Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/35/1 - March 1915 - Part 1

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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of C E W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606/3517 Title: Notebook, March 1915 Contains notes on subjects such as the French, the Turks, the Army Service Corps, chaplains, shells, the censor and artillery. AWMISS-3DRI6061351
PIARY. NC. 3S. g al 30RL 606 ITEN 35 AWM38 -- DIARIES.AND WOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Anstralian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very fired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so —but it does not follow that he always discevered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind. AUSTRALIEN MEMCRI 16 Sept, 1946. C. E. W. BEAN. ACCESS STATUS AMMMMMIMMMMMUMMMMIMMIMMIII Cor a Jen te 500 Ae. 5 D a D Votes 1
Note
fenee Festock 15 Palern toof knee Kei Pastern 400 L0 t Mnten t
Argus mar 16/18 comnands 5th LH. Col. R. Spinan Browne CBV.D. fram 3r0 (Darlin Downs) LH. A. Col. W. Grant from 516 (New England) 4A. Maj. P.R. Abbott 5th Inf. Brigade, Col. W. Holmes D.S.O, VD. 6th Inf Bnjade: Col. R. Linton Battalions 17. Col. TPaton NSW R N. Col. W.W.R. Watson V.D Iw 19. L Col. HE. Chapman VE 20. L Col. W. Dolman 1D SAOVic. vic 21. PCl. R.A. Crouch VD 1E. H.A. Goddard 8 23. HCol. S.F. Hutchinson Vic 3o D Col. G. F. Morton. viz Reason why only S6 guns wo us is Have hadnt the wayons in Aust for more than to no. Wayous have to be armoured w special steel & we oub had our 15t line wayous armouned (or possibly at all). You cant get tt steel in Australia, Accity we had to rob the wshole your batteries to provide the 2 1/2 to 3 wayors needed for every gun on active service. There are still 96 guns in Aust, but no vayous. We may get the 14Bdeofarty & te howitzes for our End Din. Oherwise it compo ar D The Ge TheC she B 6
mast be all R.F.A.
In the Dorset, Wiltshire, & Shropshire when N 4th reiaf. the c) ox1 hot - the losses were 36,37,38 out of abt 440 3 rach. Star of Victoria Ste -not such fine ships, oot oa much less. Peason was want of ventitale, maj. of ith posses were in lower decks & 2after holds 87.34 pL33 on lwer. 2e keing: The Rfo. who were in mena before we tonely att 3I pp. siice 4t Rbsymen abt 30 & fine N.F2. Beny 9.91 12P. 5 a and
An codated suiper isn't work a shot. Its a queste if a make train is. A staf is always work it. A camel or two- if you see no other target – or a man digping ne 11often no us y rCUC.D.L50 antte P.P.8c - 17t Our Auetile & (914 oneyou a on duty on a certain JS 67 et aY. Cosec 29t 6M 8ga. 65 this howr e (DestroyerIs Tie2t. A Observate Pats - Lawluck to Everyone uses them. Gongaclon Dunny gun near but at Angac when we landed turties Prinature buror of Burjess no 2 gan - right gus Ge At the maggle 2ce in totety menutes beC. We Daw it atnd & hear shrapnel ahig over as. E I ws w Blancy at time. Infantry 7I annoyed abt it. They Cg a traitor in one bettery & were quite ready to march over & deal io him (early days).
D. 5 Somemen I to theive from I dead. Mojs Broces glasses had fone as soon as eve he fell he as v 10i ys callowsness not in actio. Bullet went thoo man behind lines & be fell on his tinces & hand H Frce kick for 2 Sydney sd a man on Another fine chap was carried from trench hit by swell. The's unsheed, sir, sd a mate to an officer. Thase men wd have gone tho10 anything to save I man's life – but death is held v. cheap, when once it occurs, in war. Ais only varcry the first morning was "Prushs yalla yer bastards - or "Imshi 19r0 - & the Turk certainly imstried. A turkist attack consists of instricing as soon as our men realy get out at him - They come a little way & then some tern - & the rest to a confsion of men coming towards you + men hurrying away Got Chupatties & L, bread from French at Helles. soldier M Ge Indian munick down on beach, "English soldin. Shrapnel 2 cowered under tho biscuit boxco. "Australian soldier tarned round & looked at it calmly Bessel Brown has a tine pup. Took it alon to Col. Brown of 4th. "I say B. Fie brought you along a watch doy; he sd. A thought you might like to put if oute y in pont to Cok after your barbet were. I hear 1 turks getters up as ntgh & have by stealy some from you man walking up ath when shell by so close t his head to he seemed to be a certainly- He weither tooked to it not left took not paintes I notice. shouted at Turks on May 19 will slay you agn next Sunday, Man w Beriscope Refle - I m tered of figeling tuules Im going to play in crictect now maw will mess tin obviously goinl bak. 14 going tohave a bayes - I wish I were bloody canary If any one fires DIt 1 give him? set -cy cyjarette cards.
host men in Quanns when bomb exploces. One asks other: Is that ours or theirs ? Theirs says the other. No1. The Bastard pesaiing Can in provied barrow. Hear inter Maj. Hancock Ed in Austialian castiy east in o beass Did you make it be asked. The man stared ap at him as if blown out by his want of understandag. No - I wish I idfind 1began who did? shells go by without ?"Mabe in senrany there fellows.
13/6/15 Came upt tal were outside 30d Bn some i ago Brosel Brown offered Col. B. his little dog as a wd Sec. July 261h.

AWM38

Official History,

1914-18 War:  Records of C E W Bean,

Official Historian.

Diaries and Notebooks

Item Number: 3DRL606/35/1

Title:  Notebook, March 1915

Contains notes on subjects such as the French,

the Turks, the Army Service Corps, chaplains,

shells, the censor and artillery.
AWM38-3DRL606/35/1 

 

Original DIARY NO 35.

AWM38        3DRL 606    ITEM 35 [1] 

DIARIES AND NOTES OF C.E.W. BEAN

CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918

The use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial.  But, apart from these terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them.

These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true.  The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;
also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered.  Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.
These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing, believed.  Further, he cannot, of course, vouch

 the for accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded.  But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as
possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events.  The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are
founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day
of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that those who
passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to
be true.  All second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
16 Sept., 1946
C.E.W. Bean
AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN 

 

Notes B.
Diagram - See original

 

[*The Job*}
Diagram -  See original
Diagram - See original

 

[*Compos*]
Argus Mar 16/15
Commands
4th Left Col. R. Spencer Browne CB,VD.
from 3rd (Darling Downs) L.H.
Lt. Col  W. Grant
from 5th (New England) L.H.
Maj P.P. Abbott
5th Inf Brigade: Col W. Holmes D.S.O., V.D.
6th Inf Brigade: Col. R. Linton
Battalions, ? 17. Col. J. Paton       :Q
18 Lt. Col. W.W.R. Watson V.D.   NSW
17. Lt Col. A.E. Chapman V.D.      NSW
20. Lt Col. W. Dollman VD          SA or Vic.
21 .Lt Col. R.A. Crouch VD            Vic
22 Lt Col. H.A. Goddard               Q
23. Lt Col. J.F. Hutchinson            Vic
24 Lt Col. G.F. Norton                    Vic
——

Reason why only 36 guns w us is tt we had not the
waggons in Aust for more than tt no. Wagons
have to be armoured w special steel & we only
had one 1st line waggons armoured (or possibly at
all). You cant get tt steel in Australia. Accty we
had to rob the whole of our batteries to provide the
2 ½ to 3 waggons needed for every gun on active
service.  There are still 96 guns in Aust. but
no waggons. We may get 64 the 1st Bde of arty
& the howitzers for our 2nd Div. otherwise it

 

must be all R.F.A.

 

[*Reinf. Transport.*]
Tpt.
In the Dorset, Wiltshire, & Shropshire when training 4th reinf.

the weather was smooth but hot - the losses were 36, 37, 38 out of abt 
440 horses each. Star of Victoria etc - not such fine ships, lost
much less. Reason was want of ventilation. Maj. of 

losses were in  lower decks and 2 after holds e.g. 3 horses 
that died on the top deck & 33 on lower.

Rfs 

 Reinf:  The Rfs. who were in Mena before we
left are very touchy abt being confused with the Rfs. since. 
410 Rfs., men abt 30 & fine material but little training. 
Being trained every day at back of lines.

 

[*Artillery*]

An isolated sniper isn't worth a shot. It's a question if 
a mule train is.  A staff is always worth it.  A camel or two - 
if you see no other target - or a man digging makes you 
overly excited. But it is often no us firing just make them uncomfortable. The average should have 50 
shells a day to play with can do so.  Our Austrln batteries have a system of having 
one gun always on duty on a certain touchy spot. The moment they get a ring on the telephone they have only to loose up. Hqrs have been tremendously pleased with this system.

This lowers where the gain would next be anothers gain.
Destroyer position are in man June 28.)
Observation Posts - hard luck tt everyone uses them.
Diagram - See original
Dummy Turkish gun near hut at Anzac when we landed
Premature burst of Cadd Burgess no 2 gun - right 
at the muzzle 2ce in twenty minutes bec. we saw it 
and heard shrapnel whizz over us.
I ws w Blamey at time. Infantry
Diagram - See original
Getting very annoyed abt it.
They thought there was a traitor in one battery & were quite ready to 
march over & deal w him (^in early days).

 

[*The Australian*]
Some men are prone to thieve from the dead.  Maj. Braces glasses had gone
as soon as even he fell - he was found 10 months later in a communication trench. 
Callousness natl in actn. the Bullet went thro man behind lines & he fell
on his knees & hands Ac badly hit. "Free kick from E Sydney" sd was a man maimed. 
Another fine chap was carried from trench hit by shell.
"He's imshied, sir," sd a mate to an officer - Those men wd have
gone thro anything to save the man's life - but death is held v. 
cheap, when once it occurs, in war.

His only war cry the first morning was "(mushi yalla yer 
bastards" or "Imshi lgri" - & the Turk certainly
imshied. A Turkish attack consists of imshi-ing as.
Soon as our men realy get out at him - they come a little 
way & then some turn - & the rest is a confusion of men 
coming towards you & men hurrying away.
Got chupatlies from Indians, bread from French at Hellas. 
——
Indian ^soldier mimick down on beach:  "English soldier - shrapnel" 
cowered under the biscuit boxes. "Australian soldier" 
turned round and looked at it calmly.
——
Bessel Brown has a tiny pup. Took it along to Col. Brown 
of 4th. "I say B. I've brought you along a watch dog,"
he sd. "Thought you might like to put it outxx xx in 
front to look after your barbed wire - I hear the Turks 
here bn ^getting up at night & stealing some". from you 
Man walking up path when shell exploded & took not 
so close to his head tt he seemed to be right
certainty - he neither looked to rt nor left - took not 
faintest notice.
Shouted at Turks on May 19 we'll play you 
agn next Sunday.
Man w Periscope Rifle - I'm tired of fighting Turks 
I'm going to play em cricket now.
Man with mess tin obviously going to have a bath. 
"going to have a bath?" "Yes xx I wish I were a bloody canary."
If any one fires a rifle by accident: give him a pop gun! 
Set your collected cigarette cards!

 

[*The French*]
Men in Quinns when bomb explodes.  One asked other:  Is that  
No 1. "The Bastard!".
Maj. Hancock was asking ^saw perspiring Australian carting earth in  a barrow ^an improvised barrow. He was interested.

"Did you make it" he asked.
The man stared up at him as if blown out by his want of

understanding:  No - I wish I cd find the beggar who did".
——

3 shells go by without bursting! " Made in Germany those fellows".

 

[*The Turks*]
18/6/15

Came up & cut wire outside 3rd Bn some nights ago.
Basel Brown offered Col. B. his little dog xx as a watchdog.
See July 26th.

 

 

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