Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/8/1 - May - June 1915 - Part 15

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leter this day or I next As a matter of fact 6 N3s were defailed to rush from trunch, abt 6ydo, t sandbegs, pust in the serdbags wh I.T.s hadbuilt arowncrattrs, know in keir own I saw pays wout pux oi Sandbags, & comeback. Thery gandow uettavrow I san bags & found a 70 of over, & a wooden Structurs w 6 toopholes - not one. They stuffed their bags into 1 Coopholes & returned before 1 a. 9. s0t. going. (Possibly this ws on Monday nipt. I dong think es A young office - Macwillian D a Duntroon boy. 0 bog w the Otago MR. as killed woa ad No3 outpost. He ws in the 9t AL4, a gplendis chap, always cheerful. 131 were a trikle lea - not heavy. I noticed that may Carter seemed very much struck by the size of the casuallies of the 13th but I doubt if they were realy henry. The charge made by our chaps (plane by most observers at 80c) over the crest of our own trenches is spoken of os everione as fine. They stood outrice the trench taken by the r shett down or Counbet all the men in it & then fumged down into it. Only one tark ws wounded tt ws (effect or bon bo (our bombo are like Gog of seem to make a pyptfut won) Sanda May St Cot from p127. we tt o ruy to craters oppoite eneing obdy. Monday, May 31- The N. Gerlanders 6s0 their trench on he left lastnyes, I believe Col. Tkene ws just on 1 way a reinforcuent when they wildren fuBirdod ws asked for lase to withdraw. Terecos no vetal objectu, So he let them with draw if thy liket but he sront o o it. N NULRIT No 1P8s Gofe 50 fur left
H The fiht on Sunday Eyed. 132 The N.G. people were being attacked in this trunck when I as watching it yeaty. Th seemed prety bot corner. Te Bullels were flieking clist clouds from the parse every second of two. The enennys shell ws not bursting over 1 trenche but behind it in Pornb. Diddinly a blue flas appeared a waved from 1truch, Havs not yet got in touch with read the man begide me. by one squadion, strong enough to reach Capt. Chambers.. Bullets flished near the pay. A fequre suddeely appeared in the srrib on 1 Edgeof hill begond I truch. It ran along full height, w its rifle - adropped into Cornb again. We bought he must be saysing that signalle but beyond here is a strip of stoughed land runnen between hillfoot sea- 1other side of a red copy fiet. I ae not sare at first tt it ws not a trench it wo so narrow; but it proved t be an cofinishe ploughly. The only Civilian turl we have seen (if he were a avilian) had started plonley here a week of t ago. He had one white ox & one red, &he did not seem to tl too mady hard work. He continually slopped & meased around his plough. A fewchots wanred him of & I hadn't bean sing seen. thenen I again wentup the strength of monst gully & sot wh I miand jesty. feghting at Aurun
13. 13. A On Sunday night the Tarks Somehow crept or sapped out into two potholes caused by explosions of our coustermines & put up bomb proof shelters there W Sanka -Kibig Turkish sawbays wh are just abo I times a by as ours. They build their trench paropets of thei & amnuniti box2s. These too formerable crectis were seen opp. our truchis on Mondey moming at day byght & it as decided the went be denolictd. Two parties of the 1L. H were therefore ordered to go out & take the trenches, to be followed by two clypng parties if the first lot tstablishd thenselves. heartillery as to support tm Col. Pope's slan was. Two parties of Eght Horse were to jo or 110 t assuult each of 30 md &a sergt- the one to assault the right crates ws under 1t Ridd;] tt to assault 1 left craty as under Ct Lt. Colpitts. It they succeed apart of 15ihend sergeant ws tfollow. Each man of assaull aty came one pesenssion a vomb. Ad dippi were to be from Canterbur parties
134 battation. Max Row & Capt. Houlher to command treaches from wh they asssulted. All support Tfere truches to be lined as thickly as possible & other troops to be in communicate meuches to bayouets fived. Supportyg fire, boubs etc pam every possible pount. Curtneys & Popes Will wd support (so did 1st. Bn. & artilery a cau at pm. in afternoon, Reports to end o telephonetive– (Order issuer at 11.30 an to all officers of Guinns Post). Artilery, made or fine practich for Dr - only 3 or & shells were burst short. 1p.m. te too parties charsed over, one o our stells had blown a terk macking jun up just as we started to charge - it blew the Sandbags, ap first; then blest 152 funr to bits (00I gu told) head got it we work opp him. It ws fall of Tarks. They stood outside knew tombo, baxonetil tht down 45 most of whom pled. took one presoner- gave him agarettes & biscit. He as so grateful that when To came back the prisoner grabbed the riple of man next him & shot the intrnder dead. Kedd came back a all his men, very dazed (but without the prisoner (they say they tried to make him understand but cont, &y had to come back fatnedl abt 5. Sopin. Fartillery opened & the had bn under showers of bosubs & were many of them deafened. Thy didn't seem to have done very wack Colpitts went to the left Twomen wery
13 killed. As abt 200 amessage came from him in a cartridge case. I have 7 menleft. No sandby want support but think it 15 only sacrificing more men to send supports Well try to digin & hold on leaving it to goe to decide re supports, Good Luck. Ten casnatties Col. Pope replied: Am sending ten men, Do as much damage as you can Pletire when you can do no more. That we it 21151 at 3.15-6 note came. Please tunnel through as fer as possitle wd rush back but don't like the idea of abandoning my wounded suggest you have plenty of support to give to our counterattack wh the Eneay appear to be preparing. Have done all damage possible. this counteattack came off almost at once but 2o tirk who sumped oul of truch got thro. sm A tunnet was made, but abt. 10.30s before it we completed, 6 men relieved the post going over the parapet. The tunnel ws frueshed abt 11.20 P.m. Kidds men whoy oback all I.30w Cwere all wounded, + allvery rattledn Colpitts someof them came over te paraget before tunnel finished. The 6men who were put in are still in the post. Abtmednight amorder arrion
(36 to demolich or occupy thi works. Col. Copes. I went up with kidd (show the spot- the by work. But it don't there. The Turps had Taken I sandbago down & there was no truch. The Ts threw SSec. bombs (they have I sec. o 2 sec.) Onr men fielded them all exc. abt 3 out of abt 40 & threw them back, just as if my were cricket balls I got particulars from Col. Chaurel of the attack by L.. under Maj. Graham on Turhiss trench opp quinns on 1 night of may 14-15 (Fiday-Saty). The attack as made very early on the Saty morning. I do not think t any o1 officers concerned had reconmortred the pound - as least I an told they hadnt. The story is as folls.- One squadron of t hight Horse as ordered by Gen. Godley to make a sortie from Quinns Poston His particular night C.Squadron of No 2nd L. H. (Queensland MtL. Ing. was chosen - andw May. D.M. R Graham - under direct of. 4. Col. T.H. Cannan commanding quinns Post. The hour as to be decided on by Maj. paham. The object as the filling in of a communicate truch, Half the squadson wo to rust t everys trenches, using the bagonet only. The other Squadoon ws to take picks & showeld (Trey were to fill in (common trench, demolish 1 parspet of truch, + be back before daylight. Courtney's & Popes kill were to cover him & they wobe supported by garrison of quispost wh however us not to leave that post. May praham Chose 1.45 as the hour. The fire to met them as they sumped over parspit
ws so heavy & few reached 1 trench. The Turks left trech & enfilated then from both sides – Nearly allpparty wo killed or wounded. Te cleping parties helped ( woundes back ont or two tarks were bayoneted & some attempt wo made to demotest treath But fire from Machine puns, riftes. bombs ws too heavy. By 3 it ws all over - 1 party such as wo left had ne back rm w its wounded. Two wounded sight hersemen were observed by in outside turkeck trench and 1 queste other relefe as considere. But before it wo decided on I tarks opend fire on this two den + killed them both. Pamphlets were fiveno party to hand. out to Parks. The party went forwd from No. S section. The Right Parly. 30 men ander Capt Pirtbeck Right Dychy Party 15" Maj praham. Left assaulty Party 30.5 Ogiloy Degps 4. Potto. Five stretchest beavers) some messugers eh Of the Right Party. Of 15 men who rashe out to right oI commcinicate trench 2 reachedth Farkish trenches. As there was nothing they cd do thy were ordered to stat into Commanicate trench. They crawled along commnn truch, draysed 1 wounded back into their own tranck under a heavy fore. Te stretthen bearers rushed out alogt to tarkesh French & for the wounded The diging partys was not to start till assaulty parties were establishet in ttrench be. Synal never or given. But- Maj Graham when he saw attenges men falling ao fast jumped
138 on trench & rukes forward. He helped to brin a wounded - but in dong to we mortally wounded H Potts reported attede to a heavy fire started imaned thy tef 1 trench. He ven were keeping low The digny party c Lardly be preserted from rushing forwelto assist. A measuger came back to say to D Ogeloy had gri 1 order to reture, & try o b in I wounded. He whole affair wo over in 2omnates The ttretched bearers & messengers went ford to help wounded. Those in wench saw heads wer comeng back aboyg communicate bench exposed to Owr side- Orders were gron not to fire as it ws not clear wheter tey were Tarks or Australians. Tarant out to be to Ofiloy & 2 men Six men in the left assaultiy part got out without camalties paham helped 4 men before bein bouded. I hear that Col. White & Col. M. Nichol have Each gob the D.S.B. trday aset. Abler venting quians todan I went ap to the Kt Bn to fer particular! of a very baoraction which casly & the Seneral happened to see durry yesterdays attach. machine Theguns of the Bt Bn had to cover the attack. One gan seems to have been ordered to cover the sicle - they are nervous aft quians & dowal they an to cover it – but the instructu had not bn carrie not. The general when he vent up foud that the gua emplocemet, wd not prepared - The attack as almost due to
139 start. Bags hadt be turredly shore into place - the Emplacement (at is on the in sibe of to valley ws not a good one & rather obvious - they say also it wt given away by the L.H. bringiy ar m. G. wift an ison screen there & not servening the screen) and the gan w only jast shoved into pocete before the fight sterted. The gais crew consinted of Coopl Bint, PET. Arnott (N1) Pte R. Cumming & others. Cammin starled feriy but as sonott, ar Nlhe as presently pat on. They knew where one O Turprsh M. 9s was & Bent presently put him on to another. The moment onr assanltig party we over top he stantd to fire on 1.m.g. wh he cd see. He blew /whole crew out of it Rend put him outs o other jun- showed it to him. The 75 got a new erew I started in at him again. Precently their mss - you can't say at - got out bil. It felt all round Iloophole for him down one sids – across1 bottom- up (side again - across 1top repary baps to pieces & finaly toppli them over off parcpet. For 2 minutes to To gunner mast have kept his thib pressed on (tryper. They muest have be feeling for him to ininated before they got him. He had never let ao affecttuo in ligttst degree. He had his whole chest & head exposed when they pt him - reaching over so they say to put someting eight to his gan sive billets entered his Low, blus all 1 teet on one side away &
140 almost cut his face in half - but didnt kill him. Te sharp anotir nember ol juns cres also we lit. The craw a awaged to get the jun safely down & so saved it. Arrot as carried round to 1Dr. As he lay there genl Walker went up to him. My lad, that was a fine piece of work hld. I intend to recovnend you for th D.C.M.. The younster - he is a Balmain boy, only 20, a trance of Ne 29t Betation, pulled himself togeter & saluted fainth - as best he cd. cumming us also a traince of 29K. The crewas under Corpl. Bint June 15t. Tuesday I saw General Birdwood last night. He was in his dug out reading the paper afar duine, with his spectacles on his forchead. He wanted to know if any of my articles had get appears. We st yarnay about Clifton & about Kings here. He told me that the any had orginally thought they could get Roo vitout assistance - or ellse with the were assistance of a landing parties. Kitchener accordingly sent him up to get an opinion. He came up in the Twifteurs Carden, who was admral te command tem, was evidently a man who had not reatly the independence to oppose the impetuocity of Cinston Churchill, & when Churchill woole to him in his impltuous optiniistic fashion head be the man to chaie in. Boidwood saw that the fleet had blown the forts at the entiance to plects but had not even begun on the Warrows - The howitzgers were firing on the ships - & they had no idea where they were, there were not only mines but, they sag. fwvo lines of toopeds tabes. The rocks in ther

Either this day or / next:
As a matter of fact 6 N.Z.s were detailed to rush
from / trench, abt 6 yds, w sandbags, push in the sandbags
wh the T.s had built around the craters, throw in their own
sandbags & come back. They ran over ∧ found sandbags wdnt push pulled down
/ sandbags & found a roof over, & a wooden structure w 6
loopholes - not one. They stuffed their bags into / loopholes & 
returned before / m.g. got going. (Possibly this ws on
Monday night - I dont think so).
A young officer - MacWilliams Lt - a Duntroon boy -
boy in who ws w the Otago MR. ws killed today at No 3 outpost. He
ws in the 9th A.L.H., a splendid chap, always cheerful. 
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were a trifle less - not heavy. I noticed that Maj.
Carter seemed very much xx struck by the size of the
casualties of the 13th but I doubt if they were
really heavy. 
The charge made by our chaps (placed
by most observers at 8 o'c) over the crest of
our own trenches is spoken of by everyone as
fine. They stood outside the trench taken by the Ts &
shot down or bombed all the men in it & then
jumped down into it. Only one Turk ws wounded
- tt ws / effect o / bombs (our bombs are like
jam tins & seem to make a frightful wound).
Sunday May 30th (cont from see p.127.)
We had to rush the craters opposite Quinns today.
Monday May 31. The N. Zealanders lost
their trench on the left last night. I believe Col.
Skene ws just on / way w reinforcements when
they withdrew. Gen Birdwood ws asked for leave to
withdraw. There ws no vital objectn, so he
let them withdraw if they liked but he didnt like it.
Diagram - see original document

 

The Ploughman
The fight on
Sunday
(yesty)
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The N.Z. people were being attacked in this trench
when I ws watching it yesty. They It seemed a pretty hot
corner. The Bullets were flicking dust clouds from the parapet
every second or two. The enemys shell ws not bursting
over / trenche but behind it in / scrub. Suddenly
a blue flag appeared & waved from / trench: "...Have not
yet got in touch with....." read the man beside
me. "... by one squadron strong enough to reach
Capt. Chambers..." Bullets flicked near the flag.
A figure suddenly appeared in the scrub on / edge o /
hill beyond / trench. It ran along full height, w its
rifle - & dropped into / scrub again. We thought
he must be sniping that signaller.
Out beyond there is a strip of
ploughed land running between / hillfoot &
/ sea - / other side of a red poppy field. I
ws not sure at first tt it ws not a trench
- it ws so narrow; but it proved to be an
unfinished ploughing. The only civilian Turk
we have seen (if he was a civilian) had started
ploughing there a week or so ago. He had one
white ox & one red, & he did not seem to do
too much hard work. He continually stopped
& messed around his plough. A few shots
warned him off & I he hasn't been since seen.

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The impression I again went up
Monash Gully & got the strength o /
fighting at Quinns wh I missed yesty. 

 

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Diagram - see original document
On Sunday night the Turks somehow crept
or sapped out into two potholes caused by
explosions of our mines countermines,
& put up bomb proof shelters there w sandbags
- the big Turkish sandbags wh are just abt
3 times as big as ours. They build their
trench parapets of these & ammunitn
boxes. These two formidable erectns
were seen opp. our trenches on
Monday morning at daylight & it
ws decided they must be demolished.
Two parties of the 10th L.H. were
therefore ordered to go out & take the
trenches, to be followed by two digging
parties if the first lot established
themselves. The artillery ws to support them.
Col. Pope's plan was:
Two parties of ∧10th Light Horse were to go out
to assault - each of 30 men ∧of 10th & a Sergt -
the one to assault the right crater ws
under Lt Kidd; tt to assault / left
crater ws under Capt Lt. Colpitts. If
they succeeded, a party of 15 men and ∧Sergt
Sergeant ws to follow. Each man of assaulting -
party carried one ∧percussion bomb. The digging
parties were to be from / Canterbury

 

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battalion. Maj Row, & Capt Houlker to command
trenches from wh they assaulted. All other support
& fire trenches to be lined as thickly as possible
& other troops to be in communicatg trenches w
bayonets fixed. Supporting fire, bombs etc from
every possible point. Courtneys & Popes Hill
wd support (so did 1st Bn. & artillery). [[shorthand]]
issue at 1 p.m. in afternoon. Reports to ∧H.Q. at end of
telephone line - (order issued at 11.30 am to all officers
of Quinns Post).
Artillery made v fine practice for
¼ hr - only 3 or 4 shells were burst short.
At 1. p.m. the two parties charged over. One of our
shells had blown a Turk machine gun up just as we started to charge - it
blew the sandbags up first; then blew the gun to bits (so I am told).
Kidd got into the work opp. him. It ws
full of Turks. They stood outside threw bombs,
bayoneted shot down T.s most of whom fled.
Took one prisoner - gave him cigarettes & 
biscuit. When He ws so grateful that when
T.s came back the prisoner grabbed the rifle of
man next to him & shot the intruder dead. 
Kidd came back w all his men, very
dazed (but without the prisoner - (they say
they tried to make him understand but
cdn't, & they had to come back hurriedly)
abt 5.30 p.m. T. artillery opened & they
had bn under showers of bombs & were
many of them deafened. They didnt seem to have
done very much.
Colpitts went to the left. Two men were
[*out of 22 in Kidds party
20 were wounded.*] 

 

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killed. At abt 2 o'c a message came from him
in a cartridge case: I have 7 men left. No sandbags
want support but think it is only sacrificing
more men to send supports. while Will try to 
dig in & hold on leaving it to you to decide
re supports, Good Luck. Ten casualties.
Col. Pope replied: Am sending ten men.
Do as much damage as you can. Retire
when you can do no more.
That ws a 2.15 at 3.15 a
note came: Please tunnel through as far as possible.
Wd rush back but dont like the idea of
abandoning my wounded Suggest you have
plenty of support to give to our a? counterattack
wh the enemy appear to be preparing. Have
done all damage possible."
This counterattack came off almost at
once but no Turk who jumped out of trench got thro'.
A tunnel was made, but abt. 10.30 p.m, before it
ws completed, 6 men relieved the post, going over
the parapet. The tunnel ws finished abt 11.20
p.m.
Kidd's men who got back abt 5.30 or 6 were
all wounded, & all very rattled. xxxx 
Colpitts some of them came over the
parapet before tunnel finished. The. 6 men
who were put in are still in the post.
Abt midnight an order arrived

 

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to demolish or occupy this works. Col. Pope sd
"I went up with Kidd to show him me the spot - 
the big work. But it wsn't there. The Turks had
taken / sandbags down & there was no trench. 
The T.s threw 5 sec. bombs (they 
have 5 sec. & 2 sec.) Our men fielded them
- all exc. abt 3 out of abt 40 & threw them
back, just as if they were cricket balls
I got particulars from Col. Chauvel of the attack by ∧2nd L.H.
under Maj. Graham on a Turkish trench opp. Quinns
on / night of May 14-15 (Friday-Saty). The attack ws made
very early on the Saty morning. I do not think tt any o /
officers concerned had reconnoitred the ground - at least I
am told they hadnt. The story is as folls:-
One squadron of xx Light Horse ws ordered by
Gen. Godley to make a sortie from Quinns Post on 
this particular night.
C. Squadron of the 2nd L.H. (Queensland Mtd. Inf)
was chosen - under Maj. D.M.P. Graham - under
directn of Lt. Col. J.H. Cannan commanding Quinns
Post. The hour ws to be decided on by Maj. Graham.
The object ws the filling in of a communicatn trench.
Half the squadron ws to rush / enemy's trenches,
using the bayonet only. The other ½ squadron ws to
take picks & shovels. They were to fill in / commn
trench, demolish / parapet o / trench, & be back
before daylight. Courtney's & Popes Hill were to 
cover them & they wd be supported by garrison of
Quinns Post wh however ws not to leave the post.
Maj. Graham chose 1.45 as the hour.
The fire tt met them as they jumped over / parapet

 

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ws so heavy tt few reached / trench. The Turks left /
trench & enfiladed them from both sides - Nearly all / party
ws killed or wounded. The digging parties helped / wounded back.
One or two Turks were bayoneted & some attempt ws made
to demolish / trench. But / fire from machine guns, rifles,
bombs ws too heavy.
By 3 it ws all over - / party, such as ws left,
had come back from its attempt w its wounded. Two
wounded Light Horsemen were observed lying outside /
Turkish trench and / questn o their rescue ws considered.
But before it ws decided on / Turks opened fire on
the two men & killed them both.
Pamphlets were given to / party to hand
out to / Turks. The party went forwd from No 3 section.
The Right Party          30 men under Capt Birkbeck
Right Digging Party  15     "         "        Maj. Graham.
Left Assaulting Party 30    "         "        Lt Ogilvy
   "    Digging         "       "                          Lt Potts
Five stretcher bearers, some messengers 
etc.
Of the Right Party: Of 15 men who rushed out to /
right o / communicatn trench 2 reached the
Turkish trenches. As there was nothing they
cd do they were ordered to start get into /
Communicatn trench. They crawled along /
Commn. trench, dragged / wounded back into
their own trench under a heavy fire. The stretcher
bearers rushed out almost to the Turkish
trench & got the wounded.
The digging party's were not to start till assaulting
parties were established in / trench, but wh & signal given.
Signal never ws given. But Maj. Graham
when he saw attempt men falling so fast jumped

 

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on trench & rushed forward. He helped to bring
in / wounded - but in doing so ws mortally wounded
Lt Potts reported aftwds tt a heavy fire started
immed. they left / trench. The men were keeping low
The digging party cd hardly be prevented from rushing
forwd to assist. A messenger came back to say tt
Lt Ogilvy had given / order to retire & try & bring in
/ wounded. The whole affair ws over in 20 minutes.
The stretcher bearers & messengers went forwd
to help / wounded. Those in trench saw heads
coming back along communicatn trench - ∧they were exposed to
our side - Orders were given not to fire as it ws
not clear whether they were Turks or Australians.
Turned out to be Lt Ogilvy & 2 men.
Six men in the left assaulting party got out
without casualties Graham helped 4 men before
being wounded.
I hear that Col. White & Col. M'Nichol have
each got the D.S.O.
Tuesday May June 1st After visiting Quinns today
I went up to the 1st Bn to get particulars
of a very brave action which Casey & the General
happened to see during yesterdays attack.
The ∧machine guns of the 1st Bn had to cover the attack.
One gun seems to have been ordered to cover this
side - they are nervous abt Quinns & doing all
they can to cover it - but the instructn had
not bn carried out. The General when he went
up found that the gun emplacement ws not
prepared. The attack ws almost due to 

 

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start. Bags had to be hurriedly shoved into place - the 
emplacement (wh is on the in side of the valley - ws not a
good one & rather obvious - they say also it ws given away
by the L.H. bringing an m.g. with an iron screen there
& not screening the screen) and the gun ws only just
shoved into positn before the covering fight started.
The guns crew consisted of Corpl. Bint, Pte T.
Arnott (No 1) Pte R. Cumming & others. Cumming
started firing but as Arnott ws No 1 he ws presently
put on.
They knew where one o / Turkish m.gs was 
& Bint presently put him on to another. The moment
our assaulting party went over / top he started to 
fire - on / m.g. wh he cd see. He blew / whole
crew out of it. Bint put him onto / other gun - 
showed it to him. The T.s got a new crew & started
in at him again. Presently ∧one of their m.gs - you
cant say wh - got onto him. It felt all round
/ loophole for him - down one side - across /
bottom - up / side again - across / top ripping the
bags to pieces & finally toppling them over off /
parapet. For 2 minutes tt T. gunner must
have kept his thumb pressed on / trigger. 
They must have bn feeling for him 5
minutes before they got him. He had never let
it affect him in / slightest degree. He had
his whole chest & head exposed when they got
him - reaching over so they say to put something
right w his gun. Five bullets entered his
jaw, blew all the teeth on one side away & 

 

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almost cut his face in half - but didnt
kill him. Pte Sharp another member o / guns
crew also ws hit. The crew managed to get
the gun safely down & so saved it.
Arnott ws carried round to / Dr. As he
lay there Gen. Walker went up to him. "My
lad, that was a fine piece of work," he sd - "I
intend to recommend you for the D.C.M." The
youngster - he is a Balmain boy, only 20,
a trainee of the 29th Battalion, pulled himself
together & saluted faintly - as best he cd.
Cumming ws also a trainee o / 29th.
The crew ws under Corpl. Bint.
Tuesday June 1st.
I saw General Birdwood last night - 
He was in his dug out reading the paper after dinner
with his spectacles on his forehead. He wanted to know
if any of my articles had yet appeared. We got yarning
about Clifton & about things here. He told me that the 
Navy had originally thought they could get thro' without
assistance - or else with the mere assistance of x 
landing parties. Kitchener accordingly sent him
up to get an opinion. He came up in the Swiftsure. 
Carden, who was Admiral in command then,
was evidently a man who had not really the
independence to oppose the impetuosity of
Winston Churchill, & when Churchill wrote to
him in his impetuous optimistic fashion he wd
be the man to chime in. Birdwood saw that the fleet
had blown the forts at the entrance to pieces but
had not even begun on the Narrows - The howitzers
were firing on the ships - & they had no idea where
they were; there were not only mines but, they
say five lines of torpedo tubes. The rocks in there 

 

















 

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