Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/59/1 - September 1916 - Part 3

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22 do what he is there for namely, fighteing Ther he leave it off16 order dresses like & a private soldier as the authorities can properly & rygtly make him Somehow the Sam Brown. belt is to me all that 1s worst in the snobbishness of the British Army. It is the secret of the British arry sytem that officers shd be as unlike to & differing from their men as possible. The officer gives great care to his appearance - a comes down the street Shining perfectly groomed
23 acreased & pressed I saw a fellow comay out last week of La Boiselle carrying his ploves! The man comes along looking stocky & tidy with buttons studded over him like brass nails - but on an utterly different pattern from his officer. The ove is piece in laid Louis Quatorze of furniture the other i a wel varuished kitchen Chair. Punch had a picture of the perfect Bitish, officer, fing beaveng, refined face. manner, pinning loft sal first prise a chest of a Scottish on the
24 stood like a private, who well poliche nenepen stiffl at attention besids a trench vegetable "exhibit. The ninepin antomatoni ws bursting with pride & glowing with delight of the honour the lofty officer was absolutely geneie & natural in his loptiness. I sd to an English officer - Your There, thats Carrathers to breed ap your ideal a race of gentemen who a can command who are to race of tommies receive Commands & who would at dream o of disputing that order saw. he things and
25 910 well dont you agree with it He disnt even dream bir was anyone who could guarred with this point of view or prepr another to it Our Hastalian officer are not distinguished by a hond & fast difference an their get up - I mean a its quality of course if is different in pattern from their men. The Iam Brown bett which creates the external distuction a thing which the best 15 Aushalian officer has ratin a contempt. He docsn't distction want the social which if brings - he is against it
26 athor ta for it. His men follow him for what he knows & what he does - & cometin for what he is; not because he i o a soperion social Caste. Tey know very well that in wo you cant conduct a war lke you would a Crades union. The enemy is over there shorting to kil you & you cant staid up & take your var was opinions & settle your diferences befoe you decide what to do. Te only way is to have a man there who is trained to know what to do. to follow him instantly right or wrong. An officer
t 27 who will give a lead thy follow instantly will remember seen three victorians witout an oficer the other day at Edures. Books & I were as shels a Cibzaltar were coming over regularly how a battery of whigz: balngs we had been called into shelter by some machine gunners on the lee side of the concrete entrance. prett The shells whe close, about H every minute or t0 & fnot of the 1415 then three men Bn came along by the open path which almos every one resed (I usednor
28 to) down to the rear. s they passed a shell whizzed by feartull mikly, as they do I exploded in the earth about 15 yares to thei right front. They tooke roun hesitating whether to take cover in a shellhole One began to one way way I another another thought te daresan the fermans cd Ill them. Then they hesitated again. One of the mackine gunner shouted to them on. 0. o0 lads S. Either go on or came in lke here - For Gods
29 dont hesitate there - do one then or the other; don't hecitate in that place. looked at him doubtfull for a moment in walked on (he was, in reality. their comg under in that case gave tham the lead & they took it). the I hesitaty there it quite on the cards, we shoutd have seen one of their heads knocked off the many koolders by the next series of shells. They went I had passed before on next shell came the Hustalian know te need of an officer well eno! when it I canges to fightyg They always look to him; & the relerioos 18
30 between our officers men are jast as perfect as ty ed be to do thim justice are hos of Britih. The Britil officer very seldom lacks divation - the better class of officer the oldd army class to featt at all knox had an interesting bit of Possip fom May. Butter who had it from Lord Kitehig execute coll?) Arthur I don't often put down & this may not ossip but sometow be trut thank it is. It shows the absurd influence that the likes & disnikes of Kings man have on the fortunes of stil
ord 31 nations mediceval nations tike the half cwilise castern ones, anyway. I believe that Fordman of Balgarea had often been anxious to viset England He wel king elward in Paris or somewhere I+ when georp became king it was a question whether Ferolman ought not to be inviled to England. In spite of the ordmary civilities being in favour of it. King george wouldat, if possible, have Ferdmand over. If a forcign monarch comes over you him a vacant have to give Garter ther is on the i order of the Carter (when a

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doing what he is there
for - namely, fighting.
Then he leaves it off, by
order, & dresses ^as like
a private soldier as the
authorities can properly
(& rightly) make him.
Somehow the Sam Brown
belt is to me all that is
worst in the snobbishness of
the British Army.  It is
the Secret of the British Army
System that Officers shd be
as unlike to & different from
their men as possible.
The officer gives great care
to his appearance - &
comes down the street
shining & perfectly groomed

 

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& creased & pressed -
I saw a fellow coming out
of La Boiselle last week
carrying his gloves!  The
man comes along looking
stocky & tidy, with buttons
studded over him like
brass nails - but on
an utterly different pattern
from his officer.  The
one is an inlaid piece
of inlaid X Louis Quatorze
furniture, the other is
a well varnished kitchen
chair.
"Punch" had a picture of
the perfect British, officer,
fine bearing, refined face,
lofty manner, pinning
a medal first prize
on the chest of a Scottish

 

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private, who stood like a
well polished ninepin,
stiffly at attention besides
a trench "vegetable" Exhibit.
The ninepin automaton
ws bursting with pride &
glowing with delight at the 
honour;  the lofty officer was
absolutely genuine & natural
in his loftiness.  I sd to
an English Officer - Young
Carruthers - "There, thats
your ideal - to breed up
a race of office gentlemen who
can command & a 
race of Tommies who are to
can xxxxx receive commands
& who wouldn't dream 
of disputing that order of
things - "  And he said:

 

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"Well - dont you agree with
it?"  He didnt even
dream there was anyone
who could quarrel with
this point of view or prefer
another to it.  
Our Australian officers
are not distinguished
by a hard & fast difference
in their get up - I mean in
its quality;  of course it is
different in pattern -
from their men.  The Sam
Brown belt which creates
the External distinction
is a thing ^for which the best
Australian officer has rather
a contempt.  He doesn't
want the social kudos distinction which
it brings - he is against it

 

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rather than for it.  His men
follow him for what he knows
& what he does - & sometimes
for what he is;  not because
he is of a superior Social
Caste.  They know very well
that in wa you cant
conduct a war like you
would a trades union.
The enemy is over there
shooting to kill you &
you cant stand up &
talk your various opinions
& settle your differences
before you decide what to
do.  The only way is to have
a man there who is trained 
to know what to do;  & 
then to follow him instantly,
right or wrong.  An officer

 

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who will give a lead they
will follow instantly.
I remember seeing
three Victorians without 
an officer the other day
at Pozieres:
Brooks & I were 
at Gibraltar;  & as shells
were coming over regularly
from a battery of whizz-bangs
we had been called into
shelter by some machine
gunners on the lee side
of the concrete entrance.
The shells whizzed pretty
close, about 4 every
minute or two;  & just
then three men of the 14th
Bn came along, going
by the open path which almost
every one used (I used not

 

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to) down to the rear.
As they passed a
shell whizzed by fearfully
quickly, as they do, &
exploded in the earth
about 15 yards to their
right front.
They looked round
hesitating whether to
take cover in a shell hole.
One began to go one way,
another another way - I
daresay they thought the
Germans cd see them.  Then
they hesitated again.  One of
the machine gunners
shouted to them.
"Go on, lads, go on.
Either go on or come in
here - for God's sake

 

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dont hesitate there - do
one thing or the other;  dont
hesitate in that place."
They looked at him
doubtfully for a moment
& then walked on - (he
was, in reality, their
commander in that case;
he gave them the lead & they
took it).  If they had
hesitated there it is quite
on the cards we should
have seen one of their
heads knocked off the mans
shoulders by the next
series of shells.  They went
on & had passed before
the next shell came. 
Australians know the need of an officer well
eno' when it comes to fighting.  They
I had an interesting
always look to him;  & the relations

 

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between our officers & men
are just as perfect as they
cd be. 
So, to do them justice,
are those o / British.  The
British Officer very seldom lacks
direction - the better class of
officer - the older - army class -
knows no fear at all. 
I had an interesting bit
of gossip from Maj. Butler
who had it from Lord Kitcheners
Executor - Col (?) Arthur.
It w I dont often put down
gossip - & this may not
be true;  but somehow I
think it is.  It shows the
absurd influence that the
likes & dislikes of Kings may
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nations - mediaeval notions
like the half civilised Eastern
ones, anyway.
I believe that Ferdinand
of Bulgaria had often been
anxious to visit England.
He met King Edward in
Paris or somewhere;  & when
George became King it was
a question whether Ferdinand
ought not to be invited to
England.  In spite of the
ordinary civilities being in
favour of it, King George
wouldn't, if possible, have
Ferdinand over.  If a foreign
monarch comes over you
have to give him a vacant
order^of the garter if there is one the
order of the Garter (when a

 

 

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