Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/67/1 - November - December 1916 - Part 7

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79 5th Bde, having their spell in the restaree the 3od Bde had left, could at get fuel even to do alltheir Cooking with – It waskt in the supply and it could at be bought: nos could oil; there wt practicalty nothing in the canteen while told me to be personally got the canteen people to send the canteen gods up to Albert he other day (transport we difficult)s & Brands 13de bought 15,000 fr. worth before nightfull (Brand sent & thanked him) Duncan Maxwell was recommend for the V.C. for his work on Sept 3/4 & might have got it if the affair had been more successbut. Bot
Cy. Clu B. S. 9.26. 7 brothers got the M.C. Duncan sd: you know he more I think of what Arthur dis the move splended his work seems - he teo everyone to thei place - managed the whole thing. rth was very annoyed when he heard he had got the M.C. He ddit was absurd - be had done nothing - it wa simply towering the value of the decoration. The 49th blame the 5 2ad a good deal; but te t od were actually holden half the 49ths proper front. We name of the Poyieres simather was L. Angel, 5 Bn, attached temporarity to 2ad Bdl, His consin wrote to me to day to know if be had bu badly hurt. The poor char died 3 monts
72 We had a long cold drive from Boulogue to Heetly, dining at Abbeville (hea in quay Reprshment Room at Boulogue.) Smart told me that Anderson had asked Murdoch to do all that he could to get him his Brigadier general-ship. Birdwood, I know has had a cable from Hustialia aski if he will recommend it – he wered back that he as not at all in favour of it - it ad make A. the laughlay stock of soldiers for be knew very little abt military work. did not wishand However - B said - he in their way of theyr wishes, Foed Lest is coming over here as draughtman - I must say I feel a little jealous for the Anzac Book articls they have been thro the turmoil - they began at the beginnng - old trogur enbisted as a private in the infantry; & here is this bumptious chap comin straght culo a job wh they have asked for for ages. coips white is putting Cozeer on t also. L251 wrote to Berdwd, that he presumed he wdl be promoted very rapidly. B wrote back to be ad holl on no hope at all of his promot. -1on. He may turn out a great picture; but it is the ohers who have seen the events. Bogceres, & Angac Dec. 5th took swart up the Hers R. overtooking the whole wattle fie Dec. Sk took Smart to Posures - a vith drive, Hearranged with H. Welson about the photon &cinema pictures for Husticha 73 3ed. Motored down to Dec Boulogue to wiset Swart He did not arrive - Bhrought tom Griffchs down as he is sing over to Englans. Bytebze he tells me that the idee of the authoritess to put in Mcay in London They think he is getting too olt for the division (os too infirm One man it needea yourg hasdman reason was that really to stand the winter on he they thought Somme); & they want Someone his nerve had so ways to put over Newton Moore who, fancy wilite thought MC. they hope, will then resign. If hadlived too ropitly they dnt taik Moore equel & he Clike Antill to it I must say I think had no toyer hes o cov they might turn him out Cwvon. straight away. They consider him too much of a potitician. Dec. 42. Smart arrived today
and ie e en. 2 aete ete t net 6 6 who arre Bagan early July (9131) Last unit 40 Bu midde of Aago some woits came by 2yp Dec. E. Took Smart up to the 3rd Division - a long cold dreve through the mist. Ist Auzac didnt know where 3r Dun H.O. were. We went to Sailly first - found N.G. there; they said Get Din, were at tomeatieres - poobg in their old H.Drs. We drove to tomentieres - got then aferdaik. The Old N.3. His werea the hands of the Eengiaes of Lod Dion. They told us, after some besitation, (as th weren't quite sure of my cdentity) that Lrd Dwn He. were at steen werk We reached there just before dinver. Gen. Monach ws in a five house there thdaughtes of house we playing on heave when I arrived. He tells me to the & the slaff are kept in very strist discipling by 1a the beg French window during denner it is iisha iately closed again by Madames order Mk Akinde Dad Drr. Salisbury yen. Monash gou the folts histoy of his Deven. He look and on July 28; lef Nov.24 Nov. 24t. 750 am. left London 5.15pon ws in Command of the Armentieries Sector. The B.C.R.A of 2nd Angac Cosps. (Brg yen. Powell) ws in com of Frankss Force when Monach came in- The left for Bartenl same night, 2 Bns of Gt Bde. 33,34 were in two days before. Speceibits (even at Cooking) Baie as soon as M. arrived, at special Birticn Schools. Larkchill. Nothey done for Dun in way of Equement till they got on the monl ist act oc MILT.O.C. becauses anxious & widh to Biidwosd. ot have the Hay wrote &sdbe oc 3 Dun- Result ws th bey were put on the poconity list &arther rebrs they becaus flooded with equepnent - a field no -Lark. bill wsfall of it
D 76 had enemy in this line Stap managed trany in adeit inculcate parties lessons (the thing you want to exhibit must happen it socsnt tam bighe com o course: 71 77 &wks by traiy Br 2 de 2 Dev! Gain 2 Ae Bor trainng ws extended by 2& Ble trann by one week. (13 i all). The Bustard area (round after an por) ws given for digpy. They day 3000 yos of pouthig y Geman & Bullsh - Commt O.P.S, Coy HAs arred it & a wile behaid got 2 farm to serve a billets; made a Bde goin & line I cook there then anay Bde enter& relieved them - T standen orders complete ABCD Brs- Each Bn had to carry out a raid & a by attack a artillery wopn. Facroph
78 cooperatin. The Flying School ad aways send 2 to a planes on days notice. - failing attacks - aeropl. ad come tun over withlasn Horn. Showed fares - acropt- droppe wap for artillery. (No such system of tranng to ou knowledge on Evg On Sept 27 Royal Revens. Borrowed 10000 DT Pd for this in begining of Nov. Craterblown - abt 200 generals etc were brought down to see it consolidated? Nov. 1 to 7 consoledates chate Nov 133 Divo-turned out for first time. OMC sdit was the best eqnapped Den to had ever left englandd. It ws absolutely complete to establishment to spare parts of 4. funs.
79 80 Nov. 16.17 3 Divl. Exercises hrawing closed on Nov. 18- First tooks lefton Nor 21 for France. knew What a dump we bec. were toto to make them. had done wering at night Atso night attacks in Jas blarcts - firig at flastes w tarket behiend by flares. Snepay Iustrn. miniature landscape - conceated periscope & smpiy pozz 1.C.t& truck feet by anothi. name. (inflamed celletar tissne) Ouc every week wrote B. Sdab Pozieres Ensure ot every man of your divn can throw a bonh & manat a E. Gun. Lewis gun. Duving
12.40 8-10 wk. 80 Nov. 16. 17 3 Diol. Exercisis. brawing closed on Nov. 18. First toops lfon Nov 21 for France. knew what a dump we bec. were told to make them. had done wering at night. Atso night attacks in Jas blocts - firg at flastes w target behiend by flares. Snepay Iusten. miniature landscape - conceated periscopse & smpi pozzy 1.C.t a truck feet by anothi. name. (inflamed cellectar tisse Once every week wrote theabed you do B. Sdab Pozieres: Ensure ot every man of your divn can throw a bont & manage a E. Gun. Lewis gun. Duving
4 20 A MESSAGE The Men of the Third Australlan Division. You are about to embark for France in order to take your places by the side of our Australian Kinsmen, who in Gallipoli and France, by their valour and endurance, have made Australia famous throughout the world. In the name of our Commonwealth, I call upon every one of you to resolve that, in the task which lies ahead, you will endeavour to display the highest qualities of self-sacrifice, discipline, devotion to duty and self-restraint under all temptations; in order that the reputation you are to carn may rank second to none. You have undergone training in the arts of modern fighting, and in the conduct of a disciplined soldiery. Remember to apply everything that you have learned at all times, and in all places; for on the manner in which you do this you will be judged. hile your future renown will rest chiefly upon your fighting qualities, your courage in the face of the enemy, and your perseverence under hardships, it will depend also upon your soldierly behaviour, whether on or off duty, your prompt obedience, your respect for your military superiors, your smart ness of appearance and bearing, and, particularly, your regard for the welfare and property of the women and children of France whose men-folk are away from their homes helping us to fight our common enemy Keep in mind the crimes of that enemy against our Empire, our Allies, and humanity, and be deter- mined, now that the opportunity for which you have waited so long has come at last, to work and to fight with all the strength and all the skill of which you are capable. IOHN MONASH Major-General Commanding 3rd Australian Division. Salisbury Plain, Nevember, 1916. 80 Nov. 16.17 3 Divl. Exercisis. trainin closed on Nov. 18. arst troops befom vor 21 for France knew what a dump we bec. were told to make them. Had done wering at night. Atso night attacks in Jc belonts - fing at flashes wt tarket behied by flares. Inepie Iustrn. niniature landscape - concealed peris copse & Impay pozzy 1.C.to truck feet by anothi. name. (inflamed cellectar tsse) Once every week wrote thabed you do B. Sdab Pozieres: Ensure of every man of your divn can throw a bont & manage a L. gun. Lewis gun. Duving
8) Bde training they were given 3 days training - 14 tots of the infantr Bie at a time. s every man in the Dion has had at least days bombiry, 1 days L.G.1 day otther specialis subjects. In angorcarly Sept. Ever be made a march of 12 to 15 males to some village. First pirked avillage, then saw local constable, picked billets settled up took food him I sernight per man; & madd led this somehow. Aper each sde di to same. (They were inspec- ted at the time by staff officers but thig were left to themselves &crticisedafterwor). Dun-gotordnto Embart for France & on 21 vor. tey left in a caiet. orderly, punitual

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5th Bde, having their spell
in the rest area the 3rd Bde
had left, couldn't get fuel
even to do all their cooking
with – It wasnt in the " supply",
and it couldnt be bought;
nor could oil;  there ws 
practically nothing in the canteen;
White told me tt he
personally got the canteen
people to send the canteen
goods up to Albert the
other day (transport ws /
difficulty); & Brands Bde
bought 10,000 fr. worth
before nightfall (Brand
sent & thanked him).
Duncan Maxwell was recommended
for the V.C. for his work on Sept 3/4
- & might have got it if the affair
had been more successful. Both
 

 

x Wrong Incorrect. C.E.W.B  3.9.26.
 71     71
brothers got the M.C. Duncan
sd: you know the more I
think of what Arthur did
the more splendid his work
seems - he led everyone to
their place - managed the
whole thing -  Arthur was
very annoyed when he
heard he had got the M.C.
He sd it was absurd - he
had done nothing - it ws
simply lowering the value of
the decoration."
The 49th blame the
52nd a good deal; but the
52nd were actually holding
half the 49ths proper front!
 The name of the Pozieres Signaller
was ^Pte L. Angel, 5 Bn, attached
temporarily to 2nd Bde. His cousin
wrote to me to day to know if he had
bn badly hurt. xThe poor chap died 3 months ago.
 

 

72
→ We had a long cold drive from
Boulogne to Heilly, dining at Abbeville
(tea in quay Refreshment Room at Boulogne.)
Smart told me that Anderson had asked
Murdoch to do all that he could to get him
his Brigadier General-ship. Birdwood, I
know has had a cable from Australia asking
if he will recommend it – he wired back
that he ws not at all in favour of it - it
wd make A. the laughing stock of soldiers
for he knew very little abt military work.
However - B said - he wd not did not wish to stand
in their way of their wishes, if they
Fred Leist is coming over here as
draughtsman - I must say I feel a
little jealous for the Anzac Book artists.
They have been thro' the turmoil - they
began at the beginnng - old Crozier enlisted
as a private in the infantry; & here is
this bumptious chap coming straight into
a job wh they have asked for for ages.
White is putting Crozier on ^Corps H.Q. also. Leist
wrote to Birdwd. that he presumed he wd be
promoted very rapidly. B wrote back tt he
cd hold out no hope at all of his promotion.
He may turn out a great picture; but
it is the others who have seen the events -
Pozieres, & Anzac. so far.
Dec. 5th. Took Smart up to the Flers Ridge -
overlooking the whole battle field.
Dec. 6th  Took Smart to Pozieres - a bitter drive,
He arranged with H. Wilson about the photos
& cinema pictures for Australia.
71     73
Dec. 3rd. Motored down to
Boulogne to meet Smart
He did not arrive - Brought
Tom Griffiths down as he is going
over to England.
By the bye he tells me
that the idea of the authorities
is to put in McCay in London
- they think he is getting too old for
the division (or too infirm -
it needs a young hard man
really to stand the winter on the
Somme); x & they want someone
[*xOne main
reason 
was that 
They thought
his nerve had
gn way ; I
fancy White
thought McC
had lived
too rapidly-
& he (like
Antill)
had no 
longer his 
old courage.
C.EWB 1918*]
 to put over Newton Moore who,
they hope, will then resign. If 
they dont think Moore equal 
to it I must say I think

they might turn him out
straight away. They consider him
too much of a politician.
Dec. 4th. Smart arrived today
 

 

74
Dec. 4
5 am & Gen Elliott & the Scout.
Duckboards in 20 trenches taken by us
in bombs raid.
Men w [[shorthand]].
6 wks arriving.
Began early July (9 Bde)
Last unit 40 Bn middle
of Aug. some units came
by Egypt.
Dec. 7th.  Took Smart up to the 3rd
Division - a long cold drive through the
mist. Ist Anzac didnt know where 3rd
Divn H.Q. were. We went to Sailly first - found
N.Z. there; they said 3rd Divn. were at
Armentieres - probly in their old
H.Qrs. We drove to Armentieres - got there
after dark. The Old N.Z. HQrs were in the
hands of the Engineers of 3rd Divn. They
told us, after some hesitation, (as they
weren't quite sure of my identity) that
3rd Divn H.Q. were at Steenwerk.
We reached there just before dinner.
Gen. Monash ws in a fine house there, -
when the Daughter o / house ws playing on /
piano when I arrived. He tells me tt he & the
staff are kept in very strict discipline by the
owner o / house - Madame. If they open
the big French window during dinner it is immediately
closed again by Madames order.
(3rdDiv. Salisbury)  ^After dinner Gen. Monash gave me
follg.  history of his Divn. He took
command on July 28 ; left Nov. 24.

71 Nov. 24th. 7.50 a.m. left London 5.15pm ws in
command of the Armentieries Sector.
The B.(.R.A of 2nd Anzac Corps.
(Brig Gen. Powell) ws in command
of Franks's Force when
Monash came in- (P) He left for
Bailleul same night.
2 Bns of 9th Bde. 33 & 34 were
in two days before.
Specialists (even at Cooking) trained
as soon as M. arrived, at
special British schools.
Larkhill.
Nothing  done for Divn in way
of Equipment till they got on the
priority list.
Abt Oct 17th G.O.C.became v.
anxious & wrote to Birdwood.
Haig wrote & sd he must have the
3 Divn. Result ws tt abt Oct 17 they were
put on the prioroty list & within
24 hrs they became flooded with
equipment - a field [[shorthand]] -Larkhill
ws full of it.
  

 


 76
Had enemy in this line -
Stage managed training
in order to inculcate parties
lessons (the thing you want
to exhibit must happen -
it doesnt train higher commdrs
of course).

71    77
4 wks Coy training
2 _______ Bn________
2________Bde_______
2________Divl. training.


Bn training ws extended by 2 wks & Bde
training by one week. (13 in all).

The Bustard area (named after an
Inn) ws given for digging. They
dug 3000 yds of front line trench
Germanx & British - Comm trenches
O.P.S, Coy H.Qs, wired it
& a mile behind got 2 farmers
to serve as billets; made a
Bde go in & live & cook there;
then anor Bde entered &
relieved them - trench standing
orders complete ABCD
Bns - Each Bn had to carry
out a raid & a big attack
w artillery coopn. & aeropls
 

 

71    78
cooperation. The Flying School
wd always send 2 to 4 planes
on days notice. - failing
attacks - aeropl. wd come
over with Klaxon Horn. ^Men showed
flares - aeropl. dropped
map for artillery.
(No such system of training
to our knowledge in Eng.
On Sept 27 Royal Review.
Borrowed 10 000 DP rifles for this.
Crater blown in beginning of Nov. - abt 200
Generals etc were brought down
to see it consolidated.
Nov. 1 to 7 consolidated crater
Nov 13. 3rd Divn. turned out
for first time. QMG sd it
was the best equipped Divn
tt had ever left England.
It ws absolutely complete to
Establishment to spare
parts of L. guns.
 

 

79
71    80
Nov. 16. 17 2 Divl. Exercises.
Training closed on Nov. 18 -
First troops left on Nov 21 for
France.
Knew what a dump ws bec.
were told to make them.
Had done wiring at night.
Also night attacks in gas
helmets - firing at flashes w
target behind by flares.
Sniping Instrn. miniature
landscape - concealed periscope
& sniping pozzy.
" i.c.t" = trench feet by another
name. (inflamed cellular
tissue).
Once every week wrote to B.
B. sd abt Pozieres: " Whatever you do,
ensure tt every man of your divn can throw a bomb &
manage a L. Gun.
Lewis gun. "During

 

 

 

79

(shorthand)

8 - 10 (shorthand) wk.
 

71     80
Nov. 16. 17 2 Divl. Exercises.
Training closed on Nov. 18.
First toops left on Nov 21 for
France.

Knew what a dump ws bec.
were told to make them.
Had done wiring at night.
Also night attacks in gas
helmets - firing at flashes w
target behind by flares.
Sniping Instrn. miniature
landscape - conceated periscope
& sniping pozzy.
"i.c.t" = trench feet by another.
name. (inflamed cellular
tissue).
Once every week wrote to B.
B. sd abt Pozieres : "Whatever you do,
ensure tt every man of your divn can throw a bomb &
manage a L. Gun.
"Lewis gun". During
 

 

 71/79
A MESSAGE
TO
The Men of the Third Australlan Division.
You are about to embark for France in order to take
your places by the side of our Australian kinsmen, who in
Gallipoli and France, by their valour and endurance, have
made Australia famous throughout the world.
In the name of our Commonwealth, I call upon every
one of you to resolve that, in the task which lies
ahead, you will endeavour to display the highest
qualities of self-sacrifice, discipline, devotion to
duty and self-restraint under all temptations; in
order that the reputation you are to earn may rank
second to none.
You have undergone training in the arts of modern
fighting, and in the conduct of a disciplined soldiery.
Remember to apply everything that you have
learned at all times, and in all places; for on the
manner in which you do this you will be judged.
While your future renown will rest chiefly upon your
fighting qualities, your courage in the face of the
enemy, and your perseverence under hardships, it
will depend also upon your soldierly behaviour,
whether on or off duty, your prompt obedience,
your respect for your military superiors, your smartness
of appearance and bearing, and, particularly,
your regard for the welfare and property of the
women and children of France whose men-folk are
away from their homes helping us to fight our
common enemy.
Keep in mind the crimes of that enemy against our
Empire, our Allies, and humanity, and be determined,
now that the opportunity for which you
have waited so long has come at last, to work and to
fight with all the strength and all the skill of which
you are capable.
IOHN MONASH
Major-General
Commanding 3rd Australian Division.
Salisbury Plain,
November, 1916.

71    80
Nov. 16. 17 2 Divl. Exercises.
Training closed on Nov. 18.
First troops left on Nov 21 for
France.
Knew what a dump ws bec.
were told to make them.
Had done wiring at night.
Also night attacks in gas
helmets - firing at flashes w
target behind by flares.
Sniping Instrn. miniature
landscape - concealed periscope
& sniping pozzy.
"i.c.t" = trench feet by another
name. (inflamed cellular
tissue).
Once every week wrote to B.
B. sd abt Pozieres: "Whatever you do,
ensure th every man of your divn can throw a bomb &
manage a L. gun.
"Lewis gun." During
 

 

71     81
Bde training they were given
3 days training - ¼ tots of the
Bde at a time.   . ; every infantry man
in the Divn has had at least
1 days bombing, 1 days L.G.,
1 day other specialist subjects.
In Aug or early Sept. every
bn made a march of 12 to
15 miles to some village. First
picked a village, then saw
local constable, picked billets,
took food w them, lived there, settled up
Id per night per man; &
muddled thro' somehow.
Afterwds each Bde did
the same. (They were inspected
at the time by staff officers,
but they were left to themselves
& criticised afterwds).
Divn - got order to embark
for France & on 21 Nov. they left
in a quiet, orderly, punctual
 

 
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