Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/60/1 - September - October 1916 - Part 2

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9 fact that certain ending to It may not be believed tated but every an on this portal 13 present knows that a bullet wound bre the Shoulder is considered a pinge wth you as not bey for money. a cuohy one + a Plighty. every infantryman cnvees the man who g e a wound like that. and thal is quite compatible with men being prepared to cointe it & fight & die; they wont hesitate to vote a they must o in a thard time of they fener, to others were doing their share too they certainly wod not vote to stand in out of others were going the But men are men tot the result of the wracking Findwords got at Poyceres is to
D 10 Bd D stot a popularity has seffered, w some of them at any rate Hes a 6- of a man, they say, "wante to putas in again. It was to some extent the same after to sugust battle in Gallipoli. Fll the wea do aot clearly distinuict what te are fighting for. The newspapers are part at fault. They speak asercably of the Sousgtn Empire from overseas "come to the acd of the Mether Country& fighting for ot England &the mee many of them, gather Iidea to it is England thy are fighty for 10 notthir idea of world a at sh e against the ferman idea to a treaty is nothing & only might is right It
12 will pass but that i the spirit ofte corps at moment They have a comradeship for Scottesh troope - at Etaples (at the bose), & at the port it is noticeable - but very little for British troops; who have not the Scotsh independence, do not mostly fight I well. Te authorities have, very fooliably, o put as up alonging of tird rate English troops, like an officer of the 615t Devn (at bast, th 15t H.Q. Army told the was Conepts to these were 3rd rale territorials So Russell told me), & only now have te put the New Zealanden in near the Guards. I have no knowledge what other corps are saying probably they are qrumbling at least as mach at their tale. cossibly more. But
short still cne Me Division (Bent shortest the 5157 Bn The nptab o S There are 22,500 remforment in England & at Staples,+ about 16,000 men are needed to fill for each rought 14000 up division. Butthe bout let the out of England wntil they have had a wo tay an th 14 wks traning War Council The german is certainly more Sick of fighting than any- be has more to be sick at Bul the p. Auzac Corps) is the one I know - & the fact is it is not. having enough rest to be abits best if it has to go in again should 9 And coming back. find to te impression everywhen is to it wih have t so back about th 22nd or 2ord of October. Ie m have seen the Et (Brilish) Dwvn just our (6th Devn Sent South over thei line I partly took the Bril Din they know t en the Somone wt Battle at the stait + was batly catap. If that Devn they aryue aga thy i is
THE ARGUS. WEDNESDAY. 10 37 DF AHLNU Magnificent Achievement UCCESSCROWNSEFFO Eight with Knives and Revolvers We are no knives + few revolvers LONDON, An & (ineb tenleP Toe Par corpendent of the Cestr p o Asenry teleeaphs that Anstralian and Kent troops hare advanced on the Pomeres platean, in the direction of Mar Enpeich. The Amees he m to the fishting on Sonday. They firmt trenches shirting the Baname road against the attacks of three faron and Rrnring reents Both ades lat heavily in Raile and revolver fighting, but the colonral roold not gield, and their marnificent reast tnce cnabled a Brisisl attack the paccy on the left Han tomaof to a north vererty di The British pounterattacks west of Poneres then parled the Germans back to their trenche, and enlarged the gains towards Thiepral. The German lon were beariest Mill and Hill 18. Here thre battalions advancing in echeloe were mown down by the obligue fire of the British gunners and the German remnant wurried back in disorder. This gove the rinal for a fine, dashing attack by the men of Kent and the Annes who brilliant carried two times of trenches and advanced Brards on the planes, in the direction of Bertopoh An anny order hned cardt found on prisoners said:—Yon mad all casts recaptore the Ponores the Brinsh retain it, it will gve them raluable advantage It must be retate forthwith. Our troop who frst guin foothold on it must maintain their ground. wbelever the merifice, pending the arrival of reinforeements Any officer or min vh. does not resist to the deat Iwo aicts triod by court mera. AUSTRALIAN SUCCESS. Of Great importance. fort Evening World pab Ach from the British from erms of commendation of trai to te shorge bot in su ounder wred Then they otorc ands back er & H omand bomb pre Antralin BuTLE 20d th ae mytorrart Anzac Fights Seven Germans. Rive Killed; Twe Captared. Aamanter roodd orch of Pomere wmb po of fo hame ate i AUSTR WAR EN
15 AUGUST 9. 80 02 1916. 5 535 2.& 5 02 85 55 5 85E 32 38 85 EE8CDPOSA.-TA ar orD 28 81 32 B.+F Tap 526 520 ENT 89 33 3325 263 83 86 255 28 88 5 E48 85 0 148 042. PSHRAAE E5 0 to 558 t6 shall be in abb a too we mont Cat dareson t someti also may have leaked out I do not know it is fixed of certain at all But there it is 5 & it is not popuber. the tenk is soldiers are not the fictions which was correspondets have made of them, but ordinary human men. And for an ordivary man, feeling as men wd feel after Pogures, to go into it again in spite of their natural state of mind & to do all they wd do is a hundred times finer than the heroics that have been written in the past. I 15 popular to write the sort of rubbist on the opposite rage about soldiers Not one word of all this cuttin from the Ctablly Argus 1 true- except the American quotation, curiously enough. If the sentered
Observer sund. Octobe 131 GERMANS. DISCRIMINATING PRAISE OF THE ALLLES. AMSTERDAM, Saturday. The correspondent of the Berliner Tage- blatt on the Western front, after referring to the abundant stores of munitions of the Allies, says :- It is not only the German soldier who ex- periences terrible hours under fire. Germans hurl on their enemy a sufficient abundance of destructive shells. The enemy will every day become better acquainted with the relentless nature of German warfare. The front if swollen with munitions, the quantity of German war material is increasing and the new enterprises of the enemy are confronted by con- tinually stronger and more threatening means of resistance. The writer describes with joy what he has, seen of the German curtain fire. He says :— The British soldier is less disciplined than the French, but he does his duty often in too sporting a spirit, but often, however, wildly and fiercely. The Irish join in the fighting ad /uprightly, and desire to have no evil said of them. The Anzacs are brave, strong and expert soldiers.—Renter. 916 undertened. a week of fighten with sap & bomb proceesed the attack which the austialians anyidot a polcans of made unter a vayy bursting shell & an der a blage oun is excepted, the American version is right If the which referred to the weeks sapping an d ah as done volcances of shells ander a bloyen sen, all right) then the Awerican version is lterall carreat - the bombiry excepted. The Austialian soldier is as I have made him in these pages; & if I have faile to show the impress we nobility in him, it is not because it has not impressnd me. It is t shorest inpression I possess & if I canot make others the see it with all defects, lovable & unlovable, thrown in - th it is my powers t are at faut. The cuttery opposite shows what some Sermans think of him. Another
19 German, after Homentieres said speaking of the antiation sons of sheep farmers whom they met there says: We do not like these Austral. ians -s we donot like their faces? I'll be bound they didn't. genaus woulde'd. I can imagine the Anstiation prisoners whom they took 300 or 400 of them wound in & unwounded; I can inagine them being told sharply by a Pussian officer to sabute click their heels & stand to attention. I can just see some of them The British, Canadians N. Zealanders have made great advances since Sept. 15 when they went foud about a mite. The fermans seeined
20 withdraw very far from some parts of attact when the Cauad cans advanced patiels went almost up to Yourepas (I think it was, NE of pandcourt, anyw The canadians have certaing done very well - got more possoners than we & advanced much further. But then we were never given anything but an isolated sectional advance to make their attacks, on the contrary have been Htacks Or the whole length of the time or nearly the whole of it - part of a general advance. (That means everything -n make all the difference. It has enatler thm to get to to open country. I to a sort of warpre of ah we dever had a taste. Our
21 was of the Verdun you from fers to last The suspicion abute has be very evident in the meads of our staff of of many in the lines that the fermans are clearing out - are going to retreat fom here to to Regian border or to the Maestrick & Sedan Aine in order C have troops enough for their offensive in the East. They want to ha tak the initiative again. to attack. Hundenbarg has been put into Talkenhayns place, & he is credited wit stanum a heavy crushing blow agit Kumanig to teach a lesson to Sma all youn, nations who take up arus apt fermany in t belief to she is losing. He

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to face that certain ending.

It may not be believed later,

but every man on this front at

present knows that a single bullet

wound thro' the shoulder is

considered a prize wh you cd

not buy for money: a "cushy"

one - a "Blighty" - every

infantryman envies the man

who goes home w a wound

like that.

And that is quite compatible

with men being prepared to go into

it & fight & die; they won't

hesitate to vote tt they must go

in a third time if they knew tt

others were doing their share too;

they certainly wd not vote to stand

out if others were going in.

But men are men; & the

results of the wracking wh they

got at Pozieres is tt Birdwoods

 

 

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Angel

The 2nd Bde signaller, Angel,

who ws shot in the

spine at Poz., but took

on [[?is]] message to an

officer, afterwards died.

He got no decoration at all,

I believe.

[* Later.

Wrong. He is alive.

CEW.B

3.9.26 *]

 

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popularity has suffered. w

some of them at any rate.

"He's a b____ of a man,"

they say, "wants to put us in

again". It was to some extent

the same after the August battle in

Gallipoli.

All the men do not

clearly distinguish what they

are fighting for. The newspapers

are partly at fault. They speak

invariably of the "Sons of the Empire"

"from overseas" "come to the aid

of the Mother Country" & "fighting

for old England"- & the men,

many of them, gather t idea tt it

is England they are fighting for, &

not for their idea o t world as 

it shd be & fighting against the

German idea tt a treaty is nothing

& only might is right. - It

 

 

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will pass - but that is the

spirit of the corps at t moment.

They have a comradeship for

Scottish troops - at Etaples, (at the

base), & at the front it is

noticeable - but very little

for British troops, who have

not the Scottish independence, &

do not mostly fight so well. The

Brit authorities have, very

foolishly, often put us up alongside

of third rate English troops, like

the 61st Divn (at least an officer of the 1st

Army H.Q. told the War Conspts tt

these were 3rd rate territorials,

so Russell told me); & only now

have they put the New Zealanders

in near the Guards.

I have no knowledge if

what other corps are saying;

probably they are grumbling

at least as much at their fate -

possibly more. But tt is their

 

 

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The Divisions are still short -

the 51st Bn is the shortest. (By the

xxx a prisoner reported tt abt 60 men

of There are 22,500 reinforcements

in England & at Etaples, & about

16,000 men are needed to fill

up - roughly 4000 for each

division. But they wont let them

out of England until they have had a

14 wks training - they are under the

War Council.

 

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The German is certainly more

sick of fighting than any - he

has more to be sick at. But

the 1st Anzac Corps is the one I

know - & the fact is it is not

having enough rest to be at its

best if it has to go in again shortly.

And, coming back, I

find tt the impression everywhere

is tt it will have to go back

about the 22nd or 23rd of

October. The men have seen

the 4th (British) Divn just

sent south - our 4th Divn

partly took over their line - T

they know tt the 4th (Brit) Divn

ws badly cut up in the Somme

Battle at the start & was

badly cut up. If that Divn

is in they again, they argue,

 

 

Newspaper clipping pinned across diary pages 15 - 16

 

THE ARGUS, WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 9, 1916.

STAND BY ANZACS

Magnificent Achievement

SUCCESS CROWNS EFFORT

Fight with Knives x and Revolvers

x we use no knives & few revolvers.

LONDON, Aug 8.

The Paris correspondent of the Central

News Agency telegraphs that Australian

and Kent troops have advanced on the

Pozieres plateau, in the direction of Martinpuich.

"The Anzacs," he says, "won fresh glory

in the fighting on Sunday. They firmly held

trenches skirting the Bapaume road against

the attacks of three Saxon and Bavarian

regiments. Both sides lost heavily in knife

and revolver fighting, but the colonials

would not yield, and their magnificent resistance

enabled a British unit to attack the

enemy on the left flank, and drive them off

in a north-westerly direction. The British

counter-attacks west of Pozieres then

hurled the Germans back to their trenches,

and enlarged the gains towards Thiepval.

"The German losses were heaviest at

Pozieres Mill and Hill 160. Here three

enemy battalions advancing in echelon,

were mown down by the oblique fire of the

British gunners, and the German remnant

scurried back in disorder. This gave the

signal for a fine, dashing attack by the men

of Kent and the Anzacs, who brilliantly

carried two lines of trenches and advanced

200 yards on the plateau in the direction of 

Martinpuich.

An army order issued by General Below

found on prisoners said:- "You must at

all costs recapture the Pozieres plateau. If

the British retain it, it will give them a

valuable advantage. It must be retaken

forthwith. Our troops who first gain a

foothold on it must maintain their ground,

whatever the sacrifice, pending the arrival

of reinforcements. Any officer or man who

does not resist to the death will be immediately

tried by court-martial."

           _____________________

AUSTRALIAN SUCCESS.

Of Great Importance.

The New York "Evening World" publishes

a despatch from the British front

which speaks in terms of commendation of

the work of the Australians in the charge

on Friday.

"For days, " it says, "they had been holding

grimly the village of Pozieres under a

tornado of German shells. Then they

charged over a two-mile front, sweeping

the Germans several hundred yards back. 

"The opinion at headquarters is that

the value of the gain cannot be estimated.

A week fighting with sap & bomb preceded

the attack, *which the Australians

made amidst a volcano of bursting shells

and under a blazing sun. They streamed

into the trenches, and were digging forward

with pick and spade."

       ______________________

Anzac Fights Seven Germans.

Five Killed; Two Captured.

A sergeant-major wo was wounded in

the fighting north of Pozieres on Friday

relates a remarkable piece of fighting by

an Anzac.

"An Australian'"  he says, "was knocked

down by seven Germans, who disarmed

him. A mate of the Anzac arrived in the

nick of time, and, singlehanded, fought the

seven Germans. He killed five with his

hands, and made the remaining two

prisoners."

         ___________________________

 

 

 

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Newspaper clippings folded

AUGUST 9, 1916.

THE ARGUS, WEDNESDAY

ANZACS

 

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We too shall be in abt a

month later. I daresay

tt something also may have

leaked out - I do not know if

it is fixed or certain at all.

But there it is; & it is not popular.

The truth is soldiers are

not the fictions which war 

correspondents have made

of them, but ordinary human

men. And for an ordinary

man, feeling as men

wd feel after Pozieres, to

go into it again in spite

of their natural state

of mind & to do all they

wd do is a hundred

times finer than the

heroics that have been

written in the past. It

is popular to write

the sort of rubbish

on the opposite page

about soldiers.

Not one word of all

this cutting from the

Argus is literally true - except

the American.

quotation, curiously

enough. If the sentence

 

 

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Observer.

Sund. October 1st 1916

Newspaper clipping

GERMANS.

DISCRIMINATING PRAISE OF THE 

ALLIES.

_______

AMSTERDAM, Saturday.

The correspondent of the "Berliner Tageblatt"

on the Western front, after referring

to the abundant stores of munitions of the

Allies, says :-

"It is not only the German soldier who

experiences terrible hours under fire. Germans

hurl on their enemy a sufficient abundance of

destructive shells. The enemy will every day

become better acquainted with the relentless

nature of German warfare. The front is

swollen with munitions, the quantity of

German war material is increasing and the new

enterprises of the enemy are confronted by

continually stronger and more threatening means

of resistance."

The writer describes with joy what he has

seen of the German curtain fire. He says :-

"The British soldier is less disciplined than

the French, but he does his duty often in too

sporting a spirit, but often, however, wildly

and fiercely. The Irish join in the fighting

uprightly and desire to have no evil said of

them. The Anzacs are brave, strong and

expert soldiers." - Reuter.

 

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underlined : "a week of fighting

with sap & bomb preceeded the

attack which the Australians

made under a blazing amidst a volcano of

bursting shell & under a blazing

sun" - is excepted, the American

version is right. If the "which"

referred to the weeks sapping

(wh ws done under amidst volcanoes

of shells & under a blazing

sun, all right) then the

American version is literally

correct - the bombing excepted.

The Australian soldier is

a I have made him in these

pages; & if I have failed to

show the impressive nobility

in him, it is not because it

has not impressed me. Tt is the

strongest impression I possess  

- & if I cannot make others

see it, with all the defects, lovable

& unlovable, thrown in - then it

is my powers tt are at fault. The

cutting opposite shows what some

Germans think of him. Another

 

 

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German, after the Armentieres

raid, speaking of the Australians

"sons of sheep farmers" whom

they captured met there says:

"we do not like these Australians -

we do not like their

faces." I'll be bound they

didn't. Germans wouldn't.

I can imagine the Australian

prisoners whom they took -

300 or 400 of them, wounded

& unwounded; I can imagine

them being told sharply by a

Prussian officer to salute &

click their heels & stand to

attention. I can just see

some of them.

The British, Canadians,

& N.Zealanders have made

great advances since Sept. 15

when they went forwd about

a mile. The Germans seemed

 

 

 

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to withdraw very far

from some parts o t attack

when the Canadians advanced;

partrols arent almost up

to Maurepas (I think it

was, NE of Grand Court, anyway).

The Canadians have certainly

done very well - got more

prisoners than we & advanced

much further. But then we

were never given anything

but an isolated sectional

advance to make; their

attacks, on the contrary

have been during attacks by

the whole length of the line or

nearly the whole of it - part of a

general advance. That

means everything - makes 

all the difference. It has [[?]]

them to get thro' to open

country. & to a sort of warfare

of wh we never had a taste. Ours

 

 

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was of the Verdun type from

first to last.

The suspension already arose

has bn very evident in the

minds of our staff & of many

in the lines that the Germans

are clearing out - are going

to retreat from here to

the Belgian border or to

the Maestricht Sedan line

in order to have troops

enough for their offensive

in the East. They want to

take have the initiative again - to

attack; Hindenburg has been

put into Falkenhayns place;

& he is credited with planning

a heavy crushing clow agst

Rumania to teach a lesson to

all young small nations who take

up arms agt Germany

in t belief tt she is losing. He

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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