Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/10/1 - June - September 1915 - Part 13

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shance of surmaving is simply the chance th Iwas may end before they are on a thick rough & tumble scrap. The 6 Gurkhas had onginelly 12 officers & has received t since; it has 4 left (2 of whom arrived) 2 da. aso) Inaditell shurke truches are in corpt ones to get allong. They are sportmen they dont build trenches for men like Anstalians o You are apt to be siysed at wholeway, as you move along them. I found the 104H in fite new liy captned trench.I believe thy found body of Grant, the N.Z. Chaplain whois K yesly - shat thro chest - in a shallow i trench full of dead tarks in interioo o1 circh (, sic note foot Ang 30 Stayed i writing. Beachy Bill opened out tis afteroon probably, after visit of 2 Taubes yest. She pud. 27 shells out the new N.Z. pier + depot - & finished to 4 outside this dugout wh killed ove tomy guardiy 1 prisoners, wounded 2 (one fatally Im apair) & one Turk. It is wonderfly shooting & a 4mshell. Alanson rather impressed me by one phrase yesty. Of course this is a war of cuefficiency, hedd, and you sungly
But of ainy No 44 take have to accept tt for granted & muddle thro as best you canf He meant that the efficient men had long since be used up, & Britain had to ase old men & inifficient men to command Battalias & Bdes - poor old thays they are doing their best; it is really rate pathet They fet killed - anyway - & they cant do walk more. But no 6igadier really ought to be over 45 & no colonel over 40 of as mach. A move such as a of Ang 6/ wh required extreme energy is a foregone faihure to such material. Seepy old John Monash - cauteous if ever aman was - is one of worsd sorted men for sch a nove; but his probable brelliant compared to some others Aug. St. writing all day 9.20 p.m. very beavy firing & bombing on lep. clearly some sort of attack. Firny a little bombin still going on at 11 p.m. Macat 11.40 Job bombs Tne 11t & 12th Light Horse have arrived The 12th calls itself the P.L. W. own - & one of tiis officers assund an officer of the HLHR. to they are absolutely the firest L.H. Bde t has over lef distradia. The squadrows of the 2 regements have been turned over to other LH. Regements belongeng to (same states. When one NS.W. sqn. of t(1h) 160
strong, marched in to reinforce the St. C.HR. they thought it ws a brigade coming in? The whole regimet hadnt totalled 160 a few days before. The 13th Kept they say is kept to act as did cavalry for 2nd Dion. The colonel has gone as colonel to the 8t LH wh ws commanded by a subatern; & the Bdier has remained in Egypt. Dudd W. Smith ws down for a bathe & stayed to dinner. a cable from Mrs Vincent asking abt her brother who aa msig on AugT. In apsil there's no chance. He was in the r EH.& all their messuy are dead. thurs Sept. End I have to go slow with Caryagilis now that is over I have the begining of an attack of the diarrhoca which is sunning thro' the whole camp. We have had very litele enteris - poor Col. Rowell of the L. Herse died of it, I believe, in Alex & butany amount of dysentery. There is a report to night that a transport has been sunk & 1400 lives lost. Someday they are Australians. Lawrenc& Vevenson are over here. Sept S. Friday Kect Murdoch arrived today. He is going to London for the Syd, Stin & Mell. Herold "to manage their cable service from
16 116 The times office. He sayd the transport was the Northland & contained some four Sixth Brigsde. Others say it is the Sankland. One report is to no one was killed - all boots picked up; another says I ship wasnt sunk & maned to pet in. I had to lie up, but took Murdoch upto top of this hil to see (view. Sa Sept4. In bed. Murdoch went upto see gen. Walker + Lons Pine. San Sept b. Hope to take M. out to the left. but wasn't fit. He went out himself. We hear the South and had some ofsixth Bde. MonSept C. Took M. Apto quenns. He had an interview w little Walker yest. Walkes was really Expansine - told him how he had come to believe in & love his men & how he ad not change his command for I world. Theven like little Hooky o too hes a man we owe something to wevenson tells me to Hooky ws his name at school. en lap at medday 62 Bdeprway. and dir who the staf of the ties Sept
were on the Sankland, arrived during night & the 131 Austrla Bde will begin to be relieved today. They have been putting the 5 &6 Bdes gradaally into trenshes & now the 5th is fairly well blooded. Our men are a little cynicabl & jealous of these new Troops because the papers have always said The ast contingut ws I finest tt has left Australia. To youvg come at last, have you?sd one man as e new ons file pastents Lone Pine. The new men dedn’t say anything we reply. It ay have bu meand for a joke budit ws just a little bitter, The new Cot are fine men but I officers dont impress one at all - & some bus have not I remoten idea of sanitation. The same ws 1 case wil hight rse Be ch arrivd day & was split up between the 1stg Grd Bdes, each states regt getting a squad ron from its own state. The Bdier Col. Spivee Brown , ws left in Egyst -I hear he has pt the 6th Bde in plece Col. Lenton who ws drowned or rater died of exposire - atter the Southlond disastyy & Col Watson was to have had it, but I farrangement had by alte. The Southland disastor took place (on Sept.2. It is
118 pretty fully desribed in my cable of tday. Gelllbrand, who is a cool + if anything Cynical critic, tells me my account is decuret + not overdrawn. The new, he says behaved excellently well. I did very well for thenselves out of the availible kit in (time at their disposal"f he added. e ast somig himselfby th he is sarcastic. They some of them saw submeie abl a mile away, it seemed. And guaval gunner to the 4.7 gan on (stern got off two shols at its periscope (wh ws possibly hy it did not fi again. e be cesed firig. The Submarine fired 2 Crpees, of second one went jast under teir stern It wod have se aled them. But to only one bole - 45f by 12 their bulklen stood & so long as it stood they were safe. The donger wo to it night not stand & a very great danger. The ship eventualty got to ada drawing 34f forwd 15 204 aft her list had not ber heavy tho' pronounced. The crews-were paitof them hopelessi stokees + some stewards. The first mate trid to keep them back &fwal had to shoot to enforc his ordersone man thro1 heads &
Ask on Ha sh Fasohi Young as The medicos Articles men. The 01d Dug out. Patts-day csrt-Quinins pronpa man on Poeach macna onstow. Police. He 4 Cattes Canlie Spy, Stories Wed. 116 another tro. leg. They eventeath rushed some o 1boats I think thebie they as capsized & ty overturned another a Bdier (inton in it. Sellibrand tells met overturning of boats wo work of1 crew & heco a careful narrator. Our men had to string some of devits from wh 1. boats had been cut - & fix new falls & tackle to them All this took time. These new raw Auatialian troops behaved in away end have given an examply to many old & hardened regiments. Tumny still very sore. Bazley is the same way The Bt told us at quinns that they krow $350 bombs last night There is atso a short section of trench there which is called the racecourse bec. you get a lot of turkish bonbs in it I dont think they can yet be up to the form o 1 troops they relieved -naturally. Two Light Hone sergto went thro a section of quinas (other day when I new troops were in & found not a single periscope up. Also some oInew lot have no regard whatever for sanitation. Sept S. Ihear they word appoint an officer in Austi ander 23. Id they cdud appt. an officer over 40 thered be something in it.
120 House tells mne that he is not to be made D.MS. (austialia). The Australian good is sending Featherston (who truck me as a very foolish person) to invesligate afairs in Egypt. Sept 9. Thursday. Gen lepp amind two days ago. The 2nd Division - 586 Bded, 7 not yet arrived - have been having a soot of introduction to their work - 5th a pretty sough one on knoll 60- + To they have fone into quinns; 6th at steels - + nowty are going ats hone Pine. Ara English Dron is relieving the New Zealing of whom Monast's Bde is down (largely Rro sickness) to about 700 & te NYM.R to 300 or 300 Col Skeen has one away, ill. The pt Bde began to come out of the Pine last night; Ih rather came down to beach. The 2nd Bn & part of NI were imbarked before 4 arm. & sent to Mudias. I believe an order went thro today to Egyst for $10,0,000 bottle of beer for the Division That is about15 perman) - to be forwarded to mudros from Egypt. for the troops canteen for the month some Indeam troops & deteil were disembarting at C same tie when our men were emmbarfiam + (some of the ovaval officers or
121 British officers on the sier nearly drove i wild by their shouting of orders at the top of their voices. any turk on walkers Ridy could hear him & hear what te sel, & it is just a wonder to they were not shelled - thy were on ang4 & we know from dinry of a captain tuit the Ilond noises on 1 English sier!"cd be heard at night when those Crtit troops were disembarking. our troops last night worked without any noise at all & without I lighting of matches. The Navy very nearly messed I whole decembarcation last lnyht by not having the lighters ready before it was almost down. The 2nd Bde is going off waylt except 7 Bn. The 3r4 Bnshavent gone yet, nor 3id Bde wartilliry. I believe 112 Field ambees are going o the Supply Coys out I'm apaid artillery woud have a chance + probably not Dt. I am going off to Sbros in a day or two & probibly to atten tanto Sept. 10 Inday. Br tleft of weak tea without milk or sugar; a plate of porsidge; a picer of toast - better than all the condevsed milk of the past fewdays. I went out to the left to monash & now
Esue Bde holds old Anstralian line. The new Commn trinity on their left is du into the trunck taken by the N.G.M.R . Soth the 4th Bole, tho' Et may have gobents the trench X Cas Monesh says) didnt keep th truch. Monash had never been a cross there - Irater Kaiagit Dere wonder at his I know no other Brigadies, unless it be Hughes, that would not have been through it. the esue hold the sustation has t he down across the Aghyl Dere Jully (sapy manned by sught in meddle of gully) and up newhall to monast. The London Bde makes a corty in frond of them here - an inverted and it right must end not far in frond of Monash - near the Chailah Dire below the farm. 122 where 38th Bde was a very catraordining poiitn. toe 4ens te 18 44 l the 00 2 Commn trunch Aperwods I went or to find to alases B3. on as way I passed two implacements of the agw French 75 - where on the right of Aug 6/7. The 154 found their wheel tracks sext morning On to road, only two wheel tracks, with the marks of a skid at the bend as if it had be got out very hurriedly. Near by a companion of the 15th Mower me a point where the parks ade a bit of a stand. They saw several, Tarks there + etram he saw one of our men - a little tater e passed the place onmorning and there was our man dead; shot

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chance of surviving is simply the chance
tt / war may end before they are in a
thick rough & tumble scrap. The 6 Gurkhas
had originally 12 officers & has received 8
since; it has 4 left (2 of whom arrived 2 days
ago).

Incidentally / Ghurka trenches are uncomfortable
ones to get along. They are short men &
they dont build trenches for men like
Australians. You are apt to be sniped
at / whole way, as you move along
them.

I found the 10 L.H. in its newly
captured trench. I believe they found /
body of Grant, the N.Z. Chaplain who ws
k. yesty - shot thro' / chest - in a
shallow trench full of dead Turks in /
interior o / circle (see note book)

Aug 30. Stayed in, writing. Beachy Bill
opened out this afteroon probably after
visit of 2 Taubes yesty - She put 27 shells
onto the new N.Z. pier & depot - &
finished w 4 outside this dugout wh
killed one Tommy guarding / prisoners,
wounded 2 (one fatally I'm afraid) & one
Turk. It ws wonderful shooting & a 4 in shell.

Alanson rather impressed me by
one phrase yesty. "Of course this is a war
of inefficiency," he sd, "and you simply

 

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have to accept take tt for granted & muddle thro'
as best you can." He meant that the efficient
men had long since bn used up, & Britain
had to use old men & inefficient men to command
Battalions & Bdes - poor old things they are
doing their best; it is really rather pathethic.
They get killed - anyway - & they cant do
much more. But no brigadier really ought
to be over 45 & no colonel over 40 if as
much. A move such as tt of Aug 6/7
wh required extreme energy is a foregone
failure to such material. Sleepy old
x John Monash - cautious if ever a man
was - is one o / worst sort of men for
such a move; but he's probably brilliant
compared to some others

Aug. 31. Writing all day
9.20 pm. very heavy firing & bombing on
left. Clearly some sort of attack. Firing &
a little bombing still going on at 11 p.m. More at
11.40 sap bombs.

The 11th & 12th Light Horse have arrived
The 12th calls itself the P. of. W. own - & one of
their officers assured an officer of the 1st LHR.
tt they are absolutely the firest L.H. Bde tt
has ever left Australia. The squadrons of
the 2 regiments have been turned over to /
other L.H. Regiments belonging to / same
states. When one N.S.W. sqn. of the 11th, 160

 

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strong, marched in to reinforce the 1st LHR.
they thought it ws a brigade coming in! The
whole regiment hadnt totalled 160 a few days
before. The 13th Regt they say is kept to
new act as divl cavalry for 2nd Divn.
The colonel has gone as colonel to the 8th L.H.
wh ws commanded by a subaltern; & the
Bdier has remained in Egypt.
Duds W. Smith ws down for a
bathe & stayed to dinner.

Had A cable from Mrs Vincent asking abt her
brother who ws "missing" on Aug 7. I'm afraid
there's no chance. He was in the 1st L.H. &
all their missing are dead.

Thurs
Sept. 2nd I have to go slow with laryngitis &
now that is over I have the begining of an
attack of the diarrhoea which is running
thro' the whole camp. We have had very little
enteric - poor Col. Rowell of the L. Horse
died of it, I believe, in Alex - & but any
amount of dysentery.

There is a report tonight that a
transport has been sunk & 1400 lives lost.
Some say they are Australians. Lawrence &
Nevinson are over here.

Sept 3. Friday
Keith Murdoch arrived today. He is
going to London for the Syd "Sun" & Melb.
"Herald" to manage their cable service from

 

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"The Times" office. He says the transport
was the Northland & contained some of our
Sixth Brigade. Others say it is the Southland.
One report is tt no one was killed - all /
boats picked up; another says / ship
wasnt sunk & managed to get in.

I had to lie up, but took Murdoch
up to / top of this hill to see / view.

Sat Sept 4. In bed. Murdoch went up to
see Gen. Walker & Lone Pine.

Sun Sept 5. Hoped to take M. out to the left,
but wasn't fit. He went out himself.
We hear the Southland had some o / Sixth
Bde.

Mon Sept 6. Took M. up to Quinns. He had an
interview w little Walker yesty. Walker
was really expansive - told him how he
had come to believe in & love his men &
how he wd not change his command for
/ world. The men like little "Hooky"
too - he's a man we owe something to.
- Nevinson tells me tt Hooky ws his name
at school.

M left at midday. 6th Bde arriving.

Tues Sept 7. The staff of the 2nd Divn, who

 

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were on the Southland, arrived during /
night & the 1st Austrln Bde will begin to be
relieved today. They have been putting the
5 & 6 Bdes gradually into / trenches & now
the 5th is fairly well blooded. Our men are
a little cynical & jealous of these new troops
because the papers have always said, "The
last troops contingent ws / finest tt has left
Australia." "So you've come at last,
have you?" sd one man as the new
bn stre filed past into Lone Pine. The new
men didn’t say anything in reply. It
may have bn meant for a joke but it
ws just a little bitter. The new lot are
fine men but / officers dont impress one
at all - & some bns have not / remotest
idea of sanitation. The same ws / case
with 4th Light Horse Bde wh arrived / other
day & was split up between the 1st &
3rd Bdes, each states regt getting a
squadron from its own state. The Bdier
Col. Spencer Brown , ws left in Egypt
- I hear he has got the 6th Bde in place of
Col. Linton who ws drowned - or rather
died of exposure - after the Southland
disaster. Col Watson was to have had it,
but / arrangement had bn altered.

The Southland disaster took
place on Sept. 2. It is

 

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pretty fully described in my cable of today.
Gelllbrand, who is a cool & if anything cynical
critic, tells me my account is accurate
& not overdrawn. - The men, he says
behaved "excellently well." -  "& did very
well for thenselves out of the available
kits in / time at their disposal," he added.
He lost something himself by this; & that is why
he is sarcastic.

They some of them saw / submarine -
abt a mile away, it seemed. And / naval
gunner w the 4.7 gun on / stern got off
two shots at its periscope wh ws possibly
why it did not fire again. Then he ceased
firing. The submarine fired 2 torpedoes,
& / second one went just under their
stern. It wd have settled them. But
w only one hole - 40 ft by 12 - their bulkhead
stood & so long as it stood they were
safe. The danger ws tt it might not
stand - a very great danger.

The ship eventually got into Mudros
drawing 34 ft forwd & 20 ft aft
- her list had not bn heavy tho'.
pronounced. The crew were part of
them hopeless - stokers & some stewards.
The first mate tried to keep them back
& finally had to shoot to enforce his
orders - one man thro' / head &

 

Asp. on
Hosp Ship
Fraschi
Young AMC men.
Articles.  The Medicos
& / men.
The O1d Dug out.
Paths - dry earth - Quinns frontage.
The man on / beach
Macmanamy
Onslow.
Police.
The life.
Cables. Canteen
Spy Stories.

 

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another thro' / leg. They eventually
rushed some o / boats - I think the one they
from seized capsized & they overturned another
w Bdier Linton in it. Gellibrand tells
me tt / overturning of boats ws /
work of / crew - & he is a careful
narrator. Our men had to string some
o / davitts from wh / boats had been
cut - & fix new falls & tackle to them
All this took time. These new raw
Australian troops behaved in a way tt
wd have given an example to many
old & hardened regiments.

Tummy still very sore. Bazley
is the same way.
The 18th 17th told us at Quinns that
they threw 8 350 bombs last night! There is
also a short section of trench there which is
called the "racecourse" bec. you get a lot of
Turkish bombs in it. I dont think they can
yet be up to the form o / troops they relieved
- naturally. Two Light Horse sergts went
thro' a section of Quinns / other day when /
new troops were in & found not a single
periscope up. Also some o / new lot have
no regard whatever for sanitation.

Wed. Sept 8. I hear they wont appoint
an officer in Austr. under 23. If 
they wdn't appt. an officer over 40
there'd be something in it.

 

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Howse tells me that he is not to be
made D.MS. (Australia). The Australian
Govt is sending Featherstone (who struck
me as a very foolish person) to investigate
affairs in Egypt.

Sept 9. Thursday.  Gen Legge arrived
two days ago. The 2nd Division - 5 & 6 Bdes, 7 not
yet arrived - have been having a sort of introduction
to their work - 5th a pretty rough one on Knoll
60 - & so they have gone into Quinns; 6th at
Steeles - & now they are going into Lone Pine.
An English Divn. is relieving the New Zealanders
of whom Monash's Bde is down (largely thro'
sickness) to about 700 & the NZM.R to
350 or 300!

Col Skeen has gone away ill.

The 1st Bde began to come out of the
Pine last night; or rather came down to /
beach. The 2nd Bn & part of 1st were embarked
before 4 am. & sent to Mudros. I believe
an order went thro today to Egypt
for 100,000 bottles of beer for the Division
- that is about 15 per man - to be
forwarded to Mudros from Egypt - 
for the troops canteen for the month.

Some Indian troops & details
were disembarking at / same time
when our men were embarking
& some of the Naval officers or

 

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British officers on the pier nearly drove me
wild by their shouting of orders at the
top of their voices. Any Turk on Walkers
Ridge could hear them & hear what they
sd, & it is just a wonder tt they were
not shelled - they were on Aug 4 & we
know from / diary of a captured Turk
tt / "loud noises on / English pier" cd
be heard at night when those British
troops were disembarking. Our troops
last night worked without any noise
at all & without / lighting of matches.
The Navy very nearly messed / whole
disembarcation last night by not
having the lighters ready before it was
almost dawn.

The 2nd Bde is going off tonight
except 7 Bn. The 3 & 4 Bns havent gone
yet, nor 3rd Bde, or artillery. I believe
1 & 2 Field Ambces are going & the
Supply Coys - but I'm afraid artillery
wont have a chance & probably
not D.H.Q. I am going off to Imbros
in a day or two & probably to Athens.

Sept. 10 Friday.  went xx to left Breakfast - a cup of weak
tea without milk or sugar; a plate of porridge;
a piece of toast - better than all the
condensed milk of the past few days.
I went out to the left to Monash - now

 

Essex Bde holds old Australian
line. The new Commn trench on their
left is dug into the trench taken by
the N.Z.M.R. - so tt the 4th Bde, tho' it
may have got into the trench
x (as Monash
says) didnt
keep tt trench.

Diagram - see original document

Monash had
never been across
there - I rather
wonder at this. I
know no other Brigadier,
unless it be Hughes, that would not have
been through it.
The Essex hold the Australian line & then down
across the Aghyl Dere Gully (sap manned by
eight in middle of gully) and up next hill to
Monash. The London Bde makes a sort of
∧ in front of them here - an inverted V -
and its right must end not far in front
of Monash - near the Chailak Dere below
the farm.

 

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where 38th Bde was - a very extraordinary positn.

Diagram - see original document
Afterwds I went on to find to 4 Essex Bde.
On the way I passed two emplacements of the
French 75s - where maybe they were on the right of Aug 6/7.
The 15th found their wheel tracks next morning
on to road, only two wheel tracks, with
the marks of a skid at the bend as if they it
had bn got out very hurriedly.

Near by a companion of the 15th showed
me a point where the Turks made a bit of a
stand. They saw several Turks there &
he saw one of our men ^abt 4 am - a little later
he passed the place - in / morning - 
and there was our man dead; shot

 
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