Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 10, 25 November - 30 November 1915, Part 8

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First World War, 1914–18
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No131 CoST (C cay) embroses the mamn firing lier from I subpod (mclusinn) to Warwick Castle toe Garrison causists of 1 officer & 55 men with to Markin juus & 13ner of crew These guas are between I Abort & Warwick Castle ccommand. & enfelaas in whol of our front cammaning aso the frond of left half of to 1 Dub Dction also the RITTLE PERE t right of Franklim 104. Officer & 55 men with 12 MGu men on supports. N014780SI (3 coy) cousist of Franklins Post comin Pap. Darwick Castle to Franklen me Garrisones Cousist of 1 officer & 27 mon abitt on Machini gin &7 men of crus. BOLGHR This MGun Command BLoxk, Northern braach of AGHYLDERE approastX Hasinga tex fron Pandy Enal. abso Green snol 1 officer & 27 oen with 6 M Gan men as supports 13
No2. Sub Section resirn consist of. 160men which incluses All attaiks socepting HG Sgnallers rumberny 23 who are doing duties, here Aut 90210 Aagtn MATOR OON12 DUB. SEOTION 1910 29/11/15 19
LY TOT O.LI O For COna No. of Messase MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. Office Stamp Sent, or sent out Received Words BCate Ot Charges to collect Corrico homonor m. Received Office Handed in at TTESYWUSNSS SATSINONN 299 AAA EMaaa Fnom PLAOKATMR The ths Cion bt rand It at met WM BOBAS ARLtd-FamGH
43 SUS SECTNII HGYYLDERE No (20) 30/11/15 SPECIAL REPORT Gol. 4th Oar H.G Terracing was cantinued during the Daylight. new were employed in making shilkers forthun selves, under natuio o available to fir up permand shelters. Newharystumue was further iproved. at terraces at Newburywre worker at. Trencher were cleaner up of mudets. Tranklus weas further improved by shelters. 14) 64 M0 Today betwen 11001 1200 at a sperial rigned. from NZealanders our Yun at Franklis open but on 3 Suipers Positions &f Mgunposition at a range of 400 $500 yes respectively. Smpers Positions were 40 &60 from Franklin & mgan emplacement 150 I from fron Franklin Sia surfering the NLealdilers have not been annoyn by suiping one Turk was seeto facwle as hirshe from our of the position The e at Becks opene andan Turks rushing between Greenknall & 1addnywick af 1200 to 1300 40u r0
to 65 39 was fere altogether by M Yuns, but mostily outs position indentin were see to enter Hagkily Dick. Casualdes to An recoved at two by Becks yeu & ove from by Franklin's Gun. our Impers were ostiv today faving of all maolment of Enemy an carrer accounted for our turk who was apparently observey from redg East from Branklens Post. cala returned this morning &report Ounng very guied no argiing or novemes as Harkoy weick or Grundnin arsin DOC ME Sibbit 554O
SeeMon 47 Ath (aust.) Infantry Brigade, IMPERIAL FORCE Hay Valley, Anzac, Gellipoli Peninsuls, W2012106 MH. PIAREE, MIS.DE Headquarters, 1453 2. 2. a a. Mrision. /Ah Intantry Crizad. With reference to G.sss of 25th. instant, herewith please find tabulation mewing in, detail, distribution of available person- nel throughout this Section of Defence. With regard to this, the follow- ing considerations are submitted :- 1. The principle apolied has been tunt to hold the front lines as lightly as possible and to provide a succession of reserves for enploy- ment in the parts of the line where support or counter offensive proves most necessary. the 15th. Battalion (Streagth 587 of all ranks) is in Brigade Reserve. This is the only reserve in my hands for counter offensive or for the manning of interior lines. Mereover, since N. 2. M. R. Brigade has gone into the frent line, this Battalion is the only force available in a rear position as a general Mivisional Reserve. 3. It is submitted that the requirenents of personnel for this Section of Defence are to be measured, at the present juncture, not by wat is actually needed to derend the line against attack and assault, but by what is very urgently required during the next two or three weeks to put the Defences and Nvouacs into a satisfactory condition and to provide practiesble communications for the inpending bad weather. From this latter point of view I in of epinion that every man available to me will be urgently required for works of this description for a period of at least another three weeks. Thnkonsh SESO Commanding ath (Australian) Infantry Brigade.
AUSTRALLAN IMPERIAL FORCE 4ax 3071 NO1S05 FOURTH (AUSTRALLAN) INFANTRY BRIGADE. conow 4th Infantry Brigade. Mstribution of Personnel in Fernard Defences and by Battalions, Officers Battelion and L0 c a t 1 0 n. 14the 1et. 2317 10eA. 48 Firing Lane Do. L SUBESSOrON No 1 Post 48 Sumports 103 Local Reserve 103 about 850 yards 45 No.2 Post Bring lne 45 of trench. 30 Supports 30 Local Reserve 40 48 No 3 Post Mring line 92 92 Supports 09 25 Local Reserve 171 171 Subssection Reserves 149 120 10 12 HOTCREIS Tun on Patros Duty 18 10 34 No 1 PoSl Miring line 34 Do. S SURESEOTTON Supports 20 Local Reserve 32 32 About As0 yards Ne 2 Post Miring Line of trench Supports 25 29 Locel Reserve 46 Mring Line No 3 Post Supports Local Reserve 46 46 No 4 Post Miring Line 28 Supports Local Reserve 28 26 Sumsection Reserves 88 on Patrol Duty 152 KACKITE OUNS 40 58 52 126 40 40 40 BATTALION KEIDGYARTERS 14 63 27 22 AH DEELCHNENE Totals. 1718 558 536 623
402 Sub Secte the GOC. Brigale direds me to again call your oration to the fact that the dispositions and must other impotar matters a be signd by the oct Sab Scahm unless in Bry Special Circumstances when, in onde ant to cause tern delay ty my be synd by or Officr for 0c Pleaseaote & re So 2208 C 45 IIII OR. So No2 SUB SECTON AARYLDSRE 30/11110 Bar Major 147 4 Barky Your HAB rated 1451 I gave to my aasnt ant a rough capy of ay apposition for the nigos of 29/30 At Iwas away in the truch Iosent the one myadjutant Ea way to anaw Disposition, delay Iin exature. Q forward on my disposition, relief of ative in airail. I cansidered this was a matter for iy persoue informetin Drtin AUSTRALLENWU to IPERIAL FORCE Dublesters 2 100 F 145. at
Lew Army Form C. 2121. MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message Cose m/ Wor CAgr This message is on a/c of. and Tee ACnSSrce Miint Hate 26 1478 A1340 From ck 115 Secret. 20 Brissde 8. Aderly FanO. FrMI. OMILT/ B. G.O. 4th Brygade DAT AMont toieAt to tinte AAA 30 -11-15 OH 352 Dispositions N1 Pab-section - Night 30th Novr /1st December O Listerins posts in front of Pos) and 3 Posts. (3) 14th Br hatrold 1 N.C.O 43 men leave CONNORS GUNNEL at 2000 and 0200 returning via NI jost at 2239 and 0400 respectively Commanicated to 4 th Brgade adjining Sab-sections + all osts). I Darrants Post PaCc tin Major O.B.P. Sub setios The Coretmy be forwarded as now coreded OAINAMNMONE DICAMNNMILE Conr This line should be crased if not required. 64 N02 See Secton M 1Ss Se Hom Dent a 1178 N 608 HORS Departions of N 102 Soe Secrad t Na2 SuD SecTion 45Bcot panoe in fou relief as uuder sell lease MarsE Tennc4 at 1739 return of last relie 0330) proceeding up LT7I0 DERA to p pout (40ya in frout If line drcewe from Pantrs to Bocks, Patrol consis (Mes I man CROLICO DCM 1730_ 1930 P P 222- p022 C. BnAd CCoN p30p0 + 2204 Pd 4132 - 03323 (a) A patiot of NCARwar will leave Docts 2 /0330 going in direction of Excon Nv026 £0 & returning at 0830 For purpose of hstening & observing A patrol of 1NC0 53 ment will leave Nenocgers in a hearing 1300 to a point about 50 yards in advnce of our line This patrel will be reliefs it (rog oane (rLitE 123a to 1e3a 3 ponc 2136 to 0050 2n Ao 193 to 269 4t d 9334 to 9430 No1S00 Section B Bestenng poot in fron a Na 145 fa5 BBr Patio (MASmar lease Cvree Yevish at 2020 & 10200 raturning ord No lost at 2230 & a420 rapelady o Ce e
mm Ar FORM. Army Form C. 2121 No. of Mossage MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. CF Wards] PreLE CodeM Rood. atM. This measage is on a/c of: Office of Orisin and Service instruction Son n Jas Service AE1I m Brom 4H 20 m By 13/ BBirenro d Fraatiax Obe) - Btte Aust 4th T0 to wt to t D ST Satis Kn AAA 30 th 812 B.M night d The Passwo for SCOTLAND 30th 1st is NI 155 Aun 1813 N. 253 tt 1645 - Bde Tuf From Place De to Pime The alow my to Conerest as an anaiet 12) Ma a mumum Convor.] Sienacuro of Addrowor or porson oviborived 10 1010er206 in his acme. This line should be crased if as rouired

No (3) POST (C Coy) embraces the 
main firing line from F Sub post 
(inclusive) to Warwick Castle (incl
Garrison consists of
1 Officer & 55 men with two
Machine Guns & 13 men of crew
These guns are between L SubPost
& Warwick Castle & commands
& enfilades the whole of our front
commanding also the front of
left half of No 1 Sub Section
also the LITTLE DERE to right
of Franklins Post.
1 Officer & 55 men with 12 MGun
men in Supports.
No (4) POST (B Coy) consist of
Franklins Post, comm sap.
Warwick Castle to Franklin (incl)
Garrisones consists of :-
1 officer & 27 men with one
Machine Gun & 7 men of crew.
This M.Gun commands BULGAR
BLUFF, northern branch of
AGHYL DERE, approach to
Hackney Wick from Sandy Knoll.
also Green Knoll.
1 Officer & 27 men with 6 M Gun
men as supports
13

 

No 2. Sub Section reserve
consists of 168 men which
includes all details excepting
HQ Signallers numbering (23)
who are doing duties, here
& Out Posts

 

E Margolin    MAJOR
OC No(2) SUB. SECTION.
1910 - 29/11/15
14

 

"C" Form (Original). Army Form C. 2123
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS No. of Message
Prefix      Code     Words
Charges to Collect £ s d
Received
From QA
By RGS
Sent, or sent out
At        m.
To     138
By
Office Stamp
BQ 30/11
Special Instructions
Handed in at      Office    m.    Received 0508 m
To   4th Bde
Senders Number          Day of Month        In reply to Number       AAA
QA 550                            30th                           -
Report for 24 hours ended 0500
30/11/15
1. Sniping tally. At 1500  IP 2517
Pte. P. Frost 13th Bn accounted.
for a Turk 60 yds North of FARM aaa
Eight to date aaa
2. Casualties nil aaa
3. Tunnel and winter quarters
progressing aaa
4. Patrols and listening posts
nothing to report
DW
Bm 1811
JM
FROM Durrants Post
PLACE & TIME  0500
*This line should be erased if not required.

 

63
141
No (20) 
SUB SECTION
AGHYL DERE
30/11/15
SPECIAL REPORT  
GOC 4TH Bde H.Q
Terracing was continued
during the Daylight.
Men were employed in
making shelters for themselves, 
until material
is available to put up permanent
shelters.
Newbury tunnel was
further improved, also
terraces at Newbury were
worked at.
Trenches were cleaned
up of mud etc.
Franklins was further
improved by shelters.


64
140 Ma Today between 1100 & 1200 as a special request from N.Zealanders our           gun at Franklins opened out on 3 Snipers     positions & 1 M Gun position at a range of 400 & 500  yds respectively.
Snipers Positions were 40o & 60o from Franklins & MGun emplacement  150o from from Franklin  Since our firing the  NZealanders have not  been annoyed by sniping. One Turk was seen to fall while as he rushed from one of the positions
The Gun at Becks opened
out on Turks rushing  between Green Knoll & Hackney Wick at 1200 to 1300 400 rds

 

65
139
was fired altogether by 
MGuns, but mostly 
onto position where Enemy
were seen to enter Hackney
Wick. Casualties to Enemy
recond at two by
Becks Gun & one from by 
Franklins Gun. 
Our Snipers were active 
today firing at all 
movement of Enemy. 
Pte Carter accounted 
for one Turk. who 
was apparently observing 
from ridge East from 
Franklins Post. 
Patrols returned this 
morning & report. Enemy 
very quiet no digging 
or movement at Hackney 
Wick or Green Knoll 
E Margolin
OC No2 SubSection 
0540 [*DW BM 1811*]
JM

 

47 32 
Headquarters, 4th (Aust.) Infantry Brigade,        
Hay Valley, Anzac, 
Gallipoli Peninsula, 
30th November, 1915. 
AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE 
4aB NOV 30 1915 
1452 
4th Infantry Brigade 
Headquarters, 
N. Z. & A. Division.
With reference to G.958 of 29th. instant, herewith 
please find tabulation shewing in detail distribution of available person-
nel throughout this Section of Defence. With regard to this the follow-
ing considerations are submitted :-

  1. The principle applied has been xxxx to hold the front lines as 
    lightly as possible and to provide a succession of reserves for employment in the parts of the line where support or counter offensive proves most necessary. 
    2. The 15th. Battalion (Strength 567 of all ranks) is in Brigade 
    Reserve. This is the only reserve in my hands for counter offensive or 
    for the manning of interior lines. Moreover, since N. Z. M. R. Brigade 
    has gone into the front line this Battalion is the only force available 
    in a rear position as a general Divisional Reserve.

    3.  It is submitted that the requirements of personnel for this Section 
    of Defence are to be measured, at the present juncture, not by what is actually needed to defend the line against attack and assault, but by 
    what is very urgently required during the next two or three weeks to 
    put the Defences and Bivouacs into a satisfactory condition and to 
    provide practicable communications for the impending bad weather. From this latter point of view I am of opinion that every man available  
    to me will be urgently required for works of this description for a 
    period of at least another three weeks. 
    John Monash Brig.-General, 
    Commanding 4th (Australian) Infantry Brigade. 

     

AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
4aB 30/11/15 
NOV 30 1915 
1452 
4th Infantry Brigade. 
FOURTH (AUSTRALIAN) INFANTRY BRIGADE. 
Distribution of Personnel in Forward Defences and by Battalions.   
31

      Battalion
Location.   Officers and O.R. 13th. 14th. 16th.

NO. 1 SUB-SECTION

About 

650 yards 

of trench.

No 1 Post

Firing Line 

48 48    
  Supports 52

52

 

   
  Local Reserve 103 103    
 

No 2 Post

Firing Line

45 45    
  Supports 30 30    
  Local Reserve 49 49    
 

No 3 Post

Firing Line

92   92  
  Supports 99   99  
  Local Reserve  171   171  
  Sub-section Reserves 149 120 29  
  Hotchkiss Gun 12   12  
  On Patrol Duty 18 10 8  
No. 2 SUB-SECTION 
About 
480 yards 
of trench

No 1 Post

Firing Line

34     34
  Supports 20     20
  Local Reserve 32     32
 

No 2 Post

Firing Line

51     51
  Supports 29     29
  Local Reserve 46     46
 

No 3 Post

Firing Line

49     49
  Supports 28     28
  Local Reserve 46     46
  No 4 Post Firing Line 28     28
  Supports 20     20
  Local Reserve 26     26
  Sub-section Reserves 88     88
  On Patrol Duty 12     12
MACHINE GUNS   152 48 52 52
BATTALION HEADQUARTERS   126 40 46 40
ON DETACHMENT   63 14 27 22
  Totals. 1718 559 536 623
 

147 OC
No. 2 Sub Section 
The G.O.C. Brigade direct 
me to again call 
your attention to the fact 
that these dispositions and  
other important matters must should 
be signed by the OC the 
Sub Section unless in 
very special circumstances 
when, in order not to 
cause serious delay, they 
may be signed by an 
officer "for O.C.
Please note & return 
*4AB 1457* 
J P McGlinn Liet. Colonel, 
BRIGADE MAJOR 4th INF. BRIGADE
AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL FORCE
30 NOV 1915

OR 56
No 2 SUB SECTION
AGHYL DERE
30/11/15
148
Bde Major
4th Bde HQ
Your 4 AB/1457 noted.
(1) I gave to my Adjutant a
rough copy to my dispositions
for the night of 29/30th.
As I was away in the trenches
my adjutant signed & sent the
Disposition completed away to avoid
delay.
In future I will forward
(2) in my dispositions, relief
of Patrols in detail.
(3) I considered this was a
matter for my personal
information.
E Margolin
Major  CO No
2 Sub Section
1200
J.M.
AUSTRALIAN
IMPERIAL FORCE
4ab
Dec 1 1915
1457
4th Infantry Brigade             

 

"A" Form    Army form C 2121
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS   No of Message
Office of Origin & Service Instructions.
Secret.
Words
Charge
Sent.
At 1340 m.
To Brigade
By Orderly
This message is on a/c of:
4AB/1478 Service.
(Signature of "Franking Officer")
Recd at m.
152
Date
From Recd 1415
By
TO G.O.C
4th Brigade
*Sender's Number          Day of Month                In reply to Number             AAA

QA552                            30-11-15.                             -
Dispositions No 1 Sub-Section - Night
30th Novr/1st December.
(1) Listening Posts in front of Nos. 1 and 3
Posts.
(2) 14th Bn patrols 1 N.C.O & 3 men leave
CONNORS TUNNEL at 2000 and 0200
returning via No 1 Post at 2230 and 
0400 respectively.
(Communicated to 4th Brigade adjoining
Sub-Sections & all Posts.).

From Durrants Post.
Place Sydney Ch Herring Major
Time O.C. No 1 Sub-Section
JM
The above may be forwarded as now corrected
Censor.
(Z)
Signature of Addressor or person authorized to telegraph in his name.
*This line should be erased if not required.

 

5th Bn. 
OR58
NO2 SUB SECTION
AGHYL DERE
30th Nov 15
153
TO A M R
NO 1 SUB SECTION
4TH BDE H QRS
4aB
1478
Disposition of Nos. 1 & 2 SUB SECTIONS NIGHT 30/11/15 - 1/12/15
NO 2 SUB SECTION
LIST. PATROLS (1) a patrol in four reliefs as under will
leave MORSE TUNNEL at 1730, return of last
relief 0330, proceeding up LITTLE DERE to
a point 40 yds in front of line drawn from
FRANKLINS to BECKS, patrol consist 1 NCO, 3 men,
1st RELIEF D Coy 1730 - 1930 3rd Rel 2230 - 0030 C.
2nd " C Coy 2000 - 2200 4th " 0130 - 0330 D.
PATROL (2) A patrol of 1 NCO & 2 men will leave BECKS
at 0330 going in direction of GREEN KNOLL
& returning at 0530
For purpose of listening & observing
LIST. PATROL (3) A patrol 1 NCO & 3 men will leave
NEWBERRYS on a bearing of 135° to a
point about 50 yards in advance of our
(reliefs series) line, this patrol will be reliefs 4 series
1st RELIEF  1730 to 1930 3rd RELIEF 2130 to 0030
2nd "  1930 to 2130 4th " 0230 to 0430
NO1 SUB SECTION
(A) Listening posts in front of Nos 1&3 Posts
(B) 14 Bn Patrols 1 NCO & 3 men leave CONNORS
TUNNEL at 2000 & 0200 returning via NO1
Post at 2230 & 0400 respectively
E L Margolin Major
O.C N2 SubSec.

JM

 

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By
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From 1478
By
TO  4th Aust Bde      151
Sender's Number          Day of Month                In reply to Number               AAA
BM 812                           30th                                    -

 

The password for night
30th/1st is SCOTLAND
BM1815 { No 1 SS

                {No 2 SS
JPMcG
1645
JM
From NZ Inf Bde
Place
Time 1600
The above may be forwarded as now corrected.
Censor.
(Z) ROCleasicey   Major
Signature of addressor or person authorised to telegraph in his name.
*This line should be erased if not required.

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