Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/18/1 - October 1915 - Part 5

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First World War, 1914–18
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36 it is golden. We saw it in Anstraha when he reported on our defence system He made a few straight criticisns but ther took all 1 force dit of them by administeriy them to lot of such very nice theys about ours elves to we were all bucked up & proud of oarselves when be ought to have made as act. He d to the centrelisatioo War office at its very worst never egualled I centraliati of our Drfence Dept - but he mixed in such a los- of kind flattery to it to no one ever look any notice of him. I thought this at time - & it wt I same in W Here, when theis were at their worst -after May 57.8 - when I place of gonn stragght ahed over Achi Baba proves as cleari inpossible or possible only to av wuch greater fora he had not I strength either to five to plan up – or to tell 1 war office tt I plan must be given ap at least so far as I know he hadn't I strength to say So. The British pablic certainly 65 atterly deceived as to 1 difficulties & tobviohs fachrs - Hamillon b
CALLIPOLI HONOURS. influenced Sr 30. LowpoN, March 14. ton whose The following honours and promotions I have been conferred in connection with Hanitton wt the evacuation of Gallipoli:— Knight his Grand Cross of the Order of St. Michae foodof hhis and St. George, Lieut. General Monro; Knight Commander of the same Order. only Major General P.J. Davice; Companion f ei of the same Order, Colonel Robert Tud way, Major H. E. Street, of the Artillery, army looks Major A.J. McNalty, of the Army Ser Eduen- as vice Corps, and Major C.F. Aspinall, of the Munster Fusiliers; Knight Com ous Srobictines I manders of the Order of the Bath, Major to o General Aitham, Major General Byng 6 and Major General Godley; Companions Egypt of the same Order, Lieut.Colonel G.T. there MacMunn and Lieut.Colonel C. B. & White, both of the Australian Force. To I navy. be Major Generals Colonel Walter Camp) Campayn bell and Lieut.-Colonel A. Lynden Bell. Renter's Specip og, a way be tween army & navy. At a suspicion o allt this appears in Hamiltons dispatches. Those monuments I exeusite style have nothing but t hoghess praise & appreciation for every one of these It is part of same weakness of character - & pert. partl 1 Britishe hatred of anytheng like a reandal – Shocking to has caused men in this expeditye newe e prom by being kicked up-stairs colonel from GHO not down. T0 remove as you maskebimarb find some Lob
all this time, I believe, influenced by the precious Hunter Weston whose plan the ts supposed to be. Henion we said to be on I worsh of terms w his chief of staff, but not a word of this appears in his despatches - only fulsone flattery of tisregregi a man whom I army looks on -inspited his staff college educn - as chieft notable for an egregious srobictins There, were, I believe, all sorts of difficulties to Maxwell in Egypt who controls I commanccatins there & at times open enmity to 1 navy. Wevenson used to say th this campayn adonly end in one way, a way between armyl &I navy. Not a suspicion of all this appears on Hamiltons dispatches. Those monuments I exeusite style have nothing but t bghess praise & appreciation for every one of these It is part of same weakness of character - & pert. parth 1 Britiste hatred of anyther like a reandal Shockin to has caused men in this expeditee to be promitted by being kicked up staiis colonel from G.HO not down. To removea you marketimarbin kind some Lob
in I fighteng force for him & promote bim to brigadier genl. & send him pleasantly away. It is a most fatal aptituded this of gelding the pilldoo Hamilton to his beautiful style in literature. & kind gentlemanty manners is hopelessly weakents by it - poor dd chap For it is a tragidy. He, an old man, & an old soldier, abt end of his carcer to be caddenly removed from command after a long bitter campagn. I've little doubt it is right - but it is a pity that the reason why it has been done now is not the right reason. There is a very pave cresss in our affairs just now; what has happened is th for first time in I was people have found t little states wh want to be on 1 strongest side have decided that it is worth their while to throw in their lot a – Germany. They clearly think Germany is winning - in spite of all our promises, in spite of their people believing in our cause (for it is popular in Greece Bulgaria &
21. Dedeagatch bombarder by 2 Theser. 39 Roumania) they have now suddenly come to their momenlous decision as to who is winning this war - & their decision is - Germany. That is what hurts. Someone has got to go of the people are taking ogether impatient - the potitician (as he always does) is looking about to save his skin - & so he throws overboard. Sir Ian Hamilton. The man who is really respons ibl 00 far as Butain is concerned for the tings wh this has happened is not Sir Lan Hamilton but the mutton headed Sir Edward grey. It was not frey who bungled our position at constantiople Louther & mallet did that be taking sides against, the young Turks Emplae when our wholeEctually believed we were for them - indeed by taken sides at all. They wire tike putte in the lands of a man like Beberstein Hamilton has been ruled by his
staff & he has had a bad steff. The man who really rans the expedition & does not pretend otherwise is Maj. Gen. Braithwaitz, Chief of Genl. Sraft Oh why ask Hamelton? you know what he is he sd to Capt. Maxwell in referese to some problem for solution always tends his car to the last speaker - which we probably exactly what M. wanted him todo nevertheless Braithwaite Hamiths as aman who only had time for blue blood or some sort of imitation of it – Malcolm Ross sucin found him quite friendly when he disclosed in conversation the fact to he, Ross, had amongst his acquaintance sundry earls, lords & others with handles to their names. The daff rather reflicted this. There was no stronyman seeing that it all did it's work. It certainly, some of it, looked on its billet as enienently deserable - confortable, for war time. no overwouled, not over strenuous, well paid. The arragon portion of it was the outstanding scandal in this way - the stack in efficient self indulgent office holders who lived comfortably on 40
1 aly needed by 1 by spital (wt is under clage) are available being kept for some tal wh has not yet up. The arragon as at a time when patients in our the ship (for wh, Maxwell tells me, the nation is paying at the rate of $160,000 per annum) whilst our Aushalian narses & durgious of the Great NoS Genl. Hospital were living on I hard pround (I murses in tents, doetors under deck chairs and I patients in open air within a mile of them. He equipiment, I believe, ws available - butI hospital had to stragch thro' without it e all thro 1 baddays after 1 great battle of Aujust 6- 10 because I arragon ws reserving it for some other hospitals. I believe buts or 1 timber for them at this
1 moment wigently needed by 1 by Australian Hospital (wh is under (arragon's tulelage) are available now - but are being kept for some British hospital wh has not get left turned up. The arragon as wallowing on ice at a time when typhord & other fever patients in our hospitals ashore id not get even Booril - only Bullybeefr bescuits, & when I waisheps by sending each a little a daily to thospitals; small lnxuries, saved I situation Hamilton has not had much help with these hogs to support him I believe e Alston of Postal Dept. is a brilliant exception. Tyrrel of Intellyince is a keen sincere man there are other good brains but as a whole I am quite unimpressed w G.N. 90 its ways. Neither has Hawelton ever be given I ammunition to play with which generals in France have used for preparing their advances.
42 Oct. 21. Dediagatch was bombarded today by 2 monetors & the theseus. Oct. 22. Wd have one to Helles. But a Norkerly gale is blowing so. fience to Lawrence & I decided to put it off. The day has on wet & cold - a thin driving rain Birdwood is here temporarily in command of expedition I believe he has created a bit gf a sensation at G.H.O. by holding up some o costly preparations for their winter quarlers, tho this maght pure pasig. The men in all trenches are going wet for want of a sungle Sheet of galvanised vron. G.H.Q. is putting about 20 sterts of iron onto each of extrines for itself & its batmen Dct. 23. Saturday. Came to Anzac after a woild passage in
French map 6, Anzac. 43 a trawler thoo' a half gale - the deck swilling to water all 1 Aime. There are some changes at Arzac. As On walkers top we have broken out in I night a newfrom trench betw. nos 345 saps, much closer to enemy. They blew up a mine near it, & as usual failed (they blew up one under their own trench on hill 60 tothe day, also one near their own truck at Chathams Fdstihe did blow in a galling of our at one point in I Penensuls And entombe 5 men, but after being given up for lost for 3 days thes 5 cut their way out unharmed (2) The t. patrots seem nore active down July betw. Guino Popes & Walkers. We have a small trinch at Henton's Post, & a parricade a

36
it is golden. We saw it in Australia 
when he reported on our defence system
He made a few straight criticisms but
then took all / force out of them by sav
administering them w a lot of such
very nice things about ourselves tt
we were all bucked up & proud of
ourselves when he ought to have made
us act. He sd tt the centralisation o / 
War office at its very worst never
equalled / centralisation of our Defence
Dept - but he mixed in such a lot
of kind flattery to it tt no one ever
took any notice of him. I thought
this at / time - & it ws / same in
N.Z.
Here, when things were at their
worst -after May 6,7,8 - when / plan of
going straight ahead over Achi Baba
ws clearly ^ proved impossible or possible only
to av. much greater force he had not
/ strength either to give to plan up x
xxxxx  – or to tell / war office tt
/ plan must be given up at least so
far as I know he hadn't / strength to
say So. The British public certainly
ws utterly deceived as to / difficulties
& / obvious failure - Hamillon ws
 

 

CALLIPOLI HONOURS.
2/55
LONDON, March 14.
The following honours and promotions
have been conferred in connection with
the evacuation of Gallipoli:— Knight
Grand Cross of the Order of St. Michael
foodof hhis
and St. George, Lieut. General Monro;
Knight Commander of the same Order.
only
Major General P.J. Davice; Companion f ei
of the same Order, Colonel Robert Tud
way, Major H. E. Street, of the Artillery,
army looks
Major A.J. McNalty, of the Army Ser
Eduen- as
vice Corps, and Major C.F. Aspinall, of
the Munster Fusiliers; Knight Com
ous Srobictines
I manders of the Order of the Bath, Major
to o
General Aitham, Major General Byng
6 and Major General Godley; Companions
Egypt
of the same Order, Lieut.Colonel G.T.
there
MacMunn and Lieut.Colonel C. B.
& White, both of the Australian Force. To
I navy.
be Major Generals Colonel Walter Camp) Campayn
bell and Lieut.-Colonel A. Lynden Bell.
Renter's Specip og, a way be tween
army & navy. At a suspicion
o allt this appears in Hamiltons
dispatches. Those monuments I
exeusite style have nothing but t hoghess
praise & appreciation for every one of
these
It is part of same weakness of
character - & pert. partl 1 Britishe
hatred of anytheng like a reandal – Shocking
to has caused men in this expeditye
newe
e prom by being kicked up-stairs
colonel from GHO
not down. T0 remove as
you
maskebimarb find some Lob
 

 

all this time, I believe, influenced
by the precious Hunter Weston whose
plan the ts supposed to be. Henion we
said to be on I worsh of terms w his
chief of staff, but not a word of this
appears in his despatches - only
fulsone flattery of tisregregi
a man whom I army looks
on -inspited his staff college educn - as
chieft notable for an egregious srobictins
There, were, I believe, all sorts of
difficulties to Maxwell in Egypt
who controls I commanccatins there
& at times open enmity to 1 navy.
Wevenson used to say th this campayn
adonly end in one way, a way between
armyl &I navy. Not a suspicion
of all this appears on Hamiltons
dispatches. Those monuments I
exeusite style have nothing but t bghess
praise & appreciation for every one of
these
It is part of same weakness of
character - & pert. parth 1 Britiste
hatred of anyther like a reandal Shockin
to has caused men in this expeditee
to be promitted by being kicked up staiis
colonel from G.HO
not down. To removea you
marketimarbin kind some Lob
 

 

in I fighteng force for him & promote bim
to brigadier genl. & send him pleasantly
away. It is a most fatal aptituded
this of gelding the pilldoo Hamilton
to his beautiful style in literature.
& kind gentlemanty manners is
hopelessly weakents by it - poor dd
chap
For it is a tragidy. He, an old
man, & an old soldier, abt end of
his carcer to be caddenly removed
from command after a long bitter
campagn. I've little doubt it is
right - but it is a pity that
the reason why it has been done now
is not the right reason. There is a
very pave cresss in our affairs just
now; what has happened is th for
first time in I was people have found
t little states wh want to be
on 1 strongest side have decided that
it is worth their while to throw in their
lot a – Germany. They clearly
think Germany is winning - in
spite of all our promises, in spite
of their people believing in our cause (for
it is popular in Greece Bulgaria &
 

 

21. Dedeagatch bombarder by 2 Theser.
 

39
Roumania) they have now suddenly
come to their momenlous decision as
to who is winning this war - &
their decision is - Germany. That
is what hurts. Someone has got to
go of the people are taking ogether
impatient - the potitician (as he
always does) is looking about to
save his skin - & so he throws
overboard. Sir Ian Hamilton.
The man who is really respons
ibl 00 far as Butain is concerned
for the tings wh this has happened
is not Sir Lan Hamilton but
the mutton headed Sir Edward
grey. It was not frey who bungled
our position at constantiople
Louther & mallet did that be
taking sides against, the young Turks
Emplae
when our wholeEctually
believed we were for them - indeed
by taken sides at all. They wire
tike putte in the lands of a man like
Beberstein
Hamilton has been ruled by his
 

 

staff & he has had a bad steff. The
man who really rans the expedition
& does not pretend otherwise is Maj.
Gen. Braithwaitz, Chief of Genl. Sraft
Oh why ask Hamelton? you know
what he is he sd to Capt. Maxwell
in referese to some problem for solution
always tends his car to the last
speaker - which we probably exactly
what M. wanted him todo nevertheless
Braithwaite
Hamiths as aman who only had
time for blue blood or some sort of
imitation of it – Malcolm Ross
sucin found him quite friendly
when he disclosed in conversation
the
fact to he, Ross, had amongst his
acquaintance sundry earls, lords
& others with handles to their names.
The daff rather reflicted this. There was
no stronyman seeing that it all did
it's work. It certainly, some of it,
looked on its billet
as enienently deserable - confortable,
for war time.
no overwouled, not over strenuous,
well paid. The arragon portion of it
was the outstanding scandal in this
way - the stack in efficient self indulgent
office holders who lived comfortably on
 

40
 

 

1
aly needed by 1 by
spital (wt is under
clage) are available
being kept for some
tal wh has not yet
up. The arragon as
at a time when
patients in our
the ship (for wh, Maxwell tells me, the
nation is paying at the rate of
$160,000 per annum) whilst our
Aushalian narses & durgious of the
Great NoS Genl. Hospital were
living on I hard pround (I murses in
tents, doetors under deck chairs
and I patients in open air
within a mile of them. He equipiment,
I believe, ws available - butI
hospital had to stragch thro' without
it e all thro 1 baddays
after 1 great battle of Aujust 6- 10
because I arragon ws reserving it
for some other hospitals. I believe buts
or 1 timber for them at this
 

 

1
moment wigently needed by 1 by
Australian Hospital (wh is under
(arragon's tulelage) are available
now - but are being kept for some
British hospital wh has not get
left turned up. The arragon as
wallowing on ice at a time when
typhord & other fever patients in our
hospitals ashore id not get even
Booril - only Bullybeefr bescuits,
& when I waisheps by sending each
a little a daily to thospitals;
small lnxuries, saved I situation
Hamilton has not had much
help with these hogs to support him
I believe e Alston of Postal Dept. is
a brilliant exception. Tyrrel of
Intellyince is a keen sincere man
there are other good brains but as a
whole I am quite unimpressed
w G.N. 90 its ways. Neither has
Hawelton ever be given I ammunition
to play with which generals in France
have used for preparing their advances.
 

 

42
Oct. 21. Dediagatch was bombarded
today by 2 monetors & the theseus.
Oct. 22. Wd have one to Helles. But
a Norkerly gale is blowing so.
fience to Lawrence & I decided
to put it off. The day has on
wet & cold - a thin driving
rain
Birdwood is here temporarily
in command of expedition
I believe he has created a bit gf
a sensation at G.H.O. by
holding up some o costly
preparations for their winter
quarlers, tho this maght
pure pasig. The men in all
trenches are going wet for
want of a sungle Sheet of galvanised
vron. G.H.Q. is putting about
20 sterts of iron onto each of
extrines for itself & its batmen
Dct. 23. Saturday. Came to
Anzac
after a woild passage in
 

 

French map 6, Anzac.
 

43
a trawler thoo' a half gale - the
deck swilling to water all 1 Aime.
There are some changes at
Arzac.
As On walkers top we have
broken out in I night a newfrom
trench betw. nos 345 saps,
much closer to enemy. They
blew up a mine near it, & as
usual failed (they blew up one
under their own trench on hill 60
tothe day, also one near their
own truck at Chathams Fdstihe
did blow in a galling of our at
one point in I Penensuls And
entombe 5 men, but after
being given up for lost for 3 days
thes 5 cut their way out unharmed
(2) The t. patrots seem nore active
down July betw. Guino Popes
& Walkers. We have a small trinch
at Henton's Post, & a parricade a
 

 

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