Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/38C/1 - Notebook - Part 3










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Second Force :
4th Austrln Inf. Brigade
Corps. | State | Offrs. | Men. | Total. | |
13th Battn. | N.S.W. | 32. | 991 | 1023 | Lt.Col. G.J. Burnage V.D. Capt. W.W. Ellis |
14th Bn. | Vic. | 32. | 991 | 1023 | Lt.Col. Courtney V.D. Major J. Adams |
15th Bn | Q & (1/4) Tas | 32. | 991 | 1023 | Lt.Col.. J. H. Cannan. Major H. R. Carter |
18th Bn. | W.A.(3/8) S.A. | 32 | 991 | 1023 | Lt. Col. H. Pope. Major L.E. Tilney V.D. |
Hdqrs. | Vic . | 4 | 21 | 25 |
Col. J. Monash.V.D. (Hon Lt.Col. Major McGlinn J.P V.D. Capt C. H. Jess |
2nd Signal Coy (1 Sectn.) |
Vic . | 1 | 24 | 25 | 2nd Lt. J F. McGlinn |
Total: | 133 | 4009 | 4142. | ||
A.S.C. 7th Co. | NSW. | 5 | 138 | 148 | Capt A. McMorland V.D. 2nd. Lt. A.J.B. Sherring 2nd. Lt. C.R.Walsh. |
A.M.C. 4th F. Amb. |
Vic S.A. WA. |
10 | 244 | 254 | Lt. Col. Hon. J.L Beeston. V.D. Major F.D. Jermyn |
Total: | 148. | 4391 | 4539. | ||
2nd L.H.B. | |||||
5th Regt. | Q. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Lt. Col. H.L.I.Harris V.D. Major L.C. Wilson |
6th Regt. | N.S.W. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Lt Col. C.F.Cox, V.D. Capt C.D. Fuller |
7th Regt. | N.S.W. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Lt.Col. J.M. Arnott Maj G.M. Onslow |
Headqrts | N.S.W. | 4 | 30 | 34 | Col Ryrie G de L. Maj. T.J. Lynch B.M. Capt R.N. Pollock. |
(2nd) Signal Troop | N.S.W. | 1 | 42 | 43 | Capt. R.A. Stanley. |
6th Co. A.S.C. | N.S.W. | 6 | 153 | 159 | Capt. C.J. Thomas |
2nd L.H. Field Amb | Q. | 6 | 112 | 118 | Lt.Col. H.K Bean. Maj D.G. Croll |
Total | 92 | 1870 | 1962 | ||
3rd L.H.B. | |||||
H.Q. | Vic. | 4 | 30 | 34 | Col. F.G. Hughes V.D. Lt. Col J.M Antill C.B. B.M. |
8th L.H. | Vic. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Maj. A. H. White. Maj. J.C. O'Brien. |
9th L.H. | S.A. & Vic. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Lt. Col. A. Meill |
10th L.H. | W.A. | 25 | 511 | 536 | Lt. Col. N.M. Brazier. Maj A.J. Love |
3rd Sig. Troop | Vic. | 1 | 42 | 43 | Capt A.R.S. Gartrell |
12th Co. A.S.C. | Vic. | 6 | 153 | 159 | Capt. S.G. Gibbs. Lt. J Rogers. V.C. |
3rd L.H. F. Amb. | Vic. | 6 | 112 | 118 | Lt. Col. R.M. Downes. Maj B.R. White |
92 | 1870 | 1962 |
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Nov. 26th. 1914 Pearce sd state of forces were
Rifle.
Cit forces. 56,298 armed [[shorthand]] 51,153
16.000 movts armed [[shorthand]] 16,000 recruits
67.153. [[shorthand]]
Europe & Pac.
41,180
39,416 1,764
41,180
Cit. 56,298
Abrd. 41,180
Reserve. 67,153
164,631
Europe 1st A.I.F. 20,338 Imp. Reservists 1,200
Preparing 10,258
Tot: 30,596
1st Reinf. 2,820
Tot: 33,416
2nd. 3,000
3rd 3,000
Total : 39,416.
This seems to show : (as 3rd force = 2,338)
1st. A.I.F. 20,338
2nd A.I.F. 7,920
3rd A.I.F. 2,338
Total to be maintd. 30,596
3rd Force has prob. sailed.
Partics of 3rd. Force: =
1 Lt. H. Brig. 1,968
1 Field Batt. 93
4 Veterinary units 258
(65)
1 Fd Butchery 21
2,338
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Musketry: abt 91½p.c. had passed recruits musketry courses but only 7 p.c. were marksmen,
16 p.c. 1st cl. shots
17 p.c. 2nd Cl.
11 p.c. 3rd cl.
Single men: Nearly 90 per cent o / ^first force ws unmarried or widowed - 25 p.c. of the officers
were married - 34 p.c. of the Light Horse Officers.(Men who came from bush.)
2/5 of force ws over 25; abt 1/3 between 21 & 25; & 1/5 under 21.
Nos. who never |
Old Soldiers. |
Old |
Old |
Old |
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Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | Off. | Men | Tot. | |
D.H.Q. | 7 | 15 | 22 | 1 | 6 | 5 | 12 | 7 | |||||||||||||
1st Inf Bde | 1 | 1575 | 1576 | 7 | 402 | 1 | 295 | 44 | 20 | 358 | 1 | 21 | 320 | ||||||||
2nd I.B. | 1 | 1339 | 1340 | 1 | 177 | - | 189 | 65 | 6 | 605 | 2 | 16 | 198 | ||||||||
3rd I.B. | - | 1397 | 1397 | 4 | 418 | 4 | 272 | 44 | 4 | 23 | 267 | ||||||||||
4th L.H. | 1 | 33 | 44 | 1 | 10 | - | 12 | 6 | 8 | 49 | |||||||||||
Div. Arty. | 6 | 949 | 955 | - | 169 | - | 112 | 43 | 4 | 182 | |||||||||||
Div. Eng. | 1 | 222 | 223 | - | 50 | - | 41 | 4 | 3 | 35 | |||||||||||
Div train | 5 | 278 | 283 | 1 | 40 | - | 37 | 5 | 3 | 67 | |||||||||||
A.M.C. | 2 | 290 | 292 | - | 36 | 1 | 51 | 11 | 4 | 56 | |||||||||||
Total. | 24 | 6098 | 6122 | 15 | 1308 | 6 | 1009 | 104 | 1181 | ||||||||||||
Per cent. | 3.83 | 35.24 | abt 1/3 | 2.38 | 7.56 | .95 | 5.83 | ||||||||||||||
1st L.H.B. | 5 | 452 | 457 | - | 99 | - | |||||||||||||||
4th LH. | 1 | 33 | 34 | 1 | 10 | -- | |||||||||||||||
Total. | 6 | 485 | 491 | 1 | 109 | ||||||||||||||||
Per cent 1st LHB |
5.2 | 24.32 | under ¼ | - | 5.38 | -- | |||||||||||||||
[[Park?]] | 1 | 170 | 171 | - | 3 | ||||||||||||||||
Total AIF. |
30 |
6720 | 6750 | 15 | 1410 | 6 | 1109 | ||||||||||||||
Per cent AIF |
4.08 | 34.51 | abt 1/3 | 2.04 | 7.26 | .82 | 5.71 |
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Tot. | Untrained |
Perm. |
Ex Perm |
Brit Reg. |
Ex Brit. |
Militia | Trainees | [[?]] |
Ex Militia |
[[?]] |
Born In Aus |
Born in Emp |
Nat | |
D.H.Q. | 24 | |||||||||||||
1st Inf B. | 131 | |||||||||||||
2nd I.B. | 132 | |||||||||||||
3rd I.B. | ||||||||||||||
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Total AIF. | ||||||||||||||
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Strength | NO Training | Training | P.S. |
Serving at time. |
Previous
Training |
|
D.H.Q. |
94 |
22 |
72 |
|
65 |
7 |
1st I.B. |
4106 |
1576 |
2530 2570 |
|
807 |
1723 |
2nd I.B. |
4117 |
1340 |
2777 |
|
1244 |
1533 |
3rd I.B. |
4103 |
1397 |
2706 |
|
724 |
1982 |
4th L.H. |
565 |
4444 |
54 |
|
311 |
190 |
Div. Arty. |
2755 |
955 |
1800 |
|
859 |
941 |
Div. Engrs. |
793 |
223 |
570 |
|
263 |
307 |
Div Train. |
674 |
283 |
391 |
|
164 |
227 |
A.M.C. |
759 |
292 |
467 |
|
209 |
258 |
Total. |
17,936 |
6,122 |
11,814 |
|
4646 |
7168 |
P.C. |
- |
under 1/4 |
|
|
over 1/4 |
abt 2/5 |
1st. L.H.B. |
1,954 |
457 |
1,497 |
|
773 |
724 |
4th LH. |
555 |
292 |
467 |
|
209 |
258 |
Tot. L.H. |
2489 |
6,122 |
11,841 |
|
4645 |
7168 |
P. C. 1st LHB |
- |
under 1/4 |
|
|
over 1/4 |
abt 2/5 |
Park |
271 |
171 |
100 |
|
38 |
62 |
Total AIF. |
20,161 |
6750 |
13,411 |
|
5457 |
7914 |
P.C. AIF |
- |
abt 1/3 |
|
|
over 1/4 |
abt 2/5 |
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Letter from man who wants to sell [shorthand] in camp.
Absolutely [shorthand] but [shorthand] take 2-3 days to settle.
& letter had to be followed [shorthand]
Egypt [shorthand] method of settling. If hawker happened to
go in & sell instd of getting pass ws to
collect them all in a yard during [shorthand] &
beat them from 6.15 to 7.
(Better say why: ^found selling Tomatoes washed in buckets from
latrines. Bottle of drink offered for sale consisting
of urine & crude spirit).
Typical Staff Officer. [shorthand]. The way he makes his
suggestions. Makes a note of everything.
You (he has forgotten it. He doesn't [shorthand] your
reminding him - but you'll find it has gone
thro. Loyal to a fault. Looking after his chief.
∴ some things [shorthand] as long as the [shorthand] see them
(There are reasons for routine - e.g. cost
etc.)
There's always a tendency to [shorthand] to the
S.O. the credit & to the G.O.C. the fault.
Another typical [shorthand] officer [shorthand]
Detached, & anxious. After [shorthand]
you'll see him walking by himself thinking
He gets his work in at odd hours -
at meals he'll [shorthand] a suggestn. There are
no off hours - he's [shorthand] working things out when
he's doing his morning rear or washing or
lacing his boots. he won't tell you too
much but if you get his [shorthand] its valuable.
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Usually has a No. of devoted admirers.
Staff [shorthand] man
The reg. office comes v. well out of this business.
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Youngster in Eg. Reallah, Kitchenal was an awful [[?]]
called him K of chaos.
Sir Geo. Reid. sd he saw him [shorthand] times (Geo is [shorthand] man
who cd ring K. up in this crisis). It ws like going
into a room used by a [shorthand] gentleman for a
casual visit to town - returning at the weekend.
A.P.M.
Police shd have corporals pay. Unpleasant job..
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To His Right Honourable General Pridgis,
Pyramid Cairo
His Right Honourable
General Pridgis.
My Lord, I have the honour to solicit from your goodness to give
me a permission to sell fruits to the soldiers of the army of
occupation the fruits are
Apples, oranges, mandarin, banana, pears, lettuce, onion, and
so on
May God prolong your life
Your Obedient servant
Yousef Ibrahim
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Lies abt [shorthand] living in Hotel.
Diff betw. Brit
& Turk [shorthand]
4 [shorthand] (Ordn)
Asia m. Kept [shorthand] wanted
Liman & Sanders
1 Thrace. 4 Army Corps 9 divns mobile
250,000
art. cav.
2 Anatolia & Syria 4 mob. divns
14 mob. militia
200,000
Diagram-see original document
3 Armenia . 3 a.c.
8 mob. mil.
4 kurd. cav.
200,000
4 Mesopotamia 2 a.c.
4 mob. mil.
120,000Mokaltain.
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Germans & Interpreter. Youngster (interpreter) asked
[shorthand] armed. Bought weapon ([shorthand]) not on
the register. Asked if he cd on it. Told [shorthand]
[shorthand] to have service one [shorthand] ammunition.
Sd. he wd prefer to take [shorthand]
Germans caught him. Called his [shorthand]
Soft nose & he ws shot. - (They are using some
soft nosed stuff [shorthand])
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THE MEN ROUND THE KAISER.
A Gunner.
Discussing the Anglo-German situation
with my old friend and brother officer,
the late Sir James Grierson, in 1907 at
Aldershot, where he then commanded the
1st Division, he made the following remarks,
which are, I think, of special interest at the
present time.
I asked him why he did not stay out his
full time at Berlin when military attache.
He said, "Because I simply could not stand
any more of it. The place is a perfect hotbed
of intrigue." "What sort of a man is the
Kaiser himself!" I inquired. "oh," he said,
"he is all right, he's a gentleman. But those
around him are perfectly poisonous. This is
the sort of thing they do. One day the
Emperor suddenly said to me: "I am told,
Colonel Grierson, but I need hardly say that
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I don't believe for one moment believe it, that you
have given away to the French all the secrets
of our Q.F. Artillery. Now I wish you would
find out where that statement comes
from, and put it in the form of
an official report, and send it in to
me through the War Office, saying that
you do so by my special personal request.'
In less than a week, " Sir James continued,
"I found that it had originated with ________,
exactly as I expected it had, and so I duly
sent it in as requested, Shortly afterwards
I went on leave for about a month, and when
I returned, the first thing the Emperor said
to me was, 'Oh ! Colonel Grierson, you never
sent me in that report I asked you for about
our Q.F. Artillery.' 'but I beg your Majesty's
pardon,' I said, 'but I sent it in less than
a week after you asked for it.' 'Well,' said
the Kaiser, 'I have never received it. But I
will inquire about it.' Sure enough, the
very next morning," said the General, " a
whole row of them were down at my place,
headed by _________ himself, making most pro-
fuse apologies for the unfortunate oversight
by which my report had been delayed, &c."
It seems to me that people who can de-
liberately accuse a British officer behind his
back of such an unspeakable offence in an
attache as that alleged against General
Grierson and then calmly suppress a report
on it asked for by their Imperial master will
stick at nothing, a view confirmed by recent
diplomatic revelations.
Perhaps, therefore, it would be as well if
some of those speakers and writers -- clerical
and otherwise -- in this country who are
calling the Kaiser every name they dare
would be well advised to somewhat moderate
their accusations as to his personal responsi-
bility for the present cataclysm.
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