Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/10/1 - June - September 1915 - Part 14

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Cott Coer 20 thro' "the head. In his hand was a bit of paper & on it he had written his name seroff or some such - of the 15Bn - a man evetcully of Rassian descent. They buried him there poer I got a photo! grave to my friend standing by it. I went on inquirie after the Bn in wh Brentwoad men abeve – was told it was the 4th. Poor little chaps they struck weas wretched little specinens of men dirty skinny rather spiritless. I saw some of them, battiny on the beach & you could tell immediattely they werent Australians - they were tiuI half fomed with small mesires & delicate white skins - you co tell our a Austialiens atonc by their unmense phyys goe. Id found the quartermasters store of the Glssex Regt & asked if Charlis Taylor - Capt Taylor- were stll with them, Major Carglor? be sd tober hes as command! I was awfully pleased? at once coent off to find, him. He wa in the 15h Tives, & has for his adjutant one cooper, who turned out to be one of thencllionanes owns a gg poydney, He was pleasant enough without much in the way Teither of brains or 90 I should say and inchid to be of the animal type. Ald
May 1. 1914 I think this was widg anafasta an te ne ate fe the buto 500 Co Ca 124 Charlie was not an atome altered Since I last saw him - very little since his school days. They let him command his on for 6monts in England & then just before it left gave it a retired colorel. a very lovable, brave oldman but quite on the shelp!. When the regt landed at Suola on August E12, & was put in on the left. - on the Razor Back? the Col. insistes on taking the right in an advance & sent Charles off to lead the left Consquently there us no one with their reserves at all. They have lost 4brD officers &. The only remaining captain is moyan ower, the old Ofiel soccer Phie, FT Bn has now 10 officers & 450men out of about 29 offs & 1750. Charlie tells me the British scouts were in anefarta the carly in 1 proceedings, & were withosson by old, stappord bee. he as apaid t edn't get water there! Monash today to to me also th an oficer who ws w him told him to he himself was in Anefarta, + day a tranck across the village, & so it probably was the Britest that O Gorman saw there after all.
25 well the problin of Calhpoli reduces itself to + why cant the British fight. Take one of these slum kids & turn him into a different fow by 900 10 years hard training or even ress - a putin a set of m.Co. o over him who have with enough to make the slickers of the army - the percentay whogo into action wy their mend made ago to steck & who really make up the minds of the other 90/0 who are simply going in Co do what somebody else does. give him that training & those N.C.Oso he can fight tike the 29th Dion did: But in a years toamning be cant be tarmed into a soldier because to lett I truth he a very poor feeble specimen of a man -& it seems to be 1 Birtish social formala to make sure that he sticks there. In a nation wonly one class, like our own, its in nobody's interest to keep anyone else "in his place - his place is from his berth, the best place he can get + keep. To my mind this war as far as I have seen it is just Briteis
126 tomohawks coming home to roost the great mass of English today are no more like the Eng. who fought at Waterloo, than the Eng. o waterloo were like (Trened or I.Italien or 1spantards. They have neither Inere 1 physigus nor 11 Spirit & self control to fit (them) for soldiers. Ther was a regular T Combardmut at 50/C. They have unnelled that the Abdil Rahman ridge as two points I roe their pund out 90 now&then to fere into the backs of N. Zealanders on the Apex. It think they neally were doing thiy, (4 shells at a time (& had to turn their other guns nall our batteries within sight in order to keep as quiet, were never hit theis tunnels, tho they are large enough in all consciens. well I cdng help wondern when thes ferig wo on wheter it wees a Bombandment before an attack and, if 50 what the commed in front of us woel do. Our men 15 pead teir tin prayin for a Turket attack - They know thy can beat the tark & wdbe tent quite o1 turk were firi
in order to cover wer their trugke, to set dowin an atrack, to sit down in 1 bottom 61 trench and wdid tell I fire stacking or first Turkish heads appeared over (top of paripiel. But these tonnaices are I wervaw O L Tark Charlie tehe rade hep thee wouldat be an advance as he didn't quite know what his men ad doand tha is the impression of all our officers who have stew then. Rapig fiy broke and waht) twice and early once ato 10pm Ross tell me he asked old Hughe the Bgigadier if he had spen me No he never comes near us sd the old man,. The War Correspt, I mean! sd Yes. I hate tem the brates sd RUss Huyhes. Te old py. He smites to onesface asks one to stop for dinner & what can be do for one o introduces one to all the consed, son's & rest of the family on his staft & then talks like this belind ones back. As a matter of fact I went up to see this aged snot before my wound was well & strayby round on a steck, at the oisk of opening it ap again, an order to get detail of the very fine chargemade by his men. (Birdwood totome when they sent this poor old decrepit offon a hospital shy
126 that he ferventhy hoped he wdns come back. Bat I believe the old man rocaped from the doctors hands away back before they ad calch him. Schales told me some sort of letter was sent t to the medical authoribl abl himthey were very vexed when they heard, he had gone. But fancy - (if at is true - faney having to remave your ancient C.O in this coaly Had an interesting tak with Monash Heis an able C.Q, but never knows the facts, abt his command. The tomness are lettirg the Turks woalk about in the open in the Scrub behind their trenches (the Turks truche that is) & up & down a Commn truch quite cufiledy by them. I asked cooper how far away. He Sd-oh abt $400 ydo 11 and morgan own told me the periseope reply ws no use - you couldn't hold it sleady. One sniper (is making that branch of the valley unlivable + they cant find him. Chas. Taylor toto me he wished they only had an Aushalian emper with then - they had one at suola & he was invaluable- Es It we just had him to so amongst our fellows hesd
M Harys Shn ry tryce
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Capt Craig. X
Q M 15 Bn
 

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thro' the head. In his hand was a bit of
paper & on it he had written his name
- Seroff or some such - of the 15Bn - a
man evidently of Russian descent. They buried
him there, the pioneers; & I got a photo o /
grave w my friend x standing by it.
I went on inquiring after the Bn
in wh / Brentwood men were – was told it
was the 4th. Poor little chaps they struck
me as wretched little specimens of men
- dirty skinny rather spiritless. I saw
some of them bathing on the beach & you
could tell immediately they werent
Australians - they were tiny half formed
with small muscles & delicate white
skins - you cd tell our all Australians
at once by their immense physique.
I asked found the quartermasters
store of the 4 Essex Regt & asked if Charlie
Taylor - Capt Taylor- were still with
them. "Major Taylor?" he sd. "Why he's
in command." I was awfully pleased &
at once went off to find him. He ws
in the 15th lines, & has for his adjutant
one Cooper, who turned out to be one of
the millionaires tt owns a half a great part of Sydney.
He was pleasant enough without
much in the way either of brains or
go - I should say and inclined to be
rather of the animal type. Old
 

 

 

May. 11. 1924
I think this was wrong - 
the huts at Anafarta
Ova may be mistaken for
Anafarta.
CEWB
 

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Charlie was not an atom altered
since the I last saw him - very little since
his school days. They let him command his
bn for 6 months in England & then just
before it left gave it a retired colonel - 
a very lovable, brave old man but quite
on the shelf. When the regt landed at
Suvla on August 6 12 & was put in
on the left - on the "Razor Back" the
Col. insisted on taking the right in an
advance & sent Charlie off to lead the
left. Consequently there ws no one
with their reserves at all. They have
lost 4 or 5 officers k. The only remaining captain
is Morgan Owen, the old Oriel soccer Blue,
& / Bn has now 10 officers & 450 men
out of about 29 offrs & 750.
Charlie tells me the British
scouts were in Anafarta that
early in / proceedings, & were withdrawn
by old Stopford bec. he ws afraid they
cdn't get water there!
Monash today told me also tt an
officer who ws w him told him tt he
himself was in Anafarta x, & dug a trench
across the village; & so it probably was
the British that O'Gorman saw there
after all.
 

 

 

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Well the problem of Gallipoli reduces
itself to - why cant the British fight.
Take one of these slum kids & turn him
into a different man by 9 or 10 years
hard training or even less - & put in
a set of N.C.O.s over him who have will
enough to make the stickers of the
army - the percentage who go into
action w their minds made up to stick
& who really make up the minds of the
other 90% who are simply going in to
do what somebody else does; give
him that training & those N.C.Os & he can
fight like the 29th Divn did. But in a
years training he cant be turned into a
soldier because to tell / truth he's a
very poor feeble specimen of a man
- & it seems to be / British social formula
to make sure that he sticks there. In
a nation w only one class, like our
own, its in nobody's interest to keep
anyone else "in his place" - his place is
from his birth, the best place he can get
& keep. To my mind this war as far
as I have seen it is just Britains
 

 

 

126
tomohawks coming home to roost - the
great mass of English today are no more like
the Eng. who fought at Waterloo, than the
waterl Eng. of Waterloo were like / French or
/ Italians or / Spaniards. They have neither
/ nerve, / physique nor / spirit & self
control to fit them for soldiers.
There was a regular T. bombardment
at 5 o'c. They have tunnelled thro the
Abdul Rahman ridge at two points
[diagram-see original]

& run their
guns out
now & then
to fire into
the backs o / N. Zealanders on the Apex.
I think they really were doing this, 4 shells
at a time & had to turn their other guns
on all our batteries within sight in
order to keep us quiet, We've never
hit these tunnels tho they are large
enough in all conscience.
Well - I cdn't help wondering
when this firing ws on whether it was a
Bombardment before an attack - and,
if so, what the Tommies in front of us
wd do. Our men spend their time
praying for a Turkisht attack - they
know they can beat the Turk & wd be
quite content, if / Turk were firing
 

 

 

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over their trenches, to sit down in in order to cover an attack, to
sit down in / bottom o / trench and wait
till / fire slackened or / first Turkish heads
appeared over / top o / parapet. But these
Tommies are nervous o / Turk. Charlie
told me he rather hoped there wouldnt be
an advance as he didn't quite know what
his men wd do. And that is the impression
of all our officers who have seen them.
Rapid firing broke out tonight twice
- once early, once abt 10 p.m.
Ross tells me he asked old Hughes
the Brigadier if he had seen me . "No, he
never comes near us" sd the old
man, "The War Correspt, I mean," sd
Ross. "Yes - I hate them the brutes," sd
Hughes.
The old pig. He smiles to ones face &
asks one to stop for dinner & what can he
do for one - & introduces one to all the
cousins, sons & rest of the family on his staff
- & then talks like this behind one's
back. As a matter of fact I went up to
see this aged snob before my wound
was well - struggling round on a stick,
at the risk of opening it up again, in
order to get details of the very fine
charge made by his men. Birdwood
told me when they sent this poor
old decrepit off on a hospital ship
 

 

 

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that he fervently hoped he wdn't come
back. But I believe the old man escaped
from the doctors hands ^in Egypt & got away back before
they cd catch him. Schuler told me some sort of
letter was sent by to the medical authorities
abt him & they were very vexed when
they heard he had gone.
But fancy - if it is true - fancy having
to remove your ancient C.Os in this way.
Had an interesting talk with
Monash. He is an able C.O. but never
knows the facts abt his command.
The Tommies are letting letting the
Turks walk about in the open in the scrub
behind their trenches (the Turk's trenches that is)
& up & down a Commn trench quite enfiladed
by them. I asked Cooper how far away. He
sd - oh abt 8 400 yds!! And Morgan Owen
told me the periscope rifle ws no use - you
couldn't hold it steady. One sniper is making
that branch of the valley unlivable & they
cant find him. Chas. Taylor told me
he wished they only had an Australian
sniper with them - they had one at Suvla
& he was invaluable - Yes "If we
just had him to go amongst our fellows"
he sd.
 

 

 

Enemy's Strength.
Horkez Tepe & Central H.Q.
 

 

 

7th  19th May. }
7th July  }  Times
 

 
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