Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/66/1 - November 1916 - Part 5

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20 3r Tolts 2 4 D Scietes 7 L Hibbert, Col. prefitis batman says. he ws in t Ross Pa 8 W Bron 15t day stanted up whites gol (under fire on boats came over towards Jolly (near where I wanger ws hit probl) outs N. Stope of T. Toll foeing mosting Ridge. Saw no 15. which going across Tolly, but to were on Morter Ridge for Ross as hit sowewhere on way some strange off we in charge There as no bing. they overlooked the Flat in port of Morter Ridge. There were us 1s on the flat; but our troops were o Baby 700 fon the tower 44 Nov 15. Today. White told my a report came in th 1Germans were massing as if to attack our newly taken part of fird E. He got tis whole of our guns to tern on - 60 pounders & all -9 any attack wh was materin w mast have been squashed pretty thoroughly It is now certain what t we hold because little Holus himself went through them to see. At one time he was in 50 yards of upper part of moster Ridge & on Babr 700. About dusk apar 8 35 under an offr. (3d to be Capt. Cemens 5Bn) started out as if for mortar Ridge. N more wsevev seen of them 62 tis part. The st retired as in skelch &found itself amongt N. Zealawders, B+ Bele& 3nt Bde probl at steeles or Courtneys. To were on Baby, Morter Ridze, & Jun Rdge
4 which were absolutely anocgied He should our men into this, I believe. He reeds to be careful It is only too easy to to down pese anoceupied t a find yourself looking into a nexr of germans. we did not get unto the Maze, white said. (I believe this we not. bombarded, &t evemy ws read for us there). the 601c Novl64 to night at troops were driven out of the Gird trench which they took the ther day at all it is known at presentes to a verbal report has come in from the O.C. of the left Bn. let Bde to gird 2 has be retaken by Germoust a bout attack from the N.W.& across the open from NE. our infantry with a detachment of the 50l12 Drvn setired to Tumpiny
8 46 off trench MISCO3 to MExAGS. Artiller put down barrage to N.D gird French at 640 pm. Lewis guns & Rifles had bealen off frontal attack but men were bombed out. (it ws added to a wounded officer sd te an attack by a young austialin officer, immediately had dreven Fermaws then out] As I ws reading this Alegain and her came in Left Bn back in Jumping off 2our to Ftiony evering attack. Stronpatiol out tofind wheter ird i heldin strength or by small parties only. I latter it will be recempied. Dt strongly held, reprt deliberate attack not advisable without fest troops Of course this sealed the faty of git o for the present. Strong patrols - or patrols of any sort - a doaly bray in one report in ay experience - to 1 truck is Strongly halt? - no doubt it is
wilson - the Padve of 3Bn ed to me to someove had put it to him. The offace wouldn't look any different if they were dead 111 He too had bn struck by I 48 Nov. 1 It was literly cold last night & today the roads have been pozen all day long The strack last wight was made after dare & I daresay his cold had someting to do with it reKerana ci I was out getting detail of the armeatures Raid all day the wind was bitter. I have chilblay on all my fingess & bes & attimes it is dificult. &welk Iheard a chance remark aken our 5th Diva were being relieved, made by the Britiet p field ashen here; they say the anstiation infantry are standing it very ladty I saw some of our men coming out as I was sorg ap to t live come days ago & was gater shocked with the took of the wen? Not demoratised in any degree - but grey - drawn faces - &ver very grim. It is first time ever passedan custialia Brathout seeny a sayle smile on any man's face. Some of
over 49 then limped along after their little trevel carls as worn & haperd as loo I have seen a Britist toming - very pall & an s haven for tru days a more. hereutbe no doub t tel men had been through very severe Lardship & were fuling it very heavity Nov. 18 My 37th Bortday had meant to run down & fet Jack ad to get some more armeatieres detail. but ti morning. Then Bazley came in I sail. have you seen oatside. Iir 31 I penew what had happened He road, the cottage roops opposite, the tops of the by moher coorse against my windlow were thick wifh know. If decived to te upto battlifict & see how m stood it &what I battle fiel looked like. By the te
Wes Yorks Wisdon has got the fin Bde vice Paton? 8) Robertson of the 9th has te 13th Bde Glasfard. vill X 2199 51 I starte, with Butter at 1010 am be roads had completely thawed The traffee wt kick & the stush as yelow as ever. we reached montauban 3 it as too Cate then & go anywhere o s wait for kapp (who wa being reture fom te prnoners cage I - Barber had gone just before) & came straight back wisdom white told me that Hols had sien him a pretty full account of the was of gind 27t There ane abt 150 tomnies (west York) in the left of truch. They cortainly hell ataken nasly corner flank quite in tho air & asest offerman E (possibly full of mut but still tw cbe usiy desed capping ap teir left flank like a sort heard. She first then aw lin of
52 knew of attack was an outbreat of bombs on their left of the west yorks ar rannay back out of their trut partof line & though ours They went on tho our man & got back tho our commn tinto their own battalion A young officer of the 28th got our men out into 16 open & C. attacked the fermans The 28th had beate off an aboct on their pout. The young oficers party was getting on well when he ws hil & the spirit went out of the attack. The 28th came right back al our own gird is to the lines & left Jermans. We remain in the lower end of the maze - & I am not sure to this ws not British
53 before we came to the ares It is very depressing to have had his happin. It is the first time in this war that Cnstratians have ever bat a trench, which was once solidty their. They had been this trenth for 2 dayso in the the position on the left was difficult it wanot impossible [ a T head cdhevebeen put at & or a breach day round te flank facing the Germans, such as I have clolled. while thinks - & to do that the 5th Bole wd never have come out of these i - They had bu relieve by the 7th Bde wh
has never been a food Gdo. The 28h Bn, it is true, io the best Bo on it but he 7Be has never had be discipting o the spirit of the other Bdes. Why L55ge believes i it I don't kow Sta The 2ad Bwn, Herbertson Se are very sick w T Bde (MacCallum, being I Bde saturally wd be. dterit The men are as good as rather belle yanytig any white sd. It is the officers that wabe he difference Nov. 194h. Was shocked today see the list of officers lost on that wretched little attack of the 14 Novmber. He 20t Ballalion lost 12- 5 or messing + 6 wounded! and
68 Cpt. Rush they incloded a five officer I believe 10 Sherbon the 19th lost Cap a splended boy son ofattle 27. Sperbon in Sydney, of the Defence Dept. He (wond agree to the boy's soig to New Tuinca, but he went He ad the chief interest his fatin had in life He w al tro the frightful days of Pozures in the dugontin Rail where I found tem about a. quite cut of from al other truches. Another who ao boat in charge of a composte bn of the Bde W4 Nicholas of the 24 Br the goungster whs for a time commanded his ballation & Flomad his name going out

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Ap.25 
5th Bn party.
G.O.T       Blanket trench    Jolly
Hand drawn diagram - see original
Steeles
All
? this. The
places are
rather
doubtful.
Hibbert, Col Griffith's batman says:  he ws
in Lt Ross' Party of 5th Bn on
1st day.  Started up White's
Gully (under fire in boats)
Came over towards Jolly.
(near where Lt. Manger ws hit
probly) onto N. Slope of J. Jolly
facing Mortar Ridge.  Saw no
Ts. while going across Jolly, but
Ts were on Mortar Ridge, firing.
Ross ws hit somewhere on way.
Some strange offr ws in charge
There ws no line.  They overlooked
the Flat in front of Mortar Ridge.  There
were no Ts on the flat;  but our troops
were on Baby 700 & on the tower  

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Nov 15. Today, White told me,
a report came in tt / Germans
were massing as if to attack our
newly taken part of  Gird trench.
He got the whole of our guns to
turn on - 60 pounders & all - &
any attack wh was maturing
was very quickly sq must
have been squashed pretty thoroughly.
It is now certain what
trenches we hold because little Holmes
himself went through them to see. 
At one time he was in 50 yards of trench
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^upper part of Mortar Ridge & on Baby
700.  About dusk a party of
35 under an offr. (sd to be
Capt. Clemens 5 Bn) started out
for as if for Mortar Ridge.  No
more ws ever seen of them by
this party.  The pty retired as in the
sketch & found itself amongst
N.Zealanders, 1st Bde & 3rd Bde,
probly at Steeles or Courtneys.
Ts were on Baby, Mortar Ridge, & Gun Ridge.

 

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which were absolutely unoccupied.
He shoved our men into this, I
believe.  He needs to be careful.
It is only too easy to go down these
unoccupied trenches & find yourself
looking into a nest of Germans.
We did not get into the Maze,
White said.  (I believe this ws not
bombarded, & tt / enemy ws ready
for us there).
Nov 16th.  Tonight at 6 o'c. the
troops were driven out of the
Gird trench which they took the
other day. at such cost. All tt is
known at present is tt a "verbal
report has come in from the O.C.
of the left Bn. left Bde tt Gird trench
has bn retaken by / Germans by
a front attack. from the N.W. &
across the open from NE.  Our
infantry with a detachment of
the 50th Divn retired to Jumping

 

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Off Trench M18 C03 to M24 A45.
Artillery put down barrage to N. of
Gird Trench at 6.40 pm.  Lewis Guns
& Rifles had beaten off frontal
attack but men were bombed out.
[It ws added tt a wounded officer
sd tt an attack ^led by a young Australian
officer, immediately had driven
them ^Germans out].
As I ws reading this telegram and there came
in:  Left Bn back in Jumping Off trench owing
to strong enemy attack.  Strong patrols
out to find whether Gird trench held in
strength or by small parties only.
If latter it will be reoccupied.  It
strongly held, regret deliberate attack
not advisable without fresh troops.
Of course this sealed the fate of Gird trench
for the present.  Strong patrols - or patrols of
any sort - wd only bring in one report
in my experience - tt / trench is
strongly held;  & no doubt it is.

 

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*Wilson - the Padre of 3 Bn sd to me
tt someone had put it to him:  "Their faces
wouldn't look any different if
they were dead."  He too had bn
struck by it.

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Nov. 17.  It was bitterly cold last
night & today the roads have
been frozen all day long.  The ^German attack
last night was made after dark
& I daresay this cold had something
to do with it.
I was out ^in the Rest area getting details of
the Armentieres Raid all day &
the wind was bitter.  I have chilblains
on all my fingers & toes & at times
it is difficult to walk. 
I heard a chance remark - when
our 5th Divn were being relieved, made
by the British paymas field cashier 
here;  X "they say the Australian
infantry are standing it very badly."
I saw some of our men coming out
as I was going up to / line some
days ago & was rather shocked
with the look of the men.  Not
demoralised in any degree - but
grey - drawn faces - & very
very grim.  It is / first time I
ever passed an Australian
Bn without seeing a single smile
on any man's face.  * Some of

 

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them limped along after their little
trench carts as if worn & haggard
as ever I have seen a British
Tommy - very pale & unshaven
for two or three days or more.
There could be no doubt tt
these men had been through very
severe hardship & were feeling it
very heavily.
Nov. 18  My 37th Birthday.  I
had meant to run down & see
Jack and to get some more
Armentieres details;  but this
morning when Bazley came in
& said:  "Have you seen outside,
Sir?"  I knew what had happened.
The road, the cottage roofs opposite,
the tops of the big motor lorries
over against my window were
thick with snow. 
I decided to go up to /
battlefield & see how / men
stood it & what / battlefield
looked like.  By the time

 

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*Wisdom has got the 7th 
Bde vice Paton;  & Robertson
of the 9th has the 13th Bde
vice Glasfurd.
Hand drawn diagram - see original
Frontal attack
W. Yorks 28 Bn
West Yorks

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I started, with Butler, at
10.10 am. the road had completely
thawed.  The traffic ws thick
& the slush as yellow as ever -
we reached Montauban abt
3;  & it ws too late then to go
anywhere;  so I just waited
for Kapp (who ws being relieved
from the prisoners cage ) - Barber
had gone just before) & came 
straight back.
White told me that Holmes Wisdom *had
given him a pretty full account
of the loss of Gird trench.  There were
abt 150 Tommies (West Yorks) in
the left o / trench.  They certainly
held a rather nasty corner -
flank quite in the air & a nest
of German trenches (possibly full of mud
but still trenches wh cd be used if desired)
capping Capping their left flank like a sort
of T head.  The first thing our line

 

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knew o / attack was an
outbreak of bombs on their
left & the West Yorks coming
running back out of their trenches
part o / line & through ours.
They went on thro' our men
& got back thro' our commn
trench into their own battalion.
A young officer of the 28th
got our men out into the
open & C. attacked the Germans.
The 28th had beaten off an
attack on their front.  The
young officers party was getting
on well when he ws hit
& the spirit went out of the
attack.  The 28th came
right back into our own 
lines & left Gird trench to the
Germans.  We remain in the
lower end of the Maze - & I am
not sure tt this ws not British

 

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before we came to the area.
It is very depressing to
have had this happen.  It is the
first time in this war that
Australians have ever lost
a trench which was once
solidly theirs.  They had been
in this trench for 2 days, &
tho' the position on the left
was difficult it ws not
impossible
Hand drawn diagram - see original
A T head
cd have been put at X or
a trench dug round the flank
facing the Germans, such as I have
dotted.
White thinks - & so do I -
that the 5th Bde wd never have
come out of these trenches - They had
bn relieved by the 7th Bde wh

 

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has never been a good Bde.
The 28th Bn, it is true, is the
best Bn in it;  but the 7 Bde
has never had the discipline or
the spirit of the other Bdes.  Why
Legge believes in it I dont know.
The 2nd Divn ^staff, Herbertson
says, are very sick w /
7th Bde (MacCallum, being 5 Bde)
naturally wd be.
The men are as good ^material as
any - "rather better if anything"
White sd.  It is the Officers
that make the difference.
Nov. 19th.  Was shocked today
to see the list of Officers lost
in that wretched little attack
of the 14 November.  The 20th
Battalion lost 12 - 6 killed
or missing & 6 wounded! and

 

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they included Capt. Rush,
a fine officer, I believe;  &
the 19th lost Capt. Sherbon - 
a splendid boy, son of little W. 
Sherbon in Sydney, of the Defence
Dept.  He wdnt agree to the boy's
going to New Guinea, but he went.
He ws the chief interest his
father had in life.  He ws all
thro the frightful days of Pozieres
in the dugout in Rail trench
where I found them about Aug 1.
quite cut off from all other
trenches. 
Another who ws lost - in
charge of a composite bn of the
6th Bde, ws Maj. Nicholas of the
24th Bn - the youngster who
for a time commanded
his battalion & who made
his name by going out

 

 

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