Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/75/1 - March - April 1917 - Part 1

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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of C E W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR160617517 Title: Diary, March - April 1917 includes references to the 17th, 12th and 48th Battalions, the Ist and 3rd infantry Brigades, lt C Pope VC, Lagnicourt, Bullecourt and Boursies. AWMISS-SDRLCOGI7SH
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t Your pocts of 26Bn. ere captures yest. hast seen knowing boarbs. 11 March 27 Yesterday. afternoon on gettery back to Vaule from the front line at hagnicourt someone Wellington, I think. attrigade N.O told ilchrest & myself that the depont in which we had been living at Bapanine had been brown up by a delayed mine - clockwork, or some arrangement of acid working through a plate before it set the frize gony There were two men working there at the time
was out but 2 o the signallarge & a runner - & they are still in there, in the signal office. The thing went off about noon yesterday. The prisoners whom we had seen apat Voulx had just come down & the esort had sent down for the stap Captain to see them. Staffe Warreker the boub offece ws there; t he had been dariy (Fightery was Gy apal aiht down getting a bit of rest when te prisoners arrived. He decide to Toaprace them As he stepped from 1 mont
3 The British 7 t Drow was to have attacked Laugatle + I believe Croisille t same day - but atthe last woment reports the could not, as the were was ancut. I believe the geveral of the 7th Divn was removet from his job on this account. 2 3 Ap. S. I men who exe. from feu as camtle tine helt. Weater N.2 5 /0 Bn Strayhten Hernces A9 Bn. to r Bde- 13 of digont I place blew up - not loadly but enough to break in Entrances. The German pnsoners all turned & can yough's congralatate on tries Hermres 2? Bours 14 Hermies Denicourt & be 13 e bo ce. at 24 Ansa t ct 84
I saw today 2 of 3 Ap. 9 English Soldiers who were brought to Corps HDrs Afterwin in to 48 Bn lines They had be prisoners of fermans. Te Buthr ws keen on my seem in their bood them as they show now, fermans treet our prisoners I found them lycng down oneman covered with bock. the other so their & pale to he tookn like dyng. He seemed to have dysentery & was recheng when I got to him. He (Parsey) had weighed B3 stone before he ws captured - he 1s abt t stone. now. This is due entirely to I way they were o roads wont ted& they were workin be she yermans whomee see e. roads here are wellfed, well clothed. These mere lay on shava in a windy but - had no overcosts unless the co beg them off Freach Curtians, were given one blanket when Bsnow came; were butted w a rifle if they dedn't getap to time or didn't wolk, hard enough - not so much by I soldien (line as byI permanent base men. In last stage, at Sancy Courties a men became unconscious + had to be -carried back from work- They were not sen Coe thesmen upre of 151t Service Bn. Dorset negt Alor Lical. Parsey. Capte on Jan 11 at Beavent Hanel Private Downes Same Bn Dcoy capld saws tie L/al Piggott D loy Same Bn. There were abt 100 in the party - & yo becaue so ill of they had to be taken away. Tese three Gob away 8.30 German tie night of Ap. 7 &arrd in Husto tune 2.G.L. Sp. Dr jost as our rebieve they Men were wereconfins in a brick kiln at sturce constrees - with a brokin down corner. bt guard repuved at Shi. they hopped over, abt end we poi were were not heldatal out
465 They made for the fan flashes then for the nearest flare. Atlast they tame to a trench. It as uncn tonly half duy. There were posts for wire. They sol down into nokit trench the pex others -very deep- Cookyou When they saew leee a ferm. Come round straveise been. unarmed - ky thought he belonger to a workin party. The maned have but them - but he ran away calling to others. Our I made a wide circle & got back to sancpint & got thro without seevy avyone.. There had been posts for wire war, but no were, ter in portof 1St trech but here there ws were. They crawled our all wire exc in the port live where it ws so think it three of them walked over it. They came across 3 sets of trenches as above- only 2 (blackline) occupied Cheyedsee Ferman heads as if on juar imo In the Front time was 333138 rt sn wen a also a Senter group at come our of Bullecourt? Village wh fired at them & kiew 2 pare Capparenth on fire step of pont (The end & sid aves of the terman last defence were the Hares made them sure it at front lime. One man held I Ceggott wshit in arm by a shat he ty te second flare they saw our men ratievn stoilght td wereours by the hars Lambray first - camped in citadel in room then to Ervillers-work The weather we s. bad & men becaue weak & couldnt go on col work Iaey had bsip back Then to Sancy Lastry - campes in abaon- Waken on adel Lastly to Tancy Courtacy
469 Two men there were carried anconssions from work. start work at come back at 12 50 on at 2 knock of at 4.30. No205 weal exc. coffee at. last place the worked pom 7 to 3. Deary Could near 4 of way thro E Book this
10 Ap. 9t New arriow this morn of the attack opporte Arose. Our troops gained first the ble time - Then the brown lens (the Jerman Zodhens ranning into the Cojenb Switch 0000 prisoners, ind whole Bn; goguno Our attack on sallean Reencourt (latter awfully diffecit with possible 3rd objve in Hende- -court, wh ws to have be made tomorrow by 12 x4 Bdes - & was put off for 8 days from whas white old army commdr yeste - 1 now on again in anotther form. As they cant cut wire, 5th arm hassupplied the Corps with all its lanks (12) wh will go through the were. White went up & saw the Hindmby were himself from near Longatle. Hough as keen on attack but had diresd to its postponan when news tas attacr came Reports recd have raind quastion APA. Quister a whether Gs have wacuated Bullicourt im Patrols report fermans 11.36 holding V2813 & fired I at pou Vrd A60.20. Rpm. News t 1 Cavalry Corps orde which had be se thro late in aftrnoon at Amas hadbn withdrawn. Attack at dawn. at ram. I wentup to see the attack on the Hindby here. with tanks - It did not come tanks ad behevt 4Abr 5 a niffin at Horeuil -Gen. Brand recd ordi for af to with draw - Tenmins fater two eeter ffce wentag Yen. Gough sd to Corps; if we get on on the Northerin part of attack it is up to you todo some thing. What are you ping todo white sd well, unless theres some worthy object to be sained we can't put a division up to face very heavy tosoes in post of were But if he likes to send tanks thro were first our infy will follow after. The schene decided on ws toour
12 infy patrolo stt be sent foowd to see of time held - & if not held shd be pashed into it & baf. Shd follow Thro to Hendecourt & Cagnicourt. If it were is were right held, & the Elsewhere, ten the attack as to be made with 12 tanks Ias out all day today gelting details of a tock on Hermies from 7SFF + Boursees 3rd Bdes. These were attackes at dawn The Srd Bde went Gesty for poursies.

AWM38

Official History,1914-18 War : records of C E W Bean,

Official Historian.

 

 Diaries and Notebooks

 

Item number: 3DRL606/75/1

 

Title: Diary, march - April 1917

Includes references to the 11th, 12th and 48th

Battalions, the 1st and 3rd Infantry Brigades, Lt

C Pope VC, Lagnicourt, Bullecourt and Boursies.

 

 

 

Diary 75

19 [[?]]27

Original             DIARY NO. 75.

AWM38              30RL 606 ITEM 75 [1]

DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN

CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914 - 1918

The use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms

of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the

following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every

reader and writer who may use them.

These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be

true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what

was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;

also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not

follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when

discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.

These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what

their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch

for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he

did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had

seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand

evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed

upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that

those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All

second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.

16 Sept., 1946.                                       C. E. W. BEAN.

AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL

ACCESS STATUS

OPEN

 

 

 

Two of our posts of 26 Bn.

were captured yesty.

Last seen throwing bombs.

 

1                                          1

March 27.

Yesterday afternoon

 on getting back to Vaulx'

from the front line at

Lagnicourt xx someone 

- Wellington, I think -

at 7t Brigade H.Qs told

Gilchrist & myself that

the dugout in which we

had been living at

Bapaume had been

blown up by a delayed

mine - clockwork, or

some arrangement of acid

working through a plate

before it set the fuze going.

There were two men

working there at the time -

 

 

 

1                                             2

xxxx the signall[[?]]

& a runner - & they are

still in there, in the signal

office. The thing went off about

noon yesterday. The prisoners

whom we had  seen

up at Vaulx had just

come down & the escort

had sent down for the staff

Captain to see them. Staff Capt.

was out but Warreker the bomb officer

ws there; & he had been

up all night during t fighting & was lying

down getting a bit of

rest when the prisoners

arrived. He decided

to go up & see them.

As he stepped from t mouth

 

 

 

3

The British 7th Divn was

to have attacked Langatte

& I believe Croisille the

same day - but at the last moment reported they

could not, as the wire

was uncut. I believe

the General of the 7th

Divn was removed from 

his job on this account.

 

Ap.8. 3 men who esc. from Germs.

Is [[?]] line held

Weather [symbols]

[symbols]

{10 Bn straightening

{12

Hermies

49 Bn to [[?]]

15 Bde not up.

 

1                                             4

o t dugout t place

blew up - not loudly but 

enough to break in t

entrances. The German

prisoners all turned

& ran.

Gou[[?]] congratulates on Hermies.

Hermies: 

[Lines of symbols / shorthand]

 

 

5

Ap.9. I saw today 2 of 3

English soldiers who were

brought to Corps H.Qrs after coming

in to 48 Bn lines. They had bn

prisoners of t Germans. They

Butler ws keen on my seeing

them as they show in their bodies how t Germans

treat our prisoners.

I found them lying down 

- one man covered with boils,

the other so thin & pale tt he looked

like dying. He seemed to have

dysentery & was reching when

I got to him. He (Parsey) had

weighed 13 1/2 stone before he ws

captured - he is abt 10 stone

now. This is due entirely to t

way they were fed & worked.

They were working on roads behind t line.

The Germans whom we see on 

roads here are well fed, well

clothed. These men lay on shavays;

in a windy hut - had no overcoats

unless they cd beg them off French

civilians; were given one blanket when

t snow came; were butted w a rifle if

they didn't get up to time or didnt work

 

1                                                 6

hard enough - not so much by t soldiers

from t line as by t permanent base

men. In t last stage, at Saucy Courtier

2 men became unconscious & had to be

carried back from work - they were not sent to hosp.

Tues 3 men were of the 

Dorset Regt 5th Service Bn.

L/Cpl. Parsey - A Coy.

Captd on Jan 11 at

Beamont Hamel.

      _________

Private Downes same Bn D Coy

captd same time.

     _________

L/Cpl Piggott D Coy same Bn.

    __________

There were abt 100 in the party - & 40 became

so ill tt they had to be taken away - These

three got away 8.30 (German time)

night of Ap. 7 & arrd

in Aust. lines 2.45

Ap. 8 - just as our

men were relieving. They

were confined in a brick kiln at Sourci

Courtres - with a broken down corner. who

the guard relieved at 6 pm. They hopped over

[[?]] 2nd line from here were

not held at all - only 

 

 

7

They made for the [[?]] flashes

& then for the nearest flare.

At last they came to a trench - It ws [[?cen?]] tried

& only half dug. There were posts for wire

They got down into      3 [ 3 parallel lines] - no kit        

the next trench                                                  others

xx - very deep -                                                    look you

when they saw                                                 - helmets seen.

a Germ. come                2 = 

toward t tra[[?]]

unarmed - they              3  [ 3 parallel lines]

thought he belonged                  ↓

to a working party.

The man cd have hit them - but he

ran away calling to others. Our

3 made a wide circle & got thro without

seeing anyone. There had been

posts for wire xxx but no

wire, shell in front o t 1st trench 

- but here thee ws wire. They

crawled over all wire exc. in

the front line where it ws so thick

tt t three of them walked over it.

They came across 3 sets of trenches

as above - only 2 (black line) occupied

(they cd see German heads as if on guard)

& men movin In the front line was

 

1                                            8

people seen were a

also a Sentry group at corner

of Bullecourt? village.

wh fired at them & threw 2 flares.

(apparently on fire step of front [[?]]).

          _______________

[The 2nd & 3rd lines of the

German last defence were 

held.] The flares made them sure

it. ws t front line. One man

(Piggott) ws hit in arm by a shot [[?]].

By the second flare they saw our men relieving 

- thought they were ours by the [[?]]

Cambrai first - camped

in citadel in room.

Then to Ervillers - working.

  _____________

The weather ws v. bad

& men became weak

& couldnt go out w t work.

They had to shift back.

  ____________

Then to Saucy Lostry - camped

in a barn. Waking

on rd & ely.

 _____________

Lastly to Saucy Courtney -

 

 

                                                 9

Two men there were

carried unconscious

from work.

Start work at 7

Come back at 12

Go on at 2

Knock off at 4.30

No 2 of meal exc. coffee.

At last place they

worked from 7 to 3.

 

[Diary contd near

xx 3/4 of way thro'

this Book]

 

 

10

Ap. 9th News arrived this morning

of the attack opposite Arres.

Our troops gained first the black

line - then the brown line (the

German 3rd Line running

into the Cojeul Switch) -

6000 prisoners, incl. whole Bn; 40 guns.

Our attack on Bullecourt

Riencourt (latter awfully difficult)

with possible 3rd objve in Hendecourt,

wh ws to have bn made

tomorrow by 12 & 4 Bdes - & was

put off for 8 days from what White

told Army Commdr yesty - is

now on again in another form.

As they cant cut wire, 5th Army

has supplied th corps with

all its tanks (12) wh will

go through the wire. White

went up & saw the Hindenbg

wire himself from near

Longatte. Gough ws keen on t

attack but had agreed to its postponement.

when news of Arias attack came

 

11

Reports recd have raised question

question - whether Gs have

evacuated Bullecourt

 

Ap 9.

11.30pm Patrols report Germans

holding U28B & fired 

at from U28A60.20.

              ____________

12 pm. News tt Cavalry corps

which had bn sent ordered thro late in t

afternoon at Arras had bn

withdrawn. Attack at dawn.

[At 2 a.m. I went up to see

the attack on the Hindbg Line.

with Tanks - It did not come

off.Abt 5 a.m. tanks cd be heard

puffing at Norimil - Gen. Brand recd order

for left to withdraw - Ten mins later two yellow 

flares went up

Gen. Gough sd to Corps: if we get on

in the Northern part o t attack

it is up to you to do something. What

are you going to do.

White sd: Well, unless theres

some worthy object to be gained we 

cant put a division up to face

very heavy losses in front of wire.

But if he likes to send tanks thro

wire first our infy will follow after.

The scheme decided on ws tt our

 

 

12

infy. patrols shd be

sent forwd to see if

line held - & if not

held shd be pushed into

it & inf. shd follow

thro' to Hendecourt & 

Cagnicourt. If it were

held, & things were right

elsewhere, then the

attack ws to be made

with 12 tanks.

  ____________

I ws out all day

today getting details of attack

on Hermies & Boursies from 1st &

3rd Bdes. These were

attacks at dawn.

The 3rd bde went

for Bursies, yesty,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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