Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/60/1 - September - October 1916 - Part 8

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First World War, 1914–18
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that is wh we did get on so very well Anyway we did. when we had to evacuate the first then I did wo to to straught across & see him. We are going to evacuate, monsieur le general? I said, & Iai besomn de votic cooperation Oh one - cooperation he said and was most pleasant about it cooperation. ws about atl the Trench I knew "I saidIt is going to be a most delicate business & we shall not be able to canly it out under two head. The first thing I am going to do is to wacnate all your
78 infantry - We will artdraw them all within the next too days. We have ten days allogetter He apeed quite reasonaly But I in apaid ane is sne thein I shall want of I said I shall want your artilliry Ican Ct Au 90 He was very anxous at that. My precious seventy fives he said cannot lse them 4C you will not lose hem, geveral I said You will have tem all back. I will undertake to withor te pari passi with our own artiller you shall have them back I will
guarantee, all your guns unless there are any that cannot be taken away. are there any wh you know of to wd havet be left behing a Only six ? he said. there are two old g2 some old guus which have fire $7000 rounds. two old 9.25 & four Cindl we shd not take them offin any case. We ad leave them here 9C well? I sd leave them, & your own engineers sall hlow them up before ae So it was all arrange with the best of good will
80 such a cout you know ot to our way a cespatch in Ture saying that this officer (Beidwood) had already been rewarded: etc. 81 Old Bralard kisw me when he said good byc-I had always thought a Frenchwans kiss, was a ceremonious affair, but the oldman's checks were wet with tears when he k me. I think be really was foued of me. The very day after the evacuation I had a telegam from Toffre tanking me & giving we the croex-de Sucire i I next day came a calle from Coincare given me the legion of Honour. of course te first thi I att time did was 5 wire home asking them to give Sometim to thank to Brulard or account his friendly cooperation. It
82 was only the ther day when I was at home tat I managed to get them do sometiing Six wonted after the Event Noti had reached him about it I was asking wignam o the said that sometiing had been sent him, but it had gove to Salovica crossed him. Anyway it was vern gazetted. munro getting Fane somebing for the Evacuation ranro who ouly seems to have suggester plans wh were not adopted, who ws not there when the were carried out F Birdword nothing from his own country 0
83 course one strong suspects it was a certain fealans They say to Birdwooddwill never be approved for command of an Aving because t s not a stap college man. That 15 what Murdack tts me. Kitchmen to Berdie Saye first worcs to him on reachin the Dardanelles were. If you out relief it knew what a 15 to get away from politicians yen who are alway at you to whom you have to explain Kings as you would to a little child & who cannot understan twn even then Releheve white one the Penincula was enterety
84 apposed, Birdwood say to eracuation H was fermil set against 28 at that time One of t thing that are Sait to be counted against Birdwood himself on this potitical intrigng of a Dardanlly commission (Co Murdach tetts we) is that Manro has reported that of all the Coras commanders whom at the Dandamell he consulted the only one Birdwood W who ws agoo exacuation. to when be ws asked for his reasons they were rater pagne but cheefly insisted on the blow to our prestigt to East ti
85 well Supposing there had bean the 20 or 25 per cent Cases which Everyone expected cnstead of a sort of moral victory in (not losing a man body I tuit it was) sapposing we had lost 20,000 man in two or three days thro to the Tark, tanniy away mightet it have bit a heavy blor to our pocstige. Some people say i has been Ercnnow. 20 There people are very lever after the event. At last, today, after 6 monghs from the War Office aire arrived that portentous institutions decision as to my car. A/a 6 monks writing & counter-writing teon
86 ay request that ay fong 5ho be allowed t have cheaver car tan the car to I am allowed to have leecause saaller a cheaper car wd do quite well & I am ready to put ap with it t the war office (upon reference to the Commander in Chief-who of course dnt reall decive it has given its ceciaion toI cannot be sermitted to save this money for the country tall press The reason is correspondents shust be put on an agual footin Col. Audason has kinp applied for me to have th at lay car, just like others the L11per week
87 honeatly caunot find an explanation 6 unless this the Censor, possitly. in his mean little spnd thinks I am trying to the an advantage & get a car in which I can run about, in some anexphiing way, more at large & Coose than in a big car I the cannot why honestl See this I dont war Ofc has done mnotenes are pelis to my always sumple or attruistic very farfom it indeed, as I know only too well. But in this case I have been trying from first to last to avoid one thing only o that is the wash of my governments money dening a war like this

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that is why we did get
on so very well - anyway
we did.
“When we had to evacuate
the first thing I did ws to go
straight across & see him. We
are going to evacuate, Monsieur
le General,” I said, “& J’ai
besoin de votre cooperation.”
“ ‘Oh oui- cooperation’ he
said and was most pleasant
about it - ‘cooperation’
ws about all the French I
knew __
"I said: ‘It is going to be
a most delicate business,
& we shall not be able
to carry it out under two heads.
The first thing I am going to
do is to evacuate all your

 

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infantry - We will withdraw
them all within the next two
days. We have ten days
altogether.' "
"He agreed quite reasonably.
"But I'm afraid there is
one thing I shall want,' I said
'I shall want your artillery
I cant let them go'
"He was very anxious
at that. 'My precious
seventy fives' he said. 'I
cannot lose them'.
" 'You will not lose
them, general.' I said 'You
will have them all back.
I will undertake to withdraw
them pari passu with
our own artillery. You
shall have them back I will

 

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guarantee, - all your guns
unless there are any that
cannot be taken away.
Are there any wh you
know of tt wd have to be
left behind.
" ' Only six' he said.
'There are two old 9.2s
which some old guns which
have fired 7000 rounds,
two old 9.2s & four 6 inch.
We shd not take them off in
any case. We wd leave
them here'.
"'Well', I sd, 'leave
them, & your own engineers
shall blow them up before
we go'.
"So it was all arranged
with the best of good will -

 

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Such a contrast you know
to our way - a despatch in
June saying that this officer
(Birdwood) had already
been rewarded: etc.  →

 

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Old Brulard kissed me
when he said good bye - I had
always thought a Frenchmans
kiss was a ceremonious 
affair, but he old man's
cheeks were wet with tears
when he kissed me. I think
he really was fond of me.
"The very day after
the evacuation I had a
telegram from Joffre thanking
me & giving we the Croix-de
-Guerre; & next day came
a call from Poincaré giving
me the Legion of Honour.

Of course the first thing I
did ∧at the time was to wire home
asking them to give something
to Brulard ^to mark on account of
his friendly cooperation. It

 

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was only the other day
when I was at home that
I managed to get them
to do something - six
months after the event nothing
had reached him about it.
I was asking Wigram - they
said that something had been
sent him, but it had gone to
Salonica & not reached him
crossed him. Anyway
it was never gazetted."
Fancy Munro getting
something for the Evacuation
- Munro! who only
seems to have suggested plans
wh were not adopted, &
who ws not there when they
were carried out; & Birdwood
nothing from his own country. Of

 

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course one strongly suspects
it was a certain jealousy.
They say tt Birdwood will
never be approved for an
Army command of an Army
because he is not a staff
college man. That is what
Murdoch tells me.
Birdie says tt Kitcheners
first words to him on reaching
the Dardanelles were: "If you
only knew what a relief it
is to get away from politicians!
Men who are always at you -
to whom you have to explain
things as you would to a
little child & who cannot
understand them even then!"
Kitchener while on the
Peninsula was entirely

 

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opposed, Birdwood says,
to evacuation. He was
firmly set against it at that
time.
One of the things that are
said to be counted against
Birdwood himself on this
political intrigue of a Dardanelles
Commission (so Murdoch
tells me) is that Munro
has reported that of all the
Corps commanders whom
he consulted at the Dardanelles
Birdwood ws the only one
who ws agst evacuation.
& tt when he ws asked for his
reasons they were rather
vague, but chiefly insisted
on the blow to our prestige
in the East.

 

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Well, supposing there had
been the 20 or 25 per cent
losses which everyone expected
(instead of a sort of moral
victory in not losing a man
- or ^losing 5, I think it was) -
supposing we had lost 20,000
even in two or three days
to the Turk, in through running away
- mightn't it have bn a heavy
blow to our prestige. Some
people say it has been
so even now.
These people are very
clever after the event.
_________
At last, today, after 6 months
from the War Office there arrived
that portentous institution's
decision as to my car. After 6
months writing & counter-writing upon

 

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my request that my Govt
shd be allowed to have a
cheaper car than the car
tt I am allowed to have, because
a cheaper ^smaller car wd do quite
well & xxx I am ready to
put up with it - the War
Office (upon reference to the
Commander in Chief - who of course
didn't refuse really decide it)
has given its decision tt I
cannot be permitted to save
this money for the country.
The reason is tt "all press 
correspondents must be put
on an equal footing."
Col. Anderson has therefore
applied for me to have the
large car, just like the others, at 
£11 per week.

 

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I honestly cannot find
an explanation to this - unless
the Censor, possibly, in his
mean little mind thinks I
am trying to take an advantage
& get a car in which I can
run about, in some unexplained
way, more at large & loose
than in a big car - I 
cannot honestly see why the 
War Office has done this. I dont
pretend tt my motives are
always simple or altruistic
- very far from it indeed, as I
know only too well. But in
this case I have been trying
from first to last to avoid
one thing only - & that is the
waste of my governments
money during a war like this.

 

 

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