Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/276/1 - 1928-1937 - Part 9

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4 MSW. -TAPR1937 Lytton RECE:VED ffer Beaconsfieca 3 April 1937 The Saitor of Heverke Dear Sir It is a pleasure to be allowed & give you a few notes on General Sir John Mronesh. W leke of 30 March only rached me today and this cannot reach you until the 6th at carliest, but I hope that it will be in time I Shonea prefes that my name did not aspear. YYours Sincere $60001
Monach. Nate on Cnnere E I first wel him in 1909 or 1910, in his capacity as hairman ofre Tention Band to one conld fail to be imressed by his grast of detail, his infinite patience in exaniining any idea put before him, and his kindness towards inventors, even when (as was often the cage) thei weas were Valiceless or Chimericie He would often go to some trouble explain to inventor to be of any use; just exactty why the invention faileay he would never allow them to be deensed iito further useless eforts & a non- Commitat reply Then, at
Phen, at the was, those who served closely under him tarned that his patience was great his kindness towards those who were really trying was wonderful, and his grast of detaie was ummense. Those whom he trusted, he trustee fully When he believed that they understood his his appreciation ceas his plan, he left to them the carrying out of detail He never interfered mss an with his suboramates - not more often han as a rle once - then, he got another man for that (ob to use keeping a dog, and doing your own oarking was a saying of his let his snboramate To show how he e
Mn. thei own strow let me mention the / of after the Corps Conference August 1918. On that day had explames teis to my suboramate the plan, as fas as it afected them the action to be taken, ana the part each was to play. Ken, knowing the there would be a busy night in posit of are, I turned in, about & pen asleep dates in the afternoon, General tonash, after chaping me on being able to sleep on a not afternoon, said was very glad to ham as I knew that there was see you, M. one man at any rate, whose uid was at rest about his job of work He was always ready to Stich u
ap for his suboramate. f other authout tried to "deal it out to tem. A inistate made in good fait never brought censure from him, beyond a quiet expeanation of whac one might have done. He was too large-minces to lose his temper, or to get fluried, even at the unstates of others And, tike all real teavers of Solaier. he always kept- b fore him, and before his stak, the comfort and well-being. So far as it could be secured, of his troop ot enough credit has been given to him for his great work in regatriationg the was the 380,000 Hustrations after
5 People do not relise the dificultie with which he had to contend. The men were anxlous to get home, There was every chance of trouble owing to a lot of mis- guded talk; Shipping was scarce, tr and unsuilable; Strihes delayed the out. fitting of the branshorts; the French Eailway System was hopeless, and here was a constant wch political inleiference both from England and Hustialia But he stuck to his Cash, Once, in my hearing - for I was very close to him in those Semobanst lays - a high Official Monash, this tob does you great said creait.
C said Sir John, As Youve cone wonders long as the men get- home safely, and reasonable suchly, I dont care & Laum about that He gave one he feeling that you must not let him down in any 1o6 you underlook do to would make him for him 6or to he had trusted you wish the pl that Sorry CHSor 3.4.3)
CENERAL JIR JOHN MONASH C.C.M.O; R.C.B; V.P., 1.1.D. By Major General Sir Charles Rosenthal In the year 1853 a young man named MONASH, god 21 arrived in Austratea as an immignant, intending t seek his fortune on the Gold Fields, but instead, he deceded to forgo the possibility of rapidly accmulating gold, and turned his attention to Commerce Iee due course he married and on the 27th June, 1865. a son TottN was born in West-Melbowine one who was distened to occupy a distinguished place in Australian affairs When John Monash was 9 year of ge his parents mored D SERILDERIE in hSwales and here the family lived until John was taken to Melboume in 1877 to continue his education. The story of his stredies from the date of his euty Scots Callege in 1877. until he graduated in various faculties at the Melbourne Mincisily makes most interesting reading In 1881 he was Dux of his College, Dux in Mathematecs and in Moder Languages. In 1882 he entered Melbowine Universily, and as the years went by, took the Degreet of L.L.B, and N.C.E. later qualifying as a Municipal Surveyor, Engineer for Water Sepply and Patent Attarney At the early age of 19 he was appointed on Construction
work on Princes Bridge, Melbourne and later on Queeus Bridge and Falls railway bridge. In 1896 he took up remforced Concrete work and was perhaps the first austalian Frymeer to denloss this type of construction. John Marash was sought for throughout Austratea in Arbitiation matters his extensive knowledge both of Exmneering and the Law, making him a most valuable witness. His Melitay training Commenced at the Melbocrne unversity being a private in the Murusets Company of the Victoran Militia. When thes Company was disbanded in 1887 Monash immediately took a Convession in the Victorian Yarrison Cnteller. In 1912 he was appointed to the Command of the B3- Infarety Brigade having prenously servid with the Intelligence Cap and was in Coremand of this Brigade when General Sir Jan Hamieton as Tuspectar General of Dominion Forces visited Austalia Shortly after the outheak of war in 1914, Monast was appointed to the Command of the & - Bryade A.l.t. and when his prerious career is senewed it will be realised he was probably better fitted for high Command than any other soldier regular or militia that Austratian has produced (2
General Monasho years of Service with the A.I.F. are well known. His work with the 4h Brigade at Gallepoll and later in France well qualified him for the Command the 3rd Division to which he was appointed in July 1916. He aganised and trained this Formation in England took it & France and in 1917 took part in the Battles of Messines Broodescinde and Passchendadle all & which added to his outslanding military reputation, and brought him directly and contenuously under the eyes of the Commander in Chief When the Ferman Armies launched their ferial attack early in 1918, General Marash's Division was mand Saithward and heed up the enemys advance on the Tomme and al Villersbrittonenx the latter being a vital paint in the British Front live Shortly afterwards, upon the appointeent General Budnood to the Command of the 5th Arms Monash was selected to succeed him in the Comand of the Australian Corp, and at this time also the Brilish Generals who had Conemanded the 1st and 2 Austatian Division were appointed to Britesh Devision, and were succeeded & Austratean Generals. From the moment Monash assumed Command of the Austialian Cap of 5 Divisions his personalely (3

R.S.S.I.L.A.
NSW BRANCH
-7 APR 1937
RECEIVED
Brig Gen C H Foott
RECEIVED
Lytton
Upper Beaconsfield
3 April 1937.
The Editor of "Reveille"
Dear Sir,
It is a pleasure to be allowed to give
you a few notes on General Sir John Monash.
Your letter of 30th March only reached me
today and this cannot reach you until
the 6th at earliest, but I hope that it will be
in time. I should prefer that my name
did not appear.
Yours Sincere
C H Foott
JMC
 

 

Notes on General Sir J. Monash.
I first met him in 1909 or 1910, in his
capacity as Chairman of the Invention Board.
No one could fail to be impressed by his
grasp of detail, his infinite patience in
examining any idea put before him, and
his kindness towards inventors, even when
(as was often the case) their ideas were
valueless or chimerical. He would often
go to some trouble to explain to xxx inventors
just exactly why the invention failed ^to be of any use; he
would never allow them to be deluded
into further useless efforts by a 
non-committal reply
Then, at
 

 

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Then, at the War, those "who served closely
under him learned that his patience was
great, his kindness towards those who were
really trying was wonderful, and his grasp
of detail was immense.
Those whom he trusted, he trusted fully.
When he believed that they understood his
ideas ^his "appreciation", his plan, he left to them the carrying
out of detail.  He never interfered unless
he with his subordinates - not more often than
once - then,as a rule, he got another man for that
job. "No use keeping a dog, and doing
your own barking" was a saying of his.
To show how he let his subordinates run
 

 

3.
run their own show, let me mention the 7th of
August 1918. On that day ^after the Corps Conference, I had explained
their to my subordinates the plan, as far as
it affected them, the action to be taken, and
the part each was to play. Then, knowing that
there would be a busy night in front
of me, I turned in, about 4 p.m., for a sleep.
Later in the afternoon, General Monash, after
chaffing me on being able to sleep on a
hot afternoon, said "I was very glad to
see you, xxxxx X_____, for I knew that there was
one man, at any rate, whose mind was
at rest about his job of work."
He was always ready to "stick up"
 

 

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up" for his subordinates, if other authority
tried to "deal it out" to them. A mistake made
in good faith never brought censure from
him, beyond a quiet explanation of what
one might have done. He was too large-minded
to lose his temper, or to get flurried, even
at the mistakes of others.
And, like all real leaders of soldiers,
he always kept before him, and before
his Staff, the comfort and well-being, so
far as it could be secured, of his troops.
Not enough credit has been given to
him for his great work in repatriating
the 300,000 Australians after the war. 

 

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People do not realise the difficulties
with which he had to contend. The men
were anxious to get home, there was every
chance of "trouble", owing to a lot of
 misguided talk; shipping was scarce, xxx
and unsuitable; strikes delayed the 
out-fitting of the transports; the French railway
system was hopeless, and there was
a constant itch of political interference
both from England and Australia.
But he stuck to his task. Once, in my
hearing - for I was very close to him in
those "Demobaust" days - a high Official
said "Monash, this job does you great
credit,
 

 

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You've done wonders".  Said Sir John, "As
long as the men get home safely, and
reasonably quickly, I dont care a damn
about that".
He gave one the feeling that you must
not "let him down" in any job you undertook
for him, for to do so would make him
sorry that he had trusted you with the job.
C.H Foott
3.4.37
 

 

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GENERAL SIR JOHN MONASH
G.C.M.G; K.C.B; V.D., L.L.D.
By Major General Sir Charles Rosenthal
In the year 1853 a young man named MONASH, aged 21,
arrived in Australia as an immigrant, intending to seek
his fortune on the Gold Fields, but, instead, he decided to
forgo the possibility of rapidly accumulating gold, and
turned his attention to Commerce.
In due course he married and on the 27th June, 1865,
a son, JOHN, was born in West-Melbourne, one who was
destined to occupy a distinguished place in Australian affairs.
When John Monash was 9 years of age, his parents moved
to JERILDERIE in NSWales, and here the family lived until
John was taken to Melboume in 1877 to continue his education.
The story of his studies from the date of his entry to
Scots College in 1877, until he graduated in various faculties
at the Melbourne University makes most interesting reading.
In 1881 he was Dux of his College, Dux in Mathematics
and in Modern Languages. In 1882 he entered
Melbourne University, and as the years went by, took the
Degrees of L.L.B, and M.C.E, later qualifying as a
Municipal Surveyor, Engineer for Water Supply and
Patent Attorney
At the early age of 19 he was appointed on Construction
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work on Princes Bridge, Melbourne and later on
Queen's Bridge and Falls railway bridge.
In 1896 he took up reinforced concrete work and
was perhaps the first Australian Engineer to develop
this type of construction.
John Monash was sought for throughout Australia
in Arbitration matters, his extensive knowledge both of
Engineering and the Law, making him a most valuable
witness.
His Military training commenced at the Melbourne
University being a private in the University Company
of the Victorian Militia. When this Company was
disbanded in 1887, Monash immediately took a
Commission in the Victorian Garrison Artillery.
In 1912 he was appointed to the Command of the 13th
Infantry Brigade having previously served with the
Intelligence Corps and was in Command of this
Brigade when General Sir Ian Hamilton, as Inspector
General of Dominion Forces visited Australia.
Shortly after the outbreak of war in 1914, Monash
was appointed to the Command of the 4th  Brigade A.I.F,
and when his previous career is reviewed it will
be realised he was probably better fitted for high Command
than any other soldier, regular or militia, that Australia
has produced
(2)
 

 

General Monash's years of Service with the A.I.F, are
well known. His work with the 4th Brigade at Gallipoli
and later in France well qualified him for the
Command ^of the 3rd Division to which he was appointed
in July 1916. He organised and trained this Formation
in England, took it to France and in 1917 took
part in the Battles of Messines, Broodeseinde and
Passchendaele, all of which added to his outstanding
military reputation, and brought him directly and
continuously under the eyes of the Commander in Chief.
When the German armies launched their final
attack early in 1918, General Monash's Division was
moved Southward and heed up the enemy's advance
on the Somme and at Villers brettoneux, the latter being
a vital point in the British Front line.
Shortly afterwards, upon the appointment of
General Birdwood to the Command of the 5th Army,
Monash was selected to succeed him in the Command
of the Australian Corps, and at this time also
the British Generals who had commanded the
1st and 2nd Australian Divisions, were appointed
to British Divisions, and were succeeded &
Australian Generals.
From the moment Monash assumed Command
of the Australian Corps of 5 Divisions, his personality
(3)
 

 
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