Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/63/1 - October - November 1916 - Part 9

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Denoyori 1. M Fasprd as came down a Herbertson A. B cage (see summry of dat & complaints re ptigues a/c. Staftfaiture 12. Retarnd. Hears Slasped bit (Nerb. told n while says he will organine hapic, fatines Glasfard aied - 13 Funeral. Heavy pac Beaunon Hanel Bnd dwn EBy 2 Bt 14/1/1020000 Stow in other attack. Gadrguns 89 bluish in attack at Enoagues + here. It barrage s wo have on til. some bad some food wnil St Renards supporte & gob. Thaten n asross oen to goudtine. far Heavy ferny to s r Oche hitle what this fyht weans 2 dow t parans on Eves si Observati is who are office with hem in te old chunch ruis up there I went straytt on for gellebrands HAw & reathe after 830 ther near the cuttory below Lwitch Selly w5 busy down Stairs the but sasapet dug out his tre above of wes crowd a fair siged Has The trenchy allsorts. fitty it out tth duct 600 rest 2 te
ap to your knee in 30 68 yellow mad. Had there ws an observate post near the Hn - I had seen it a little pit isolated from I trench. I chmbed in next to (two men in it - they were observe from the 230d Bn Just arrive. the hill stretched down gently for abt a mel &shalfin Front of as & then dinppeared over he knnctles into the oadey. Up the other side it rose sunitarty two forut a mile or our side ws about helf madd shell boles te other side seem almost green. To the En front nlo of hill, or jus it, we a clock behinds abo 2mile away. in tower
60 fronk of this oo left w a village in some trees (tilloy Legny thilloy) & to clft pont. of this again - near (bollow of opposity slope as a neare village. You ad see I houses mostly standing the shattered diserted & roophes dute brown the whole place; & te wet mud shiring down Tent a diserted stree The observerd showed youe to there were yer walkin from down. occasionely the the top of hill below clock, across the green slope De to 1 valley the sode een they cal have see Ltav 74 teliscones& wak about our slope in I same way, almost to I very botho oth side seem to avo
92 villages + by day abany rate But we uset vellages much mone than the fermans, sad say. Atho everyone takks of Hers as if it were very daugerous there are rea quarters there & plenty of guns, two fn ty & I loates certainly no worse than Contadmaicon wh we use consistentall we wereat Foeres. Down near the Edge of our fhiltslope Ied see here I there a number of man collected either on a halfdug truch or in the open behind (a bant. My. telescope went workin well). I knew they were for probable the line ready the attack But alto it w wh I thought lit am
hovr there ws wuo bombet How It is moat defficule thing keep ones watch to night & though I have three one of them fairily goad) I could nt rely on it. This we a pity as the times were very importang in this attack. Homdlate Hbout 9.10 wh ws the hong fixed for Zero first fa funs burst ont the behind as o the whole charns of course immediately four boyot the barroge Thes was in I notici ws The next te there I had seen a small t e bunch of men, a wi continuans hie of man in setting out & foing very diliberately forward. They semed to be looking at their wee + I daresay tey feet They shell ols the tword to
162 were certainly going slower I than any time of Aush chan I had ever seen. They took 30r 4 minutes to get over the stay tine our own barrage ws never this side of it. I did not see any man fath + they did not seem to be under fire from te enemy [I found afterwos tt they undoubled were & were losing all time). I noticed no one fall. In three or fourminutes the evemys shell were bursting behind tem 42059 H.E) the live gradual disappeared over I knuckly excast Part of i as in view tonger than other parts bng I did not notice any gaps or bunching & it seemed to To most studily.
6 95 waite on for two hours but not a man came back, not even a aressenger so fr as Icd see. T Gasman shells burst fairly continuondy on our side of them & the vally itself was filled with lage thaat o smake out of wh white lights of freen lights were continuaty bey shot up - All the while fermans ed be see taro tchneope waking up or down further green slope I our men, behind lines walking up. & down teno ande the p slope The Girmans every two or three manules threw in one 4.2 or 15.9 shell suncd at the Hradges in the trench beside us. you cd
36 Lardly hear the trick of th shell tho the racket of yuns. but only the bang when it burst - always to our right & just behind. I threw heavy eart clods into 1 air, which cumbledto scometi muddy water. The place was crawded with artiller observers Dynatlers & headln ranners but at one was turt. As there h no news and tething to be seen I lepatabt on 1106 nearly pozen dodgednte elly's dugont + left a patent Etching sen (for Indian tont) for Froguer & walked down tack over hill. Our batteries there were simply bristling o two vows of field guns packes Side & the 60pp. by side
34 further back. the old barkin Sin Howitzers behind them. we went upto see hegge at Cartton trench e his Diot#rs on th top of further hill. He made me come in & have come whichy as I had had no breakfast. The new w good be sd. The enemy had be shelling their own 2 8 that we the first notice we had to our men were in afterwds amessage come to the right bo as an. It ws Mr Cay & the 5th Dion who were suming the show, as ty had prepared I plan but I troops were all 2nd Dun exc afor enginteers
88 Falon had bu back while tryn hit de a centre for his The 25th Bo wh w0 the centre bed bean lout its was Col. Walkeg & Paton were Sanda up on paripit Cern were quite comparatively ma wo close to the Perman Aive when walker tooked round o sa a frmen at them. He should ferman cuto Otrench. look out, o pump the bullet whigged past his head te off wit abt here. Orders have be in to case thi fo they had by lost even ugehs before I left the observation o post but wo w ware fou shell holed lidnt know . 99 (This is a very carious situation I have never known it heppin before.) Bisdwood came upas I ws there. I meet I little man trudfing back afterwors. thro the mad to Montauban, thirnside leaden his horses behind him. Hirdwood saluted every soldier whether they sabuted him or not - his salate always carried a smile & a sort of goodday. In the evening when I called apat the Chateen at Heitty, Birdwood told me it the brenches had be lost Driven from The man had te them before he tef Cartton French - but not a word ts known of eavy it. The artiler had told Berdad then it they were expecting a c-allack were ready for it,
100 was Vilef charch tover J Dn all ad cancourt Le Taps. our line about here about from here that I sawanr tie o over on 100.5. 101 Fers < I.5 licour IEanE HA E He lower sketch goes on the st of the apper. Do

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Heavy firing
11. Met Glasfurd as came down w Herbertson

[[?]]  (see summary of date)
*complaints re fatiques etc. staff failure.

12. Returnd. Heard Glasfurd hit (Herb. told me)

White says he will organise traffic, fatigues

13. Glasfurd died - Funeral.

Heavy firing

Beaumont Hamel to

*3rd Divn & 28Bn.

 

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14/11/16.    [shorthand]   25th Btn

Slow in other attack. 6 pdr guns.
X Quick in attack at Mouquet & 

here. If barrage slower bad wd have bn hit

some bad, some good units.
52 guards supported & got shelled

badly - across  open to front line.

Heavy firing

Car 3 hrs behind lorry.

X what this fight means - going downhill.
15 massing - every gun is on
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Observatn Officers who are
with him in the old church you
ruins up there. I went straight
on for Gellibrands HQ's & reache
there after 8.30 - near the cutting
below Switch trench. Gelly ws
busy down stairs - but ^on the
trench ^ parapet above his dug out 
ws a fair sized crowd of men
of all sorts. The trench was
filthy - only a little of it
duckboarded & / rest nearly
 

 

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up to your knees in
yellow mud. He sd there ws
an observatn post near the
HQrs - I had seen it - a little
pit isolated from / trench.
I climbed in next to / two men in
it - they were observers from the
23rd Bn just arrived.
The hill stretched down gently
for abt a mile & a half in
front of us & then disappeared
over the knuckles into the

valley. Up the other side
it rose similarly & gently -
for about a mile or two.

our side ws about half
muddy shell holes - the
other side seemed almost
entirely green. To the left
front - on /  top o / hill, or just
behind it, ws a clock
tower abt 2 miles away; in
 

 

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front of this & to / left ws
a village in some trees (Thilloy
& Ligny Thilloy; to / left front
of this again - near / bottom
o / opposite slope ws a nearer
village. You cd see / houses
mostly standing tho' shattered
deserted & roofless - dull brown

the whole place; & the wet
mud shining down / centre
o / deserted street.
The observers showed me

tt there were Germans walking

down. occasionally, from

the top o / hill below the

clock, across the green slope

to / valley foot on from their side.

They cd have seen - ^ even without
telescopes, our men walking

about our slope in / same
way, almost to / very bottom.
Both sides seem to avoid /

 

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villages - by day at any rate.
But we use / villages much
more than the Germans, I
shd say. Altho' everyone

talks of Flers as if it were
very dangerous there are
two bn head quarters there & plenty of guns,

[shorthand]
& it looks certainly no worse
than Contal Maison wh we
used consistently all / time
we were at Pozieres.
Down near the edge of
our hill slope I cd see here
& there a live number of
men collected either in a 
half dug trench or in the
open behind a bank. (My
telescope wsnt working
well). I knew they were
probably the line ready for
the attack. But altho' it
ws 9 am., wh I thought ws / 
 

 

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hour, there ws no bombt.
However C It is / most difficult
thing to keep ones watch
right & though I have three (& 
one of them fairly good) I couldnt
rely on it. This ws a pity as
the times were very important
in this attack.
About 9.10 - wh ^ I found later ws
the hour fixed for "zero" -
the first few ^ field guns burst out
behind us & the whole chorus
of course immediately joined
in. This was the barrage bombt -
The next thing I noticed ws
tt, where I had seen a small
bunch of men, a ^ very long
continuous line of men ws
getting out & going very
deliberately forward. They
seemed to be looking at their
feet- & I daresay they were,
to avoid the shell holes. They

 

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were certainly going slower
than any line of Australians
I had ever seen. They took
3 or 4 minutes to get over the
skyline - our own barrage ws
never this side of it. I did not 
see any man fall - they
did not seem to be under
fire from the enemy [ I found
afterwds tt they undoubtably
were & were losing all /
time). I noticed no one fall.
Before In three or four minutes
the enemy's shells were bursting
behind them - 4.2 or 5.9
H.E. - the line gradually
disappeared over / knuckle.
I did not Part of it ws in
view longer than other parts but
I did not notice any gaps

or bunching & it seemed to go
most steadily.
 

 

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I waited on for two hours
but not a man came back;
not even a messenger so far
as I cd see. The German
shells burst fairly continuously
on our side of them - & the
vally itself was filled with
haze & dust & smoke out
of wh white lights & green
lights were continuously being
shot up - All the while
Germans cd be seen thro'
/ telescope walking up or
down / further green slope,
& our men behind / lines,
walking up & down their muddy
the German slope. The Germans
every two or three minutes
threw in one 4.2 or 5.9 shell
aimed at the Headqrs in the
trench beside us - you cd
 

 

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hardly hear the shriek of tt
shell thro the racket of guns,
but only the bang when it
burst - always to our right
& just behind. It threw heavy
earth clods into / air, which
tumbled onto us - & sometimes
muddy water. The place
was crowded with artillery
observers signallers & headqrs
runners but no one ws hurt.
As there ws no news and
nothing to be seen I left at abt
11 o'c. nearly frozen ^ w / wind - dodged into
Gelly's dugout & left a patent
etching pen(for Indian ink) for 
Crozier - & walked down back
over / hill. Our batteries
were simply bristling ^ there - two
rows of field guns packed
side by side - & the 60 pdrs
 

 

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further back, & the old barking
8in Howitzers behind them.
We went up to see Legge at
Carlton Trench - where he had
his Divl. HQrs, on the
top o / further hill. He
made me come in & have
some whisky as I had had

no breakfast. The news ws
good he sd. The enemy had
bn shelling their own trench - xx
arty that ws the first notice we
had tt our men were in;
afterwds a message came tt
the right bn ws in. It ws Macl
M'Cay & the 5th Divn who
were running the show, as
they had prepared / plans

- but / troops were all
2nd Divn exc. a few engineers.
 

 

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Brig. Gen Paton had bn
hit in / back while trying
to provide a centre for his
line. The 25th Bn, wh ws
to have been the centre, had
lost its way.
[Col. Walker & Paton were standing
up on / parapet (trenches were
too muddy) quite comparatively
close to the German line when
Walker looked round & saw a 
German aiming at them. He shouted
look out & jumped into / trench.
The bullet whizzed past his head. 4 offs
were hit abt here.orders have been gn to use the commn trenches

X They had bn lost even 
before I left the observation
post. but most o / men
were in shell holes & we
didnt know it.

 

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(This is a very curious situation
- I have never known it happen
before.) Birdwood came up as
I ws there. I met / little
man trudging back afterwds
thro the mud to Montauban,
Chirnside leading his horses
behind him. Birdwood saluted
every soldier whether they
saluted him or not - his
salute always carried a smile
& a sort of "Good day".
In the evening when I 
called up at the Chateau at
Heilly, Birdwood told me
tt the trenches had bn lost. X
The men had left ^ bn driven from them before
he left Carlton Trench - but
not a word ws known of
it. The ^ heavy artillery had told
Birdwd then tt they were
expecting a c. attack &
were ready for it.
 

 


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Hand drawn diagram - see original document
 
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Hand drawn diagram - see original document

Note
The lower sketch goes on the rt of the appex.

 

 

 

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