Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/18/1 - October 1915 - Part 4

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They tre him & foundhe write but he wontsaly abyting Howeverne as at last put in w 2 friendly prisoners, & the must have bot touched by kindness. for he told tm be as 94t Ry 32 Dwvn, 10a. c. The 10th A.C ws1 one cat tobits byl Ruosians at Sarykamiich, & this chap came from th directon that he us not in th fight Apptty 1 Dion has be reconstituted &is here. We have ona Ncholson thinks th are more i fromfl us than sence Augh The news has come to Russians have hnd i in force at Varna. I reachw here this Evg. Wasstaffe think 1 Tarks, who have only 8000 troops of poor typ at Advianople have already sent some men away from here. tonight we have a demonstatin plauned 300 4 days ago at least) to find out how man Tohere are in port of whote
2 line. Da Destroyer Hill in pont oowr trench. we have I post & patrols sent out at night withdrown by day - as daylight. The other day when I patrols 3rdLH Rest o came in a pirk folld them unnot -iced, & for right into our line, & lockes a sleeping cook & asked to be taken prisoner. e It turned out te doctor of his regt had given him a bottle of medicing & a kick behind, & he thought over Igrievance & decide to come an. He must have known all abt our patrots because he came in at exactly right place & time. We send patrols down I frightfully steep fore slope of Rhodendron Spur & they lie up & liste for T patrols - it to sost of vential graun. They found 2 rifles belonging to the wilts also found sead of all sorts
28 & 2 dead Gurkhas. There are lots of T. dead still on I.S. side of destroyin will some still in their clug outs & one sitting holding a rasor. This showe how complete Surprise W.S. Sir Victor Horsby Col. Consulty surgeon is right to inspect) has be here for a day Advian Knox ws here on 11-1214 for the Red &. 3 Br 5
bill ty Oct. 6th Saturday. The demonsts al wohn ap at abt 4.10 am. our gunson batck destroyen & larger warshps firing intensely. There ws a fairty thin cractele t of T rifles going all time wid a few tonding gentlemen whom they couldn't stop - but no mgs & the ruse secmed to fail to dicen. I went up to the Srd. Bde? Ind L1 Bde to see Bert Lowing & ask after some soldicrs whose parents had written to me. One of them Corpl. Rooke of 1 Bn his companie believe to have bn take prioner on the 1st day. I sh to be on constantinople snow, whows w him, escaped from 6 Tarks. [We can't get prisoners names out o1 B. I dent know whey They gave a fiw naval ones but v. few others. The Foreyn office knowe there are others prob to0 osso, Britit At 2ndL H Bde HO 3 found Foste, Bde may, who I thought was away wounded.
30 He had been hit - cut all over shatured face by a periscope; bullet thoo his time & I think sometling in arn but stayed at work. He has bn hil a 12 place altopten, I dritted inti 3places. On Sept Eg be we slande oulside And Lt.B. Ho wold Kyrn, duing an afternoons straf when Ryrie sd. You know wel get it one o thei days Toat well get it here bount to Sir sd Daster & fint as te sd it old R. tumbled back a a shepnal petter scored along his throat within almost scratching distance of jugular. Obit where I chiskng gotI are, Joste ws all he sdl - Hes a very poputen old chap - ol thro and yarns a his men as if he were a station owner & they his stocks & they Swear by him. But it is Foster who has putter tt Bde together & done wonders
Steatig of Canteen Stuff. att. & Mundvos 1800, 380. 2001 Canleem now. want timber This Trasport arrang aspuats plan Austrla Dion lives to as y of getting men back Do who go away for 3wks MacCor in wrong place. House her winter. A. ready by endof Oct for $1500 3000 at pwish for 10 days Sweeping of lies etc. Young superintendants stdbe used & mc men - off too ot w them. (The 7K W.H. ws in hone Pins]. They have doy rmply tremendoual a are always having to shew ti bit-weeks Coursit round ther lin. Col. Cn Fighten Charles. is how a com n I watched a boub catafull - ver like a cross bow s firing bombs at 1t-cate 1 truch every two we have an antiaircrap g ready for mounting noow A. knox says Red. & funds were used for subsideray hospitil &1 Exbekect Gdus Cafe & fer takeng ban a Pl. for capt. te hosp subsidies were well cope (see article) Sunday October 17th Back in Imbror last night. we had a staggerer in the correspondent camp today. About 10 this morning a telegram arrived from Marwell at G.H.A across Bay. Sir San Hamilton is four across to K Beach to say goodbye to some of officers there this
32 morning. He would like to say godbee to correspondents too Don't know what time he is coming That ws I first we had heard of it – (Bartlett had bet Lawrence L10 H Hamilton wd leave before 1end of September, & he ws to have a weeks grace - To th Lawsence only wan his bet by a week.] It came as a bott from 1 blue. About a quarter to one, when Old thom of N.3 Division ws here lunching an orderly arrived to say to the C.inC. ws on his way to our camp & Major Charchill wanted us to come out & meet him. He jumped up & went out & found him just turning I corner from 1 transport camp riding up thro'I scrub with abt] of his steff to him. He rode a head to us (the others held back a bit) & sd. I wanted to come & say good bye to you - 1sth your new attage? quit
Architictural pretencions hasn't it. We said something about it F. told him how really sorsy we were to part or him. He gave as a copy of a were he had received from Anzac & of his reply. H successor was a god man, he sd, & He sd somethin abt his successor. We haven't heard who be 1s Sir we sd. Gent Manro! he replied He comes from France - you maynt have heard much of him but he's a damned good man want you to send to abt 1 81 Anzae men, hesd oh not afrait of the men They're splendis fellows they il hold out gpt anything that can be brought agst them in I way of men. I have seen ens & heard enough to know tt I tark tho he's s heroic defence is not going to succeed in attack. We ove the I i apaid of is if Gerans. I o 6C1 X
h XE 90 5.7 651 251 Co 16-2. difficult 19 a 12 3. 6. 6 0 Oi 17110 9 000 The poor old chap looked to me very hapard - almost brokin up. So were some of staff. They told as privately tt 1 message had only come I day before in a cepher telepam is it ws 1 first they had heard of it & I believe first Hamilton himself knew of it. Tancy having to set to cipber transtated by some clerk I am honestly very sorry to see Hamilton go. He is a gentleman & has always bu courteons & considery ontich to us. Te Army has never believed in him, but he is a good friend to civilions & has breadth of
36 mind wh I army d not in giera possess. It is rather fault of character than of intellect It has caused him to fail. He has not I strength to command his staff - they command him; especially Braithwast, his Chief o Staf whom he is on worst of terms, I believe - has commande this expediti. Braithwaitz is a snot only a engl ed support this Cosy G.H. G. & Sopar as I know he his only by to Anzar once. He is certainly utterly disloyal to his chief. Hf Hamilton had had a loyal agreeable capable C. of Scap his success wight have be vo different But he is not capable of standay up to any of them. Hamilton has not strength to give those wo whom he is surrounded a straight out blow from I shoulder however much I situation demands it. To wex 1 metephor - be has an unlidey ability for siding sill. He cant administer a pill unles

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They tried him w writing & found he cd
write but he wdnt say anything.
However he ws at last put in w
2 friendly prisoners, & he must
have bn touched by kindness.
for he told them he ws
94th Rgt, 32 Divn, 10A.C.
The 10th A.C. ws / one cut to bits
by / Russians at Sarykamisch,
& this chap came from tt directn
tho' he ws not in tt fight.
Apptly / Divn has bn reconstituted
& is here. We have on a
demo Nicholson thinks there are more
Ts in front of us than since Aug 6.
The news has come tt
/ Russians have landed in
force at Varna. It reached
here this Evg. Wagstaffe thinks
/ Turks, who have only 8000
poor troops of poor type at
Adrianople have already sent
some men away from here.
Tonight we have a demonstratn
(planned 3 or 4 days ago at
least) to find out how many
Ts there are in front of / whole
 

 

 

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line.
On Destroyer Hill in front
of our trench we have 2 posts
& patrols sent out at night &
withdrawn by day - at daylight.
The other day when / patrols
^of 3rd LH Regt came in a Turk folld them unnoticed,
& got right into our line, &
kicked a sleeping cook & asked to
be taken prisoner. He It turned
out the doctor of his regt had
given him a bottle of medicine
& a kick behind, & he thought
over / grievance & decided to
come in. He must have known
all abt our patrols because
he came in at exactly right
place & time. We send patrols
down / frightfully steep fore slope
of Rhodendron Spur & they lie
up & listen for T. patrols - it
is sort of neutral ground. They
found 2 rifles belonging to the Wilts
(?) & also found dead of all sorts
 

 

 

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& 2 dead Gurkhas.
There are lots of T. dead
still on / S. side of destroyer hill
- some still in their dug outs
& one sitting holding a razor. This
shows how complete /
surprise ws.
Sir Victor Horsley (Col -
Consultg surgeon w right to
inspect) has bn here for a day.
Adrian Knox ws here
on 11-12th for the Red X.
Diagram - see original
Browns Dip
Harris R. Chathams
Holly Ridge
Allah Gully
Silt Spur
Cooee Gully
Valley of Despair
Snipers Ridge
Poppy Valley
Surprise Gully
Weir Ridge
Wanliss Gully
Pine Ridge
Legge
Wine glass
 

 

 

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Oct. 16th. Saturday.
The demonstratn woke me
up at abt 4.10 a.m. - our guns on
hill ^at back destroyers & larger warships firing
intensely. There ws a fairly thin crackle
of T. rifles going all / time, - evidently
a few touchy gentlemen whom they
couldn't stop - but no m.gs &
the ruse seemed to fail to draw. -
I went up to the 3rd. Bde &
2nd LH Bde to see some Bert Lowing
& ask after some soldiers whose parents
had written to me. One of them Corpl.
Rooke of 12th Bn his companions
believe to have bn take prisoner on
the 1st day. & still to be in Constantinople
-  Snow, who ws w him, escaped from
/ Turks. [We can't get prisoners
names out o / T.s.  I dont know
why. They gave a few naval ones but
v. few others.] The Foreign office knows
there are others, prob. 200 or so British].
At 2nd L H Bde HQ I
found Foster, Bde maj, who
I thought was away wounded.
 

 

 

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He had been hit - cut all over /
face by a ^shattered periscope; bullet thro' his
tunic & I think something in / arm -
but stayed at work. He has bn hit in
12 places altogether, & drilled into in
3 places.
On Sept 29 he ws standing
outside 2nd L.H.B. H.Q. w old
Ryrie, during an afternoon's straf
when Ryrie sd - "You know we'll
get it one o' these days, Foster,
- we'll get it here" - "Bound to Sir"
sd Foster & just as he sd it old
R. tumbled back as a shrapnel
pellet scored along his throat within
almost scratching distance of /
jugular. "Got it where / chicken
got / axe, Foster", ws all he
sd - He's a very popular
old chap - goes thro and
yarns w his men as if he were
a station owner & they his stockmen
& they Swear by him. But
it is Foster who has pulled
tt Bde together & done wonders
 

 

 

Stealing of Canteen Stuff.
L.H. & Mundros 1300, 380.
2001 [[shorthand]]
Canteen now.
want timber
Flies
Trasport arrangement,
Aspinalls plan
Austrln Divn lines [[shorthand]]
as [[shorthand]]
Diffy of getting men back
who go away for 3wks
MacCom in wrong place.
Howse has winter Q.
ready by end of
Oct for 1500
3000 at pinch
for 10 days
Sweeping of lines etc.
Young superintendents
shd be used & AMC
men - offrs too old
[* Typhoids wh go away stop for
[[shorthand]] bec. [shorthand] of infection.
Baz. held up by MLO.*]
 

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w them. [The 7th L.H. ws in Lone Pine].
They have dug simply tremendously &
are always having to show the tri-weekly
tourists round their lines. Col. Cox
is now in command - "Fighting  Charlie."
I watched a bomb catapult - very
like a cross bow - firing bombs
at / Ts.- into / trench every time.
We have an anti-aircraft gun
ready for mounting now.
A. Knox says Red X funds
were used for subsidising hospitals
& / Ezbekieh Gdns Cafe. & for
taking Luna Pk. for cafe. The
hosp. subsidies were well expended
(see article) -
Sunday October 17th
Back in Imbros last night.
We had a staggerer in the correspondent's
Camp today. About 10 this morning a
telegram arrived from Maxwell at
G.H.Q across / Bay: "Sir Ian Hamilton
is going across to K Beach to say
goodbye to some o / officers there this
 

 

 

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morning. He would like to say
goodbye to / correspondents too -
Don't know what time he is coming."
We That ws / first we had
heard of it – [Bartlett had bet Lawrence
£10 tt Hamilton wd leave before / end
of September, & he ws to have a
weeks grace - So tt Lawrence only
won his bet by a week.] It came
as a bolt from / blue.
About a quarter to one, when
Old Thoms o / N.Z. ^& A Division ws
here lunching an orderly arrived
out to say tt the C. in C. ws on his
way to our camp & Major Churchill
wanted us to come out & meet
him. We jumped up & went out
& found him just turning / corner
from / transport camp riding up
thro / scrub with abt 7 of his
staff w him. He rode ahead to us
(the others held back a bit) & sd:
"I wanted to come & say good bye to
you - Is tt your new cottage? quite
 

 

 

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Architectural pretensions hasn't it" -
We said something about it &
told him how really sorry we were
to part w him. He gave as a copy
of a wire he had received from
Anzac & of his reply. His successor
was a good man, he sd, &
He sd something abt his
successor. "We haven't heard who he
is, Sir," we sd.
"Genl Munro," he replied
"He comes from France - you maynt
"have heard much of him but he's
"a damned good man."
"I want you to send tt abt l
Anzac men", he sd "I'm not afraid of the men
He gxxx They're splendid fellows -
they'll hold out agst anything that
can be brought agst them in / way
of men. I have seen eno' & heard
enough to know tt / Turk tho'
he's a heroic ^in defence is not going
to succeed in attack. We one the
I'm afraid of is if / Germans
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[[shorthand]]
difficult [[shorthand]]

[[shorthand]]
The poor old chap looked to
me very haggard - almost broken
up. So were some o / staff. They
told us privately tt / message
had only come / day before in a
cipher telegram - tt ws / first
they had heard of it & I believe /
first Hamilton himself knew of it.
Fancy having to get tt cipher translated by some clerk.
I am honestly very sorry to see
Hamilton go. He is a gentleman &
has always bn courteous & considerate
to us. The ^British Army has never believed
in him, but he is a good friend to
civilians & has some breadth of
 

 

 

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mind wh / army does not in general
possess.
It is rather fault of character than
of intellect tt has caused him to
fail. He has not / strength to
command his staff - they command
him; especially Braithwaite, his
Chief of Staff, ^w whom he is on / worst
of terms, I believe - has commanded
this expeditn. Braithwaite is a snob
only a snob cd support this lazy G.H.Q. -
Snob & So far as I know he has
only bn to Anzac once. He is
certainly utterly disloyal to his
chief. If Hamilton had had a
loyal agreeable capable C. of Staff
his success might have be v. different
But he is not capable of standing up
to any of them.
Hamilton has not / strength
to give those w whom he is surrounded
a straight out blow from / shoulder
however much / situation demands
it. To change mix / metaphor - he
has an unlucky ability for gilding /
pill. He cant administer a pill unless
 

 

 

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