Sir John Monash, Personal Files Book 1, 5 November - 15 December 1914 - Part 2

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First World War, 1914–18
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Sir John Monash (General, b.1865 - d.1931)
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  • Documents and letters
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o. BATI ALN . p - 3 - November 12th 1914. To:- Brigade Major 4th Infantry Brigade. Reported on Lieut. B. Combes H.N.Boyle) 11-11-14. Lieut. W. H. Hamilton reported on A. H. Zarwen-walker) 12-11-14. -Litiasttekt--Lieut. Col. Commds. 1ith Battalion, A I. F.
t- ...... Mrr - 3 - November 12th 1914. To:- Brigade Major ith Infantry Brizade. Lieut. E. Combes Reported on N.N.Beyle) 11-11-14. Lieut. W. N. Namilton reported on A. N. Carven-Walker) 12-11-14. -bansdark--Lient. Col. Commdg. lith Battalion, A I. F.
50 VICTORIA BARRACKS, MELBOURNE, 13th November, 1914. Dear Major Robertson, I have been told that you would not be averse from buying a suitable horse as officer's charger, if the officer concerned preferred it to another. Now, I happen to know a horse which suits me down to the ground. For five or six years past, I have been in the habit of hiring the same charger from James Carton & Sons, Lonsdale Street, Melbourne, and have always found her most satisfactory. She is a bay mare, aged, no visible brande, abeut 15.2 bande high, with large white star, streak and snip, strong, well up to my weight, very docile but active, and with easy paces. Her name is Lurline. I have ascertained that the mare is valued at £25, but I think that, owing to my long friendship with Mr. Charles Garton, he might let me have her for 220. The mare can be inspected any day at Garton's Stables by giving them 24 hours notice to have her in for inspeetion. I believe she is in every way sound, and if an inspection proves this to be the case, I am sure she would suit me down to the ground. Kindly let me know what you think. Yours faithfully, Major W. St.L. Robertson, Director of Remounts.
Appointment. Major er Captain Subalterns Col.Sgt. Sergeants Drummers Corporals Pioneers Privates Signallers Stretcher Bearers. Drivers Batmen Total ALTERATION IN PERSONNEL (COMPANY). ----------- .---------------------------------------- Increase. Decrease. 2 Single Double Coy. Coy. 2 C.S.M. 2 (c.q.M.s. 8 4 10 10 2 4 2. 188 188 ..4 . . 6 238 aa1 227 727 With Battalien Head-Quarters.
Detail. Hd.Grs. Bicycles. Carte, Maltese, Medieal Water s.A.A. Wagons, limbered, S.A.A. tools. cooks. Wagon, limbered for gun M.c. 4 ammunition. Cart, S.A.A. Coys. pack ammunition. tools. Travelling Kitchens. INFANTRY BATTALION. ------------------------------- TRAXSPORT. In- Present. 2 Coy. crease. Orgzn. 9 1 2 2 54 2 2 4. ie 8 8 De¬ crease. Remarks. Instead of limbered wagons. Issied if no kitchens. Instead of 2 limbered wagons. Where are Coy. tools to be carried?
BRlGiDs vools Detail ags 3. à- å. i 5 A.I.F. Orders No.17 Para 84. To each Battalion 1so Brigade Leadquarters 4o 20 222 2 13th. Battalion 222 148 l4th. Battalion 222 20 146 15th. Battalion so 222 1 s 146 léth. Battalion ----------.---..........--..--...-.--..--.-..-.. --------- 32 ez loos es ss e?z el 16o Total ....--.-..---- ..--.......................................... .----..-.------- Section No.167 Infantry Training 1914. 20 110 40 13th. Battalion 40 20 110 14th. Battalion 20 110 ie l5th. Battalion 20 110 16 e léth. Battalion i ses 3 tes Brigade Reserve not limbered .---.-.--.------------..-...--- ----------------- lo ce ss ezz el leo ss loos 4 Total Lach Pack horse formerly carried :- s Picks 14 Shovels ---------------- carried :- 288 . 448 Therefore 32 do. Add former Brigade Reserve(l wagon) 80 . 120 -----....- New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels. se---..----.-----
BRiGius Fools Detail se ée c 2. .2 33 en 5 A.I.F. Orders No.17 Para 84. To each Battalion 120 Brigade Headquarters 20 222 16 s 148 13th. Battalion 222 20 148 14th. Bettalion 20 222 8 146 15th. Battalion 30 222 s 148 16 l6th. Battalion --------- .-- ----------- 32 sz 100s ss e?z 4l 16o Total ------------5 ------ Section No.167 Infantry Training 1914. 20 110 40 16 13th. Bettalion 20 110 16 14th. Battalion 20 110 16 15th. Battalion 20 110 16 léth. Battalion . 3 568 1 368 Brigade Reserve not limbered --------.-----------.-------- --- lo c4 s3 ezz ei 16o ss loos Total Each Pack horse formerly carried :- 6 Picks 14 Shovels .------- 448 carried 1- 288 Therefore 32 do. Add former Brigade Reserve(l vagon) 80 - 120 ------------ New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels. -----------------
pRictus yools Detail 3. a A.I.F. Orders No.17 Pera 84. To each Battalion 120 Brigade Headquarters 2o 222 148 20 13th. Bettalion 222 16 14 14th. Bettelion 222 146 15th. Battalion 222 1ee löth. Bettalion -------------- ----------- 32 ez loos ss e?z el leo Total - ------ Seetion No.167 Infantry Training 1914. ao t1o 13th. Fettalion 2 20 110 16 14th. Battalion 20 110 18 15th. Bettalion to zo llo 16 löth. Battalion 3 tos 1 368 Brigade Reserve not limbered -- ------ - lo ce ss ezz el leo es loos 4 Total Lach Pack horse formerly carried :- 9 Picks 16 Shovels .-- carried 3- 288 448 Therefore 32 do. Add former Brigade Reserve(l wagon) 80 . 120 -----------0- New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels.
CHANGES IN PERSONNEL - BATTALION HEAD-QUARTERS. ..----------------- Appointment. 8 Coy. Btn. 4 Coy. Etn. Lieut.-Colonel. Major Adjutant Quarter-Master . Transport Officer Signalling Officer Sergeant-Major Quarter. Master Sergeant" Orderly-Room Sergeant Sergeant-Drummer Sergeant-Cook Pioneer Sergeant Pioneers 10 Transport Sergeant. Signalling Sergeant Signalling Corporal. Signallers 15 Sergeant Shoemaker/ Drivers, ist Line. a! spare Batmen. 6 Stretcher Bearers. 16 Orderly Medical Offieer. 2. - 2 Tetal 46 74 d owbilten kact t t poon mede 15/i a Increase. Decrease. 10 16 33
CONCPNTRATION OF FOURTH INFANTRY BRICADE IN MELBOURNE. c.c.s. Referring to your minute, of 30:9:14 en Defence 112/3/27 to the effeet that I am to be informed when date of concentration of this Brigade at Melbourne is decided upon, I shall be glad if an approximate indication can now be given me. It is particularly important to me that I should be advised, well in advance, of the dates when the several quotas ore leave their home Districts en route for Melbourne. A 16:11:14. -------------------------bovet Commoding Fourth Infantry Bde. Australtan Imperieb Feroe

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November 12th 1914. 
  
[*14th BATTN. A.I.F 
No. 
DATE*] 
  
To:- Brigade Major, 
4th Infantry Brigade. 
  
Lieut. B. Combes) Reported on 
"            H N Boyle) 11-11-14. 
Lieut. W H Hamilton ) reported on 
" A H Carwen-Walker) 12-11-14. 
  
RCourtney Lieut. Col. 
Commdg. 14th Battalion, A.I.F. 
  
[*J.M.*]

 

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November 12th 1914. 
No. 
DATE 
  
To:- Brigade Major, 
4th Infantry Brigade. 
  
Lieut. B. Combes) Reported on 
"            H N Boyle) 11-11-14. 
Lieut. W H Hamilton ) reported on 
"   A H Carwen-Walker) 12-11-14. 
  
RCourtney Lieut. Col. 
Commdg. 14th Battalion, A.I.F.

 

O 
330a.   
VICTORIA BARRACKS, 
MELBOURNE, 13 November 1914. 
  
Dear Major Robertson, 
I have been told that you would not be averse from buying a 
suitable horse as officer's charger, if the officer concerned 
preferred it to another. 
Now, I happen to know a horse which suits me down to the  
ground. For five or six years past, I have been in the habit of 
hiring the same charger from James Garton & Sons, Lonsdale Street,  
Melbourne, and have always found her most satisfactory. 
She is a bay mare, aged, no visible brands, about 15.2 hands 
high, with large white star, streak and snip, strong, well up to 
my weight, very docile but active, and with easy paces. Her name 
is Lurline. 
I have ascertained that the mare is valued at £25, but I  
think that, owing to my long friendship with Mr. Charles Garton, 
he might let me have her for £20. The mare can be inspected any 
day at Garton's Stables by giving them 24 hours notice to have her 
in for inspection. 
I believe she is in every way sound, and if an inspection  
proves this to be the case, I am sure she would suit me down to the 
ground. 
Kindly let me know what you think. 
Yours faithfully, 
Major W. St.L. Robertson, 
Director of Remounts.

 

ALTERATION IN PERSONNEL (COMPANY).

Appointment. 2 Single 
Coy.		 Double 
Coy.		 Increase Decrease
Major or Captain 2 2 - -
Subalterns 4 4 - -
Col.Sgt. 2 (1 C.S.M. 
(1 C.Q.M.S.		 - -
Sergeants 8 8 - -
Drummers 4 4 - -
Corporals 10 10 - -
Pioneers 2 - - 2  ∅
Privates 188 188 - -
Signallers 4 - - 4 ∅
Stretcher Bearers. 4 - - 4 ∅
Drivers 4 3 - 1
Batmen 6 6 - -
Total - 238 237 - 11

∅ With Battalion Head-Quarters. 
227 
4 
908 
74 
98 
18 
1000

 

INFANTRY BATTALION. 
-TRANSPORT- 

Detail. Present. 2 Coy. 
Orgzn.		 In- 
crease.		 De- 
crease.		 Remarks.
Hd.Qrs. Bicycles 9 9 - - ∅ Instead of 
limbered wagons
Carts, Maltese, Medical 1 1 - - ∅∅ Issued if no 
kitchens.
" Water 2 2 - - @ Instead of 2 
limbered wagons.
" S.A.A. - 5∅     § Where are 
Coy. tools to  
be carried?
Wagons, limbered, S.A.A. 5 -      
" " tools. 2 2      
" cooks 1 - ∅∅      
M.G (Wagon, limbered for gun 
& ammunitiion		 2 - @      
(Cart, S.A.A. - 1 @      
Coys. pack ammunition 8 8      
" tools. 8 - §      
Travelling Kitchens. - 4      
 

BRIGADE TOOLS 
  
Detail

6

Wagons G.S

limbered

Axes

felling

Axes Hand

Axes Pick

Crowbars

Hooks Bill

Hooks

Reaping

Shovels G.S

Saw hand

Pack for

tools
A.I.F. Orders No.17 
Para 84. 
To each Battalion		                    
Brigade Headquarters

1

1

1

80

9

-

2

120

-

-
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
Total

9

65

33

672

41

160

82

1008

-

32

 

Section No.167 
Infantry  Training        1914.		                    
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
Brigade Reserve 
not limbered

2

 

1

368

9

 

3

568

 

 
Total

10

64

33

672

41

160

83

1008

4

 

 Each Pack horse formerly carried : -      9 Picks    14 Shovels 
 Therefore 32 do. carried : -                        288   "   448     " 
Add former Brigade Reserve(1 Wagon)    80  "     120    " 
New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels 
 

 

BRIGADE TOOLS 
  
Detail

6

Wagons G.S

limbered

Axes

felling

Axes Hand

Axes Pick

Crowbars

Hooks Bill

Hooks

Reaping

Shovels G.S

Saw hand

Pack for

tools
A.I.F. Orders No.17 
Para 84. 
To each Battalion		                    
Brigade Headquarters

1

1

1

80

9

-

2

120

-

-
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
Total

9

65

33

672

41

160

82

1008

-

32

 

Section No.167 
Infantry  Training        1914.		                    
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
Brigade Reserve 
not limbered

2

 

1

368

9

 

3

568

 

 
Total

10

64

33

672

41

160

83

1008

4

 

 Each Pack horse formerly carried : -    9 Picks     14 Shovels 
 Therefore 32 do. carried : -                      288   "    448      " 
Add former Brigade Reserve(1 Wagon)  80   "      120     " 
New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels 
 

 

BRIGADE TOOLS 
  
Detail

6

Wagons G.S

limbered

Axes

felling

Axes Hand

Axes Pick

Crowbars

Hooks Bill

Hooks

Reaping

Shovels G.S

Saw hand

Pack for

tools
A.I.F. Orders No.17 
Para 84. 
To each Battalion		                    
Brigade Headquarters

1

1

1

80

9

-

2

120

-

-
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

148

8

40

20

222

-

8
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

146

8

40

20

222

-

8
Total

9

65

33

672

41

160

82

1008

-

32

 

Section No.167 
Infantry  Training        1914.		                    
13th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
14th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
15th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
16th. Battalion

2

16

8

76

8

40

20

110

1

 
Brigade Reserve 
not limbered

2

 

1

368

9

 

3

568

 

 
Total

10

64

33

672

41

160

83

1008

4

 

Each Pack horse formerly carried : -      9 Picks      14 Shovels 
Therefore 32 do. carried : -                        288   "     448     " 
Add former Brigade reserve(1 Wagon)   80   "      120     " 
New Total in 2 Brigade Reserve Wagon 368 Picks 568 Shovels 

 

15/11/14 
  
CHANGES IN PERSONNEL - BATTALION HEAD-QUARTERS 
 

   

↓

    
Appointment 8 Coy. Btn. 4 Coy. Btn. Increase Decrease
Lieut.-Colonel.

1

1

-

-
Major

1

1

-

-
Adjutant

1

1

-

-
Quarter-Master /

1

1

-

-
Transport Officer

1

- *

-

1
Signalling Officer

1

- I

-

1
Sergeant-Major /

1

1

-

-
Quarter-Master Sergeant/

1

1

-

-
Orderly-Room Sergeant/

1

1

-

-
Sergeant-Drummer/

1

1

-

-
Sergeant-Cook/

1

1

-

-
Pioneer Sergeant/

1

1

-

-
Pioneers/

0

10

10

-
Transport Sergeant/

1

1

-

-
Signalling Sergeant/

1

1

-

-
Signalling Corporal/

-

1

1

-
Signallers/

8

15

7

-
Sergeant Shoemaker/

-

1

1

-
Drivers 1st Line.

11

9

-

2
 "  spare

3

2

-

1
Batmen.

8

6

-

2
Stretcher Bearers

-

16

16

-
Orderly/ Medical Officer.

2

2

-

-
 

—

—

—

—
Total -

46

74

35

7

 * a subaltern to act. 
I no provision made. 

 

CONCENTRATION OF FOURTH INFANTRY BRIGADE IN MELBOURNE 
  
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C.G.S. 
  
Referring to your minute of 30:9:14 on 
Defence 112/3/27 to the effect that I am to be 
informed when date of concentration of this Brigade 
at Melbourne is decided upon, I shall be glad if an 
approximate indication can now be given me. It is 
particularly important to me that I should be advised, 
well in advance, of the dates when the several quotas 
∧are to leave their home Districts en route for Melbourne. 
  
16:11:14 
..... Colonel 
Commanding Fourth Infantry Bde. 
Australian Imperial Force 
  
CGS 

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