Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/37/1 - January - February 1916 - Part 9

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1t5. AMeC. units are to be 79 formed here; & the 4th & 5th Dions will be formed here. Came down in train w sayion House who is now Major General (Bris. Gen. only for one day, I believe & has the only command common to both army corps of our force, & the post of D.M.S., of the A.I.E. If he went back to distralia tomorrow head revert to the rank of Capt. & tempy. Major. A.Y.C. - the most remarkable advancement in our forces). He's a remarkable chap. I hear in the ambulancs of the results of his work - Surgeons, physicians, organisers shifted about in a general post & finding their proper places; they say that for the first time at the date of the evacuation our hospitals (bot in Epipt & on the Penensula) were ready for
80 a realle heavy influx of wounder. qust. No 1 General Hosp. at Cairo for example (Hehopolia Palace Hotel expanded to 5000 beds from about 3500 – Over staffed hospitals are havin their staps reduced. men are ver found on knits in cairo enormously in excess of their requirements & are been begged bribed arged pushed (anything but "ordered Howse says - you mashd order an Anstalin; you may point out to him that he gets promotion be going & loses it if he stays but he want stand an order - which bnt true but I know what he means) back from these sung backwaters into field units Finances are being considered- Eg. two ladies - he wife of a Bits general in Cairs + one oher
are being driven every day to & poin their Red Cross work at Hehopolis Hospital in a motos ambulance costing Howse says, £3 a day not county wages. The work could be done by one sister living at ladies the hospital. Thenel could go to from their work for 4d a day in a train procticall poor door to door. But the Generral says: 1his wife who is giving upher whole time & sacripcin all her comfort & home life to thes Red X work cannot have this little bit of consideration shown her, she is not to do the work at all. As Howse says - that is much the best solition. The question of hese ladies in
82 Egyet is a gather thorny one. I must say to me it seems very much better to keep them right away from war. They are a distraction which does not so well with wate service. The Austalian & N.3. nurses are compllent sisters shosen for the work & they wear a rather tiff greyrred uneform. The Canadcan nurses are larply young sirls who were not nurses before the war & who wear av patures light blue dress with a very handsome dark blue & ved overcoat ornaning with an officers gold stars. Theres ne question which is the most attractive to the officers - naval & military officers swarmed round the aadian hospitals. Also it seems to me there io no nestion which is best for war the Austialian Goot is right & the Anadian Goot wrong. The generals wife presents
83 another problem. The wife of a surgeon gent-for example. If w her husband she is in Egypt & applies to particular young R.A.M.C. officer for a room for her RedX work, for some other picvilege which she ought really not to have - how can be refuse her ? It is not right to have thast women here. An order has been issued forbedding British French or Italian women from landan in Egipt & the order is being strict Enforced- of our chaptalis leave for could not get his wife to come altho it was only by a of the Pay Depf. mestake (that. she had not come previously I saw Col. Lee of the 9th. Battn. in Cairo yesterday. Now Lee is one of the men who ought not to be allowed to
84 continue in the forces; theres no mistake about that The HoW. 3. A.C. staff ordered him to be boarded & sent home -& he was boarded in Malta & sent to England (as no other boats were available). In England be was, I believe, boarded as fit forduty & was allowed to remain for 5 months; & it was a surprise to me to see him in Carro yeste. Now the questin abt him is this. Medically he is fit for duty. A medical board has quite right said so; if it had boarded him as unfit he might have got a pension, & it is utterly wrong to Australia snd have to pay pensions to such men. The staff - that is Bordwood - ought to send him back as a plain statement to he is unfit to be given.
65 command in our army as shown w by his action on & after the day of the landing. But Bordwood for some reason - or White, or whoever is responsible- doesn't like taking this responsibily Birdwood is unsure of what the Aushalian Gost might think - I suppose. It was the same with Gen. Hughes (whom he hemself told me he didn't want back & So House says, with Courtney they saY who did not visit his own trenches but got a C.B. (I'm not so sure if the statement about Courtney isn't exaperated] anyway abt Hughes & Lee its not) The result is Les will probably go back to Australia get a command - possible a high command there. Howse
says theres a possibile of Botton coming back wetth a brigade! Of McVea Comcy back in a good command. Good god! One man like that can half annihilate a brigade i its first action to say nothing of spoeling it in its training House is given to Exaperation + I hope he was palling my leg. If any of those officers do get a high command - or any fighting command - through the Austialian poot not having been told I trath about them, then Birdwood or the a mora staff are guilty of a very cowardice which will have very serious results.
67 Fid Feb. 18th Stayed night at 15t Aust. Stationary Hosp. in their Convent at Amailia. Howse was also their guest. His gynicism is very clever & hesg brillinty good head in many ways; but it doesn't show ap well beside the human gentleness of a man like Col. Powell, our loat, who sat between us at mess House says all his requietal medical officers in the 1t Divn were splendid men w two exceptions two who cracked up at once. He others were almost perfect, "be sd. certainly my old brother Tock did splendid honost work for them. I cans down by De Boiser launch to Serapena. Poor chap - be hosal even yet heard news of his brother I have had a week of hell "be told me, & you can inayie what it wast have been for the poor dd mater. At Serapecum I took the
Field The 4th & 8th Coys of Engrs (wh were originally formed in Egyot for the End. Devnb wh afterwos receive from Austratio its companies (5. will be avsilable for I new Devns. The 3Coys of 1st Den will prob. form another & these of and Dwn another – wh leaves 5to con 3rd Bde with form Inf: 49.50.51.52 from 9 10th 111 121 & the men transferred will wear their old colours with a ring. "I hope s0 sd an officer o 1 9th to me I shoul called like to be a super. Dunkurn The men call the 2od Disn the Dinkuns bec. they are sd to aver th they were ( Peal Austialians; the 8th Bde are the Super Dinkums's & the lot now arriving are the War Babies! 86 Harac Dook proop round to I regiments 2 field ambulances (2x1) & 2nd Bd. HS I find te besides my bed & pack disappairy from my lugage in route from Madis Jacks Steeping bag has been ripped ofen Wellaby & one whole side of in, skens & all, cut right away with a knife - what seto theeves we have with us lal experience sujpestf'd that these might have been Arabs. 2/4/19 The corganisation is going ahear on the principle to eachod our old accisions sends part of ats personall to the units of new: division Eg. 7t Ba seems to be forming the 53rd. Theyary sending o the men away Irving has 15th Bde; Glasfard racone the 12th (I believe) and Col. Elliott another, & Jlasgow another. End 3id 1234 5678 9101112 15t 7t 50 End 17 18 1920 21 22324 2526 2728 N. 3- Deon. NE 915. Br 12t 17t 2,343536 37383940 4197,4344. 122 416 54 1t B3-24. 15 16 29.30-31.32. 45.46.47.48. 1416 49 S0 57 S2 SESHSFSS 17O8 59 60

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its A.M.C units are to be
formed here; & the 4th & 5th
Divns will be formed here.
Came down in train w
Howse who is now ^Surgeon Major General
(Brig. Gen. only for one day, I believe)
& has the only command common
to both army corps of our force,
& the post of D.M.S. of the A.I.F.
(If he went back to Australia tomorrow
he wd revert to the rank of Capt.
& tempy. Major A.M.C. - the
most remarkable advancement
in our forces). He's a remarkable
chap. xx I hear in the ambulances
of the results of his work - surgeons,
physicians, organisers shifted
about in a general post & 
finding their proper places;
they say that for the first time
at the date of the evacuation
our hospitals (both in Egypt &
on the Peninsula) were ready for
 

 

80
a really heavy influx of wounded.
No 1 Aust. general Hosp. at Cairo for
example (Heliopolis Palace Hotel)
expanded to 5000 beds from about
3500 - Overstaffed hospitals
are having their staffs reduced;
men are being found on units in
Cairo enormously in excess of
their requirements & are being
begged bribed urged pushed
anything but "ordered", Howse 
says - you mustn't order an
Australian ; you may point out
to him that he gets promotion by
going & loses it if he stays but
he wont stand an order - which
isn't true but I know what he 
means) back from these snug
backwaters into field units.
Finances are being considered -
e.g. two ladies _ the wife of a
British General in Cairo & one other
 

 

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are being driven every day
to & from their Red Cross work
at Heliopolis Hospital in
a motor ambulance costing
Howse says, £3 a day not counting
wages. The work could be
done by one sister living at
the hospital. The General ladies
could go to & from their work
for 4d a day in a tram
- practically from door to door.
But the General says: "If his
wife who is giving up her whole
time & sacrificing all her
comfort & home life to this
Red X work cannot have
this little bit of consideration
shown her, she is not to do
the work at all." As Howse

says - that is much the best
solution.
The question of these ladies in
 

 

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Egypt is a rather thorny one.
I must say to me it seems very
much better to keep them right 
away from war. They are a 
distraction which does not go well
with war service. The Australian &
N.Z. nurses are competent sisters
chosen for the  work & they wear a
rather stiff grey & red uniform. The
Canadian nurses are largely young
girls who were not nurses before
the war & who wear a picturesque
light blue dress with a very handsome
dark blue & red overcoat ornamented
with an officer's gold stars. There's
no question which is the most
attractive to the officers - naval
& military officers swarmed
round the Canadian hospitals.
Also it seems to me there is no
question which is best for war - 
the Australian Govt is right &
the Canadian Govt wrong.
The General's wife presents

 

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another problem. The wife of
a surgeon Genl - for example . If
she is in Egypt ^w her husband & applies to a
young R.A.M.C. officer for a ^particular room
for her Red X work, or for some
other privilege which she ought
really not to have - how can he
refuse her? The It is not right
to have these women here. An 
order has been issued
forbidding British French or
Italian women from landing in
Egypt & the order is being strictly
enforced - one of our chaplains
could not get ^leave for his wife to come
altho' it was only by a 
mistake ^of the Pay Dept. that she had not come
previously.
I saw Col. Lee of the 9th
Battn. in Cairo yesterday. Now
Lee is one of the men who
ought not to be allowed to
 

 

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continue in the forces; there's
no mistake about that -
The A&N.Z.A.C. staff ordered him 
to be boarded & sent home - &
he was boarded in Malta & sent
to England (as no other boats
were available). In England he
was, I believe, boarded as fit
for duty & was allowed to
remain for 5 months; & it
was a surprise to me to see
him in Cairo yesty.
Now the question abt him is
this. Medically he is fit for duty.
A medical board has quite rightly
said so; if it had boarded him as
unfit he might have got a
pension, & it is utterly wrong tt
Australia shd have to pay pensions
to such men. The staff - that is
Birdwood - ought to send him
back w a plain statement tt
he is unfit to be given a
 

 

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command in our army
owing to as shown by his action on & 
after the day of the landing. But
Birdwood for some reason - or
White, or whoever is responsible -
doesn't like taking this responsibility.
Birdwood is unsure of what the
Australian Govt might think - I
suppose. It was the same with
Gen. Hughes (whom he himself
told me he didn't want bach)
& so Howse says, with Courtney
who ^they say did not visit his own
trenches but got a C.B., -
(I'm not sure if the statement
about Courtney isn't exaggerated) -
anyway abt Hughes & Lee it's
not).
The result is Lee will
probably go back to Australia
& get a command - possibly
a high command there. Howse
 

 

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says there's a possibility
of Bolton coming back with
a brigade! Of McVea
coming back in a good command.
Good God! One man like that
can half annihilate a brigade
in its first action
to say nothing of spoiling it in
its training.
Howse is given to
exaggeration & I hope he
was pulling my leg. If
any of those officers do get
a high command - or any
fighting command - through 
the Australian Govt not
having been told / truth about
them, then Birdwood or the
staff are guilty of a very a moral 
cowardice which will have
very serious results.
 

 

87
Frid Feb. 18th. Stayed night at 1st
Aust. Stationary Hosp. in their 
Convent at Ismailia. Howse
was also their guest. His
cynicism is very clever & he's a
brilliantly good head in many ways; but
xxx it doesn't show up well
beside the human gentleness of
a man like Col. Powell, our host,
who sat between us at mess.
Howse says all his regimental
medical officers in the 1st Divn were
splendid men w two exceptions _
two who cracked up at once. The
others were "almost perfect," he sd.
Certainly my old brother Jock did
splendid honest work for them.
I came down by Dr Boise's
launch to Serapeum. Poor
chap - he hasn't even yet
heard news of his brother. "I
have had a week of hell ' he
told me," & you can imagine
what it must have been for the
poor old mater".
At Serapeum I took the
 

 


 

The 4th & 8th ^Field Coys of Engrs (wh were
originally formed in Egypt for the 2nd
Divn. will be ready wh afterwards received
its companies (5, 6, & 7) from Australia),
will be available for / new Divns - The
3 coys of each 1st Divn will prob. form another,
& those of 2nd Divn another - wh leaves 5 to come
_______________________________________
Inf: 3rd Bde will form
49, 50, 51, 52
from 9th 10th 11th 12th & the men
transferred will wear their old
colours with a [[ring?]]. "I hope so"
sd an officer o / 9th to me - "I shdn't
like to be ^called a Super - Dinkum".
The men call the 2nd Divn the Dinkums
bec. they are sd to aver tt they were / Real
Australians; the 8th Bde are the
Super Dinkums; & the lot now arriving
are the War Babies!
 

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Anzac Book proofs round to 3 regiments 18,7, .8
2 field ambulances (2 & 1) & 2nd Bde H.Q.
I find tt besides my bed & pack disappearing
from my luggage en route from Mudros
Jacks sleeping bag has been ripped open
& one whole side of it, ^wallaby skins & all,
cut right away with a knife - what
a set of thieves we have with us. [Later
experience suggested that these might have been Arabs. 2/4/19]
The reorganisation is going ahead
on the principle tt each of our
old divisions send part of its
personnel to the units o / new: 
division; e.g. 7th Bn seems to be
forming the 53rd. They are sending ½ the men away at once.
Irving has 15th Bde; Glasfurd
the 12th (I believe) and Col. Elliott
another,.& Glasgow another.
   1st           2nd           3rd
1 2 3 4    5 6 7 8    9 10 11 12 ___________ 1st.
    5th                 6th              7th
17 18 19 20    21 22 23 24   25 26 27 28 ________ 2nd
N.Z Divn. _____________________
    9th.   10th.      10th.       12th.    11th
33,34,35,36     37 38 39 40   41,42,43,44 _______ 3rd
    4th                  8th                  12th
13-14-15-16   29-30-31-32-   45.46.47.48. ________ 4th
    13th                   14th               15th
49 50 51 52   53 54 55 56   57 58 59 60 _________ 5th
[*[This of course is wrong - 4 Divn contains 4, 12 & 13 Bdes
& 5 Divn 8, 14 &15]*]






 

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