until an adequate supply of tents, water etc. at
Tel-el-Kebir is assured.
5. The personal baggage and stores, which includes base kits,
will amount to approximately 80 tons for the whole Brigade. This is
exclusive of ammunition, machine guns and regimental equipment.
6. Submitted that it is desirable that the Fourth Field
Ambulance should accompany the Brigade.

BRIG-GENL.

Brigade Major

4th. Aust. Inf. Bde

 

13/2/16
14th Bn Competition
Best Company Lines

Companies

Last Week

6/2/16

This 

Self

 Week

Durrant

 

 

McGlinn

 

Total this week Total both weeks Percentage

Order of Merit

 

A 83 31 22 24 77 160 80 2
B 78 24 21.5 20 65.5 143.5 72 4
C 69 35 20.5 22 77.5 146.5 73½ 3
D 84 37 21 23 81 165 82½ 1

Single Tents   Stretcher Bearer

                            Regimental Police

                            Pioneers

 

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(P.O. No. 2 G [Arabic] )
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[Arabic]
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following that of issue, after which term they cannot be paid to Payee or 

refunded to Sender except by an authorization given by Head Office.
The Post Office does not hold itself responsible for any delay in the 
[[?ment] of ordinary and telegraphic Money Orders.
At the request of the Sender or the Payee the Office of Origin will deliver
against payment of a tax of 10 milliemes, a duplicate of a lost or destroyed
Order; this duplicate will replace the original Order.
Observations. - Les mandats sont valables jusqu'à la fin du second mois
faisant suite à celui de leur émission. Passé ce délai ils sont considérés
comme périmés et ne sont payés aux destinataires ou remboursés aux expéditeurs 

que sur une autorisation donnée par la Direction Générale.
La Poste n'est pas responsable des retards dans le payement des mandats
de poste ordinaires et télégraphiques.
Sur la demand de l'envoyeur ou du destinaire il est délivré, par le
bureau d'origine, des duplicata pour les titres égarés on détruits, contre
paiement d'une taxe de millièmes 10. Le duplicata remplace en tous points
le titre original.

[[ Arabic writing]]

 

4th. Australian Infantry Brigade
HEADQUARTERS,
Moascar Camp,
Ismailia.
14th . February 1916.
AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE

Feb 14 1916

4th Infantry Brigade.
Camp Commandant,
Tel - el - Kebir.
In order to enable me to prepare plans
in advance for the Camps of this Brigade and attached Formations
at Tel-el-Kebir, I should be glad if you could let me know the dimensions of the several areas of ground that will be available
for this purpose.
The areas required for convenience of administration
and for proper sanitation have been found to be as under:-

    Frontage Depth
1 Four Battalions (exclusive of Bde. H.Qrs
and Signallers.
460 yds 230 yds
2 Four Battalions (inclusive of Bde. H.Qrs.
and Signal Section - in the centre)
520 yds 230 yds
3 Fourth Field Ambulance 150 yds 230 yds
4 Fourth Field Company 50 yds 230 yds

Above includes Latrines, horse lines and vehicle parks.
If you are unable to let me have a reply by bearer, I 
shall be glad if you will send same to me by special messenger, to
avoid delays of the post.

John Monash
BRIG-GENL
Commdg. 4th. Aust. Inf. Bde.

 

II

    Frontage Depth
1 4 Battalions
do for tents only

310 x

310 x

320

200

2   370 x 320
3   370 x 300
4   60 x 300

will advise later
H Moss  lieu

[????]
 

 

Platoon Commanders
14/2/16

Total 13 14 15 16 Totals
Total in Bn 13 9 9 10 42
Over 12 mn  2 - 1 1 4
Under 12 mn  11 9 8 9 38
Under 6 mn  9 3 3 5 20
Under 3 mn  6 3 3 4 16
Under 1 mn  6 3 3 3 16

A total of 42 platoon Commanders out of 64 Est.
Of these   16 have had less than 1 month's experience service 
                     4 between 1 & 6 months
                    18 bet 6 & 12 months
                      4 12 mos or over
                     42
112

 

13th BATTALION, A.I.F.
List of Officers serving with Battalion on 14th Feb. 1916. in order of
Seniority

 

Rank. Name. Present
Appointment.
Peninsula
Service
If promoted
from A.I.F.
ranks.
Length of
Service is
A.I.F. as
Officer.
Remarks
Major Lt Col Herring SCE C.O. Yes No 14/

-

Major {Durrant JMA  

"

"

13/

-

"

{Twynam E 2nd Command

"

"

9/12

-

Captn Ford HC o/c Coy

"

"

11/12

-

"

Barton FM o/c   "

"

"

14/

-

"

Mark DG Adjutant

"

"

13/

-

"

Pulling HD o/c Coy

"

"

13/

-

Lieut Hopkins CB Platoon Commander

"

"

13/

√   o

  Perry SL

"

"

"

13/

√   o

F/Captain Fox AG o/c Coy

"

"

11/12

-

Lieut Henley WL Platoon Commander

"

"

8/12

√  

"

Henderson JK o/QM

"

"

7/12

-

  Murray HW M.G. Officer

"

Yes

6/12

-

  Howden HC Platoon

"

"

5/12

√  

  Knox GE

"

"

"

5/12

√  

  Allen AS

"

"

No

8/12

√  

2/Lieut Holman JH

"

"

Yes

4/12

√  

"

Davis AW

"

as NCO

"

3 weeks

√  

"

Murray HF

"

as an NCO

"

"

√  

"

Lambert PAA

"

"

"

2 weeks

"

Schadel WH

"

"

"

"

√  

"

Kirkwood JB

"

"

"

"

√  

"

Lanagan A

"

"

"

"


 

 

14th BATTALION, A.I.F.
List of Officers serving with Battalion on 14th. Feb. 1916. in order
of Seniority

Rank. Name. Present
Appointment
Peninsula
Service
If promoted
from A.I.F.
ranks
Length of
Service is
A.I.F. as
Officer.
Remarks
Major Lt Col Dare CMM

C.O.

Yes

No 

15/

-

Captn Fethers ND

 o/c Coy

"

"

16/

-

  Fuhrmann OCU

"

"

14/

-

  Cox CRM

"

"

"

14/

-

  Cox AR

"

"

"

14/

-

  Blainey AR

a/aM

"

Yes

9/12

-

Lieut Davidson WR

Platoon 

7 days

No

9/12

  Moorhouse LJ

"

Yes

"

11/12

  Orr ONE RW

"

"

"

9/12

  Hanson SM

 

Yes

9/12

  Wadsworth WR

No

No

7/12

  Smith B.J.

 J MG Officers

No

"

9/12

-

  Stanton FB

Platoon 

Yes

"

8/12

Hon Lt Laver W.G.

QM

as NCO

Yes

3 weeks

-

2/Lieut Quire J

MG

Yes

Yes

5/12

-

"

Symonds HW

Transport

No

"

3 weeks

-

  Roderick JB

Platoon

as NCO

"

2 weeks

  Williamson A

"

"

"

"

  Simonsen PW

"

"

"

"

 

15th BATTALION, A.I.F.
List of Officers serving with Battalion on the 14th. Feb. 1916 in order
of Seniority

Rank. Name. Present
Appointment
Peninsula
Service
If promoted
from A.I.F.
ranks
Length of
Service is
A.I.F. as
Officer.
Remarks
Lt Col Cannan JH

C.O.

Yes

No 

15/

-

Major Snowden RE

2nd Comm

"

"

15/

-

" McShavey JP

Adj

"

"

16/

-

Captn Dickinson GF

o/c Coy

"

"

15/

-

" Coombs WW

"

"

"

/

-

  Johnson CM

"

"

"

10/

-

  Corrigan J,J,

"

xx.

Yes

9/12

-

Hon Capt Craig FW

QM

"

No

15/

-

2/Lieuts Eather WF

Platoon

"

No

/

√   o

  Koch H

"

"

Yes

9/12

  Mundwell WR

"

"

"

9/12

  Wilson JH

"

"

No

9/12

  Lane FW

"

No

No

8/12

  Cooper WJ

"

Yes

No

8/12

  Brittingham Moore HM

"

No

No

7/12

 

  Nicholls WH

"

Yes

Yes

6/12

  Cummins W

"

"

"

"

  Terry E

Of Adjt

"

"

"

-

  Mitchell A

Signals

"

"

"

-

  North FR

Platoon

"

No

6/12

  Langborne AL

MG Officer

a NCOs

Yes

3 weeks

-





 

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