Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/178/1 - 1915 - 1917 - Part 1

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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of CE W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606117817 Title: Notebook, 1915-7917 includes references to the 7th, 17th, 34th, 35th, 47th, 48th, 53rd and 55th Battalions, 14th Machine-Gun Company, Quinn's Post, Messines, Bullecourt, Polygon Wood, Menin Road and Passchendaele. AWMISS-SDRLCOGH7SH
2 5 53 7474 as 69 Polee Mtainus. Bulie ao far as they n yers. 2 30 BTe by the nois scaue from divn was tro that night.A in barrage inport) were there- only sI lastEA 5
G 141 The last night at Annins made very active twt. -ras our min/r Gooda down I cmpty valley th Turky bombey. urks were reported massing in the Farguher englins ws t mining at Quing fou pety astright avacuati. He have down we two deep) 1300l0 mines there out Bidig forbad it Missines Sept 20 O great 4 in Remember at (as 20 of Sept Ba. twe thei Messines the anxious for we all looking German, C attack. ws about ocoumeadely The system had onr successful & ws regarded as having to mysterious rather awe-inspiring force wh attaches to things ouly until faniiliarity heard the illesion. destroyed 6y t oy. Polepor Go dard i4 as fan as th MSens. Batin Bloody anley but tha 356 Mareo. Ts had sone into Clnns. A scout from dwwn. was the Neotentts by the noico lent for 1 Bloody Augle Patrol that night A patrol went there every my on 19120 as on barrage in pont We had no were there- only Bellevards. one semb. Goddard w. I last t ouptar on 20 came up Marrane of suntore no clanc wood a 8 gaus & reb 3 m.s. Coy. Or ip i cheazie from On 24 Sept remaining 8 guns of Coy 20 came up to to strongpost in Glenc w. 84 to be in reserve for attack. et par on 25 sept there ws a vident boule all day 8aacki On 26 Sept at 1.30 a.m. the gunsmoved from their positin 8 trok up an atacking posstn in (enfarty assembling in our port line During this assembly 1 serme opened very heavily at abt 4 am. but ws shooting just over. The At 5.45 bombt began. inty went over at once. The guns were a (first wave gas behind
Bieres the soing S. to Pueris Befort 15 Devn (& so probably all other Divns) understood to they were to be kept for a by operato at Messines & were, I believe, asked to consider or practice or reconnoitre anyway to take some action tn view of it. of their Within a few day intire order it was attered thy were of at shortnotice for Somme. 21/1 40 moppers up. The Juns were to stop red live where boaibt on stoppe 45 mins. The remaining & were to po on to the Bhue line. (Te guns are now simply placed in shellholis & then in 1 cufy positon as not to make a posite obvious to Anroplanes) There ws very lible trouble in Either advance. The second gun from 1 let went road towds camelery & put his up the gun in 1 cemetere t (this andtherd ws ws lates Cown out) onews on 100 yds furtion lep & one 150yds of the Batte thetop it of Butte? later captd fran gn ws bougtint act th Spareig &manned. thee Butte crews distribs along were the The
4 the Ble pontage - in shelholes. at 5pm. from the Batta were seen dense masses of Jerman's advancing from the et pont in the flat. TheVickers & the firman gan on the Buth mowed tese fellows down. Later the gunon I right and them & simply swept them down. The comg germans came like chaps from a footbatt match. IOPwent up and our arty got them. Tey neee all 300gt to woogds from Batte. That after 4 of the reserveguns were brought upt reif. the defence. one we on the Butte, one between Batte & rt gunon Ohe line Qin font line. tils Notiig more happined abt dawn Sept 27a Abt 50 germans wereseen, appty lost making towds the regun in front line. Two of the rsguns wh
. small entrande. aproan suped ladt on to this from nt park & fit a lorg men 2 cd see very well opened on thme. Abt 75 per cut were casualtied. The rest saticred - (these were abt 150 ys away) Tegerme seemed lost. The Butte had a field of view of abt 4o0yds.There we no trace of ferman positus and top of Butte. e 30/1 _ by a o.9. coy of the 7in Endish Dion. (rend my. coy) Teg. coy had 54 casualtis mostly in positus in rear on carryin pties. 2h Manghan we killed, in a shell holl just behind a B in poubling on sept 28. Capt Dick as suiped going out to find his body, &d. of wch. later 2/4 Hill ws wd on (25 sept before te attack. The 14 m9 Coy aron in this JA.C. 2 D.C.MS. As. P/s hient tufnell
$ Serphosell on aes e eneda tnt Aale n on to hendtibing The ferm. Cattack on Sept 26 The fiend were first seen appearing ay the scrub half right from the Butte abt 400 yds away. They were coming forward pretty thick alon three breaks or tracks in the scrub, making appily for their front line wh ws abt 50 yds ahead of2 wh we occupied. This frman 7 seemed to be like the rear of a small cmbantement. The ferms had to go abt 15yds to get from the scrub cals their r. We had marked several positions & had (range of them? As soon as they got to the breaks in IScrut the gun ad open on them. a great number were knocked over. For 2 or Thours on end they kept trying to come up
a reach their truck. They wd try of get into the trench between bursts, ranning across the optn a fair number reached 17 Tay were too disorganised Co atack from make any furter this 7 An artitre observate off as up tere o, the got the arty on 6 hows & this disorganised them. They often broke back from truch into 1screeb The movement ceased pust before dusk on Sept 27488 abt 3 in the after the germs attacked the Bde on right - it looked liked a lot of 300 to 500 men. an offe of Fard pn pat the Lerge onto it at a range of 1200 yds. The attack didnt come of th night but 1 party making it seem to have by taken prisoner 2
F & 6 as Aus Bn 24/12/17 7Bn Yores Dear Capt. Bear On making exquisiss I find then is a little differeace in the dotal regarding the office eamalters of 4/5th Oct last. the folloving to Will you amend read Banks shall duving consolidity Oct 4 shall on tape line Hanbrook M during baoroge shall poior to mos t to assumbly position OctH MC.1 duing advance Yean to 2n Objection Hollyhoke Oct4 M.C. Booodsintha Rd. duing advince to 2 Obyectin Oct H shell during Penderson C edoas but poior to reaching 1st Objective. Oct4 suiper, during Dear consolidation. Wishing you the compliments the season. Kindnt oggards. Yours sinecacly ErHandd 4l 5
Germans had a & all these on their clests (wh shing object seemed to be arshour or something like it). Or1 Soutein 5ide you the full cdsee into 12 The Escort ed be 1 follyig them back after the seen taking Risturbance at first it tt from the Batte as t looked & if they had boken tho who time there Dancy were targts in plies (appt fatigue or ration phis) movery about especially on fet flank The German planes were very active surping outo our positis - also [sayer The German above mentioner. arty got the rang of the Butte. extreme right) (aheaoy gun from the t my coyad reld the night when 54 Bn wd Bullecaurt attacked w Brown DC.M had 4guns in the ponl Kindenbury line, one abt Gogds from the right- & these funs largely saved the situation. He only had a guasab end.He ased to let 1garms come up pretty close before shooting.

AWM38
Official History,
1914-18 War: Records of C E W Bean,
Official Historian.
Diaries and Notebooks
Item number: 3DRL606/178/1

Title: Notebook, 1915 - 1917
Includes references to the 7th, 17th, 34th, 35th,
47th, 48th, and 55th Battalions, 14th
Machine-Gun Company, Quinn's Post,
Messines, Bullecourt, Polygon Wood, Menin
Road and Passchendaele.
AWM38-3DRL606/178/1
 

 

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DIARY NO. 178.
AWM 38
3DRL 606 ITEM 178 [1]
DIARIES AND NOTES OF C.E.W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914 - 1918

THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But apart from these terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.
These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half-asleep;
also, not infrequently what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.

These records should therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing believed. Further, he cannot, of course vouch
for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
16 Sep., 1946.                   C.E.W. BEAN

AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN
 

 

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The last night at Quinns
[[s?]] made very active w
[[ombs?]] - & as our men & Goddard
[[nd?]] off down / empty valley they
[[???]] Germ Turks bombing
away, [[???]] Turks were reported massing in the
Bloody Angle. xxxxx Two men were sent by Goddard up as far as they cd go
in / Bloody Angle but they cd see nothing - by the noise
the Ts had gone into Quinns. A scout from Divn. was
lent for / Bloody Angle. Patrol that night. A
patrol went there every night
We had no wire there - only
the scrub. Goddard ws / last C.O. up there.
The final pty went at 3.20 a.m. Of course
all thought there ws no chance at all.
Goddard met Mackenzie from Popes in / Valley - &
20 Bn on Russell's Top. The men were very
sick at / time. The bombers had bn chosen
for the last party at Quinns.
Quinns. Lt Farquhar Engineers ws
working at / mining at Quinns from nearly
/ first to / last - night w / evacuation. He
ws to have blown the two deep 1300lb mines
there but Birdie forbad it.
Messines
And Sept 20.
Remember tt in the great
Battle of Sept 20 (as at
Messines) the thing tt we
we all looking for & anxious
about, ws / German c-attack.
The system had bn ^immensely successful
& ws regarded as having tt
mysterious rather awe- inspiring
force wh attaches to things only
heard of - until familiarity
destroyed the illusion.
2     
14 M.G.Coy
[[?]] 47 48 Bns
14 M G Coy
Ypres
Polygon
Bulleccourt
17th Quinns
34, 35 Bn Ypres
55 Bn 53 Bn Ypres
178
On 19/20
ws on barrage in front of
Bellevarde.
On 20 Sept. came up in advance of Glencorse
Wood w 8 guns & reld 3 m.g. coy.
On 24 Sept remaining 8 guns of Coy
came up to a strong post in Glenc. Wd
to be in reserve for / attack.
On 25 Sept there ws a violent bombt
all day.
On 26 Sept at 1.30 a.m. the 8 attacking
guns moved from their positn & took
up an attacking positn in / infantry
assembling in our front line.
During this assembly / Germs
opened very heavily at abt 4a.m. but
ws shooting just over.
At 5.45 bombt began. The
infry went over at once. The guns
were in / first wave just behind /
 

 

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 Pozieres.
Before going S. to Pozieres the
1st Divn (& so probably all other
Divns) understood tt they were to
be kept for a big operation at
Messines & were, I believe, asked
to consider or practice or reconnoitre
- anyway to take some action
in view of it.
Within a few days of their
receiving / order it ws entirely
altered - & they were off at
short notice for / Somme.
2
4
moppers up. 4 of The guns were to stop
on red line where bombt stopped
45 mins.
The remaining 4 were to go on
to the Blue line. (The guns are
now simply placed in shell holes
& then in / infy positn so as
not to make a positn obvious
to aeroplanes).
There ws very little trouble
in either advance.
The second gun from / left went
up the road towds / cemetery & put his
gun in / cemetery; anoth (this
ws later blown out); another ws
100 yds further left; one ws on
the top of the Butte; & one 150 yds
rt o / Butte. Later a captd German
gun ws brought into action on the
Butte & manned by ^spare men of other
crews.
The other 4 were distributed along
 

 

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5
the Bde frontage - in the shell holes.
At 5 p.m. from the Butte were
seen dense masses of Germans advancing
from the rt front. in the flat.
The Vickers & the German gun on the
Butte mowed these fellows down.
Later the gun on / right saw them
& simply swept them down. The
Germans came like chaps coming from
a football match. S O S went up
and our arty got them. They were
abt 350 yds to 450 yds from Butte.
That aftn 4 of the reserve guns
were brought up to reinf. the defence.
One ws on the Butte, one between
Butte & rt gun on Blue line;
2 in front line.
Nothing more happened till
abt dawn Sept 27th.
Abt 50 Germans were seen. apptly
lost, making towds the rt gun in /
front line. Two of the rt guns wh
 

 

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Hand drawn diagram – see original document

small entrance
A German sniper laid
onto this from rt
flank & hit a lot of
men.
2
7
cd see very well opened on them.
Abt 75 per cent were casualties. The
rest scattered - (these were abt 150
yds away) The Germs seemed lost.
The Butte had a field of view of
abt 400 yds. There ws no
trace of German positns on /
top o / Butte.
The guns were reld on / night
of 30/1 - by a m.g. coy of the 7th
English Divn. (22nd m.g.coy).
The ^14 m.g. coy had 54 casualties
mostly in supp positns in rear
on carrying pties.
2/Lt Maughan ws killed, in a shell
hole just behind a P/B in front line; on Sept 28.
Capt Dick ws sniped going out
to find his body, & d. of w. later.
2/Lt Hill ws wd on 25 Sept before
the attack. The 14 m.g.coy won in this
/ M.C., 2 D.C.Ms., 2 .M.Ms.
Lieut Tufnell.
 

 

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Hand drawn diagram – see original document
 
Sergt Lovell on
this gun earned a M.M.
Also No 1 on the gun Pte Lindeburg.
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The Germ. c-attack on Sept 26.
The Germs were first seen
appearing in the ^low scrub half
right from the Butte abt 400
yds away. They were coming
forward pretty thick along
three breaks or tracks in the
scrub, making apptly for their
front line trench wh ws abt 50
yds ahead o / trench wh ws
occupied. This German trench
seemed to be like the rear of a
small embankment. The Germs
had to go abt 15 yds to get from
the scrub into their trench.
We had marked several positions
& had / range of them. As soon
as they got to the breaks in / scrub
the gun wd open on them.
A great number were knocked
over. For 2 or 3 hours on end
they kept trying to come up &
 

 

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reach their trench. They wd
try & get into the trench between
bursts, running across the open.
A fair number reached / trench.
They were too disorganised to
make any further attack from
this trench.
An artillery observation offr
ws up there too, & he got the
arty on - 6 in hows - & this
disorganised them. They often broke
back from / trench into / scrub.
The movement ceased just before
dusk.
On Sept 27 /28 abt 3 in the
aftn the Germs attacked the Bde
on / right - it looked like a
lot of 300 to 500 men. An offr of
53rd Bn put the sergt onto it at a
range of 1200 yds. The attack didnt
come off tt night but / party making
it seem to have bn taken prisoners
 

 

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7th Aus Bn.
24/12/17.
7 Bn Ypres.
Dear Capt. Bean,
On making
enquiries I find there is a little
difference in the detail regarding
the officer casualties of 4/5th Oct last.
Will you amend these following to
read: - 
Banks           Oct 4Shell during consolidation
Hambrook M   "      Shell on tape line
                                   during barrage
     "        R            "     Shell prior to move
                                    to assembly position.
Fears             Oct 4 M.G. during advance
                                    to 2nd objective
[[Hollyboke?]] Oct 4 M/G  Broodseinde Rd.
                                      during advance to 2nd Objective
Anderson C    Oct 4 Shell during
                                       advance but prior to
                                       reaching 1st Objective
Dear                  Oct 4 Sniper, during
                                       consolidation.
Wishing you the compliments of
the season
Kindest regards
Yours sincerely
E E Herrod Lt -Col.
 

 

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※ All these Germans had a
shiny object on their chests (wh
seemed to be armour or something
like it). On / Southern side you
cd see into the Gully.
2
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/ follg mg.
The escort cd be
seen taking them back after the
disturbance - at first it ws
tho looked from the Butte as
if they had broken thro'.
During / whole time there
were targets in pties (apptly
fatigue or ration pties) moving
about especially on / rt flank.
The German planes were
very active sniping onto our
positns - also / sniper
above mentioned. The German
arty got the range of the Butte -
(a heavy gun from / extreme right)
the night the 14 m.g. coy ws reld.
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Bullecourt: When 54 Bn ws
attacked Lt ^A.T. Brown D.C.M. had 4 guns
in the front Hindenburg line, one abt
40 yds from the right - & these guns
largely saved the situation. He only
had 2 guns at / end. He used to let
/ Germs come up pretty close before shooting.

 

 

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