Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/275/1 - 1918 - 1938 - Part 4

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8 may. Obde rept 5.15 am. It ws lept to We had line K19Agg9 & Rat CDd. Ournen seenabt K 19c85 but notng known ofpouater 1929On reptt at KESAEJ 2m.C. of the 39th, who left wik him the osab to atack at pm. McMuin got he same order at 9.30. They both totd Capt. Peree that there was not time Methenver they only had time to write to the Companies telling them their objectives & the teace of the barrage. receive DAC A Map was sent with the order. 2t633 33 Thenight was intusely dark. Beaver & his C.S.M. went fowward peaking ap one plation and reached an assembly posita but there was no chancedf ceeny wheteer other Rlotoons were there when the barrage fell. They advanced behind it until it stopped, when feaver stopped his man on what he understood was be objective. He then sought for his own platoons & found them; later be looked for 2 hrs a his CSM (3 name) for Icha but adnt find him. He was going (as he trought) back to his line when he heard 18- pounders firing behand him & realiset that he was going towards the evenng. He decided that, as McM. edut be found, he mast repse his flank, & So strang it back poo the right of the 150t of pothole line (? from the Prtrnd of facing S.] towards te picket line. It was very much strn out. This position was handed over later to the 17 Bn.
Litsa onee bost tis way there (when ?) HN Morlancourt May 1918, 34 En. Capt Coins & L Lilia. Had a long setting with both Cais & Lelfer this with cous's measage book morning (5 May 1937) an post of as; and we thrashed out the course of events as folows. Lilja neat to patrol on the right of the BC road; but in the fighting from May 5/6 on be was on left of Btod. 415 May 1918 Lelja out No2 Patrol. They got up to german were which was pretty strong on the creet - looked for a way through it, & then lay up so close over to it that help's men (name ?) was traaslating to him what the fermans saw in their truch. They aw a ferman patrol behind ken but knew that another patrol was out so ddn't do anything. Then they heard the shot o d a fermane maftled shout as souecone put a hand over his month. Lates some fegures came out rear towards the patrol. Coopl Geork Morgan had his gin on afermay ffarswent up shelsa recoming them & was about to fire when Prosenthal. Rosen that say to he was going in wrong direction & turned.
2. Came Te Company of 34th which was but to the S5k for this stunt was tob to leave ats kit and move without it as it would be relieved at dawn (by a phe of DCoy). Actually it stayed in for 4 days if returned Eaken, 5 -1020, 1 m. 9. Prs not there, & its kit was pinched be y 12.10 am Cains worth that bot trunthe tho moneers were latt & litle were filia & a h. Gr. C. Morgan came. clued quially a my at He advance gave no troublef. But south peobpe. 1es tad fon be. no obie a los the bombed a m. & cantd gan & asst it writ for our depence. Ltt Smedley tt his men wt spluded dod Eathlarked san also rushet a p. at 15 objal & sitenced a borlyp. at sut obsic ar. At 1. sull not op. of the road the few men in Mouleselfis ECoy did not mop ap the fermans. There were prmans amony them an posts, & when these trow boubs in the early morning the ptits thought the fermans had penetrated, & withdrew to the road. Cams found Bailey lying out along 35s lais had no rations the rotd 5357. Vly beite (Deloes vasod] the road, & gave him a boitten order to giive oo picket 355a. T 34th Obpres the trench again. to. Deles wd attack Tooke and to t agueset 355 Cams repto t "etd 2d ceems in very 10 new Cote os aply at e enete bad way & wanting assistance. t he ws to with an. 4.10. Cauis gave Barley written order to retake the trech S. of rd together t hs woman who had a Lo peen team & some man cams had asked (onfinding Bailey & hopeless) if them was some officer of A Coy who knew anything about the
position S. of10ad. Decut. Norman sai that there were few fermans there and al that was neaded was a bold advance & there fermans would clear. Seeing that Bailey was not fa it a simply sat & did nothing cams, to protect hunsed gave Baitey a Batwas voom an cleazed the fermans an cleare a Gelwaus wrotten order cattack. He himself rushed & captd a G. wel out, himself org o company out B) reacupied the tine but lost it again an Note, Bleobenver saw 50ss hoppin over Bto open into Gal K19CBD. Artz, out on did good work. Lelja says that Bailey & Tosbes Strietl were getting back along the mann road and confidential, when he called. as h could not stop them he fined at I not necesirnity them with his rifle – he was apaid the correct. helja is a whole line would go if they saw the officers very busgant sperited youngely making rearwards. He shot sorbes through Even at this date) and sainte a vised pecti the foot & perhaps Bailey also - though probably bot may not. after es laps time, be weither of them know it. Bailly was waunded sure of details. before Norman Cattacket (Camst to 3th A Bailey had but line & lined along main rd in a dangerous posn. He ws wd & Worman ws going to attack. Coult 34th send them asste at dusk? Siln or serious casl for Cams right. No wd yet from 35th
& Pam Betw Athi6. 15pm. May 6. To 34 (in answer to HC) Cams septo? I am in a very No orders queer positur from 3t since yesty. Only order from 34t cawe at 6.15Pm. "Under whose commd do I cam now come ? Are We to be rels tought? wants a L.G. to replace one drabled & 30mea what anrgto for rations as none read sins last ayss & no water. I relook truc syst lost by Bailey this mgmaking my (apptly? Asksfor reply right secure t men cannot wited aw in daylight f. I know nothing of what is going on? Day's Report. to 35t 5 mp & 20 -30 priirstu - fair and of shelling - 8 cah of wayb. Abt C. 45por May6 comes Fomr Aecks 35 if still ander it or under 34. Has only Pcils of were & aire but no pickets. 6. 65 pm. He read Mems F21 (days order of 4.55 p. to Monfoies to no pickets repts to Bole that live from BCnd to 190x is O.R. Posts lired & covering the ocit. From Mec attack at 7 after 1M. barrage. cams forls from Bruce, who woe sent of to take over to 2544.3.- 49 mp inet - some sniping, but all seens going will 9rdy 17 May 12.15 am. 34 B. toan e al n a en ton He had is lined his man along B. C. 2d. & sent to Toy for wnstrug. Ar4.5am. to Meg. 34 upto S64 being to to Cai's teke Bry to post, if boat, at reig be rean. dear pat K19c78 W asks to be tob as rurly as possibl what is hesoeng presents se t)&t est. live before Cain hes 3 gnxts mounted for difence. 6 an. ape e seld thate op ple C. Coy, ws s have a go at the truck S. of rd. Corpty Bo bort al about . breakfos time. At 8.50 camns fort a apt newsors from Mominn- late he sot one fom the C.O. forty t sans effir to clear his tre as ary the truch vasgong to sell t before atach at 29a0. S o perad ther was wo hime to chas y wor ws it pas to arthoned -cd only tet men to lie as low as porsille - and them farrake parses over them. TH Bty was shooting 300 £ short. Cams reato hes at 9.50 am & asket if he ws to arry on. lest to McMinor No attack took place ate this boubot. Lilja cot have from Cains to go back along road to Try & Explain. He reached Ba H.Q. and Fry arranged that B Cox. shdattack
at 2pm. Lelia as ket that the TA barrage shd be lingtd be 300£, as it was short. Try was not convince Mckinn as observing from a tree forther back & perhaps haded it ws O but L. wait on to Mailer, the T.M.Cdx, and (thinking he himself would have to do the stront) said. How look here, dont you worry about what he (Doy) says. Ive got to do te job, & if thereo anything wrong w barrage its It will be suffe. You just put it down $300£ ahead of suppered where you did last time and that ill do me. Lilja returned to Cons and found th he wasn't to do the stunt - but Nicklin & Hubbard. is he went out abooy the road - two or three sumph holes ahead of the ling – and put a dewes Sr (Mortan) to watch the eneiy] to a L sand pon t next seugh boly and the with the -N Capt Caus observing Herring (the gas coporal) a reliabl man [he fires of No 36 wills bombs from 1 Cap attachment in direct Enfitale of the farmans fort. Cams hetd bouds and the first discharge, find just over his head, sent him backwards into the Sumph-hole. Lega & Hisbbard got in & I trech was helt Wicklin that time. from supposed to have nothing to do Cam was
S. of Bt rood. It was a with the fighting right mare of necsmanagement, he said. D Nicklin says that about 20 young fermans came up from the SE & gave themselves hts durn which up as pacsoners on the he hald the live- On the first. ing (may 6) a ferman oficer walked unknowingly staight at his font. They called to him to surrend in but he trat to get away & was shot by N.
39 Be. Morlancourt. May 5-8. 1918 39 En ti /198 On May 5/6 2 L.9. Sectus of 39 H Herbert Dredk Mihs (were estibld atend of 3925 tuatesby) whow sty aftwos gett without loss. More ps. were to be put out but heavy rain stopped it. two large fighty patrots went out & estr GS.P 78 ahead of CCoy. They gave good obse of MtS. Io shelled twe heavily & H Miles, in C. of one, wxk. Sunkin rd S of Newton T.Me. (6in) fired 100 rds on Vitle. That night 8. Sfs came over to Auxt liies & Durrendered - Sd to bonth had wfto many eass. G. Bepo. that night 2 fighty patrols each 20 Fr. onder Lt Sw. Gration & R.H. Overton seout. T0 pash thro villes est. line to of it. Lot within 100, o then heard 40 Bn patrols attg a S.F. on left. 39 held up by heavy Mif. from viluge. Col. Paterson knowing th it wod be toly to try to all ef Bl HCt he ws withdeg. Sip. ofr of 40Be (in tel. Commn) was also wefo. 39 had no cas.
helja says that he & oters foundp y the loy live up on or partlel to B1C rd, facyS. 144 Lieut. Nicklin - Morlancourt. May 4 - 10, 1918 was with cains? toy when it attacked with the 35th. N was the youngest officer & this his first stunt. N. Lost hes own plation before the start, & with his sergeant, went forward beside the B.C. road until the sgt, who was ahead, panabost onto the ferman trench. There was a ster away the fermans and the two only got back by short Eushes. Even then they could not find their plation until the barragefell when they saw them at once against the shell bursts. The barrage was good. They had no trouble in the advance - the Termans were very youg & surrendered at once, north a Proad. Nicklin and his phe were s0ydo degens in sent but to cover the when day came the Sq+ (?) saw a keund disc sticking up fom a lible hammock ahead- it looked to him like the moath of a machinegun & be asisted on going out to see. I proved to be one, & he brought it in and they set it up ready for use, but didnt have to ase it. meanwhich the trench had been deepened.
2 516 or 6/7 May. that night (as the next) Lieut. Nooman did the work of A Cay soueth of the road, bombin out the fermans, with only two or three men. He trusk was only a series of poltoles and Norman couldned hold it when he got it; but he got his MC for his. Hubbard came in, on the night of the CR7th on Bloys right, at the road. As the pothole trench hads'd been taken the order 2pon lettack, may came to attack it at LPrm Lilja, hearing that they were to attack, himself went back aloag the road (crawling along the side of it this was possible) and saw the T.M. officer and arranged for the barrage of T.M. shells. Hubbards pla was lived abong 1rd, with Nickli's next h it. Lilja & Cauis Crawled out ahead and LUAFCAIRE boarbed the fervians t Mebert H ctin with sife frenades & then the plations advanced by section rashes, as fast as they Were was lots of fire from nigs. could to the potholes. fither back and 30 4 ner were his in that swall

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2 M.C. of the 34th, who left with him the order to attack

at 11 p.m.  McMinn got the same order at 9.30.

They both told Capt. Percy that there was not time.

Held over They only had time to write to the Companies

telling them their objectives & the time of the barrage.

_______      _______ A map was sent received with the order.

D(Alpha) C(Alpha)

_______     _______ The night was intensely dark. Beaver

2plns C33  2plns C33

& his C.S.M went forward picking up one

platoon and reached an assembly positn but

there was no chance of seeing whether other

platoons were there when the barrage fell. They

advanced behind it until it stopped, when

Beaver stopped his men on what he understood

was the objective.  He then sought for his own

platoons & found them; later he looked for 2 hrs

w his CSM (?name) for McMinn but cdn't find

him.  He was going (as he thought) back to his line

when he heard 18-pounders firing behind him &

realised that he was going towards the enemy.

He decided that, as McM. cdnt be found, he

must refuse his flank, & so strung it back from

the right of the 150x of pothole line [? from the Pr trench

facing S.] towards the ^old picket line. It was very much

strung out. This position was handed over later to

the 17 Bn.

[*8 May.

9Bde rept/5.15 am.

It ws reptd tt

we had line K19A99-91

& P.at c88. Our men

seen abt K 19c85

but nothing known

of posn there.

1 of 29 Bn reptd at

K25A27.*]

 

HN

Morlancourt  May 1918. 34 Bn.

Capt Cains & Lt Lilja.

Had a long sitting with both Cains & Lilja this

morning (5 May 1937), with Cains's message book

in front of us ; and we thrashed out the course

of events as follows.

Lilja had to patrol on the right of the BC road ; but in

the fighting from May 5/6 on he was on left of BC rd.

[*Lilja once lost his
way there (when?)*]

4/5 May 1918  Lilja took out No 2 Patrol.

They got up to German wire which was

pretty strong on the crest - looked for a 

way through it, & then lay up so close

[*?*] to it that ^one of Lilja's men (name?) was

translating to him what the Germans said

in their trench.

They saw a German patrol behind them

but knew that another patrol was out,

so didn't do anything. Then they heard the

shots & sho heard a German's muffled shout as

someone put a hand over his mouth. Later

some figures came out from rear towards the

patrol.  Corpl George Morgan had his gun on

them & was about to fire when ^a German flare went up Lilja recognised Rosenthal!

recognised to Rosenthal saw he was going in / wrong direction 

& turned.

 

2.

The Cains' Company of 34th which was lent to the 35th for

this stunt was told to leave its kit and move area

without it as it would be relieved at dawn

(by a pln of D Coy).  Actually it stayed in for 4 days

& its kit was pinched before it returned.

By At 12.10 am Cains wrote that both trenches were taken, 5-10 prisoners, 1 m.g. Prs not there.

The advance gave no trouble ^Tho' Pioneers were late & little wire came.  But south

[*Lilja & a L Gr (?Morgan)
silenced quickly a mg at
1st objve. LGs fired from hip
& L & his men w a splendid dash
outflanked / gun.
At 1. ^Prs. still not up.*]
At 2nd objve also he bombed a m.g. & captd gun & used it imdly for our defence.  Sgt Smedley
also rushed a p. at 1st objve & silenced a bombg p. at 2nd objve.
of the road the few men in Moncrief's ½ Coy
did not mop up the Germans.  There were
Germans among them in posts, & when
these threw bombs in the early morning the
posts thought the Germans had penetrated, &
withdrew to the road.
Cains found Bailey lying out along
the road ^(Delves was wd.), & gave him a written order to
attack the trench again.
[*3.55a Cains had no
rations - (he reptd
to 35). & only 6 coils
of wire & no pickets.
3.55a. To 34th. Objves
tn. Delves wd.
Forbes arrd but only has abt
10 men (Forbes ws apptly
No 16 pln - to relieve him
& he ws to withdraw).*]
3.55am Cains reptd tt "rt of rd seems in very
bad way & wanting assistance."
4.10. Cains gave Bailey written order to 
retake the trench S. of rd together w Mr Norman
"who had a L.Gun team & some men".
Cains had asked (on finding Bailey &
Forbes hopeless) if there was some officer
of A Coy who knew anything about the

 

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position S. of the road.  Lieut. Norman said
that there were x few Germans there and all
that was needed was a bold advance &
these Germans would clear.  Seeing that Bailey
was not "for it" & simply sat & did nothing,
Cains, to protect himself , gave Bailey a
written order.  No man cleared the Germans Bailey was Norman cleared the Germans
out, himself orgg / c/attack.  He himself rushed & captd a G. m.g.
out, & Bailey(? & Forbes) reoccupied the line
but lost it again.
Note: At 8.30 am. Bde observer saw 50 Gs hopping over 10x of open into trench at K19c88.  Arty put on did good work.
[*Strictly
Confidential.
& not necessarily
correct.
Lilja is a
very buoyant
spirited youngster
(Even at this date) and
painted a vivid picture,
but may not, after this
lapse ^of time, be
sure of details.*]
Cains Lilja says that Bailey & Forbes
were getting back along the main road and
as he could not stop then ^when he called, he fired at
them with his rifle - he was afraid the
whole line would go if they saw the officers
making rearwards.  He shot Forbes through
the foot & perhaps Bailey also - though probably
neither of them know it.  Bailey was wounded
before Norman c/attacked. [Cains wrote to
34th tt Bailey had lost line & lined along main rd in a
dangerous posn.  He ws wd & Norman ws going to attack.
Could 34th send them asstce at dusk?  Sitn "v. serious" esply
for Cains' right.  No wd yet from 35th.

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? aftn Betw 6.15pm. & 7pm May 6.
To 34 (in answer to H 6) Cains repts : "I am in a very
queer positn "No ords. No orders from 35 since yesty.  Only order from 34th
came at 6.15pm. "Under whose commnd do I come now come?  Are
we to be reld tonight?"  Wants a L.G. to replace one disabled & 20 mags
What arrgts for rations as none recd since last night & no water.
"I retook trench system lost by Bailey this mg, making my
right secure. x Men cannot withdraw in daylight. ^(apptly. Asks for reply) ... I
know nothing of what is going on".
May 6
Cains' (abt 6.45 pm. May 6)
Day's Report. to 35th 5 mgs & 20 - 30 prisrs tn - fair amt of shelling - 8 coils of
wire but no pickets.
7pm. Asks 35 if still under it or under 34.  Has only 8 coils of wire &
no pickets.
6.45pm. He recd Memo F21 (Frys order of 4.55 p. to Monfries to
attack at 7 after T.M. barrage.
9 Bde
ms/[7 May 12.15 am. 34 Bn repts to Bde that line from BC rd to 19 [shorthand] is "O.k."  Posts lined & covering tps out.  From 19 [shorthand]
to 25A 4.8. - 4 G. mgs met - some sniping, but all seems going well]
[*At 4.5 am.
34 repts steps
being tn to
clear p. at
K19c78, (wh
prevented trench
being tn.) & to
est. line before
6 a.m.
"Night has bn
pitch black" says 4 Bde.*]
7th May.  Cains finds from Lt Bruce, who ws sent up to take over,
tt there is no one S. of B.C. road to take over from.
He had ∴ lined his men along B.C. rd. & sent to Fry for instrns.
Cains tells Fry tt postn, if lost, cd easily be retn.
Asks to be told as early as possible what is happening
Cain has 3 G. m.guns mounted for defence.
Apptly C. Coy ^(? or pt of B)or both) ws to have a go at the trench S. of rd
at about 8 30 breakfast time.  At 8.50 Cains got a
message from McMinn - Later he got one from the C.O. (probly to same effect)
message to clear his trench (.x that S of rd) as arty
was going to shell, it before attack at ?9 a.m., There any the trench
S. of B/C. road There was no time to clear trench nor ws it poss. to withdraw
- cd only tell men to lie as low as possible - and then
barrage passed over them.  TM Bty was shooting 300x short.
Cains reptd this ^last to McMinn at 9.50 am & asked if he ws to carry on.
No attack took place after this bombdt.  Lilja got
leave from Cains to go back along road to Fry & explain.
He reached Bn H.Q. and Fry arranged that B Coy shd attack

 

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at 2 p.m.  Lilja asked that the T.M. barrage shd be lengthend
by 300x, as it was short.  Fry was not convinced,
- McMinn ws observing from a tree further back & perhaps had sd it ws O.K. -
but L. went on to Mailer, the T.M. Cdr, and
(thinking he himself would have to do the stunt)
said, "Now look here, dont you worry about what
"he (Fry) says.  I've got to do the job, & if there's
"anything wrong w / barrage it's I tt will be
"suffer suffered.  You just put it down 300x ahead of
"where you did last time and that'll do me".
Lilja returned to Cains and found tt he
wasn't to do the stunt - but Nicklin & Hubbard.
So he went out along the road - two or three
sumph holes ahead of the line - and put ^his Lewis
Gr (Morgan) to watch the enemy w a L. Gun,
from / next sumph hole, and then with Pte
Herring (the gas Corporal) a reliable man ^ - & Capt Cains observing - he fired
off No 36 Mills bombs from / cap attachment in direct
enfilade of the Germans front.  Cains hated bombs,
and the first discharge, fired just over his head,
sent him backwards into the sumph-hole.
Lilja Nicklin & Hubbard got in & / trench was held
from that time.
Cain was supposed to have nothing to do

 

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with the fighting S. of B/C road.  It was a
night mare of mismanagement, he said.
Lt Nicklin says that about 20 young
Germans came up from the SE & gave themselves
up as prisoners on the morning of the nights during which
he held the line.
On the first mg (May 6) a German
officer walked unknowingly straight on to up to his
front.  They called to him to surrender but
he tried to get away & was shot by N.

 

H.N.
39 Bn. Morlancourt. May 5-8. 1918.
39 Bn [?]/198
On May 5/6  2 L.G. Sectns of 39th ^were establd ahead of 39th's trenches by under Lt Herbert
Fredk Miles whose
pty aftwds retd without loss.
6/7  More ps. were to be put out but heavy rain
stopped it.
7/8.  Two large fightg patrols went out & estd 4 S.Ps.
ahead of C Coy.  They gave good obsn of Ml S.
Gs shelled them heavily & Lt Miles, in c. of one,
ws k.
8.  Newton T.Ms. (6 in) fired 100 rds on ^Sunken rd S of Ville.  That night
3 Gs came over to Aust lines & surrendered - sd tt bombt
had infld many cas s.
9.30 p.m. that night 2 fightg patrols, each 20 str. under
Lts SW. Gration & R.H. Overton sent out. To
push thro Village est. line E of it.  Got within 100x, &
then heard 40 Bn patrols attg a S.P. on left.
39 held up by heavy m.g. from village.  Col. Paterson
knowing tt it wd be folly to try to att. infd Bde H.Q. tt he
ws withdrg . Sig. Offr of 40 Bn (in tel. Commn) was also infd.
39 had no Cas.

 

H.N.
Lieut Nicklin - Morlancourt.  May 4 - 10, 1918
Was with Cains' Coy when it attacked
with the 35th.  N. was the youngest officer & this his first stunt.
N. lost his own platoon before the start, &,
with his Sergeant, went forward beside the B.C.
[*Lilja says that he
& others found pt of
the Coy line up on
or parallel to B/C
rd, facing S.*]
road until the Sgt, who was ahead, ran almost
into the German trench.  There was a stir among
the Germans and the two only got back by short
rushes.  Even then they could not find their platoon
until the barrage fell when they saw them at once
against the shell bursts.  The barrage was good.
They had no trouble in the advance - the
Germans were very young & surrendered at
once, north o / road.  Nicklin and his pln were
sent ^50 yds out to cover the xxxxxxxxxx digging in
When day came the Sgt (?) saw a round
disc sticking up from a little hammock ahead.
it looked to him like the mouth of a machinegun
& he insisted on going out to see.  It proved to
be one, & he brought it in and they set it up
ready for use, but didn't have to use it.
Meanwhile the trench had been deepened.

 

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5/6 or 6/7 May.
LNxx  That night (or the next) Lieut. Norman did the
work of A Coy South of the road, bombing out the
Germans, with only two or three men.  The trench
was only a series of potholes and Norman
couldn't hold it when he got it; but he got his
M.C. for this.
Hubbard came in, on the night of the
6th/7th on B Coy's right, at the road.  As
the pothole trench hadn't been taken the order
came to attack it at 2p.m. Lt. Lilja, hearing
that they were to attack, himself went back
along the road (crawling along the side of it
this was possible) and saw the T.M. officer and
arranged for the barrage of T.M. shells.  Hubbard's
pln was lined along / rd, with Nicklin's next to it.
Diagram - see original document
Lilja & Cains crawled
out ahead and
bombed the Germans
with rifle grenades
& then the platoons
advanced by section
rushes, as fast as they
could to the potholes.  There was lots of fire from m.gs.
further back and 3 or 4 men were hit in that small

 


 


 

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