Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 11, 8 January - 31 January 1916, Part 11

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L. ESTABLISHMENT;- 2. BAUTPMENT: 3. TRANSPORT:- A. TACTICS:- (a). In attack:- (0). In defence:- S. BRIGADING OF GUNS;- S. COMUNICATION:- DESCUSSION ON NACHINE OUNS Headings for Agenda Paper Moascar Camp, 29th. January, 1916.
Measear Camp, 29th. January, 1916 Bo FEAllEES TOL MENLA PATCF agree with present establishment; as the extra 2. EORUMTT rifles are not last and may be used as M.O. Escort etc. 2. RSMLEEEn Pack suddlery required for two extra yuus now on establishment. Would suggest 1 that an additional range finder be supplied. S. LAYSPORT For desert work would preps, mule or camel tranport to Pack animals; and pack animals to wheeled transport. A. LACLICE- (al. Inattackt- (10). In defencel S. ERICAra Oxcunk- am not in favour of Brigading Machine Tuns except in exceptional circumstances. I would prefer to see a Battery Machine Guns attached to each Brigade. 60
I trongly recommend that telephone communication be made available to both Corp. and CK. Guns. The Battalion Commander is then able to exercise more supervision; and ranges can be easily passed from CR. Guns to Companies. Also targets can be pointed out as observed by Companies. Chasch. M. Fare. LtCob. C014BW
Measear Camp 29th. January, 1916. By Wednesday BETUBEION O AMMITE AONS Readings for Aganda Paper Esteb 10 289t. 1cfe 24men 6 Ders 1 Batman 35. ESTABLLENENEG Ru BS.1 2 1. 88 es Wles lan, 3 NED.0 & rxmen. our estat. 23 men only IShoull rservee section olways be with section. I Should new of bs be trained to take the place of usewists. showe reser ngen rains ao ank in battition 2. EOUIENENEL Puseequipme1 angefndeSiqalling lags. S. LRAYSPORTY- O S.S. Limbeies Waggons V. Paencaddery cmperative advantage on country with good was communication during Winter & Summer Advantage of mounting gunr numbers to in crease mobility. t. EACTICSE- (al. Inattacks- (0). In defenca:= s. BEICAIn or cuns:- C. BFIemr O Intercommunicaton between Sestrong 8 To cos vaccation To Bae mao W From BMRD, to restiong D brigaded scting with their battalions. Cot. A H p
Moascar Camp 29th. January, 1916 BISTUBSIOT Of MAURITE GorS Headings for Agenda Paper Corporal Deivin Batmen Privcites. Sg. officer 1914 Catch for pay " 12 L. ESTABLISREnT 86 12-26 sncrease & second $24.24 permanently from Cays. b8 & 4 of whom should be trames cipnallers td Enlay stength & odly seconded as when requires &4 Brenadier 2. EOUIPUENT- 4 guns. 2 Bare stiored Range Finder 10 Rivolorn (2 Sr &Stca No 12 of) 2 Telephone. 4 Flap large small. Helif Cadey yn m S TRMOROMT:- 4 himberes wayous ta 4 hores 2 I wht horse available for packs -pach raddlery benng carried in limbered wayons until requires. Bacheadalery. gunspap. 4 Sets. Ammunition 8 Set. leaving 4o hop with the lembers) 12 Sets. A. EACTICS:- (2) In etteck: In commanding position available for covering fire only, on a flank if possible seldom if ever to be usta in front firg llie. 10). 22 Octenoe:- Ued only when large bodies of troop present target at rairzes from 2,000 yds & under. Machine flues should not be mounted at ranges under 500 yds from enemys benches, unles inomounted + to be used for smprise action or in night operations &his Experience has shown that in defense the guns of other Bus on flanks render most valuable support -hence necessity for close co-operation + for S. SRIOAOING OF COTSI systene which will allow of mutual co-operation without limiting to any flied a rea In attach no intercience of succontrol except to suggest to C/O. initable position & targeto. In defense best handled under Brigade rangements. S. EOMUNICATION:- 2 Tully trames sygnallers with each 2 juies-4 in all 1 Telephone wih cash two juns particularly useful on a detached or iolates writion. Fn H Caynan the op ter 15th ALE
Neasear Camp 29th. January, 1916 I nerveror on Armn amy FEALLERA POT MOTRAEESS J. ECLDLLKENLI Not less tran 4 ging per Bittalion Not more ten 16 quis per Battalion at presents Is rank fils pas gun (cs of N.C.O. Sns Diners To EMM Culeres it agoes iface sadees. Nos. 1,2,304 to be armed with pistols ony (not rfles) S. LRAEEPORE (as By wagon (of) By Pace worns - taken from limbers when required (c) By man. t. LUEICRR Cal. Inattaekt- quies to get as far forward as possible. sufpirient suppl to avoid icessity for over Tampelous care for safey of gaans. (D). Lndsfensal= yous should be used for enpilade and obligie fire neve for Dirick fre ony s. Eeiine Ecunsi- guns should be brigaded in attack only in recynoral cicstances. In a deprarse position we brigading of guns is usually of S. LOMUIGEI advantage It is recommened that at cast two signallers and two telephone instrimments be provided will an mashin gun sestions. Hope wcol counz 16a B A.1.5 3266
1 IMPERIAL JRCE 1 ANSO 1916 INSTRUCTIONS TO O.C. SKELETON ENENY Hth Mantry Br IMR. 1. Your ferce, of 6 Officers and 100 ethers will represent 2 Battalions 1.c. 8 Companies and 8 machine guns. Each half company will be 4it represented by a wite fias and each machine sun by a bane fias, plainly displayed, when firing. You will march from Camp at 0900 on Monday January 31st. preceeding 20 to village of EE WURUT ATIYA, and cress the HL WADI DRAIN by bridge immediately to the South thereof. You will dispose your ferce as as to dispute the cressing of the EL WADI DRAIN at the EZ FUEUF ATIYA Bridge by an enemy appreaching from the South East. You will employ the flags (in accordance with the volume of fire that you develep from time to tame) in order to indicate to the Empires (with the enemy) the extent of expesure of the attacking ferce as observed by you. You will take full advantage of the exercise to instruct the per- sonnel under your command to the use of fire and ground. Obtain, through Staff Captain, 18 Wide and 8 Wie Plase] and 60 arrange for return of same, on completion. Bughnm Lieut. Col Brisade Major 4th. Aust. Inf.Bde 29. 1. 1916.
KEADGUARTERS, 1 AUSTKNL 2424 IMPERIAL FCRC Moasear Camp, 30th. Jan. 1916. JAN 30 1916 4th Intantry Brigade. ALL BRIGADE UNITS:- TRMINITG:- 1. Further training programnes will not be issued until further notice. 2. Monday Jany. 31. Brigade Exercise- 14th. Battalion Musketry. 3. Tuesday Peby. 1. Battalion Exercises - 13th. Battalion - in ares C. 14th. Battalion - in area A. 16th. Battalion.- in area B. 15th. Battalion - Nusketry. 4. Wednesday Feby. 2. Divisional Exercises Musketry suepended. 5. Thursday Feby. 3 O. FrIdAY PeBY. 1 Arment-col. MM JSreade MaSOr ath. Aust. Inf. Bde
IMPERI FORCE AAN 30, 1916 Moascar Camp 243 414 UMIII. J WTIGADS 30t Jan 1915 from C.O. 13t Bastali to the SOC 4r and Iuf Brigare With reference to the interview I had with you his afternoon I attack herewith major & E. Skreys memo to me on the sugject of tentage accomodation Treng Pestorring is te C 2 13 Castulion AgF.
orM Bn To Co. 13Bn 30.1.16 The men are overcrowded in their tents at night. esspecially is this important owing to existence I diseane More tent than ahe allowed by Army we LN 520 Ordeg Gant are beeng used by officers ent are being used guard for messes contra this & Mffice, O Ede remy too to would be glad you ret we know what arrangement you are maken Dewe ythe Corring irey May

Moascar Camp,
29th. January, 1916.
DISCUSSION ON MACHINE GUNS
Headings for Agenda Paper
1.  ESTABLISHMENT:-
2.  EQUIPMENT:-
3.  TRANSPORT:-
4.  TACTICS:-
(a).  In attack:-
(b).  In defence:-
5.  BRIGADING OF GUNS:-
6.  COMMUNICATION:-

 

Moascar Camp,
29th. January, 1916
DISCUSSION ON MACHINE GUNS
Headings for Agenda Paper
1.  ESTABLISHMENT:-  Agree with present establishment; as the extra
rifles are not lost and may be used as M.G. escort etc.
2.  EQUIPMENT:-  Pack saddlery required for two extra guns now
on establishment.  Would suggest that an additional range
finder be supplied.
3.  TRANSPORT:-  
For desert work would prefer mule or camel transport to
Pack animals ; and pack animals to wheeled transport.
4.  TACTICS:-
(a).  In attack:-
(b).  In defence:-
5.  BRIGADING OF GUNS:-
Am not in favour of Brigading Machine Guns except in
exceptional circumstances.  I would prefer to see a Battery
of Machine Guns attacked to each Brigade.
6.  COMMUNICATION :-

 

6.  Strongly recommend that telephone communication
be made available to both Coys. and M. Guns.
The Battalion Commander is then able to
exercise more supervision; and ranges can be
easily passed from M. Guns to Companies.
Also targets can be pointed out as observed
by Companies.
Chas.M.M. Dare.
Lt.Col.
C.O.14 Bn.

 

Moascar Camp,
29th. January, 1916
By Wednesday
DISCUSSION ON MACHINE GUNS
Headings for Agenda Paper
1.  ESTABLISHMENT:-
Estab.                             1 off    2 .sgts.  1 cpl  24 men  6 Drivers   1  Batman    35.
Our Present estab.     1.         2.            2.       24             8     .           1                     38.
Estab. Reserv.              3 N.C.O.'s & 24 men.
Our estab.                    23 men only.
E
? Should reserve section always be with section.  ?  Should men of bn be trained
to take the place of reservists.  ?  Should reserve mg drivers receive N.C.O. rank in battalion.
2.  EQUIPMENT:-  Present equipment & 1 rangefinder & 8 signalling flags.
3.  TRANSPORT:-  (1)  G.S. Limbered waggons  v.  Packsaddlery.
Comparative advantages in country with good road communication during
winter & summer.
(2)  Advantage of mounting gun numbers to increase  mobility.
4.  TACTICS:-
(a).  In attack:-
(b).  In defence:-
5.  BRIGADING OF GUNS:-
6.  COMMUNICATION :- (I)  Intercommunication between Sections
(II)   To CO's battalion
(III)  To Bde .MG.O.
(IV)  From B.M.G.O. to Sections (a) brigaded
(b) acting with their battalions.
R.G.Ligge Capt
B.M.G.O. 4th Bde

 

Moascar Camp,
29th. January, 1916
DISCUSSION ON MACHINE GUNS
Headings for Agenda Paper
1.  ESTABLISHMENT:- 
1914 Estab for pay     Officers     Sgts    Corporals    Drivers   Batmen  Privates
                                            1               1           1                    2             1                   12.       =   18
Increase & second  }                       1          2 1                 8 6                              12.       =   20
permanently from Coys. }                                                                               24       =   24                                                                                                                                                               ___
                                                                                                                                                  63
                                                                                                                                                  62
Cu Coys strength & only             }    x  4 of whom should be trained signallers.
seconded as & where required }    & 4 Grenadiers.
2.  EQUIPMENT:-  4 guns. - 2 Barr & Stroud Range Finders.
10 Revolvers.
(2 Sgts & 1 to ea Nos 1 & 2 officers.)  2 Telephones.   4 Flags large
                    = 8.                                       2 Heliar.              8   "  small.
                                                                 2 Lamps.
                                                                 2 Telescopes.
3.  TRANSPORT:-  4 Limbered wagons ea  4 horses - 2 fron leaders being
plus 4 wheel horses.
available for packs. - pack saddlery being carried in
limbered wagons until required.  Pack saddlery:-
gun &  tripod = 4 Sets.
Ammunition = 8 Sets.
                             12 Sets.
(leaving 4 horses
with the limbers)
4.  TACTICS:-
(a).  In attack:-  Fre commanding positions available
for covering fire only, on a flank if possible
- seldom if ever to be used in front firing line.
(b).  In defence:-  Used only when large bodies of troops present
target at ranges from 2 000 yds &under.  Machine guns should not
be mounted at ranges under 500 yds from enemy's trenches, unless
dismounted & to be used for surprise action or in
night operations.  & then  Experience has shown that in
defence the guns of other Bns. on flanks render most
valuable supports - hence necessity for close co-operation & for
system which will allow of mutual co-operation
without limiting to any fixed areas.
5.  BRIGADING OF GUNS:- In attack no interference of Bns control except to suggest to C/O.
suitable positions & targets.
In defence best handled under Brigade
arrangements.
6.  COMMUNICATION :-
2 Fully trained signallers with each
2 guns = 4 in all.
1 Telephone with each two guns , particularly useful
on a detached or isolated position.
Capt Legge
J. H Cannan Lt Col
15th Bn.
A.I.F.

 

Moascar Camp,
29th. January, 1916
GOC
DISCUSSION ON MACHINE GUNS
Headings for Agenda Paper
1.  ESTABLISHMENT:-  Not less than 4 guns per Battalion
Not more than 16 guns per Battalion at present
12 rank & file per gun (exclusive of N.C.O. Signallers & Drivers)
2.  EQUIPMENT:-   Limbered wagons of pack saddlery.
Nos. 1, 2, 3 & 4 to be armed with pistols only (not rifles)
3.  TRANSPORT:-   (a)  By wagon
(b)  By Pack Horses - taken from limbers when required
(c)  By man.
4.  TACTICS:-
(a).  In attack:-
Guns to get as far forward as possible -
sufficient supply to avoid necessity for over
scrupulous care for safety of guns.
(b).  In defence:-
Guns should be used for enfilade
and oblique fire & never for direct
fire only.
5.  BRIGADING OF GUNS:-
Guns should be brigaded in attack only in
exceptional circumstances.  In a defensive
position the brigading of guns is usually of
advantage.
6.  COMMUNICATION:-
It is recommended that at least two
signallers and two telephone instruments
be provided with one machine gun sections.
H Pope  Lt Col
Commdg 16th Bn A.I.F.
31.1.16

 

AUSTRALIAN
IMPERIAL FORCE
JAN 30 1916
4th Infantry Brigade.
4 AB
2426
INSTRUCTIONS TO O.C. SKELETON ENEMY
1.  Your force, of 6 Officers and 100 others will represent 2 Battalions
i.e. 8 Companies and 8 machine guns.  Each half company will be
represented by a white blue flag and each machine gun by a blue white flag,
plainly displayed, when firing.
2.  You will march from Camp at 0900 on Monday January 31st. proceeding
to village of EZ YUXUF ATIYA, and cross the EL WADI DRAIN by
bridge immediately to the South thereof.
3.  You will dispose your force so as to dispute the crossing of the
EL WADI DRAIN at the EZ YUZUF ATIYA Bridge by an enemy approaching
from the South East.
4.  You will employ the flags (in accordance with the volume of fire
that you develop from time to time) in order to indicate to the
Umpires (with the enemy) the extent of exposure of the attacking
force as observed by you.
5.  You will take full advantage of the exercise to instruct the personnel
under your command in the use of fire and ground.
6.  Obtain, through Staff Captain, 16 white blue and 8 blue white flags, and
arrange for return of same, on completion.
JPMcGlinn
Lieut. Col
Brigade Major
4th. Aus.Inf.Bde
29. 1. 1916.

 

4AB
2424
AUSTRALIAN
IMPERIAL FORCE
JAN 30 1916
4th Infantry Brigade.
HEADQUARTERS,
Moascar Camp,
30th. Jan. 1916.
ALL BRIGADE UNITS:-
TRAINING :-
1.  Further training programmes will not be issued
until further notice.
2.  Monday Jany. 31.  Brigade Exercise-
14th. Battalion Musketry-
3.  Tuesday Feby. 1.  Battalion Exercises -
13th. Battalion - in area C.
14th. Battalion - in area A.
16th. Battalion.- in area B.
15th. Battalion - Musketry.
4.  Wednesday Feby. 2.)
5.  Thursday Feby. 3      )  Divisional Exercised
6.  Friday   Feby. 4.         )  Musketry suspended.
JPMcGlinn Lieut-Col.
Brigade Major.
4th. Aust. Inf. Bde
GOC's Copy

 

AUSTRALIAN
IMPERIAL FORCE
4AB
JAN 30 1916
2438
4th Infantry Brigade.
Moascar Camp
30th Jan 1915
From  C.O. 13thBattalion
To  The G.O.C.
4th Aust Inf Brigade
With reference to the interview
I had with you this afternoon
I attach herewith Major J. C. Storeys
memo to me on the subject of
tentage accommodation.
Sydney CE Herring
CO, Lt Col
13th Battalion A.I.F.

 

From M.D. 13th Bn
To Co. 13 Bn  30. 1. 16
The men are overcrowded
in their tents at night.
especially is this important
owing to existence of
disease.
More tents than are
allowed by Army Corps
orders 9am 19th No520
are being used by officers.
Tents are being used
for messes, guards
& offices  This is contrary
to Army Corps orders.
I would be glad if
you let me know what
arrangements you are
making to remedy this.
J Colvin Storey Maj.

 

 

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