Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 10, 18 November - 25 November 1915, Part 10

Conflict:
First World War, 1914–18
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Sir John Monash (General, b.1865 - d.1931)
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2 P A SONSRN MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No of Mossage Words] Charge Recen n C pide a mntemnengag la Noto 283 eN S HoW I SICMANPALLHINRRVE ONAOTY PPO C.C.Se N Bregath M 5/54 Dispositions No.Lquo-sec, - Nignt 23rd2atn M H AAA LURNATION (1) (a) no.2 suo-eootien. Patiels of three wen cacn from BEike SAUFT to GALEN KNOML 1830 to 2100 and 0200 to 0400. firt 5N.C.0. and 5 men leave varrieade at 1850 proceeding along AAAXL bnnx due east and returning at 2050. to) Tanterpury an. Patrois to their Frent 1850 to 2200. (0) FasSNOrA CCLAK. LNTENTIOA. (2) (a)] 13ta an. Patrol 1 s.C.b. and owen leave CONMORs Tonnt at 2500 returning via right of no. 1 Post at 0300. Listening fosts and scrue cutting parties in Frent of No. 1 Post From 1330 to 00ot. ast Chpt. Atortent, Vota a. issuan at 1005. COPSNO. 1 odd pars. 2 SeAterburY SA O.J. No.2 O.U. n0.1 Post Subssoc. O.t. no. & Post n Odatat a East MO (14ta Dn). N C. Mic. 210 The aboot may be sonverded as now correace caor. ratoro d icman or an a o w.. W. This line should be crased Hf not required. M EELE L EEA -MI, TML Sor CMMIS. 851 Soe Pectior No2 that AEAYLDERE 15h n 29 ured at a415 14 Priende Intants Dispontions of M2 Sir Sec for Aght 232 221 Nov 1915 OA patrol of 2man will lears LAFORnATAN BECHS BLOEP at 1839 and A200 going in directionof Parthats CREEN KNICLL) & returning at for the 2122 & aya2 respectively purpose of instening obsersing enciness inorcincets. A patrol of 1MCo&Bean will lease BARRICROE a 1830 proceeding alonge H0Nyl DERE due Cast. rreturning at 2030 reporting t5 on return to OC Na 2 Past 68 162 Ba 4Bde No1SO0 SECINN 42 42
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2 26 0.P. 5 p2462219 8 1614 While it /1s extipe 2 Commckadble for a Company Commander to endeavour /to Further the interests 0f Enyman purden his Cconnand especially ifne polleyes) Such Prefement to (be ix the interests 24 the Company. pet the tems in Wnich (Lient. Parks 428/Agno/E41S in the present 6230 are. t0 397 the 8256 1fL-choSaR, and pofacr C27 2050 1p62 Inpropriety. 4 I7tiS not indeFstood 10r Brivate has peen aIdNed, For 3 mou to Capry tho duties of oft Company Quartemaster Sergeapt wstndut a4y Fec0 mendation. 43 t0 the prefatiro dua 171041040 of 1no t mex pudey notice, the CJ0. Battplfoa 13 301627 Pesponsiple/ For Bugh p recomonpat10p, fantt must therefore be left en iufettered discrettop in parin 14. Oqually there pust (e very sGrone reasdpeFor recopmanaing that ap 490 p854670 2410 be superseded) by a private. 4 In tho present 62ge. nothing 1110 WhIch would Justiry my Aeelinips to agcept (the 7ocome 4162 82 240 C.9. ptte2194. 0 utoe V2l2er HdF 220 Briergenf. Commenaine 23/24124 4th. AUst 7aF Brigade. tote notd ehnd. 4 te t2 t Dadidatin Retherne nota of W Ci
3 2 20 W02 SoD Section 5 HW DERE 16BN 1109 TMPERLE n123-11-15 4at Bae Ser NoY23IIS 4 3a 1293 Attentry tri I beg to report. following alleralian in pests in this SUB SECTION allotlman the apphended table gins lists of officers officers attached commanding various post to same Com Ar HAAWADD alingushes No3 Port Can To CAPT. PAPES asseries do do Post LIEOT EVANS relinguishes Can N 4 Con da do HARWAAD asoues CopI 21-11 fom 170 taking effect &Saps commanding Forty Showing officers associaled in command +officers Bluk No Newburgs & Beck 1 Post also sap from MORSE Cauniel to NEW BURYS IN. CAMNIAND PAREER HC LEOI ASSOCIATED E.S.M BUSH C.S.M. SILLEY D
37 No. 2 Post Fincent BARRICRDE comprising Po old No 4 trench to tering INCennAND LIEUI AP. TMLAY ASSACIATED WGHARTLEY LIEUT TOCKER X d RS SAMERUILLE An No 3 MAIN FIEINE Pot line from comprising old Nox por WARWIck CASTLE ti IN ConNEND LCOT EYPREES ASSAOIATED LEUTCo PTL SoI it? No 4651 WARINICR from Comprising Sap CASTLE TRANKLINS Past tII FRANKLINS BsI IN CAMMAND CApT.R HARWOOD ASSOCIATED LIESTSH AOAMS LEST CF. EVANS second in Cor 10
NoTE X temporatlt engineer t be promoted acting in 0 Tucker Cons Lear 4 delached Den H9 as tI officers from today CSM BUSH CSM TILLE SCT PTTS have been to recommended 2ocent are lemparakely this these capacity on port T

37
Fireing line has been 
generally improved right
through my Sub-section. 
SNIPERS REPORT
1 NCO and 8 men on duty 
all day. 
3 pay books were recovered 
from Aghyl Dere 155 oo
from barricade at 
400 yds distance.
[*Sep Rept*]
Our Turk was observed
firing from a position about 
10 yards from the Grey Turkish 
trenches EAST from Becks 
4 shots were fired at him
& apparently he was wounded
as no fire drawn from there 
afterwards.  
106

 

Machine gun on no (1) Post 
36
O.C. No 1 Post reports that
at 1830 1730 Enemy was 
advancing from Green Knoll 
towards Franklins. 
number about 6 Turks. 

Four Turks were accounted
for by machine gun fire 
from Becks Bluff. 

Patrol sent from Becks 
report that digging could 
be heard at Hackney Wick.

We think that Enemy 
are holding Hackney 
Wick as an outpost. 
by night only & are 
digging in their.  Apparently 
Turks accounted for were 
party going to take up their 
position for the night.
ELMargolin  CO 16 Bn  05020
JM

 

"C" Form. (Original.)  Army Form C.2123.
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message
Prefix   SM  Code FL Ran    Words  21
Recd
From  ZPB
By    RAS
Sent, or sent out
At   m.
To   35
By
Office Stamp.
BQ
23/11
₤  s.  d.
Charges to collect
Service Instructions. 
Handed in at the    ZPB  Office at     m.    Received here at  710 m.

TO  4th Aust Bde
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA
  BM 513                           23                                ____
Quite uneventful period aaa
address 54th Div
repeated 161st Bde
and 4th Aust Bde
Bm 1691

JM
FROM    162nd Bde

TIME & PLACE 0655

 

"A" Form.   Army Form C. 2121.
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS.   No. of Message
Prefix   Code   m.
Office of Origin and Service Instructions.
Words. Charge
Sent
At   m.
To   Recd 1612
By 
This message is on a/c of:
4AB/1299   Service.
(Signature of "Franking Office.")
[*AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
NOV 23 1915
4th Infantry Brigade*]
Recd. at     m.
Date 
From   43
By
TO   4th Aust
3 LH  Brigade
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA

   Bm 742                            23rd                        ___
Password for night 23rd/24th
is COBAR
No 1 SS } 
No 2 " " }     Bm 1696
1615 - 22 XI  15.
JPMcG

JM

From     N Z Inf Bde
Place
Time     1540
F H Lauper

for Brigade Major
NZ INFANTRY BRIGADE

 

"C" Form (Duplicate). Army Form C. 2123.   
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message
QA
RFS
Charges to Pay. 
₤   s.   d.
42
Office Stamp.
BQ 
23/11
Service instructions.
Handed in at            Office    m.   Received    1657 m.
TO   4th Bde
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA
  QA 481                          23                           BM 1696
BM1696 noted aaa
Dispositions on the way
down
JM
FROM    Durrants Post

TIME & PLACE 1645

"C" Form (Duplicate). Army Form C. 2123.  
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message
4aB/1299 
QF / 975
Charges to Pay. 
[*AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
NOV 23 1915
4th Infantry Brigade*]
₤   s.   d.
41
Office Stamp.
BQ 
23/11
Service instructions.
Handed in at            Office    m.   Received    1850 m.
TO   Bde Mjr 4th Bde
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA
 QE 129                              23                           BM 1696
Password noted 

FROM   O.C. No2 Subsection 

TIME & PLACE 1845
 

 

"A" Form.   Army Form C. 2121.
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS.   No. of Message
Prefix   Code   m.
Office of Origin and Service Instructions.
Q.A. 482
Words. Charge
Sent
At   m.
To 
By 
This message is on a/c of:
[*Received
1700 / 23- XI-15
 1 Hour overdue
Explanation? 

Bm 1699 *]

SECRET
Service.
(Signature of "Franking Office.")
Recd. at     m.
Date    44
From
By
TO  O.C. 4th Brigade
Dispositions No. 1 Sub-sec.  - Night 23rd/24th
November 1916
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA
INFORMATION (1)  (a) No. 2 Sub-section. 
(i) Patrols of three men each from BECKS 
BLUFF to GREEN KNOLL 1830 to 2100 and 0200 to 0400. 
(ii) 1 N.C.O. and 3 men leave barricade 
at 1830 proceeding along AGHYL DERE due east and
returning at 2030.

(b) Canterbury Bn. Patrols 
to their front 1930 to 2400. 
(c) Password      -    COBAR. 
INTENTION.  (2)    (a) 13th Bn. Patrol 1 N.C.O. and 
3 men leave CONNORS TUNNEL at 2400 returning via 
right of No.1 Post at 0300.

(b)   Listening Posts and scrub cutting parties in front of No.1 Post from 1830 to 0530.
BM Larkin Capt.

A/Adjutant, 13th Bn. 

Issued at 1645.

Copy No.1  Bde hqrs.                 2 Canterbury Bn

                  3  O.C. No.2                 4  O.C. No.1 Post

                      Sub-sec.                  5  O.C. No. 2 Post

                  6. O.C.N.Z.E.               7 O.C. No .3 Post

                                                             (14th Bn.)

                       8. File
JM


OR21      
No2 Sub Section

AGHYL DERE
 23-11-15 
[*AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
NOV 23 1915
4th Infantry Brigade*]
4aB 1296

16TH Bn                issued at 1500                       45

 Dispositions of No2 SUB SECTION  for

                                          night 23-24 NOV 1915

INFORMATION  PATROLS 
(1) A patrol of 3 men will leave 
BECKS BLUFF at 1830 and
0200 going in direction of 
GREEN KNOLL & returning at
2100 & 0400 respectively, for the 
purpose of listening & observing  
enemy's movements. 
(2) A patrol of 1 NCO & 3 men will 
leave BARRICADE at 18.30 proceeding 
along  ^'X' AGHYL DERE due East
&  returning at 20.30 reporting 
on return to O.C. No. 2 Post. 

[* ?
'X'
Lieut Paull's attention
called Explains about 
new "Little Dere" *]

To O.C.s

162 Bde

4 Bde

No 1 Sub Section 

E L Margolin C.O.

O.C. N2 Sub sec 16 Bn
JM

 

"C" Form (Duplicate). Army Form C. 2123.  
MESSAGES AND SIGNALS. No. of Message
4aB/1320
Charges to Pay. 
₤   s.   d.
71
Office Stamp.
BQ 
23/11
Service instructions.
[*AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
NOV 23 1915
4th Infantry Brigade*]
Handed in at            Office    m.   Received    m.
TO   4th Bde
*  Senders Number.     Day of Month.   In reply to Number     AAA

   QA 486                         23rd
Patrol returned 23.15 AAA  All 
posts and adjoining Sub Sections 
notified.

FROM                  Durrants Post
PLACE & TIME  2315

                                                                    

 

 

[*4AB
1230
1258 *]
O.C.,

16th. Battalion.
1. While it is entirely commendable for a Company 
commander to endeavour to further the interests of 
any man under his command, especially if he 
believes such preferment to be in the interests of 
the Company, yet the terms in which Lieut. Parks 
has done this, in the present case, are, to say the 
least, ill-chosen, and border very closely upon 
impropriety. 
2.  It is not understood how a Private has been 
allowed, for 3 months, to carry out the duties of 
Company Quartermaster Sergeant without any recommendation.
3. As to the relative qualifications of the two 
men under notice, the C.O. Battalion is solely 
responsible for such a recommendation, and must
therefore be left an unfettered discretion in making 
it.  Usually there must be very strong reasons for 
recommending that an N.C.O., if suitable and available, 
be superseded by a Private.
4.  In the present case, nothing is disclosed which 
would justify my declining to accept the recommendation 
of the C.O. Battalion .
Hay Valley, Anzac,  
23/11/15 
John Monash           Brig.-Genl.  

Commanding 4th. Aust. Inf. Brigade.    

(To be noted and returned)

 G.O.C. 4th Inf
noted and Returned
EL Margolin 

Major
Sec 16th

 

OR 20
No2 Sub Section 

AGHYL DERE

23-11-15

[*AUSTRALIAN 
IMPERIAL FORCE
NOV 23 1915
4th Infantry Brigade*]       
16 BN  

1100
4aB/1293        
Bde Mjr                                                                                   
4 Bde

I beg to report following allocation in 
allotment of posts in this SUBSECTION.

The apphended table gives lists of officers 
commanding various posts, & officers attached 
to same. 
1.    No3 Post      CAPT HARWOOD relinquishes COM
          d"      d"     TEP CAPT PARKS  assumes      COM
        No 4 Post   LIEUT EVANS      relinquishes   COM
         d"       d"      CAPT HARWOOD    assumes    COM
        taking effect from 1700 21-11-15
2. Showing officers commanding posts and saps
&  officers associated in command. 
No1 POST Newburys and BECKS Bluff also 
sap from MORSE tunnel to  NEWBURYS

IN COMMAND

LIEUT PARKER H.C.

ASSOCIATED

# C.S.M. BUSH

# C.S.M. JILLEY  
9

 

2                       

No 2 POST comprising BARRICADE &  main 
firing trench to old No 4 Post.

IN COMMAND
LIEUT A.P. IMLAY
ASSOCIATED
LIEUT W.G. HARTLEY
#    d"  V. TUCKER
      d"  R.S. SOMERVILLE

No 3 POST comprising MAIN FIRING line from 
old No 4 Post to WARWICK CASTLE 

IN COMMAND

LIEUT E.J. PARKS

ASSOCIATED

LIEUT COOK

# SGT POTTS

No 4 POST
Comprising sap from WARWICK 
CASTLE to FRANKLINS POST & FRANKLINS 
POST 

IN COMMAND

CAPT. R. HARWOOD

ASSOCIATED

LIEUT S.H. ADAMS

LIEUT G.F.EVANS  Second in Com.

10

3.

3.

NOTE   # Lieut Tucker of D Coy 
is temporarily detached to Gen HQ as 
engineer officer from today.

#     C.S.M. BUSH

        C.S.M. JILLEY

         SGT POTTS      

have been recommended to be promoted to 
2nd Lieut and are temporarily 
acting in this capacity on these posts.       


PR Paull  Lt
a/adjunct
for CO
 16 Bn.


 

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