Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/188/1 - July 1918 - Part 1

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First World War, 1914–18
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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of CE W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606/18817 Title: Notebook, July 1978 includes references to the 43rd Battalion Hamel, various generals and repatriation. AWMISS-SDRLCOGHSS
Original ER 300L 606 An 38 DLARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914- 1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’'s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so — but it does not follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discevered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind. AUSTRTL V A SRIAI C. E. W. BEAN. 16 Sept, 1946. ACCLSD te LMN CTEI 3rd Hamel
me wh a snccess Teha W iterepangatte, Repatiiation tho be stalf hs my to find out what is been done in Ay ferm France st to wondey for Repatriation. All Commris you ad send t cale a lay if wond ston crtificial timbs. The stapinstis, co shd be sent from herg 5086une steffs on board ship. Where idliness t largely learn Epectures on leave Geaterston from anst Shdbe examined by a board of arteny wellp $20000 man; every man shd sign an Dralso attenation papes I there shd she a please Expting to case of men who are retur
8 B0 Happear. Final 2 Fudge of 2 Pensions ood of sugeon Pysecian absopulity aser fom politics. must to appointed for 6 year, ao Board 7 as tl coans in rfor. to settle appeals on paper By gueatie is identily queate of Administor By honash std to to tust. at end responsibility there. on w A11t. toat ed Entablishing of Austlia atter war
Bobt The best generals were those who h had thought for therselves a all for Autiate who wd not risk a stant for personal story. Who had so ulterion motive for appt So&to & keeping in t 500s - but jast acte by one creed - what That a right for Ayst smptified things v. Mich Batty 6thDi veway August St Horse also of Irish gave near Rowselle. d in ser ben a 21st Dron at Speby bel.
43 Bn Hamel. Objec - Hamel -whole of it. Had to move just Nop Dear French Started to mooe onto tapes at 12 & were all ready o 2 a.m tape ws putout by 293B ofis &ran from XRdiP3C to d Antral. 2 A screen was out -o43Bn. I8 on lef ws 700or dooyds. Only on it from Pear French ws fennan if active. Never heard the tanks coming up tho they Astined for them - the planes made
35 a devil of a noise. Didn't see the tanks till they got to velage A7 D B Ove rtn of Americans Each Coy - by were alt 50 to our 25 (1.8. ½ in streng of each Coy). mixed in iiregalarl 44th 155 t Cappog in Hawel. As soon as they went thro H3w5 to mop Hamielap. A- 80 Hamt
6 tanks 2 with Each Coy in same way as loy, excellents well. Our barrage wd short from first - 2 guas getting outs the 2nd Lane (moppers up) ts sections of Americans never left ape on acct Casualties The Sok flew across the port & in many cases the Thrapuel bursts overhend were only indication of when they were up to barry Oposity of Strack on the pout line - where ferman
abt 6 got mss. into action Capt Canaway - (C Coy found 4 guns in I font awas a cavers still on him & crewt by them, a fraid, he thinks, to open io them. lapt tope struck serious opposite at amanget heap immediatel in rear of trench S of the sd into Hamel (Hamel Wire Rd When the line ws 2o gds away gor when a rifl as fired & ap went a flare right ahead. A scrap started with bombs & rifts but tope swing a plu at once around in rear of the germs. by the road on the left. This we am
Auerican pln Coured by D Symons who had his ranner to him. He as wounded in Larm- his ranver (Pto Anderson) took on I jot & carried on a/c of the Amcricans who had no of w phe The ferms in the port line here had gone after I first few shots. Our bouts Fire then started from the manget Our bomb keap tnit I manel heap & rotled down Our men wod get down at once before they trrew theas bombs or fired - you cdnt stand up to a witts bomb at H distancd

AWM38
Official History,
1914-18 War: Records of C E W Bean,
Official Historian.
Diaries and Notebooks
 Item number: 3DRL606/188/1
Title: Notebook, July 1918
Includes references to the 43rd Battalion,
Hamel, various generals and repatriation.
 AWM38-3DRL606/188/1
 

 

 

Original          DIARY NO 188.
43rd Bn
Hamel
AWM38  3 DRL 606   ITEM 188 [1]
DIARIES AND NOTES OF C.E.W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914 - 1918

 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But apart from these terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.
These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half-asleep;
also, not infrequently what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.

These records should therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing believed. Further, he cannot, of course vouch
for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
16 Sep., 1946.                   C.E.W. BEAN

AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN

Gullett
(17736)  Wt. 2205 - SK550. 100000 1/18. Sir J. C. & S. 

 

108
1
[*Good men in
Aust. Men wh
have bn a success*]
____________________________
Repatriation
Medical
- Shd be staff ^of A.I.F. interchangeable in Evng to
find out what is being
 done in by Germ France
& all countries.
[*Shd be working
for repatriation.*]
188
You cd send them back to Eng if wdnt stop
artificial limbs.
______________________________
The staff, instrs, etc shd be
sent from here.
_________
[*Col Honman
A.I.F.*]
__________________________
Featherstone { 5 or 6 Uni staff on board ship. Where idleness is largely learnt
                            { Lectures on leave
_________________________________________________________
Starting from Aust Shd be examined by a board of
2 good ^well pd men: every man shd sign an
attestation paper & Dr also.
In case of men who are returned there shd be a please explain.
 

 

108
2
Final Bd of Appeal.
Pensions - Judge of [shorthand]
                     Good [shorthand] offr surgeon
                     Physician
Board absolutely apart from politics. Must be appointed for 5 years as free
as Rly Commiss in N.S.W.
To settle appeals on paper
Big questn is identity
V. Big questn of Administration.
Monash shd go to Aust. at end & go
on w responsibility there.
A.I.F. shd nt end.
Establishing of Austlia after war

 

108

3
Book.
The best generals were
those who had no
thought for ^themselves xxx  – all
for Australia. Who wd not
risk a stunt for ^mere personal
glory. Who had no
ulterior motive for appting
so & so & keeping in w
so & so —  but just acted
by one creed — What
is right for Aust. ^That simplified things
v. much.

_______________________________________
Angus ^Butler says 16th Divn gave way
also —S. Irish ^Horse gave near Roiselle.
Ken is wounded & prisoner in Germany
21st Divn at Epeby held. 

 

108

[*43 Bn Hamel.*]
43 Bn Hamel.
Objve - Hamel - whole of it.
Had to move just N of
Pear Trench.
Started to move onto
tapes at 12. & were all
ready by 2 a.m.
Tape ws put out by 2 & 3 Bn
offrs & ran from X Rd in P3C
to 8 Central.
A screen was out
— of 43 Bn. nomansland on left ws
700 or 800 yds. Only on rt
from Pear Trench ws German
m.g. active.
Never heard the tanks
coming up tho' they listened
for them — the planes made
 

 

108

5
a devil of a noise.
Didnt see the tanks
till they got to / village.
Hand drawn diagram – see original
One pln of Americans to
each coy – they were abt
50 to our 25 (i.e. 1/3 in strength
of each Coy) mixed in
irregularly.
 44th ws to leapfrog in
Hamel.  As soon as
they went thro 43 ws
to mop Hamel up.
Hand drawn diagram – see original

 

108

6

6 tanks, 2 with each
coy in same way as Coy.
 5 of these tanks worked
excellently well.
Our barrage ws short from
first — 2 guns getting onto
the 2nd line (moppers up).
Two sections of Americans
never left tape on acct of
casualties.

The smoke blew across
the front & in many cases
the Shrapnel bursts overhead
were / only indication of
when they were up to /
barrage.
Oppositn ws stuck on the
front line — where / German

 

108

7
got ^abt 6 m.gs. into action.
Capt Canaway – (C Coy)
found 4 guns in / front
trench w / ^canvas covers still on them.
& crews by them, afraid, he thinks, to open w them.
Capt Cope struck serious
oppositn at a/mangel heap
immediately in rear o / 
trench S of the Rd into
Hamel (Hamel–Vaire Rd)
When the line ws 20 yds
away xx when a rifle
ws fired & up went a
flare right ahead. A scrap
started with bombs & rifles
but Cope swung a pln
at once around in rear
of the Germs. by the road
on the left. This ws an
 

 

108

8
American pln commd by
Lt Symons who had his
runner w him. He
ws wounded in / arm –
his runner (Pte Anderson)
took on / job & carried
on a/c. of the Americans
who had no offr w /
pln.
The germs in the front line
here had gone after / first
few shots. Our bombs Fire
then started from the mangel
heap.  xx Our bombs hit / mangel
heap & rolled down.
Our men wd get down at once
before they threw these bombs
or fired — you cdnt stand up
to a Mills bomb at tt distance

 

 

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