Charles E.W. Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/54/1 July August 1916 pt16

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Written, as usual in haste, & Not fair to Beach Thomas; who has more pluck then I have. It was not any descrovd whateve to them – their job made it necessary, for tem t live far back - they cnt heve Coverd the ground whole pont or got thei nessapes away in time oternese Pewb. 76 mail makes over the Egewitness accounts of its represculative the first occasion when he got within shell sarge in this batthe was when I took him to Frccourt & we didn't stay there long Every one of them is free to come where I do of they want - goodness knows Im careful & nervous enough's but they dowt, of the consquence is I suppose that the don't acteate know what he have been doing In the last three weeks the British have recaptaned DeWille wood; & have got into the Edge of Gillemont except for those two moves the only wnch they have advanced as where we have practically dragged a small portion of them on our flanks cncidentaly to our advance. The only place where there has been movement all the time very heavy fighting & always moveing
197 forward; is where our corps has been put in - Tbey all spoke of this as the hardist not to crack - Pozieres - before we got here. In three weeks we have atterly cracked that nt it has been the sight of the battlefield all the time recking like this whihe movent 26 Elsewhere as been spasnodic. We found the line like this- & we have made it like this and we canl to much farther until the English do something . We have fought the greatest battle an our history o one of the greatest in theirs - but not a suspicion of it would you get from te English papers.
198 Some fortnight ago my despatches to England were surrely stopped. I asked why: & Col. Hulton wilson tod me to it ws because he had at theas oftm seen, I statement to I wa official. corespondent with the A. 1.F otey wdnt allow any exapt news from G.H.Q to be called official I sd this ceasily be altern, & supposed to difficulty. ad all be over in aday on two. However still no despateties appeared So. I wrote to m& saw Col. Witson again. He sd he hadn't heard from I was office as to my states yet - be wanted to know Exactly what it was. I sdd ws 1. Australion foots Eycwitness. He sd he ad were to war Office, & Smard got. Fisher to write to the war office-andd today - by way of a bombeli I received the attached letter. I never dreamed to 1 objections came fson this source - never
199 suspected it for a minute. I have written to John Buchan to ask him not to make any application on my behalf (as I had asked him toJ. But I cannot get over the attitule of this British stationan. It 15gh my experience of politicions all thro One doesst want bd ones private feelings affect oves idea. of what is right or wioz in interest of oves coumbe es cnalatirelsa a the to atteeds disciosed in this letter doee make me tts wonder whether we should not be better in all puture dealings to be independent of tese British people: & allees rather than depending we shd get more respect out of thn we are the stronger race with the stronger morale, at present; some day they will realise to they have to treat us will consideration as our right & not out of courtesy because we shall be strony enough to make they dont it rent ik their while
200 realied how much we do for them. My first article showed I had watched our bombdr from within 80yds of the Germaa trenches, I can help suspectin that this was ane source of the objection. I suppose this is one of my facilities" as a water of fact-any of them cd go there any day if he wanted. But I don't believe. Philip gibbs joind in this protest or whateser it was- I dont believe he wd do so witout speaking to me about it I tigie written asking Buchan if he will write our altack up, as I am not alloised to d0. A heavig boutt tonight apparently against theepoal. I sad thak they wa wait, if possible, antil we were going for mouguet Farm. AUa 1419. Aug 14. The boys on the coffer stall say to at 5 0'c this morning gen. Coks car passed going up to Bde H.Q. Tee finer al had come along half dresser & so had shever. The drive came back immer- cately after & said there had been a counter attack &f germans had retakin some part of the truches Lates on we heard that they
Al6 14 1916 201 had attacked the 50t on the estrems lef & had bn thrown out again of part of a truch wh they Entered by an immdiate coatted today has been shovery Pozceres wer again being recoily Conbarded - I expect to 7ain has stopped this Somewhat. Our heny juns heas been pretty This active This part gets. s shelled from behind Since scalled from direction threpoal. before of Courcelette. snch. I doubt if the c attack ago the 50th ever came off at all. The OC reported to his left coy saw it had had to retirn. What I think t Coy did say ws to the coy on his left had retured. (all subsequ messages b gave this information What happened ws t1 germans cobet the truch of British Bde on have aot ba pasted our flank out. I believe anattempt will be made to doso tought one ws tho but failed, they say made cust in bec of insufficant ary sreparation
202 a0o 14/15 1010 Fers ti 10 pon Arty barrage 10.0 t 10.3 2.10.06 10.5 Ris makes a double? livee of g6 for Re first 3moa ban JAvO 14/15 1916 283 Aug 14 nigh. 13th Bde- Ros. Bn (57) is to advance past Monquet Farn (but to bead its lime back so as to miss the Farm) B Objectie of 51Bn: R28 c 95 -66-36- 24-03-04 -27894-73 & back to 91 incusive. Adeknsive Flank will be thrown back from R 28295, towards R34 a99. Strong Points will be estab at R28c93 R27 d 73-91. 49 Bn will take over line from R. 34 Bry to R34 a 99 linking up with 5782 Objective 13 Bn. R27d91 excl to R33 b48-36 incl. Strong point near R33 p 48 Objective 50 Bn. R 33 p 36 End. in post of Quarry to B33 a81 wil & will make good om pt8 to junct 9 placing slops in botk of abt at 33 40yds didbut fom junction. (Bombardment has started. pant hear any maching ges from up there - several german coloured flares as ssal].
pd 83 368 E 2114 (A0G 14/15. 1916 13 M.G. Coy to bring inderect fire on 204 main commno Commns. R34a 34-35 -91 & R34 a 65 -38 -01 to be made by 4 Roneer Bn. 50 Bn reports at 7.55; from B Coy. We cannot move. We have few tools few bombs no water of men are badly shaken. At present we are deggig anumber out. I have to few men to take up 1 pontage &c. after consulting the Coy. commanders hade dended to remain fast. Am notifying 13th Bn. I Coy after consulting w Capt Cptainitzy Dowlen & Maj. Herbert agrees to it is impossible to advance Present live 81. Quarry -557 We report from lattes commdr states to they have be very heavily Shelledall day - to many men have bu sent away on fatigues & hev returned.
264 8 They are being Combarded nour dent right round 5 IV.W (AUG 14/15 1916 It looks to me if I. ferman having broken I line of the 14515 Bde-next was, last ayht, is intent on counter attacking has been boulbardin in orderto attack come time toought. Hhe army is using us in an extraordinar way to make a sort of book around the ferman posite at Theepval – & the Germans broke tho! such dapport as 1. Bretish have 4 groin as by them attack last night (marked with an arrow.e The Ross. ColofS1 – writes that the (.O. of Bth thinks & it is his (Ross) genenn (not depressed) opinion that it would be a mistake to press the offencive in this salient locally further of The communications are awful. The boys are shelig it will. Water & ration carrying are most precarious. The boys are sticking it well but a most conjested & it will be most difficult to deploc tought 205
(AUG 1AA5 1916 206 Donot wony abt us but we want water always. Our arty are bombarding our front tuuches (Heavies). 12.15. Report srrives (up to 9.30) from 30 Bn H.D British report A German Combers are in R33 A81 & bombiy up Commn Mt R33d28 A gloncester officer wo 20men had arrived alt 7.30. Da his way to boub down from 81(w bombers & M-gunners). Bloy Maj Herbert not get found wh13 psolated. up wD Coy- Capt smit in charge of I coghes 3en to him 1/2 of whom are anstoalions, balence ox fordaturs men. D coy had? hewie juns. New from 50 Bnth 1. am verbal reports, say to the 50th had gone out on the right but met as heavy my. Iart fire & had to come back arty say Con what pounds I dont know th M.9. fire ws not heavy, but gunfire was.

Written, as usual, in haste, &
Not fair to Beach Thomas, who has more 
pluck than I have.
x It was not any discredit
^whatever to them - their job made
it necessary for them to live
far back - they can't have
covered the ground  whole
front or got their messages
away in time otherwise.
C.EW.B.  
 

x   196
mail makes over the Eyewitness
accounts of its representative
aso of the first occasion when he
got within shell range in this battle
was when I took him to Fricourt
& we didn't stay there long.
Every one of them is free to
come where I do if they want - &
goodness knows I'm careful &
nervous enough; but they don't,
& the consequence is I suppose
that they dont actually know
what we have been doing.
In the last three weeks
the British have recaptured
Delville Wood; & have got
into the Edge of Gillemont.
Except for those two moves
the only inch they have
advanced is where we have
practically dragged a small
portion of them on our flanks
incidentally to our advance.
The only place where there has
been movement all the time,
very heavy fighting & always movement 
 

 

197
forward, is where our Corps
has been put in - They all
spoke of this as the hardest
nut to crack - Pozieres - before
we got here. In three weeks
we have utterly cracked that nut
-it has been the fight of the 
battlefield while all the time
[diagram - see original document]
reeking like this-
while movement 
elsewhere
has been spasmodic. We found
the line like this → Diagram- see original document.
& we have made
it like this ↓
[diagram - see original document]
and we cant go much farther
until the English do something - We
have fought the greatest battle
in our history & one of the greatest
in theirs - but not a suspicion
of it would you get from the
English papers. 

 

9   198
Some fortnight ago my despatches
to England were suddenly stopped.
I asked why, & Col. Hutton Wilson
told me tt it was because he had
seen ^at the head of them the statement tt I was "Official"
correspondent with the A.I.F. -
& they won't allow any except
of news from G.H.Q to be
called official.
I sd this is easily be
altered, & supposed tt the
difficulty wd all be over in
a day or two.
However still no
despatches appeared so I
wrote to Mr Fisher Smart & saw Col.
Wilson again. He sd he hadn't
heard from the war office as to my
status yet - he wanted to know
Exactly what it was . I sd I
ws the Australian Govts Eyewitness.
He sd he wd wire to the War Office,
& Smart got Fisher to write to the
War Office - and tod
Today - by way of a bomb shell
-I received the attached letters.
I never dreamed tt the objections 
came from this source - never 

 

9  199
suspected it for a minute.
I have written to John Buchan
to ask him not to make any
application on my behalf (as I
had asked him to). But I
cannot get over the attitude
of this British Statesman. It
is hard engh my experience of
politicians all thro'.
One doesn't want to drag let
ones private feelings affect ones
idea of what is right or wrong in
the public interest of ones country;
 but but it acts cumulatively; and,
the attitude disclosed in
this letter does make me think
wonder whether we should not
be better in all future dealings
to be independent of these British
people; & allies rather than dependants;
we shd get more respect out of them so
We are the stronger race with the
stronger morale, at present; &
some day they will realise tt they
have to treat us with consideration
as our right & not out of courtesy -
because we shall be strong enough to make it
worth their while. They dont at present

 

9   200
realise how much we do for them.
My first article showed I had watched
our bombdt. from within 80yds of the
German trenches. I cant help suspecting
that this was one source of the objection.
I suppose this is one of my "facilities".
As a matter of fact any of them cd go
there any day if he wanted. But
I don't believe Phillip Gibbs joined
in this protest or whatever it was - I
dont believe he wd do so without
speaking to me about it.
I have written asking Buchan if he will write
our attack up, as I am not allowed to do so.
A heavy bombt tonight,
apparently against Thiepval. I
shd think they wd wait, if possible,
until we were going for Mouquet 
Farm.
AUG 14  1916
Aug 14. The boys on the coffee stall
say tt at 5 o'c. this morning Gen.
Cox's car passed going up to Bde
H.Q. The General had come along
half dressed & so had the driver.
The driver came back immediately 
after & said there had been
a counter attack & the Germans had
retaken some part of the trenches.
Later on we heard that they 

 

9  AUG 14   1916      201
had attacked the 50th on the extreme
left & had bn thrown out again
of part of a trench wh they
entered by an immediate c.attack
Today has been showery.
Pozieres was again being
heavily bombarded - I expect the
rain has stopped this 
somewhat. Our heavy
guns have been
pretty active since
before lunch.
[diagram - see original document]
This part gets shelled from direction of Courcelette.
This part gets shelled from behind Thiepval.
I doubt if the c. attack agst
the 50th ever came off at all.
The O.C. reported tt his left coy said
it had had to retire. What I think
the O.C. Coy did say ws tt the coy on his
left had retired. (all subsequent
messages wer gave this information)
[*145th*] What happened was tt the Germans
got into the trench of British Bde on
our flank. I have not bn pushed
out. I believe an attempt will
be made to do so tonight. One ws
made last night but failed; they say,

bec. of insufficient arty preparation.

 

202  AUG 14/15  1916
[diagram - see original document]
[diagram - see original document]
Zero time 10 pm.
Arty barrage
10.0 to 10.3.  2.10.0 to 10.5
(this makes a Double ? lines of
barrage for The first 3 [[?miss]]) 
  

AUG 14/15  1916  203
Aug 14 night. 13th Bde - Ross' Bn (51)
is to advance past Mouquet Farm
(but to bend its line back so as to
miss the Farm). 
[diagram - see original document]
Objective of 51Bn: R28c  95-66-36-
24-03-04-27d94-73 &
back to 91 inclusive.
A defensive flank will be thrown
back from R28 c 95 towards
R34 a99.
Strong Points will be estab. at R28c93
R27d73-91.
49Bn will take over line from R34B24
to R34a99 linking up with 57Bn.
Objective 13 Bn.  R27d91 excl. to
R33b 48-36 incl. Strong point
near R33 b 48.
Objective 50Bn.  R33 b 36 excl. in front
of Quarry to 33a81 incl & will
make good / trench from pr81 to junctn
at 33 c 69. placing stops in both ∧ trenches & abt
40 yds distant from junction.
[Bombardment has started. Cant hear any
machine guns from up there - several
German coloured flares as usual]

 

[diagram - see original document]
9  204
AUG 14/15  1916     
13 M.G. Coy to bring in direct fire on
main commns.
Commns. R34a 34-35-91 &
R34 a 65-38-01 to be
made by 4 Pioneer Bn.
50 Bn reports at 7.55. from B Coy.
We cannot move. We have few
tools few bombs no water & the men
are badly shaken. At present
we are digging a number out. I
have too few men to take up
the frontage & after consulting the
coy commanders have decided
to remain fast. Am notifying
13th Bn.
Capt Armitage D. Coy after consulting w Capt
Fowler & Maj. Herbert agrees
tt it is impossible to advance.
[Present line 81 - Quarry - 55]
The report from latter commds
states tt they have bn very heavily
shelled all day. tt many men
have bn sent away on fatigues
& few returned. 

 

9  AUG 14/15   1916   205  
It looks to me as if the German
having broken the line of the 145th
Bde next to us, last night, is
intent on counter attacking &
has attacked us been bombarding
in order to do this attack some
time tonight.
The army is using us in an
extraordinary way to make a
sort of hook around the German
position at Thiepval - & the Germans 
broke thro' such support
as the British have
[diagram - see original document]
given us by their
attack last night (marked
with an arrow. They
The 
[Ross. Cd of 51st - writes that the C.O. of
13th thinks it is his (Ross') genuine
(not depressed) opinion that it
would be a mistake to press
the offensive in this salient locally
further. The communications
[*They are being bombarded from due E right round to N.W*]
are awful. The boys are sticking
it well.  Water & ration carrying
are most precarious. The boys
are sticking it well but a most
congested & it will be most
difficult to deploy tonight.

 

9  AUG 14/15  1916   206
Do not worry abt us but we
want water always. Our arty
are bombarding our front trenches
(Heavies)..
12.15. Report arrives (up to 9.30) from
50 Pou H.Q.
British report tt German
bombers are in R33 A 81
& bombing up comms  trenches to R33d28
A Gloucester officer w 20 men
had arrived at 7.30 on his way
to bomb down from 81 (.w ^his bombers
& m.gunners).
Maj. Herbert B Coy not yet joined
up w D.Coy. wh is isolated. Capt Smith in
charge of D coy has 23 men w him
1/3 of whom are Australians, balance
Oxfordshire men. D Coy had 2
Lewis guns.

1.am. News verbally from 50 Bn tt
verbal reports say tt the 50th
had gone out on the right but
met as heavy m.g. & arty fire
& had to come back.
Arty. say (on what grounds
I dont know) tt m.g. fire ws
not heavy, but gunfire was. 

 
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