Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/10/1 - June - September 1915 - Part 12

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103 There ws a heavy bombardment at Hele at 5.30 pm yest & doothe today? I wolked ap. I aid tot have a took buttcont make out a sungle shell burst; - So it looks as if t ws attacking as. They say he has withdrawn somef as guns from there. I wonder if we are leaving Helles. If not, how will thy inauage during winter. Hear the Balkan Leayue may come in on our side. I'll believe it when I acticd see it. that genk for abtot first tim kit not play (game (in this Cast [Derap. That is to Tay be shot sme of our men who were obvioualy wounded & were rolling down to try o fet out of way I dont thank we can complain abt N.C.s being fire on because stretchin of a sort not walike medical stretches are regulasl used to carry food. But shooting wounded is over the adds. AtI same time are all know it, if men sham wounded it may be justifiable. Our men certainly were not chamnung wounded but turks have done so on various occasions & we have shot all bodies within sight on order to make sure. The Tarks were steadll shooting every body within sight putter anml. on to than if they contiaued to
104 move. Heavy firing at Helles toniget - Wonder if we are withdrawing there - almost sounds like it. Poor slaps - it adbear awful operate to cury out of what a dieary terrible waste of life to whole wd have been. campays Aug 26 Marsday It is impossible to beat for crass slothful stapidity the British officer of a certain tyse. For example. Three days ago the having started a system of loaving bombs out males to they take tot lines, they naturally got some of them kicking. The Indiams lose thei heads as soon as this happens. & on this occasion the mules started kickin on the edge of the gally near. on bomb factory. One of bombs mules w exploded by 11 disturbance & in three by explocions to immediately followed maes I man were killig t men injuret. The bomb factory & its stoves fortunately escaped. whatedis British officer de. what would he do? except wait
105 until it happened again. There is an officer in charge abt factor . The males are still used for arriap of bombs & are still looded by men who kick them in 1 stomack. tonight a nother make being loaded t bombs started carcering round. kickey, & finally fell over -I& I dont suppost the frize diot responsible will ever hear of it. upon my word tere Britisk make you marvel. I don't wonder they desn't get in $500 yds on the day of their landiy when they were supposed to get in 5 wiks. A British regiment lost 2 majors men t killed & 120 wo io by supers in trenches turned over to them by our men of 14tn who can dig - in 1 course of one day when our bus next door lost abt 1500 20 at 1 outside, some of teir men were found by Arthur Maxwel to have filled their waterbottles w salt water. They were pattetically gratiful for a drink of water just like children & tey wd implicitly obey any of our merry to spoke to them with decision - & generally call them
2 19 Sir Spm Gome Sparts of firing on the left in the hills. I can tell it beg the box like knocking of the reports. 9.25 denonstration, clearly, at Walkers Nek. Light crack of Mausers most peculiarly distinct. sood deald mneany firing. great dismision w fellibrand (other day on advisability of officers taking cover - Theres a st deal to be sdfor (old Bulish ideal & agst new Jernan one. Officers may be saved, I battles bost, thro' officers sunmig for shettgo their men having no confidence in them. G. & glasped were passing a group of men 1other day. A75 ws theoway shells abl 20 a meaute down the falle. It took abt 1 menate to cross & inth minute you were right an track o1 shell. The are were certain all wondering what these two brass hats we do - &f brass hats had to put it to themselves: shall bel go roand - wh we cando; or shall de jo straught. They went straight. The 75 jast got them fair in gulley centre & whigze so close t Gally felt he wanted to stand sideways. But every man in (th gron wdrase in his heart a respect for the Step. he
107 have on cynieel if they had gone round. Bnt tt noral work a lot? Raining tonight. I think our hardships. really will begin w winter. ThoI must say to, by (way in wh Icommies who coure here from elsewhere sompare the previous got as enviable, I am not sure. I we havent n greater heroeswe were inchue to think ourselved. I suppose you cant bemstly claim to be a hero, if you Lave ba unconscion of your herorsm& your wardship didng seem to you so outr agrously hard as it did t oters Fnday Aug 27. Abt a whap ASg. 5LHR under Midgley went out abt 3.30am when moonset & worket across to Bird Trenches opp. Chatham's Post. B5q. under, Johnson went along Coast line; Cin Ys. Thay got within abl 10yds of truckes when a tank fires 6 shots. They by lowe - crept another faw yards - senty fined again. Distrozes had find from Midnight to 3 at intervals, & bombarder for 5 minates at to wh ws Midgeloy's signal- Abt 4.15 midply hurled in abt 38 bouts (he had 120 men) & cleased out truch. got into truch; & as reserves came up we shol them. ovr men returned before daylight only hadat 2 men wounded (2 in our own
gas 108 trenches) Wilson is in command of S.C.HR now We expedn showed to Turl truchs are firmly held along gun Ridge, Tarks must here lost 30 or s0. They have made somesort of attack ages Beach Pospresently 4 P.M. tis afternoon a bonfardmant started. of the country to of Susak Knyn & I shd say of the truckes on the knoll 60, spur. The bombarding was pretty hot. A 5 pm heavy rifle fire + Turkish Shrapnel all just outride the ref of our line- from the tarks. evidently our attack viy forward I had meant to get up for a bit this afternoon - so I went to the top of Maclagan's Redge. You dnt seo anything except very warae shoapuel fire - the to using their guns in 2 gan sections; the vally beyond our left was full of the dust & sudke + I think 1 Attack must have got some way the 1fire ws very feice? It eased at times but kept up pretty well till 7 (dark or almost so) and cven now - nearly 10 -it is continual bombing & rife fire. our 19 Bn ws just there & I hear to wounded from 182, 1913n & connaught Rangers are coming to beach? I hope the 19th know something of Bombo.
B4 109 Dal Ford. Ang 28. bent out to see what had happened - it ws another attack b N.3. on knoll 60 with 18 Bn do, 3rd tine. Monashes shaps were on their right but for some reason not move tan 2 shells in tt whole boobardment were sent at I trenches opposite Monash, The BBrysdier, Gen. Russell, to to me to this we so although he prayed them to turn out I trenches farter, N wh An Bdead to attack. As it were of course ready Iinstant the 45 move- & the 4th w (very cubags (see. small ntbook for details Some of the N.3 people - not. all o then made ae very anyry by the way in wh they seld: Io apait (pullen a long face) Ia afrair the Auatralians ditht show up wellatal 1t I snapped back something which shatous gentleman up pretty quickly. Capt. Blair, Gen. Russell Maj. Grigor – h sort of fellow are different altogether & not sich sith pote. went round knoll, 60 trentheg & make a Wap und Ang 2 o day went a round the trenches captured by 6 10th L.H lastnitt. indeed this is the frt, day I've got tho my programine in full. Went first to Timperly], N.G. Caf. Bde, Bde major), who gave mea fallak of what N.Z. had done I had no ides that anything there
82 110 had be done like to fighting by wellington Bn. which took Churnk Wof Glosters (ood work for nw troops like 1 gloaters) and lost 700 out of 750 men in holding it.Then went out past the last foothil outs I plain. Inot going out from the foot hills meer Sin Coxs H.Q. (6k Section) I whom shd I meet but old Iacman any, 2ndc of the 19th wh had bu connicty up to Britich. I was really sorry to see him a major bec a major has sach a poor chance of coming back whole froma show like this. After that I wenton twoo comig trenches round to Sisck Kuyi where the 5th Ghurkas are o saw Alanson, Maj. Alanson- who commands them I who as this day recommended for the V.C. for his work in getting to the sumnit of the range & holding on there. He may not get it thro the technical objectu that there is no one to bear but his swn no one saw him there(s all the other white officers, were k. or to badle w. to be asked for evidence. However, the Dr. saw him 10 ond & saw fim com back. Oary mee have a treuendous admiration for the little Gurkha+t dont mn getting up agst they say they
New Zealanders or Thurkas - but they (and the R.Z. men too) do not trust the Tombe they all except the regular army, but they have not the slightest confidence in Ks aroy - not have our officers. - nor have I. The trut, to that after 10 years of breeding in sturns the Britich race is not same, & can't be expected to be II same, as in (days of waterloo It is biuding one fine class att expensed all rest. The only hope for is is that these puny narrow chested little men may, if they came out to Auatr or N.G. or Cnada, within 2 generations breed men again. England herself anless she does-somethen heroic, cannot hope to. Hlanson hos telling me to after a fortnight in 1 truekes men cant be got to leave them its I same a them all? I sd I had seen our men 16 weeks in treches without one days spell leave those truches& had never noticed slightest trace of hesitation not on any occasion. I have heart hesitation once in I case of a bn largely consisting of young remporcement ch had to go out of dark tunnels wo a machine gan successing 1 month of ten o dear & wounde tumbli back & blocking the exit. The 6th Bnd
112 did besitate in going for ferman officers trinct on the night of Auy 8/7 - altho 150 went out.& none, [ot, thro Alanson Id. The Australians (&I expect he included N.2 in they) are the best boops here - I think were all agreed abt tt hesdto doctor and doctor nodded. Alanson, told me to his mer ad go from I treched all right if they had all their officers - but they lost them, at every charge nds Biitish off in a native regt. isn't wounded - hes killed. In their last charge across (the wretched piece of plain wh we actually walked across for 2 days after ting6, & robbed bechies at neighbouring farm - Monash trid & persuade (1 Boit. bog next to him to occupy (it them) - they lost 4 officers killed out of 6 in the first 80 9ds. If 1 British officer an gove the men wont. The officers are of course sueped by a Turk who can hit between shoulders - & thy mostly die ontright. I is no joke being a British office of a Glerkla reg when I saw pleasant youmpters (12 of the 4 the Bn now has who have by drafted in since with their wideawake bats + short paits goig thro their lines I cdad help thinkn of them almost as of men who have devoted thensl to death. bec that what if is. Their

103
There ws a heavy bombardment at Helles
at 5.30 pm yesty & another today. I
walked up / hill to have a took but cdnt
make out a single shell burst - so
it looks as if T. ws attacking us. They say
he has withdrawn some of his guns from
there. I wonder if we are leaving Helles.
If not, how will they manage during /
winter.
Hear the Balkan League may come
in on our side. I'll believe it when I
actually see it.
The Turk for abt / first time did not
play / game in this last scrap. That is
to Say he shot some of our men who were
obviously wounded & were rolling down
to try & get out o / way. I dont
think we can complain abt s.b.s being
fired on because stretchers of a sort not
unlike medical stretchers are regularly
used to carry food. But shooting wounded
is over the odds. At / same time we
all know tt, if men sham wounded it
may be justifiable. Our men certainly
were not shamming wounded, but
Turks have done so on various occasions
& we have shot all bodies within sight in
order to make sure. The Turks were steadily
shooting every body within sight - putting
a m.g. onto than if they continued to
 

 

 

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move.
Heavy firing at Helles tonight - Wonder
if we are withdrawing there - almost
sounds like it. Poor chaps - it wd be an
awful operatn to carry out - & what a
dreary terrible waste of life tt whole
campaign wd have been.

Aug. 26. Thursday.
It is impossible to beat for crass
slothful stupidity the British officer of a certain
type. For example: Three days ago, they
having started a system of loading bombs onto
mules to they take to / lines, they naturally
got some of them kicking. The Indians lose
their heads as soon as this happens -
& on this occasion the mules started
kicking on the edge of the gully near /
bomb factory. One o / bombs on / mules was
exploded by / disturbance & in three
big explosions tt immediately followed
3 mules & 3 men were killed & 6 men
injured. The bomb factory & its stores
fortunately escaped.
What did / British officer do -
what would he do? except wait
 

 

 

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until it happened again. There is an officer
in charge abt bomb factory - The mules
seem are still used for / carriage of
bombs & are still loaded by men who kick
them in / stomach. tonight another
mule being loaded w bombs started
careering round, kicking, & finally fell
over - & I dont suppose the prize
idiot responsible will ever hear of it.
Upon my word these British make
you marvel. I don't wonder they didn't
get in 500 yds on the day of their landing
when they were supposed to get in 5
miles. A British regiment lost 2 majors
killed & 120 wounded men k & w by snipers in trenches
turned over to them by our men o / 14Bn who
can dig - in / course of one day when
our bns next door lost abt 15 or 20 at /
outside. Some of their men were found by
Arthur Maxwell to have filled their
water bottles w salt water. They were
pathetically grateful for a drink of water
- just like children & they wd implicitly
obey any of our men tt spoke to them
with decision - & generally call them
 

 

 

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Sir
——
8.p.m - 9p.m. Spurts of firing on the left in the hills -
I can tell it by the box like knocking of the reports.
9.25 demonstration, clearly, at Walkers Nek. Light
crack of Mausers most peculiarly distinct.
——
Good deal of uneasy firing.
Great discussion w Gellibrand (other day on /
advisability of officers taking cover - There's a
gt deal to be sd for / old British ideal & agst
/ new German one. Officers may be saved, &
battles lost, thro' officers running for shelter & their
men having no confidence in them. G. & Glasfurd
were passing a group of men / other day.
A 75 ws throwing shells abt 2ce a minute
down the gully. It took abt 1 minute to
cross & in ½ minute you were right
in / track o / shell. The are were certainly
all wondering what these two brass hats wd
do - & / brass hats had to put it to
themselves: shall we go round - wh we
can do; or shall we go straight. They
went straight. The 75 just got them fair
in / gulley centre & whizzed so close tt
Gelly felt he wanted to stand sideways.
But every man in tt group wd have in
his heart a respect for the Staff - he wd
 

 

 

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have bn cynical if they had gone round,
Isn't tt moral worth a lot?
——
Raining tonight. I think our hardships.
really will begin w / winter. Tho' I must
say tt, by / way in wh / Tommies who came
here from elsewhere compare the previous
lot as enviable, I am not sure tt we havent
bn greater heroes than we were inclined to
think ourselves, I suppose you cant honestly
claim to be a hero if you have bn unconscious
of your heroism - & your hardship didnt
seem to you so outrageously hard as it did
to others.

Friday Aug 27. Abt a wk ago A Sq. 5 LHR under
Midgley went out abt 3.30am when moon set,
& worked across to Bird Trenches opp. Chatham's
Post. B 5q. under Johnson went along Coast line;
Cin Yx. They got within abt 10yds of trenches when
a Turk fires 6 shots. They lay low - crept another
few yards - sentry fired again. l Destroyer had
fired from Midnight to 3 at intervals, &
bombarded for 5 minutes at ¼ to 4 wh
ws Midgeley's signal - abt 4.15 Midgely
hurled in abt 38 bombs (he had 120 men) &
cleaned out trench. Got into trench; & as
reserves came up we shot them. Our
men returned before daylight & xxxx only
had abt 2 men wounded (2 in our own
 

 

 

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trenches). ^Maj. Wilson is in command of 5LHR now
The expedn showed tt Turk trenches are very
firmly held along Gun Ridge, Turks must have lost
30 or so. They have made some sort of attack
agst Beach Post recently-
——
4 p.m. this afternoon a bombardmant started.
of the country E of Susak Kuyu & I shd say of
the trenches on the knoll 60 spur. The bombardment
was pretty hot.
A 5 pm heavy rifle fire & Turkish Shrapnel
all just outside the left of our line - from the Turks.
evidently our attack going forward. I had meant
to get up for a bit this afternoon - so I went
to the top of Maclagan's Ridge. You cdnt see
anything except very warm shrapnel fire - the
Ts using their guns in 2 gun sections; the valley
beyond our left was full of the dust & smoke
& I think / attack must have got some way
tho / fire ws very fierce.
It eased at times but kept up pretty
well till 7 (dark or almost so) and even
now - nearly 10 - it is continual bombing
& rifle fire.
Our 19 Bn ws just there & I hear tt
wounded from 18Bn, 19 Bn & Connaught
Rangers are coming to / beach. I hope the
19th know something of Bombs.
 

 

 

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Frid Sat. Aug 28. Went out to see what had
happened - it ws another attack by N.Z. on
knoll 60 with 18 Bn as 3rd line. Monashes
chaps were on their right but for some
reason not more than 2 shells in tt whole
bombardment were sent at l trenches opposite
Monash. The N.Z. Brigadier, Gen. Russell, told
me tt this ws so although he prayed them
to turn onto / trenches further, N wh
4 Austrln Bde had to attack. As it
ws these trenches were not bombarded &
were of course ready / instant the 4th
moved - & the 4th ws very cut up (see.
small notebook for details)
Some of the N.Z. people - not. all of them
- made me very angry by the way in wh
they said: I'm afraid (pulling a long face)
I'm afraid the Australians didnt show up
well at all!" I snapped back something which
shut one gentleman up pretty quickly. Capt.
Blair, Gen. Russell Maj. Grigor – these sort of fellows
are different altogether & not such silly fools.
Went round knoll 60 trenches & made a trap
Sund. Aug 29 To day went xxx round
the trenches captured by 10th L.H last night -
indeed this is the first day I've got thro my
programme in full. Went first to.
Temperly, N.Z. Inf. Bde, (Bde major), who gave
me a full a/c of what N.Z. had done
there. Then I had no idea that anything
 

 

 

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had bn done like the fighting by Wellington
Bn. which took Chunuk w /  Glosters (good work
for raw troops like / Glosters) and xxxxx lost
700 out of 750 men in holding it. Then
went out past the last foothill to Chunuk
on to / plain. Just going out from the
foot hills near Gen Coxs H.Q. (6th Section) I
not to whom shd I meet but old Macmanamy,
2nd i.c. of the 19th wh had bn connectg
up w / British. I was really sorry to
see him a major bec. a major has such
a xxxx xxx poor chance of coming back
whole from a show like this.
After that I saw went on thro
commn trenches round to Susak Kuyu
where the 6th Ghurkas are & saw Alanson,
- Maj. Alanson - who commands them &
who ws this day recommended for the V.C.
for his work in getting to the summit
of the range & holding on there. He may
not get it an thro the technical objectn
that there is no one to bear out his story
- no one saw him there; all the other white
officers were k. or too badly w. to be asked
for evidence. However, the Dr. saw him go
out & saw him come back.
Our men have a tremendous
admiration for the little Gurkha - but
they say they dont mind getting up agst
 

 

 

111
New Zealanders or Ghurkas - but they
(and the N.Z. men too) do not trust the Tommy
- they all except the regular army but they
have not the slightest confidence in K's
army - nor have our officers. - nor have I.
The truth is that after 100 years of breeding in
slums the British race is not / same, & can't
be expected to be / same, as in / days of
Waterloo. It is breeding one fine class at /
expense all / rest. The only hope for it
is that these puny narrow chested little
men may, if they came out to Austr or
N.Z. or Canada, within 2 generations
breed men again. England herself,
unless she does something heroic,
cannot hope to.
Alanson ws telling me tt after a
fortnight in / trenches men "cant be got to
leave them - its / same w them all."
I sd I had seen our men 16 weeks
in / trenches without one days spell
leave those trenches & had never noticed
/ slightest alar trace of hesitation -
not on any occasion. (I have heard of
hesitation once in / case of a bn
largely consisting of young reinforcements
wh had to go out of dark tunnels w
a machine gun sweeping / mouth of
them & / dead & wounded tumbling
back & blocking the exit. The 6th Bn d
 

 

 

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did hesitate in going for German Officers trench
on the night of Aug 6/7 - altho 150 went out &
none got, thro.)
Alanson sd: th The Australians (& I
expect he included N.Z. in that) are the best
troops here - I think we're all agreed abt
tt" he sd to / doctor and / doctor nodded.
Alanson, told me tt his men wd go
from / trenches all right if they had all their
officers - but they lost them, at every charge.
And a Biitish offr. in a native regt.
isn't wounded - he's killed. In their last
charge across the wretched piece of plain
wh we actually walked across for 2 days
after Aug 6, & robbed beehives at / neighbouring
farm - Monash tried to persuade / Brit.
bns next to him to occupy it then) - they
lost 4 officers killed out of 6 in the first
80 yds. If / British officers ^are gone the
men wont move follows. The officers are of course
sniped by a Turk who can hit between /
shoulder bla shoulders - & they mostly
die outright. It is no joke being a British
officer of a Gurkha regt. When I saw /
pleasant youngsters (2 of the 4 the Bn now
has,) who have bn drafted in since, I ch
with their wide awake hats & short pants
going thro their lines I cdnt help thinking of them
almost as of men who have devoted themselves
to death - bec. thats what it is. Their
 

 

 

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