Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/17/1 - September - October 1915 - Part 1

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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of CE W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR160617717 Title: Diary, September - October 1975 Mentions writing about bayonet charges, Ashmead-Bartett, censorship, HW Nevinson, Mitylene and the French. AWMISS-SDRLCOGHTH
7c AF P N.AY. an t te t 30RL 60 eN AAM3 DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so — but it does not follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind. AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL 16 Sept, 1946. C. E. W. BEAN. ACC-SS STATUS RectEEEEEEE KEELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMSSSSSESNIE RCSSSENSN ReCtEEEEEEEEE C
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Book 17 (omitted in first draft of this interim index) 1111 (Sept)2l, 1915) Brit-reputatn with greeks rests on belief in our perfidy! Ne Keave Mitylene (Sept.22) an Latona. 1712 Mitylene's inland harbour. Life in a minelayer. 15 Early days up the Straits. Turks showing signs of fatigue. 14-5 Navy expects to have to go thro'. Canopus and our boats on Apr.25 & s½bs 1715 (Sept.23). Midros again. Europa, Naval H.9. 1716-7. Only one Aust.V.C.so far. 3 A.G.H.at Mudros - hardships. Navy helps. 1718-9 Wounded of Aug-6-10. French foreign legion stunt, Saros. 19-10. Germ.planes ofer G.H.Q. Imbros. (now A.H.Q.7) 110-11 Bulgaria in the war. Greece mobilising. Bartlett and Ross back from Mitylene. Turner’s bloodthirsty tales. Sept 26. 112-13. Early days ((ay 2) at Cape Helles. The truth about war. Why I can't write about bayonet charges as some do. 114. False heroies, and the truth. 15 Psychology of battle- heroism - and Australian quality. 17716 (Sept 28) Back to Anzac. (Sept2) Bartlett sent homs — Murdoch carriesm letter. 117. Austolst Battery at Helles. Bartlett's letter discussed. (18 No hope in Bartlett's favourite Bulair Offensive. Bartlett and Cabinet. His recall. 119 Delme Radcliffe, Tyrrell, and H.W.Nevinson. 17120 (Sept.30) Inconsistencies of the censorship. I go to Helles to see our bat teries there. French leaving - 70 troopships. Rumours of landing project (Bulair)-real project, Servia. First rumour of our leaving Anzac(from Col.Swinton, via Ross's son.) Argus and Ageto discontinue my letters. 124 My vier of reason for this - they take Reuter’s Heus from Cairo, which is largely untrue but suits better. 121-2 Tyrrell sees me, but I wontt object to it. Discussion with Tyrrell (Ch. Intelligence offr) on War Correspts. The military view. 123 My view on importance of telling the truth. Bartlett's comment. 123-6 Battle of Coronel and Falkland Is (from H.M.S.Cornwall). 126-7. Account from French officer of fighting in France. 17127 Ashmead Bartlett. Cornwallis crew for him. Keyes v.Hamilton overinavalffire RESTKARESEREIEx on Aug.14 9 on Chunuk Pair. 128 October 2nd. Comments on Bartlett (from Nevinson etc). 20 Bartlett's wark life. H.N.Nevinson. (30-1). 132 Bartlett's repartee and style. Warned by G.H.Q.lester Larrence. 133 Nevinson's wound. W,. Maxwell censor and former correspt. Their experience. 134 Wagner’s lies, and Maxwell. Maxwell on the old game. Bennett Burleigh 25 Smiler Hales and others. Naxwell as war correspt. 136 Bartlett: Even a flea... Our villaton Imbros. Delme again-
Da Sept. 21 5 Oc. 14 Tesday Sept 21 Heard yesterda one of the Mitytene paper - the Leabos, under german, an(lience:, publichet that Enver Pasha had said that the Sermans were coming to Turkeys help thro' Bulgaria, with 400,000 men. The rival paper came out with an even more rociti special about -16 divisions. (or vice versa). The greeks seemd to me afterwars it way have bu fancy but I dont quite thinks so - to be a little inclined to be insolent These small nations are regular jackals, yapping at everyoned beels - Even those of their best friend if they think for a moment te is in dificatien things are turning against him. Halkinson who knows them well tells me toought at our ropulation & prestige here now rest on their belief in our perfidy - they still repect in because they think we are strong but are playing a treacherous
The town atmonth of the R. Morava - I forget Iname. same with Rassia. They say England cd prevent R. being defeated if she wished to do so; but she is holding back at present bec. She doesnt want to see Russia too strong - 3o she is letting her ally be beaten she will slip in presently? So they are still ready to fawr on as & attach themselves to as - the people, I mean, not the rulers - because they think we are strong Tonight comes a Greek telegram that the Germans success fully Combarded in Servia at 8 0'clock today. This is the servian town in their path to Bulfarian they follow the Railway. Wed. Sept 22. Lept Mitzylene to day came over to Cangeas where we has tea (a beautiful tea with cakes + nice clean English crockers; in the nice clean wardroom). At 9.30, in a real gale, we left for the Latona - the
oldest cruiner in. I navy; built about 1884 & now used as a winedayer. They had been expecting as to dinner & had and a special diinc for us- I am sorry we did not let thim know. Here as in the Canopas they have a crow very largely consisting of Royal Naval Volwalteers.The old R.N.U.R has turned out invaluable in spite of the half derisive treatmant which they aned to get at the hands of the authorities - kven the moter boat reseive is doin splended work over here The Latona turan round a big circle on this inland sea & without a light showing went silently out of wehanee comple of Serhlights the narrow month of this wonderful harbour. It weads wnke a river theroagh Tg Wells -barch a stones know from side to side. We had our searchlight turned on the buoys all they have up all down I channel; half way down is a small island from wh we have laid nets - one ws open for us to pass An acctytene searchlight was turned on I channel fom erther bank -low down on 1 waters edge. sometimes, when the come out, there appears in I hills a fire they say it is sure to be a signal to an Submariues PParks or 1 Ger n accatic shore. I have seen such a cignal I times on Imbros from Anzdc It may have been nothing - but in overry case it came from I same corner of island. and in one case only lasted 3 menates. It
we have also Awale Harbour filld a our mines - some Turkish boats came down 1 other night to try & interfte ao thet mines but were prevented. While we were there a monitor & a trawles sleamed in behind Pigos, & went away again 2 yours. I dont know what business they came on, but it was strangs to see them float across this perfect oleograph of a landsceps. must have be reported for 1 Luboos polici. told me they had to lie out & watch for such a fire - but they never found one This night as we went out there was no fire to I saw. It was fullmoon but too sough for submarines to work well. Besides, the Latonia went out one night & very quielly filled I siyina sulf up w 400 menes - which ought to bottle it up & apparently I tarks never saw her. Its daugerous worth minetaying - even mine carrying. One hit & up you go The Princess Irene (I think it was) is only one bit so far – & the went ap to clouds. The newes are stowed ont upper deck on two long races - between rails- like races in a sheep yard. They drat out over sotern?. They have all sorts of safety catches & deveces but I think I crew oficers are all very happy when I last beastly machine plumps over 1 stern. In Icanopes they told as they had be further up I straits than any othr waiship exaept Ametyst. She sot to a point very little wooth of Kephes Point & not far off it - & the Canoous early in proceedings weat up blaging at searchlyfts very nearly as far- a se little S. of the point. The amethiyget was not seen until she started signali with her searchlight . Then she got it.
pretty not, but every shell was over the waterline - The nade as water. In those days 1 canopas used to stop for lunch quite far up 1 Dardanelles- there wasn't a gun there. Now they can scarcely get into Morto Bay - every time they get into it they are hit if they stay still Heead In 1 old days I only people they saw down, as the Kereves Dere & those valleys were Turkish Spectators - toking on. Now 1 valles especially the third, S -Dere, are full of fins & lots on the Asig Side. Some of forts have a beaour armament tan a battleship - cheeft big batteries of 8 in guns, but several 14.2 11.2, &9.C. Some vaval guns have just started to shell Baba at Lubla Bay. They are mounted high. On whole though, I wurks darent move their suns from 1 straits. May of these Straits uns are sd to be old. The poeben & the Hamidich have been out again & I tarks are raining new Army corps in place of ones by lost in 1 cancasns they cant arm them except i old rifles some of wh, martines & others, are now appearing at Saola & Anzac. All I same I tunks show some orgus of teridan we get abt 2 desertis a day & there ar bands of desertiss roaming will down I country behind Awali. The turs
got 6 of them to come in 1other day, & at once sent tem up to Gallipoli where they will prebably be publicly shot – wh will stop this sort of desertion. But to return to Enopis. The Hayed down at 1 mont oI straits while Iothers went up - they were to bombard 1 forts for I mine sweepers to get to work - & Canopas & Cornwakis were to so up straits last of all late at night. of course their turn never came They heard of duacter abt7 that nyht that cdn'd see what ws happening. They still think I feeted get through probably losing all ships except last 2 or 3 - & the half thank the will be asked to do so. Yours tarn now, I goot will say - they tak of it with a laugh as of they meant Poordd wavy - I suppose will have to doit! They practically all work in lifebelts now when they rear Sea - there are several sorts, gir cushions, capok, also great buoys wh wd float about 60 men - dramel abt 10 feet. when they fires at searchlysts

AWM38
Official History,
1914-18 War: Records of CE W Bean,
Official Historian.
Diaries and Notebooks
Item number: 3DR1606/17/1
Title: Diary, September - October 1915
Mentions writing about bayonet charges,
Ashmead-Bartlett, censorship, H W Nevinson,
Mitylene and the French.
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Oct '15

Original.   DIARY No. 17.
AWM38       3DRL 606 ITEM 17 [1]
DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918
THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.
These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;
also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so — but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.
These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch
for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
16 Sept, 1946.   C. E. W. BEAN.
AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN

 

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Book 17 (omitted in first draft of this interim index)
17/1 (Sept ) 2l, 1915.) Brit.reputatn with greeks rests on belief in our perfidy!
We Keave Mitylene (Sept.22) in Latona.
17/2 Mitylene's inland harbour. Life in a minelayer.
/3 Early days up the Straits. Turks showing signs of fatigue.
/4-5 Navy expects to have to go thro'. Canopus and our boats on Apr.25 & S/bs
17/5 (Sept.23). Mudros again. Europa, Naval H.9.
17/6-7. Only one Aust. V.C. so far. 3 A.G.H. at Mudros - hardships. Navy helps.
17/8-9 Wounded of Aug.6-10. French foreign legion stunt, Saros.
/9-10. Germ. planes over G.H.Q. Imbros. (now A.H.Q. ?)
/10-11 Bulgaria in the war. Greece mobilising.
Bartlett and Ross back from Mitylene. Turner’s bloodthirsty tales. Sept 26.
/12-13. Early days (? May 2) at Cape Helles. The truth about war. Why I can't
write about bayonet charges as some do.
/14. False heroics, and the truth.
/15 Psychology of battle - heroism - and Australian quality.
17/16 (Sept 28.) Back to Anzac. (Sept 29) Bartlett sent home - Murdoch carriesm
letter.
/17. Aust. 1st Battery at Helles. Bartlett's letter discussed.
/18 No hope in Bartlett's favourite Bulair Offensive. Bartlett and Cabinet.
His recall.
/19 Delme Radcliffe, Tyrrell, and H.W. Nevinson.
17/20 (Sept.30) Inconsistencies of the censorship. I go to Helles to see our batteries 
there. French leaving - 30 troopships. Rumours of landing
project (Bulair) -real project, Servia. First rumour of our leaving
Anzac (from Col.Swinton, via Ross's son.)
Argus and Age to discontinue my letters.
/21 My view of reason for this - they take Reuter’s news from Cairo, which is
largely untrue but suits better.
/21-2 Tyrrell sees me, but I won't object to it. Discussion with Tyrrell (Ch.
Intelligence offr) on War Correspts. The military view.
/23 My view on importance of telling the truth. Bartlett's comment.
/23-6 Battle of Coronel and Falkland Is (from H.M.S.Cornwall).
/26-7. Account from French officer of fighting in France.
17/27 Ashmead Bartlett. Cornwallis crew for him. Keyes v. Hamilton over ? naval ? fire
xxxxxxxxxx on Aug. 13 9 on Chunuk Bair.
/28 October 2nd. Comments on Bartlett (from Nevinson etc).
/30 Bartlett's work life. H.W. Nevinson. (30-1).
/32 Bartlett's repartee and style. Warned by G.H.Q. Lester Lawrence.
/33 Nevinson's wound. W, Maxwell censor and former correspt. Their experience.
/34 Wagner’s lies, and Maxwell. Maxwell on "the old game". Bennett Burleigh
35 Smiler Hales and others.
/Maxwell as war correspt.
/36 Bartlett: "Even a flea..." Our "villa" on Imbros. Delme again.

 

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Diary
- Sept. 21 to Oct. 4
Tuesday Sept 21. Heard yesterday
one of the Mitylene paper - the Lesbos,
under German influence, published
that the Ger Enver Pasha had said
that the Germans were coming to
Turkeys help thro' Bulgaria,
with 400,000 men. The rival paper
came out with an even more exciting
special about 16 divisions. (or vice
versa). The Greeks seemed to me afterwds
- it may have bn fancy but I dont quite
think so - to be a little inclined to
be insolent - These small nations
are regular jackals, yapping at
everyone's heels - even those of their
best friend if they think for a moment
he is in difficulties things are turning
against him. Hatkinson who knows
them well tells me tonight tt our
reputation & prestige here now rest
on their belief in our perfidy - they
still respect us because they think we
are strong but are playing a treacherous

 

The town at / mouth
of the R. Morava - I
forget / name.

game with Russia. They say "England
cd prevent R. being defeated if
she wished to do so; but she is holding
back at present bec. she doesnt want
to see Russia too strong - so she is
letting her ally be beaten - she will
slip in presently." So they are still
ready to fawn on us & attach themselves
to us - the people, I mean, not the
rulers - because they think we are
strong.
Tonight comes a Greek telegram
that the Germans successfully
bombarded Sassandos S________ in Servia
at 8 o'clock today. This is the
Servian town in their path to
Bulgaria if they follow the Railway.
Wed. Sept 22. Left Mitylene today.
Came over to / Canopus where we
had tea (a beautiful tea with cakes
& nice clean English crackers; in the
nice clean wardroom). At 9.30, in
a real gale, we left for the Latona - the

 

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oldest cruiser in / navy, built about
1884 & now used as a minelayer.
They had been expecting us to dinner & had
raised a special dinner for us - I am
sorry we did not let them know.
Here as in the Canopus they have
a crew very largely consisting of Royal
Naval Volunteers. The old R.N.V.R has
turned out invaluable in spite of the half
derisive treatment which they used to get
at the hands of the authorities - even the
motor boat reserve is doing splendid work
over here.
The Latona turned round a big circle
on this inland sea & without a light
showing went silently out of we had seen
couple of searchlights wh the the narrow
month of this wonderful harbour. It
winds like a river through the hills
- barely a stones throw from side to
side. We had our searchlight turned
on the buoys as they hove up all
down / channel; halfway down is
a small island from wh we have laid
nets - one ws opened for us to pass.
An acetylene searchlight was
turned on / channel from either
bank - low down on / waters edge.
Sometimes, when they come out,
there appears in / hills a fire
- they say it is sure to be a signal to
/ Turks or / German submarines
on / Asiatic shore. I have seen such
a signal 3 times on Imbros from Anzac
It may have been nothing - but in every
case it came from / same corner o / island.
and in one case only lasted 3 minutes. It

 

we have also Aivali Harbour
filled w our mines - some Turkish
boats came down / other night to
try & interfere w these mines but
were prevented. While we were there
a monitor & a trawler steamed
in behind Pinyos, & went away again
- 2 of ours. I dont know what business
they came on, but it was strange to
see them float across this perfect
oleograph of a landscape.
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must have bn reported for / Imbros police
told me they had to lie out & watch for such
a fire - but they never found one - 
This night as we went out there
was no fire tt I saw. It was full moon
but too rough for submarines to work well.
Besides, the Latona went out one night
& very quietly filled / Smyrna Gulf up w
400 mines - which ought to bottle it up
& apparently / Turks never saw her.
Its dangerous work mine laying - even
mine carrying. One hit & up you go.
The Princess Irene (I think it was) is /
only one hit so far – & she went up to /
clouds. The mines are stowed on / upper
deck on two long races - between rails -
like races in a sheep yard. They drop out
over / stern. They have all sorts of safety
catches & devices but I think / crew &
officers are all very happy when / last
beastly machine plumps over / stern.
In / Canopus they told us they
had bn further up / straits than any other
warship except / Amethyst. She got
to a point very little North of Kephez
Point & not far off it - & the Canopus
early in / proceedings went up blazing
at searchlights very nearly as far -
a see little S. of the point. The Amethyst
was not seen until she started signalling
with her searchlight . Then she got it

 

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pretty hot, but every shell was over the
waterline - she made no water.
In those days / Canopus used to stop
for lunch quite far up / Dardanelles -
there wasn't a gun there. Now they can
scarcely get into Morto Bay - every time
they get into it they are hit if they stay still.
Heead In / old days / only people
they saw down in the Kereves Derė & those
valleys were Turkish spectators - looking
on. Now / valleys especially, the third,
S____ Dere, are full of guns & lots on the
Asia Side. Some o / forts have a heavier
armament than a battleship - chiefy
big batteries of 8 in guns, but several
14.2 11.2, & 9.4. [Some Naval guns
have just started to shell ...  Baba at Suvla
Bay. They are mounted high. On / whole
though, / Turks daren't move their
guns from / straits. Many of these Straits
guns are sd to be old. The Goeben &
the Hamidieh have been out again &
/ Turks are raising new army corps
in place o / ones they lost in / Caucasus.
They cant arm them, except w old rifles
some of wh, Martinis & others, are
now appearing at Suvla & Anzac.
All / same / Turks show some signs of tiredness
- we get abt 2 deserters a day & there
are bands of deserters roaming wild
down / country behind Aivali. The Turks

 

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got 6 of them to come in / other day, &
at once sent them up to Gallipoli where
they will probably be publicly shot – wh
will stop this sort of desertion.]
But to return to Canopus. She stayed
down at / mouth o / straits while / others
went up - they were to bombard / forts
for / mine sweepers to get to work - &
/ Canopus & Cornwallis were to go up /
straits xxxxxx last of all - late at night.
Of course their turn never came.
They heard o / disaster abt 7 that night -
they cdn't see what ws happening.
They still think / fleet cd get through
- probably losing all ships except /
last 2 or 3 - & they half think they
will be asked to do so. "You're turn
now," / Govt will say - they talk of
it with a laugh as if they meant
"Poor old Navy - I suppose we'll
have to do it." They practically all
work in lifebelts now when they're at
sea - there are several sorts, air
cushions, capok; also great ^life buoys
wh wd float about 60 men - diameter
abt 10 feet.
When they fired at searchlights /

 
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