Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/59/1 - September 1916 - Part 7

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10 67 to dock at Pymont or somewhere an 1 Channel. And see ws returning from there actually one day out of port (but yoing of course by a pony rout when the Iulans fighe occurred sence than she bas peetap such good larget practing to Admical has specially congrotulate her - very creditable (1 or some such appreciative phrase; wh is very rare in the Navy - the has to content herself with that. She is a happier ship than sher was; b the wort pumblers in the ship have been weeded out. I with they ao man her with Austalians entirely Howcon its to N. Gealand I am speaking of Work told me to they were on one of their ordinary cruised not aware that anythig out o asect s on 1air. They used to
68 ars abl a good deal outside at one time much more than of late. Submarmes waited for them habitual outuide but didn't git them There ws one old ferman submari they waed to call him Biby whose special job seemed to be to watch the fleet in the Dorth. They oed to say to be speed on them all days except Saturday when I crew went down to Edinburgh for an evening, at the mussc halls. I suppose treas German submearnes habitually landed wer on coast & took them offagain on those days. Bat the patrots are so thick o active noa that they cannot come up to the For to Bridge in I warything used to do well, they were at tea in wardsoom when the
69 newe came down. The shis "two on the hovsson, believed to be enemy crasers. These reports bed, of course. often come before, o one believed tha thes was any more likely to be correct. But they all went to their battle stations - o within about 5 minutes they were actually fighting - so worth said I daresay the time was actually longer. But with ships approaching each other on opposite courses at abt 30 mchs an hour it does not. take long to you battle Tirst you see the smoke & the toks of the maste almost sd creighton. But before you tis lao
can tern round, when you look again there are the fannels + masts & appexworks. The gunaus have always begin firing at very tong ra and bi did so this time. It has been one o surpring of war We have bigie guns jast as we are giking to to ther we thank 1o our extreng range in comes their first salvo. Stik it has bee so in a buos &even t action. Their guas are califiate for very ley ranges &ours have been calibrated for ocly an averege sange $10,000 yards of thereabouts. You see cach gun has slight individuably of its own, s they cant wake tem all exactly alike; in spite of the exactiess of modern manufacture there are slight differences between one gun and another well, when you all the gans together are handly
71 as you do in a by ship from the fire control posite - one officer handling a fermng the lot - you must have some definite al relation established between the fenrs. So the first thing we do when a shep is completed is to take her out & test her gans with a view. to shots for makne brnig all her together a definate range you you you arrange the laying 50 te for that at $10,000 y0s, say wery in a salvo fall together. Calto ond gun aaly not have exactly the same slevation an the oun nex it, owny to varcatis in the puns). That is called calibrating well the germans calibate their yous at Ext vanges. and teir guns are very accurate. It has been noticed t507 stimes I first thing to you know of a ferman cruised are ter four shells
72 falling alongsids of you in a beautiful live- like that (M) our juns V not fire so accurately do salvos spread a bit at a ovr long range. That is because ourguns are wound of of their are were built up. I has been cheapen make were wound guns that to today, to get the strengthn by winding miles of steel tape round bei than by building the gan uep on the trupp process by sprinking one tube over another iube. Oar government has gove in for cheapness there ito result The german fere was exceedingg accurate at st the beginning of the action. At the very long ranges they started off remarkably well Tereer in their lite & sex five ships
1 this right report whan 73 in ours 50 by orders. a tackled the fourt shep in teir line. We fot four salv & had straddled her properly so that the hext salvo ought hy have got her. when the ship behievd as in our line blew I think it was the Invuncibley, up & we had to shift our fire onto the last ship in their line. I think our first salvd mest have got her. The fermans had done very well up to this time. Within twenty arm. utes of starting the action we had seen the Creen Mary, the Indefatigable, & the Invincible blown up. We went almost the ough the Debois of the & the Tiger Eveen Mary (I think [it was) head to swerveto port get out of her way - the oswerved the other one way & we ina toen 14. The sente
54 ous cloud of black smoke The tiis plups straight into this smote cloud & for 10 seconds was in absolute set darkness they coult varcely 5 to we passed the Eveen Mary her stern was s sticking out of the water - there was another exobsion & it disappeared. ships when they blew up simply apened out + sank. We saw them all go The Indiftigables picket boat was the only part of her recognisable in the Explosion we saw it go up about $500 feet, turning over over until it fell. That was at in the firat half ou twenty minutes. ar so They must by each have got a shell into their magagines The Fermans saw it all because
they had as standing out against the light while then were in a hage. To to we ed sometimes only see them by I flastes of their juns battle The Jerman tulls when we came upon them had turned & were making back for their fleet. MDoubt the were doing what they intender to do - leading us towards their man fleet all the time wh wd be coming up it ar work at full speed to catch us. Our admerals intention always was to havg out ermans & bring on an action between I man batth fleets it he could. The blowing up of them of his cruisers did not setn his clente in Ileast. He altered course a little so as to close w 1. Germans Slyhll
76 We were steaming along now on a parallel course when we noticed to fermans were not firing at us as they had been doing. The ship opposite us was scarcily firng at all. That was te first indication we had to we had bu hitting them They did not lose thei masts or funnels - they did not blow up tt There wa nothing much by wh you ad tell whether you were betting -except just the fact & they were firing much lesss& their shells, when they came fell mach more wildly. you adsee the salvos leave their ships. The men on watch for them od ser four little black specks which kept growing & srowin

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off to dock at Plymouth or
somewhere in / Channel.
And she ws returning from there
- actually only one day out of
port (but going of course by a long
route) when the Jutland fight
occurred.
Since than she has put up
such good target practise tt /
Admiral has specially congratulated
her - “very creditable” or
some such appreciative phrase,
wh is very rare in the Navy - &
she has to content herself with
that. She is a happier ship than
sher was; but the worst grumblers
in the ship have been weeded out.
I wish they cd man her with
Austalians entirely-
However its to N. Zealand
I am speaking of.
North told me tt they were
on one of their ordinary cruises
not aware that anythig out o /
usual ws in / air. They used to
 

 

10   68
cruise abt a good deal
outside at one time - much
more than of late. Submarines
waited for them habitually
outside but didn't get them.
There ws one old German submarine
- they wanted to call him Fritz-
whose special job seemed to
be to watch the fleet in the
Forth. They used to say tt he
spied on them all days except
Saturday when / crew went
down to Edinburgh for an
evening, at the music halls.
I suppose treas German
submarines habitually
landed men on coast & took
them off again on those days.
& the patrols are so thick &
active now that they cannot
come up to the Forth Bridge
in / way they used to do.
-well, they were
at tea in / wardroom when the
 

 

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newe came down. there
it was " Two cruisers ships on the 
horizon, believed to be enemy
cruisers."
These reports had, of
course. often come before, & no
one believed that this was any
more likely to be correct. But
they all went to their battle
stations - & within about
5 minutes they were
actually fighting - so North said.
I daresay the time was actually
longer. But with ships
approaching each other on
opposite courses at abt 30
miles an hour it does not
take long to join battle.
"First you see the smoke
& the tops of the masts,"
sd Creighton. "But ^almost before you

any time has passed
 

 

10   70
can turn round, when you look
again there are the funnels &
masts & upperworks- 
The Germans have always
begin firing at xxxxxxx very
long range- and they did so this
time. It has been one o  / surprises
of war We have bigger guns
& just as we are getting to what
we think is our extreme range
in comes their first salvo. I think
it has been so in almost every
battle action. Their guns are
calibrated for very long ranges
& ours have been calibrated
for only an average range-
10,000 yards or thereabouts.
You see each gun has some
slight individuality of its own,
xxx they cant make them all
exactly alike; in spite of the exactness
of modern manufacture there are
slight differences between one gun
and another. Well, when you
are handling all the guns together
 

 

10      71           
as you do in a by ship from the
fire control positn - one officer
handling & firing the lot - you
must have some definite
relation ^already established between
the guns. So the first thing
we do when a ship is completed
is to take her out & test
her guns with a view to
bringing making all her guns shots ^fall together.

a definite range you you
you arrange the laying so
that at 10,000 yds, say, every the four
shots in a salvo fall together;
(altho'  one gun may will not have
exactly the same elevation as the
gun next it, owing to variations
in the guns). That is called calibrating.
well the Germans calibrate
their guns at extreme long ranges
and their  guns are very
accurate. It has been noticed
tt sometimes / first thing tt
you know of a German
cruiser are her four shells
 

 

10     72
falling alongside of you in
a beautiful line- like that
Diagram-see original

our guns
do not fire so accurately
salvos spread a bit at a
long range.

Diagram-see original
That is because
our guns are
"wire-wound"  & theirs are
"built up."  It has been cheaper
to build make wire wound guns
-that to today, to get the strength
by winding miles of steel tape
round them -than by building
the gun up, on the Krupp process,
by shrinking one tube over another
tube. Our government has
gone in for cheapness - &
there is the result.
"The German fire was
exceedingly accurate at first. The
beginning of the action. At the
very long ranges they started off
remarkably well. There were 
five ships in their line & six
 

 

? Is this right

or is my 

report wrong. 
 

10     73
in ours- so by orders, we
tackled the fourth ship in their
line. We first  fired four salvos
& had straddled her properly
so that the next salvo ought to
have got her, when the ship
behind as in our line blew
up" (I think it was the Invincible)
& we had to shift our fire onto
the last ship in their line.
"I think our first salvo
must have got her. The
Germans had done very well
up to this time. Within twenty minutes

 of starting the action we
had seen the Queen Mary, the
Indefatigable, & the Invincible
blown up. We went almost
the through the Debris of the
Queen Mary; & the Tiger"
(I think it was) "head to
swerve to port get out
of her way - the Tiger swerved
one way & we the other.

The Q.M. went up in a tremendous
 

 

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cloud of black smoke.
The Tiger plunged straight into this
smoke cloud & for 10 seconds
was in absolute set darkness
so that they could scarcely

see. As we passed the
Queen Mary her stern
was still  sticking out of the
water - there was another
explosion & it disappeared.

" The Indefatigable ships
when they blew up simply

opened out & went down
sank. We saw them all go
The Indefatigables picket boat
was the only part of her
recognisable in the Explosion
we saw it go turning over up
about 500 feet, turning over
over until it fell.
That was at in the first 
half hour twenty minutes. or so
They shells  must each have got
a shell into ^one of their magagines
The Germans saw it all because
 

 

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they had us standing out
against the light while then
were in a haze. So tt we
cd sometimes only see them
by I flashes of their guns
"The German ^ battle cruisers
when we came upon them
had turned & were making
back for their fleet. No Doubt the
were doing what they intended
to do - leading us towards
their man fleet all the time
wh wd be coming up for all

it ws worth  at full speed to
catch us. Our admirals
intention always was to hang
onto /  Germans & bring on an
fleet action between / man
battle fleets it he could. The
blowing up of three of his
cruisers did not alter change his
intention in / least. He
altered course a little so as

to close w / Germans slightly
 

 

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"We were steaming along
now on a parallel course
when we noticed tt / Germans
were not firing at us as
they had been doing. The
ship opposite us was scarcely
firing at all. That was the
first indication we had tt
we had bn hitting them.
They did not lose their
masts or funnels - they
did not blow up but they
There was nothing much by
wh you cd tell whether
you were hitting -except
just the fact & they were
bot firing much less, &
their shells, when they came
fell much more wildly.
"You cd see the salvos
leave their ships. The men
on watch for them wd see
four little black specks
which kept growing & growing.
 

 

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