Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/43/1 - April - May 1916 - Part 3

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First World War, 1914–18
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20 behind them - cut across his face. We saw the torm sand bag in rack case. Ther bertson tell we the Boches have armour pieriin bullets - he showed me one; a little steel then, much smaller han a nickel covered bullet- MIMIMIMIIII about this sigl. Of course it is weighted differently 5 & docont tip t on striking - it goes straight through like the old South Apican Cullet. It soes through Lordinary stell plate Cophole, I believe, + through a fair breastwork of sandbags. I have never seen a case where it reall sot through a breastwork Went out t see Capt Skelsey about the Avizac
Pains 21 Book today. He was up at Quinns quite at beginning on I first Thesday when Kankin bos in command. He ws called in to "put up were (on es or Wed.) He found the trenches only a line of discounecles rifle pits some way behindI Creat with the men standiry to arins on them all wight with bayoneto fixed, staring anxioust at crest abt 10 or 14 yds away. He crawled forward & there were Tarks diggn opposite - on 1 other side c crest. He sd. I can't put wire out there for you - I could not pmen ap fast enough, but well throw some
22 slow work sappin 111 not trenching M 23 out & t will give you a little warning. This ws done. He then cat several saps out towards crest, & opend up t heads when he got pasto crest, & connected the Pheads. The Theads then became the new fire trench; &the old rifle pets, connected up ain places roofed over so as to be lomb proof. became the second line. This was there before end of way $6 endo 1 first cok when he ws constantly going down to monast about this work at Ruinas (liks every one who
24 Dend Mans Risp worked under 25 tmonash he has highest opinion of him o Hewsakeen to go forward there, he sd. Abt the 5th of 612 day we still didnt know whether that ridge I turks used to snipe fom was ours or theirs. Monash asked me + I se I thought our men were there. He asked we to be sure - so 7 I took a bearing on it then went across to I ridge our men were holding on other sice of valley, found it as a Turkish posit atter all (Dead mano They wolld Ridge - be weant. to shipe from there a lot o Monash became very keen to take it. on the Friday they intended to attack 1 wrks er there - Monash called
26 May 2, 1915 27 my down & told me. Three ont are to go out over popes & one over Courtneys They will have to be fer as they go forward. I -took at them & want tyou to prepare see how you can prepare roads to take 1 males up them looked & returned & toto him t it ad easily be done at Popes but ourtneys ws so steep it a week. He sd t I had belter leave Courtinys alone as only one for. Ws going out there, & concentuite all my attention on Popes I did so. The attack I postponed Fill Sunday
& Teryt Wallace, a N. Zealm Rhodes Scholar who ws killed talking to may. Omin at Guenns word 29 & I ws told t after battalions had gone up I us to be ready & in touch to sentriey on 1 road. word ws to come to tem as soon as 1.Bos. had got far enough for me to continue I road - & the sentries were to pass road on to me. I sent - but as word never up came I went & tarned in At 2 am. - the marines had just come up - I ws up again to see what as Ireason for 1 delay & tone of the detachment had sent to sether the 1312 or 15th Bn (there were 10 engrs with Each) came back. There are only 3 of us left he sdl & we have orders to Come back.
30 At I same moment a man from other engr detachment chme back & Id. they had only 2 lett - 5 oub of the 20 we had sent io them of we who remained behind were only to botn att I road) I went up I vallen the bloody Angle. I never understood why 1 troops had gone up the instead of at Pope's & Courtinys where I had always understood they were togo. The valley as simply a mass of men packed with them. I supposed they went t way because the Otagos didn't get up in time on their lett. That as secret of whose fachurs but Im sare Col Moore ws not. to blame. He's not (sort of man to make a miscalcul ation like that.
Intills trenches 32 Col. Monash always asi to be consulting me abl these works at 1 beado valle abl time when Maj. Guhi had taken over; We got to in these conversations refer to it as quinn's Post as I as always in touch to Bept. quinn up there - & t suppose, is how it got te name. Skelsey ws bit abt end of may, before N.Z went in to quinns. He came back tater & as w Austalian 4th Bde again on Augo/t. From there he went to the Apex with antills Bde. Antill, he advists, had splendis trenches; but he worke his men to death. We had a party on till 5 a.m. (I think Lot this wst howr he s me) &ten
33 most of Girls, French or Flemish, know a bit of English now. 34 they were sut on again at I am. I lott tatil be coul expect men to work under conditus like that? The men there did far far more work than the do here. Ao begin with, the restry division is doing practicall no manual work at all here; billeted vill. in towns, driling & marden a bit, mashing 1 girls, I even resting. Theew Zealanders whom I saw today, onl Bde of them, at Mostecque, were testin be the roadside; yorny to girls walking on to r out of town ; even mast of the wen in the divisions in the live are not working as in Gallepoti. suppose it cdat be bep
35 up foom year to year, that pressure. N.Z. Dion i5 now about estaires ; exc. S5 Bde, Mosbecgu The Rife Bde wh passed yest t certainly a five one; the Earl of Liverpools own. looked in on deardo M Tohuson of 2nd Din arty yesty. He wont be I quiet for long. May 3rd. We aregetting all sorts of illumen ation on departments of war we scarcel dreamed of For example - all telephone wires here have t be ran on a metatic circut; because both 1 germans (& I believe we have instrunets by wh we can tap any conversation os telegrams along a

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behind them - cut across his
face.  We saw the torn sand bags
in each case.  Herbertson tells
us the Boches have armour piercing
bullets - he showed me one;  a
little steel thing, much smaller
than a nickel covered bullet -
[Hand drawn sketch - please see original] about this size.  Of
course it is weighted differently
& doesnt tip [Hand drawn sketch - please see original] on
striking - it goes straight through
like the old South African bullet.
It goes through 1 ordinary steel
plate loophole, I believe, &
through a fair breastwork
of sandbags.  I have never
seen a case where it really
got through a breastwork.
Went out to see
Capt Skelsey about the Anzac

 


Quinns.

 

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Book today.  He was up at
Quinns quite at / beginning -
on / first Tuesday when Rankin
ws in command.  He ws called
in to "put up wire" (on
Tues? or Wed.)  He found the
trenches only a line of disconnected
rifle pits some way behind /
crest with the men standing to
arms in them all night with
bayonets fixed, staring anxiously
at / crest abt 10 or 14 yds
away.  He crawled forward &
there were / Turks digging
opposite - on / other side o /
crest.  He sd: "I can't put
wire out there for you - I
couldnt put men up fast
enough;  but we'll throw some

 

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Slow work "Sapping"

[Hand drawn sketch - please see original]

not "trenching"
[Hand drawn sketch - please see original]
 

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out & tt will give you a
little warning."
This ws done.  He then 
cut several saps out towards
/ crest, & opened up T-heads
when he got past / crest,
& connected the T heads.  The
T heads then became the
new fire trench;  & the
old rifle pits, connected up
& in places roofed over so
as to be bomb proof,
became the second line.  This
was there before / end of
May.
Abt / end o / first
wk when he ws constantly
going down to Monash
about this defen. work at
Quinns (like every one who

 

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Dead Mans Ridge
 

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knew worked under Monash he has /
highest opinion of him -
"He ws x keen to go forward there," he
sd." Abt the 5th or 6th Day we
still didnt know whether that
ridge / Turks used to snipe
from was ours or theirs.
Monash asked me & I sd
I thought our men were there.
He asked me to be sure - so
I took a bearing on it, &
then went across to / ridge
our men were holding on
/ other side o / valley, &
found it ws a Turkish
positn after all" (Dead Mans
Ridge - he meant).  "They used
to snipe from there a lot &
Monash became very keen
to take it.
"On the Friday they
intended to attack / Turks
over there - Monash called

 

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May 2 1915
 

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me down & told me: ‘Three
bns. are to go out over
popes & one over Courtneys.
They will have to be fed
as they go forward. I
want you to prepare look at them &
see how you can prepare
roads to take / mules
up them.’
"I looked & returned &
told him tt it cd easily be
done at Popes but
Courtneys ws so steep it
wd take a week.
"He sd tt I had better
leave Courtneys alone as
only one bn. ws going
out there, & concentrate
all my attentn on
Popes.
"I did so.  The attack
ws postponed till Sunday

 

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X Sergt Wallace, a N.Zealand
Rhodes Scholar who ws
killed talking to Maj. Quinn
at Quinns.
 

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& I ws told tt after /
battalions had gone up I
ws to be ready & in touch
w / sentries on / road.
Word ws to come to them
as soon as / Bns. had
got far enough for me to
continue / road - & the
sentries were to pass /
[*?word*] road on to me.  I sent
up - but as word never
came I went & turned in.
At 2 a.m.. - the marines
had just come up - I
ws up again to see what
ws / reason for / delay,
& one X of the ^Engr detachment I
had sent w either the 13th
or 16th Bn (there were 10
Engrs with Each) came
back. 'There are only
3 of us left' he sd & we
have orders to come back.’

 

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At / same moment a man
from / other Engr detachment
came back & sd they had
only 2 left - 5 out of the
20 we had sent w them (we
who remained behind were
only to bother abt / road ).
"I went up / valley
- the bloody Angle.  I never
understood why / troops
had gone up there instead
of at Pope's & Courtney's where
I had always understood
they were to go.  The valley
ws simply a mass of men
- packed with them.  I
supposed they went tt way
because the Otagos didnt get
up in time on their left.  That
ws / secret o / whole failure
but I'm sure Col. Moore ws not
to blame.  He's not / sort of
man to make a miscalculation 
like that."

 

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Antills trenches
 

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"Col Monash always used
to be consulting me abt these
works at / head o / valley
abt / time when Maj. Quinn
had taken over;  We got to
refer to it  ^in these conversations as Quinn's Post,
as I ws always in touch w
Capt. Quinn up there - & tt,
I suppose, is how it got
its name."
Skelsey ws hit abt /
End of May, before N.Z.
went in to Quinns.  He
came back later & ws w /
Australian 4th Bde again
on Aug 6/7th.  From there he
went to the Apex with
Antill's Bde.  Antill, he
admits, had splendid
trenches;  but he worked his
men to death.  "We had a
party on till 5 a.m." (I think
this was / hour he said told me)" & then

 

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most o / girls, French or
Flemish, know a bit of
English now.

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they were put on again at
8 a.m.  I told Antill he cdnt
expect men to work under
conditns like that!"
The men there did far
far more work than they
do here.  To begin with, the
resting division is doing
practically no manual
work at all here;  billeted
in towns, ^& villages drilling & marching
a bit, mashing / girls, &
even resting.  The New
Zealanders whom I saw
today, one Bde of them, at
Morbecque, were resting by
the roadside;  yarning to
girls X ;  walking into & out
of town;  even most of
the men in the divisions
in the line are not
working as in Gallipoli.  I
suppose it cdnt be kept

 

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up from year to year, that
pressure.
I believe N.Z. Divn is now about
XXXXXXX Estaires ;  exc. 1st Bde, Morbecque.
The Rifle Bde wh passed yesty
is certainly a fine one;  "the
Earl of Liverpools own."
Looked in on dear old
Jn Johnson of 2nd Divn
Arty yesty.  He wont
be quiet for long.
 

May 3rd.  we are getting all
sorts of illumination on
departments of war we scarcely
dreamed of:

For example - all telephone
wires here have to be run on
a metallic circuit;  because
both / Germans (& I believe we)
have instruments by wh we
can tap any conversation
or telegrams along a

 

 

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