Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/17/1 - September - October 1915 - Part 6

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First World War, 1914–18
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3 madern war; but I do think people of any modirn state worth living in will require some vort of information at least party independent of their generals & fen. stafs as to what is happenig; & they are not getting it in this war. I cant see any way out except for 1 correger to be allowed to be an independent pressman; & free to see what he likes - instruction to censors & Cas to that effect, and then to let I corrcspt, if he docsnt think 1 truth gets a fair show, do what others do - resign & five authorities I responsibility of mazzling him. He thinks were dying, does he? sd Bartlett tonight "Well, I'm glad were dyen? game! Had from 1 Cornwall men- also fom I canopus - an a/c0 Falkland t Battle. The Canopis sd they must have bn abt 30 miles away when I coronet fight started. They knew by wereless from 1 Good Hope tt 1 cruisers were going to fight - the last were they got from
48 te us at abt 5.30l when she sd it they were going into action. From th tie onward they only picked up pagments from 1 Glasgow.The Canopes ws tryng to get up in time - but I think she afterwos thanked her stars she didn't. We sea as very rough & night came down soon. The flasgow's signal came in saying to one of sheps ws on fire & t she thought she had sunk ten 1 nightsf 1silence; He Canopus knew of that I end had bn tragetcy, & for days she stole down coast past of islands & down to Magellan dreading every hour to 1 germans might find her. Fortunately they went in to Calparaeso to celebrate I victory & Canopis ot clear away into 1 attante to Talklandr. There she ws tied up in canes harbour - When she we scatin there they knew it ad mean her goin on I wled but they accepted to sent her in to become really a fa of fixed defencer. White she ws bas ad there Ioon two gt an cruisers Invincible & Inflexible came in, w I Cornwall Call 6 in guns 24 kn. Ship wh ws used for many
49 cruises before way as a cadets training ship - & the Glasgow & I Kent (I think it ws). The kent ws, like 1 Cornwall, a county class shep - but whether she ean had or kept her 24 ken. I can't say ofhand - I fancy she ws sower. It as rather wonderful fr the Cornwall to have kept her speed so well The Inflexible & Invincible were coaling in Tharbour when amessage came down from 1other side o1 is land from 1 hosters who had bu entertaining some of naval men at tea recently to I ships to say to some warships were in sight approaching I iand The corwall had I top off one of her cylinders at I time in they worked furiously for 2 hrs to get it on again. The ws to coal next & indeed had scarcely any coal left in her. The two battle crussers wh had I colliers alongside began stoking for all they were worth & great black fumes of smoke began to smother everything on 1inver harbour. The first actual Sign. of presence of encing ws when 1 Canopus fired a gan across I land at some
56 object unseen. Fom I fermans who were afterwors senear. savede it as heard to 1s cruisers expected to find perhaps 1 Glasgow in harbour at 1 Balklands. As they came up I look out reported to be thought he cdsee treped masts (wh of course meant very by warships in harbour of island. The greesenan' commander (the seneor officer who when survived) Id to m report came down to Captain tte Id is Imbossible, he said. Dey have bdemand cregled den dere to deceive us. But presently there came sailing across I low neak of land Canopus 12 uich Shell. They knew to this mast come fom a very much biges vessel than 1 Glasgow. Te masses of saoke it were resing from harbour showed to there were ships in there and they may have seen I tripod masts through I smoke. The German cruisers turned & made away as fast as they cd The big cruisers left o
51 haibour pert. at 2 pm. - I had morning when I german Ships were syhted. They were still visible when I by ships sleamed out, & when I carn wall got out also The by cruisers slowly overhanded them & within a couphe of hours were within long range - 17,000 yols or so. The fermans fired extraordinarity well at enormous ranges for their Ei guas wt have much byer Elevate than ours. They had our ships bracketed almost at once, after innediately began a very few salvoes & beganto) hit them. But as our shells began to tell their firing went of very quickly - A result of shattered nerves as in I case of Enden began to break out but f germans were fighting in water up to their waists (it as I think they sd a beautiful omooth day). As soon as I by cruisers overhauled of Scharmhorst & Jneesenan the German Admiral Signalled to his smally crawsers. I will engaye enemg as long as I can - you
57 It are to attempt to escape ws a very gallant signal & he carried it out to letter. The range shortened to 11,000 & finalt when I fermans were practically domne, to 4000 - 1 sermaus ded not attempt to ae a toopedo. A few men on 1greesenan & her Commander (not her captain) were saved. weanwhile I knit, Cornwall & Glasgow were pursung Leipzy Narberg & Dresdin. The Cornvall, wh seems to habe on loading slightly, took the Lep3i s the Kent took 1 Wurnberg. The flasfow found to if she followed f Dresdin She got between her & one o1 other small cruisers & so she appears not to have made any very desperate attempt to make victor complete b dogging Dresdin down. Anyway 1 Dresden got away. The other two were sunk. The Leepzig ws reduced to an atterwreck- when she ad fire no moret our men
Congue t Coitil 53 say to her crew, raker the 60 who survived, were seen drawn up on deck & I captain danding them round cigarettes The Navy, so far as I have hend it, has nothing but admirate for way in wh I ferman ships have bn fought. All 1 prisoners when qestioned abt their own sheps broke off short as soon as questioned abtt Kartoruke, given I impression to something had already happened. to her - plobably they knew it she ws already ashore somewhere. The French haison officer gave as a most lced explanation today 01 movenents Of two sides on 1 Westehn port. The British & French Cine approaches Datel border at a point between Somme Py & Rheims -opposite maestrickt. If we can get to 1enormously imporly rly centie at Mezieres maestrickt is only omles Away & Belg. wdprobl bevel be evacuated! megures is a centre for abt 5 diff rlys. He resent French move resulted in 1 capture of Lomme Py. (the Souree of Py River & a more us also made from 1 West where I have put arrows No Ix2) The Brilish advancedupon Lille - & seem weth French to have got as far as Loos. Kille is a by rly & factory cutry + all gyhtin around La Bassee is an attempt to entranger Lille.
The germans on I other haut countee S4 attacked near Vertun. Their object is to cut only rly still supplying Verdan. They have got other rly to it at S. Mihiel. The French are solt be up agat the 30d hire at 800s. The haison officer doubled of this meant anyther - there may be 20, treacues on 20r 3 wcles & it 1 almot impossible t to say whether you have reachedI support trinclles to 1 Bt line or (firetrenches of second tine distincted is largely arbitrary. Oct. 2. Ashmeet Bartlett left this by Medros. Cawles for morne England He I himself thinks to his caree as a war correspt is ended - certainly for this war. He will probably lecture in inglandy Austalia & America. of He had an extraordman on ICornwallis 10th day. The crew sent up a deputation to thank him for 1 way in wh he had written- The spokesman talked in this sort of way. We all know, Sir, I way on which Carmy has been thrown against impossible The feeling in positions sto etc. Navy agst gent Head quarters extrabiduarily bitter. The relation of two stafs is utterly impossible. In Navy is now intensely s bitter w Jan H. for having said in c some publication to corresp- ondents to 1. Gurkhas were doinen of Chunnk Bay by the navy's fire. commodore keyes is farious at this
charge. They say Hamilton made, it in a report to Russians & in hes communiue tol correspents. Itws certainly in some reports. Hamilton, when asked about it by 1 Aomeral sd he had never made I statement, & the people on the Hlagship (1iad) showed Bartlett letters from Birdwood & Godley saying to it as not I case. another hand I certainly saw reports from Godley& Alanson (who wa on 1 spot) saying to these shells were our own shells. Alanson toto we he couldn't be positive they were aot shells from 1Dardanelles (when I suggested it to him) but he clearly thought they were naval shells. probly bee they had range so wonderfully the vavy appears not to object to Ntatement to some shells fell into our own troops - but to I statement th it ws this wh lost us Chunck Bair. (of course it was G & not Chenak Bair). However Alanson ws quite depuite. what caused 1 Turkhas to run was stells. What caused I Turks to turn we seen 1 Ghrkhas run. So Bartlett has gone. He speaks as if his carieras a war concopt ws chreet. He's a shan chap - very much like Byron. Nevenson always says. He's extraordin
56 and brlliant in conversation never heard anyone who could approach him in unexpected retort. in turning every sentence he speaks into a brilliant parador to point some very encesive argument. He thinks very draight & his written dispatches are full of life & colour, hit hard, & give a brilliant idea wh is remarkabl true. He cxaperates a bit to make hiss points but I general recalt is a pretty accurate descriptio of what has happened & always vived. Hes perhaps not quite in detail. So accurate, as 1 English papers thank him, but he is most honest in giveny real sutline & trend of events. When Rass supplied him with an ap of what Moons & WZealanders he done O Aug 6 -10 I as most serpresed to see something abt 1 Maoris advancing apparently on Chamk) asing their clabbed rifles, knocking down 3 men at each blow. I knew it ws not true of this attack -8 I didn't believe it to be true of any - & I wondered at Ross writing in this way. I asked Ross & he told me as a watter of fact he

47
modern war; but I do think /
people of any modern state worth
living in will require some sort of
information at least party independent
of their generals & fen. staffs as to
what is happening; & they are not
getting tt in this war. I cant see
any way out except for / correspt
to be allowed to be an independent
pressman; & moderately free to see
what he likes - instruction to censors
& CO.s to that effect, and then to
let / correspt, if he doesnt think
/ truth gets a fair show, do what
others do - resign & give /
authorities / responsibility of
muzzling him.
"He thinks we're dying, does
he?" sd Bartlett tonight "Well, I'm
glad we're dyin' game!
Had from / Cornwall men - &
also from / canopus - an a/c o /
Falkland Is Battle. The Canopis sd
they must have bn abt 30
miles away when I coronet fight
started. They knew by wereless
from / Good Hope tt / cruisers were
going to fight - the last were they got from
 

 

48
te us at abt 5.30l when she sd it
they were going into action. From th tie
onward they only picked up pagments
from 1 Glasgow.The Canopes ws tryng
to get up in time - but I think she
afterwos thanked her stars she didn't.
We sea as very rough & night came down
soon. The flasgow's signal came in saying
to one of sheps ws on fire & t she
thought she had sunk
ten 1 nightsf 1silence; He
Canopus knew of that I end had bn
tragetcy, & for days she stole down
coast past of islands & down to
Magellan dreading every hour to
1 germans might find her. Fortunately
they went in to Calparaeso to
celebrate I victory & Canopis ot
clear away into 1 attante to
Talklandr.
There she ws tied up in
canes harbour - When she we scatin
there they knew it ad mean her goin
on I wled but they accepted to
sent her in to become really a fa
of fixed defencer. White she ws
bas
ad
there Ioon two gt an
cruisers Invincible & Inflexible
came in, w I Cornwall Call 6 in guns
24 kn. Ship wh ws used for many
 

 

49
cruises before way as a cadets training
ship - & the Glasgow & I Kent (I think
it ws). The kent ws, like 1 Cornwall,
a county class shep - but whether
she ean had or kept her 24 ken. I
can't say ofhand - I fancy she ws
sower. It as rather wonderful fr the
Cornwall to have kept her speed so well
The Inflexible & Invincible were
coaling in Tharbour when amessage
came down from 1other side o1 is land
from 1 hosters who had bu entertaining
some of naval men at tea recently
to I ships to say to some warships
were in sight approaching I iand
The corwall had I top off one of her
cylinders at I time in they worked
furiously for 2 hrs to get it on again.
The ws to coal next & indeed had
scarcely any coal left in her. The
two battle crussers wh had I colliers
alongside began stoking for
all they were worth & great black
fumes of smoke began to smother
everything on 1inver harbour. The
first actual Sign. of presence of
encing ws when 1 Canopus fired
a gan across I land at some
 

 

50
object unseen.
Fom I fermans who were afterwors
senear.
savede it as heard to 1s cruisers
expected to find perhaps 1 Glasgow
in harbour at 1 Balklands. As they
came up I look out reported to be
thought he cdsee treped masts (wh
of course meant very by warships
in harbour of island. The greesenan'
commander (the seneor officer who
when
survived) Id to m report came down
to Captain tte
Id is Imbossible, he said. Dey
have bdemand cregled den
dere to deceive us.
But presently there came sailing
across I low neak of land
Canopus 12 uich Shell. They knew
to this mast come fom a very
much biges vessel than 1 Glasgow.
Te masses of saoke it were resing
from harbour showed to there
were ships in there and they may
have seen I tripod masts through
I smoke. The German cruisers
turned & made away as fast
as they cd
The big cruisers left o
 

 

51
haibour pert. at 2 pm. - I had
morning when I german
Ships were syhted. They were still
visible when I by ships sleamed out,
& when I carn wall got out also
The by cruisers slowly overhanded
them & within a couphe of hours were
within long range - 17,000 yols or so.
The fermans fired extraordinarity
well at enormous ranges for their
Ei guas wt have much byer
Elevate than ours. They had our
ships bracketed almost at once, after
innediately began a very few salvoes
& beganto) hit them. But as our
shells began to tell their firing went
of very quickly - A result of
shattered nerves as in I case of
Enden began to break out
but f germans were fighting in
water up to their waists (it as I
think they sd a beautiful omooth
day).
As soon as I by cruisers
overhauled of Scharmhorst & Jneesenan
the German Admiral Signalled to
his smally crawsers. I will engaye
enemg as long as I can - you
 

 

57
It
are to attempt to escape
ws a very gallant signal & he
carried it out to letter. The
range shortened to 11,000 & finalt
when I fermans were practically domne,
to 4000 - 1 sermaus ded not
attempt to ae a toopedo. A few
men on 1greesenan & her Commander
(not her captain) were saved.
weanwhile I knit, Cornwall
& Glasgow were pursung Leipzy
Narberg & Dresdin. The
Cornvall, wh seems to habe on loading
slightly, took the Lep3i s the
Kent took 1 Wurnberg. The flasfow
found to if she followed f Dresdin
She got between her & one o1
other small cruisers & so she
appears not to have made
any very desperate attempt
to make victor complete b
dogging Dresdin down. Anyway
1 Dresden got away. The other
two were sunk. The Leepzig ws
reduced to an atterwreck- when
she ad fire no moret our men
 

 

Congue
t
Coitil
 

53
say to her crew, raker the
60 who survived, were seen drawn
up on deck & I captain danding
them round cigarettes
The Navy, so far as I have hend
it, has nothing but admirate for
way in wh I ferman ships have bn
fought. All 1 prisoners when
qestioned abt their own sheps
broke off short as soon as questioned
abtt Kartoruke, given I impression
to something had already happened.
to her - plobably they knew it she
ws already ashore somewhere.
The French haison officer gave as
a most lced explanation today
01 movenents Of two sides on 1 Westehn
port. The British & French Cine
approaches Datel border at a point
between Somme Py & Rheims -opposite
maestrickt. If we can get to 1enormously imporly
rly centie at Mezieres maestrickt is only
omles Away & Belg. wdprobl bevel
be evacuated! megures is a centre for abt
5 diff rlys. He resent French move
resulted in 1 capture of Lomme Py. (the Souree
of Py River & a more us also made from 1
West where I have put arrows No Ix2)
The Brilish advancedupon Lille - & seem weth
French to have got as far as Loos. Kille is a by
rly & factory cutry + all gyhtin around
La Bassee is an attempt to entranger Lille.
 

 

The germans on I other haut countee S4
attacked near Vertun. Their object is
to cut only rly still supplying Verdan.
They have got other rly to it at S. Mihiel.
The French are solt be up agat the 30d
hire at 800s. The haison officer doubled of
this meant anyther - there may be 20,
treacues on 20r 3 wcles & it 1 almot
impossible t to say whether you
have reachedI support trinclles to 1 Bt line
or (firetrenches of second tine distincted
is largely arbitrary.
Oct. 2. Ashmeet Bartlett left this
by Medros. Cawles for
morne
England He I himself thinks to his caree
as a war correspt is ended - certainly
for this war. He will probably lecture in
inglandy Austalia & America.
of
He had an extraordman
on ICornwallis 10th day. The
crew sent up a deputation to thank
him for 1 way in wh he had written-
The spokesman talked in this sort of way.
We all know, Sir, I way on which Carmy
has been thrown against impossible
The feeling in
positions sto etc.
Navy agst gent Head quarters
extrabiduarily bitter. The relation of
two stafs is utterly impossible. In Navy
is now intensely s bitter w Jan H. for
having said in c some publication to corresp-
ondents to 1. Gurkhas were doinen of
Chunnk Bay by the navy's fire.
commodore keyes is farious at this
 

 

charge. They say Hamilton made, it
in a report to Russians & in hes
communiue tol correspents. Itws
certainly in some reports. Hamilton,
when asked about it by 1 Aomeral
sd he had never made I statement,
& the people on the Hlagship (1iad) showed
Bartlett letters from Birdwood & Godley
saying to it as not I case. another
hand I certainly saw reports from Godley&
Alanson (who wa on 1 spot) saying to these shells
were our own shells. Alanson toto we he
couldn't be positive they were aot shells from
1Dardanelles (when I suggested it to him) but
he clearly thought they were naval shells.
probly bee they had range so wonderfully
the vavy appears not to object to
Ntatement to some shells fell into our
own troops - but to I statement th it ws
this wh lost us Chunck Bair. (of
course it was G & not Chenak Bair).
However Alanson ws quite depuite.
what caused 1 Turkhas to run was
stells. What caused I Turks to
turn we seen 1 Ghrkhas run.
So Bartlett has gone. He
speaks as if his carieras a war
concopt ws chreet. He's a shan
chap - very much like Byron.
Nevenson always says. He's extraordin
 

 

56
and brlliant in conversation
never heard anyone who could
approach him in unexpected retort.
in turning every sentence he speaks into
a brilliant parador to point some
very encesive argument. He thinks
very draight & his written dispatches
are full of life & colour, hit hard, & give
a brilliant idea wh is remarkabl true.
He cxaperates a bit to make hiss points
but I general recalt is a pretty
accurate descriptio of what has happened
& always vived. Hes perhaps not quite
in detail.
So accurate, as 1 English papers thank
him, but he is most honest in giveny
real sutline & trend of events. When Rass
supplied him with an ap of what
Moons & WZealanders he done O
Aug 6 -10 I as most serpresed to
see something abt 1 Maoris advancing
apparently on Chamk) asing their
clabbed rifles, knocking down 3 men
at each blow. I knew it ws not true
of this attack -8 I didn't believe it
to be true of any - & I wondered at
Ross writing in this way. I asked Ross
& he told me as a matter of fact he
 

 

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