Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/275/1 - 1918 - 1938 - Part 17

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First World War, 1914–18
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smae & dust it all heepsd to key everybody up for the finae dast Your last farat was masly an ncident. I trust that the forysin mests with your desired If there is anythen clse you wish for please let me know. Yours my trul Jorat R.H.C. 158 Buston St. Nortl Adelare
Copy of letter received from Officer. In the Field July 15th 1918. Dear Mr Linion Ore this you will have received the official notification of the death of your son 7843. Private S Pinion, of this Battalion. Now we are out for a rest, it is possible to write you + I desire to tell you how your dear lad died + how his mater feel for you in your sad loss. On July 4th at 3 o'clock in the morning, the ductralians attacked the enemy + captured Hamel Village + the Wood beyond this. We took a leading part in the operation + your son was with us. He was killed whilst bravely advancing to the assault & died instantly suffering no pain. Next day we gathered our dear dead and buried them on the slope under Vaire Wood, our chaplain conducting the short service. We have placed a Cross over each Grave. Though your boy was only with us a short time, he had proved himself to be a good soldier + Comrade, + was liked & respected by all. Please accept the sincere sympathy of his commanding Officer & Comrades in your sad loss. May God comfort you. Yourstruly (Signed) Bart Sampson F Spinion. Mafor 50t O/ B Coy 4/18 15th Batt Anstalian Imperial Force
Hhe ay higlar suldcepn p drystie type n finfo kn cacling wn coue in ton consominnos a M t an MOM M S or deror of n ohrcan pable AN sd S From Col. Hundekoper's Hist of 33 Am. Div Am yo reache of co 151. 132 laf. June 13- 124 o Rant asshe I longes Con if co particinets in Hamebaction 8A5B BSE 4 lo (2 of 11 92413 Mosois pooss- Sir Comundr broooz eAd SE 4 E OTURLE S SSID tredI allotted ToverFe pTSO was may gaifeo well -owphe t bad b of folls tis to take part wd be 8 10 FO? Aikitd eds at Aust batther 131514243 (entoottont 3am 1 1 ac. bloy snd bo on Jue 30 rest of 142Bus 15 Fot o 4F11 Bd Read at tho Bawly to te an e at and t y o e but Rauly replis 3. 100m a Rack a ons nd phase l ee 41.143 lst time amd conporeled i Bti m taple. 11 adeged avetiali commend: ciery, btabit o Kegre sood PXO
TELEPHONE NOS. TELEGRAPHIC AD LESS COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA. AUSWARMUSE F2587. F 2398. CONMUNICATIONS TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE DIRECTOR.N AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL. Tey Eae KS. TSS, PA, T DSKe F SeS POST OFFICE BOX LIAD. IN RAPLY PLRASE OUOTE received a praise which never ages and a tomb most glorious—not so much the tomb in EXHIBITION BUILDINGS, MELBOURNE. N0.- which they lie, but that in which their fame on survives, to be remembered for ever when occasion comes for word or deed.... c/o Federal Capital Commission, CANBERRA. F.C.T. 10th March, 1928. Dear Mr. Bean, It is doubtless your intention at the meeting of the Finance Conmittee on the 12th March to make some appreciative reference to the services General Griffiths has rendered during the time he has been acting as Director. I took the liberty of including a minute of this nature in the record of the Board meeting of the 23rd February. It would, however be a fitting act on the part of the Finance Committee, which is brought more closely in touch with the administration of the Memarial than the Board, also to pay its tribute. Yours sincerely, D comment by 15 alld to b C/o.I ficently but were rather Li On behaviour of aus. al Hawel betaesmag too alose to Charnge are lous to from Huidepoper let diubt t Mr. C.E.W. Bean, poind all guabld c/o Australian War Memorial, WISOUR n tomake first vate Fighlag
HRe. THE STORY OF THE BATTLE OF HAMEL JULY 4th, 1918. On reading our history so well compiled by Vivian Brahms, our minds reffect back to incidents that we were engaged in and perhaps not so fully described as we saw them, for after all Vivian has related cold facts from in- telligence reports for record purposes and it was for this reason the history was written. At a meeting of some of our comrades recently I en- larged a little on a phase that I trusted would be the fore- runner of discussions at gatherings from time to time. My idea being that every member of the Battalion was not present at every engagement, but those who were not present could be informed, by those who were, of something of the events with which other operations were so closely allied. My remarks referred to the Battle of Hamel on the fourth July, 1918, and at the request of those present, I was asked to try to put on paper what I said. I do so with pleasure, but ask forgiveness for any errors or omissions as I am obliged to trust to memory. It is no doubt appreciated that once you start on a sub- ject you could go on writing, but I trust this is something of interest that will cause discussion and refresh our memories regarding the incident and achievement of our comrades. (Signed) E. J. DIBDIN Towards the end of June, while occupying the line at Willers Bretonneux, instructions were issued that we were to be engaged in an offensive action at Hamel and our sector was actually allotted. From there, reconnaissance parties consisting of an officer, an N.C.O. and one other rank from each company went to the new area each night. About 25th June we left Villers Bretonneux and marched to Allonville Wood, behind Amiens, to do some training and it was here we were told what was required of us.
Firstly, one brigade from each 2nd, 3rd and 4th Divi- sions under the leadership of General McLagan were to straighten the line from the Somme to the South of Hamel; the 42nd Battalion sector being from the Somme to Hamel but not including Hamel (the 43rd Battalion on our right took Hamel). That we were to be assisted by tanks and were to take six platoons and Battalion Headquarters of 131st American Battalion with us for training and experi- ence. Our Company Commanders were Captains Warry (A), Trudgian (B), Jack (C), O’'Bryen (D) and to accom- modate the six American platoons we had to reduce our organisation from 16 platoons to 10; so A and D Companys made 3 platoons each while B and C had 2 platoons each. and with this organisation we marched to the Tank Train- ing area about 6 miles away and with Tanks rehearsed our offensive action. Difficulty was experienced in actually communicating with the Tanks as it was impossible to make the Tank Corps personnel hear any noise even when sitting on the rear part of the tank. Getting back to Allon- ville Wood we received 4 American platoons only so that B and C Companys had each to increase their platoons to 3. Meantime, Jules Tardent in his reconnaissance dis- covered a house practically on the bank of the Somme in No Man’s Land which would afford an excellent observa- tion post. With this idea in mind he sought the signalling officer's (Patterson) assistance in connecting the position with telephone back to Advanced Battalion Headquarters, but they had difficulty in getting sufficient telephone wire for the occasion. Q.M. Captain Anderson could not get any from Ordnance and it looked as if the enterprise would be a wash out. It so happened that our Commander, General McLagan, had a conference of Battalion Commanders at Sailly le Sec to make sure everybody was familiar with re- guirements and he asked if we were having any trouble. The wire shortage was mentioned of course. Later we very kindly received a waggon load of barb wire. No doubt somebody got mixed up with Consolidation and Com- munication. This, however, did not prevent the enter- prise, for telephone wire was eventually obtained from somewhere and the information was obtained and sent back with much confidence. Just before leaving Allonville Wood two more Ameri- can platoons arrived, so again B and C Companys had to do some adjusting to fit in an extra platoon each; this hap- pened on the morning of 3154 July, which day we remem-
bered because of the visit of our then Prime Minister, the Right Hon. W. M. Hughes, and Sir Joseph Cook, who visited us just prior to the start of our approach march. We left the wood at one o’'clock in single file passing through Daours, Corbie, proceeding along the bank of the Somme, resting in the trenches till time to get on the assembly lines—in No Man's Land. While actually in No Man's Land a very definite order was received that only four platoons of the American Battalion was to be com- mitted, this was annoying to say the least, so once again B and C Companys had to send out the extra platoons much to the disgust of the Americans themselves. Lieutenant Boorman at the Transport lines had to gather spare troops and form a platoon and get on to the assembly before zero. As an expression of confidence in the operation and lack of fear in meeting the Germans, many of those on the assembly tapes calmly rolled a cigarette and when the bar- rage came down, lighted their cigarettes and they were The forward move was helped by a fog ready for Fritz. and the tanks a little, but the real success was due to sur- prise. The whole business was practically over in an hour with very few casualties. If my memory is correct, think we had only nine casualties in the actual advance. Others occurred later in the day, when Fritz appeared to get annoyed. While prisoners were coming back, some Americans in the Support Companys started shooting the poor wretches, remarking they had come five thousand miles to this god- dam’ shooting gallery, but of course this was soon stopped. Having reached our objective, the Support Companys had instructions to consolidate and get a trench system dug as soon as possible. The German prisoners were used for this purpose much to the delight of the members of the Bat- talion but not so to higher command. Our own planes took a photograph of the position, showing the Field Grey uni- form working very hard and Hew back to Corps H.G. to re- port that the Germans had counter attacked and were con- solidating on that line. This caused frantic telephone mes- sages and we were obliged to send the prisoners back. After it was all over we were told that we had started something that could become a common practice in future. —E.J.D.
Captain C. E.W. Bean New York Times,w October 23, 1927 ONER ITAA 280 BMREAANYGR AUSTRALLAN OFFICER TELLS ABOUT. THE FIGHT AT HAMEL Only Four Companies of Americans Engaged, He But Their Conduct Under Declares, Fire Was Splendid To the Edor of The New Vork Times; Hrst week in Juty, and after consid As a staff officer of the Fourth eration it was decided that as we Australlan Division, the British di- had American soldiers with us we vision referred to in THE TTEs ar would make the attack on the early Ucle on the Battle of Hamel, I sub- morning of the Fourth of July. mit the following facts, which are General Monash, commanding the taken from official documents: Australian force, received from Gen In the first place, I want to point eral Rawlinson, commanding the out that General George Bell Ir., Fourth British Army, approval to who commanded the American troops employ about 2,000 men of the Thir- attached to the Australlans in the ty-third American Division in the Battle of Hamel, was himself under operation., On. July 1 General Raw. the direct command of the Australlan linson gave orders to withdraw 1,000 commander, and General Bell did not Americans from the operation, leav- disregard an unseemly order at a ing four companies in., For some critical moment. There was no reason American Headquarters were question at any time of a disaster not very anxious to have their in- to the Australlan troops and it was fantry take part in this attack, prob absolntely impossible for the Battle ably on account of the fact that they of Hamel to be anything but the suc would be under British command cess it was. which was contrary to, American mc Brigaded for Training. Army Headquarters policy, and in the middle, of the afternoon on July The only reason that the American troops were included in the battle 8 General Rawlinson telephoned Aus- was that they were at the time bri trallan Headquarters that no Ameri- saded for training purposes with the can troops were to be used. The Fourth Australian Division, and as Australian commander, who had al- very few of them took part in the ready made his dispositions and action, which was a walkover, their placed the American troops in the presence certainly did not prevent a line, pointed out the great difficulty of withdrawing the Americans and disaster. THS TMsS article states that after replacing them at this late hour, and the battle King George V went to realized the feeling that would be France and decorated General Bell caused between the British and and that his visit may have been American troops by the withdrawal brought about at the request of Earl of the latter. He took a firm stand Haig. King George did not go to and strongly pressed his views, France until some weeks after the which were conveyed to the British Commander in- Chief,, who save in- battle and then passed quick) structions that four companies of through our divisional ares, probably Americans were to be left in and he decorating General Bell at the time I do not remember—but his visit was was to go ahead as planned. It would be putting it lightly to certainly not brought about in the say that the American soldiers whe way suggested. British sovereigns withdrew were disgusted. I talked are not in the habit of asking Par- with many of them the evening be lament, as they have to, for permis fore the attack, and they left no alon to leave their country to go to doubt in my mind as to what the a foreign country for the purpose of saving an officer from being dis thought about the whole procedure An amusing side to the incident oc ciplined. curred during the evening while re- The article would lead one to be leve that the attack was mainly car- turning from the tank line to our headquarters. I passed two groups ried out by the American infantry whereas there were in the action six- of American infantrymen changing uniforms with the Australlans. I ty-four companies of Australlans and spoke to the men about it, and the four companies of Americans, the Australlans said that they had no Americans being scattered among the Australlans in platoons, under desire to go into the show, but the Americans wanted to, so they their own platoon commanders, but under Australian battalion command thought the easiest way to do it was to exchange uniforms. I have no ers. There was never any question doubt at all that this occurred in a of dropping the attack, for, had the American companies been with- great number of instances. The doughboys, green to action, drawn, the Australlans would have gone on just the same and the at were splendid, and their conduct un- der fire quickly endeared them to tack would have been just as suc the Australlan infantry, with whom cesstul they later fought on the Hindenburg Reason for Attack. Line. The reason for the attack on These are the facts from official Hamel by the Australlans was for sources and by one who helped to the purpose of straightening and formulate the plans, and I relterate shortening the British line and deep that I print them not to disparage ening our forward defehsive zone, al the American soldier but rather to the same time improving our jump give light to a misstatement and ing-off position for future operations. fairness to my own comrades It was found that the operation B. HUBERT COOPER. could not take place earller than the Philadelphia, Pa., Oct. 18, 1927.
Tre Americans a H.N. Havill. (4 Mg Coy G.H. Noton (7 Dec 193) The Americans with the 4ter M.C. Coy were aseless. Their offe got into barrage at I start & ws knocked, which probly saved houble. Their wen, who were supposed to be carrying shovels, drappet them on way over, & on arrival at I obive where they were under nosty fine from 77's they stood, bunching, with notiig to do. Noton had his revolver holster smasher by a Shrapael pellet, & felt the situation ratien keenly. He het to p 200£ to same other toops for a shooll. Hey scrab Nolon says deferitily that thee Americans were not the as usefl as the lotalons had first, solistien beent They seemed to have no notion as to what was the right theng to do although personally. they were pod enough fellows. They al spoke English - there were no peeks or newly nationalised foreigoers in this bot 166
A0S7 SPECLAL CRDER CF THE DAY. 000w0000000000000 On boing ordered to ro-assumo Command of tho 16th Battalion, it is with very great rogret that I have so soon to sover my connection with the 8th Battalion after such a brief period of Command. Tho time, though short, has been full of incident, and I am extremely proud of having had the honour of commanding a Battalion with so fine a rocord as that which you hold. That this Battalion is facilo princeps’ in the record which you gainod at the Hamol Offonsivo, no one can question, and it is to your overlasting crodit, that such a fine Corps as the Australians have boon won over to admire and respect the Tank Corps as a whole. In saying Good-byo I Wish to thank all ranks for their loyalty behind the linc, and their gallantry in front of it. I wish you all the best of luck in the future, and shall follow your fortunes with a very real intcrost. ingham Lieut Colonel, 26th August 1918. Commanding Sth TALE BATTALICN.

3.

smoke & dust is all
helped to keep everybody
up for the final dash
Your last para was
merely an incident.
I trust that the foregoing
meets with your desires.-
If there is anything else
you wish for please let
me know.
Yours very truly
R.A. Caroway


158 Buston Av. 
North Adelaide
 

 

Copy of letter received from Officer.
[*Hamel*]

In the Field
July 15th 1918.
Dear Mrs Pinion
Ere this you will have received the
official notification of the death of your son 2/843.
Private S Pinion, of this Battalion. Now we are out
for a rest, it is possible to write you & I desire to tell
you how your dear lad died & how his mates feel for
you in your sad loss.
On July 4th at 3 o'clock in the morning, the
Australians attacked the enemy & captured Hamel
Village & the Wood beyond this. We took a leading
part in the operation & your Son was with us. He
was killed whilst bravely advancing to the assault,
& died instantly suffering no pain. Next day we
gathered our dear dead and buried them on the slope
under Vaire Wood, our chaplain conducting the short
service. We have placed a Cross over each Grave. Though
your boy was only with us a short time, he had proved
himself to be a good soldier & Comrade, & was liked & respected
by all. Please accept the sincere sympathy of his
commanding Officer & Comrades in your sad loss. May
God comfort you.
Yours truly
(Signed) Bart Sampson
Major
o/c "B" Coy

15th Battn

Australian Imperial Force

[*Pte S Pinion

15th Bn

Killed in action

4/7/18

at the age of 20yrs 7 months

He had arrived in Aust.

June 1914*]  

 

The Australian soldier was a distinctive type. Much

[much information concerning him exists in / minds of our

American public.

From Col. Huidikoper's Hist of 33 Am. Div.
33 Am Div reached F end of May
131. 132 Inf. June 13- July 4
Rawl asked II Corps  Cmmdr if cd participate in Hamel action

4 Coys ( 2 of 131 & 2 of 132) Illinois Troops - Div Commndr

was Maj Gen Leo Bell - ^ allotted one pty to each Coy of follg

Aust Battalion 13, xx,  15, 42, 43 (ie ^x  Tps to take part wd be 1000 Aust & 3  Aust Bdes)

on June 30 rest of 1 & 2 Bns 131 ^ ( 6 Coys) sent to

4 & 11 Bdes. 

Read asked Rawly to withdraw these on

eve of July 2. On July 3 Haig ordered all out

But Rawly replies imp if objve not to be aband?

3.10am attack

4.10am 2nd phase objve reached at 5am

41.1431 cc

1st time Ams cooperated with tps of BEF in way by battle

Alleged Australians comment:

" Theyre good soldiers but a bit rough" 
P.T.O. 

 

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"They gave their lives. For that public gift they

received the praise which never ages and a

tomb most glorious- not so much the tomb in

which they lie, but that in which their fame

survives, to be remembered for ever when occasion

comes for word or deed. . . . ." 

c/o Federal Capital Commission,
CANBERRA. F.C.T.
10th March, 1928.

Dear Mr. Bean,
It is doubtless your intention at the meeting
of the Finance Committee on the 12th March to make some
appreciative reference to the services General Griffiths has
rendered during the time he has been acting as Director. I took
the liberty of including a minute of this nature in the record
of the Board meeting of the 23rd February. It would, however
be a fitting act on the part of the Finance Committee, which is
brought more closely in touch with the administration of the
Memorial than the Board, also to pay its tribute.
Yours sincerely,
J L Treloar

[*Comment by

C/O 15th

on behavior 

of Aust. at Hamel

(from Huidikoper) *]

[*The Australians alld to us.....

behaved magnificently, but were rather

anxious to get too close to / barrage.....

There is not the slightest doubt they

possess all qualities

required to make first rate

fighting types

Mr. C.E.W. Bean,
c/o Australian War Memorial,
MELBOURNE
 

 

[*H.N.*]

THE STORY OF THE
BATTLE OF HAMEL
JULY 4th, 1918.
On reading our history so well compiled by Vivian
Brahms, our minds reflect back to incidents that we were
engaged in and perhaps not so fully described as we saw
them, for after all Vivian has related cold facts from intelligence 
reports for record purposes and it was for this
reason the history was written.
At a meeting of some of our comrades recently I 

enlarged a little on a phase that I trusted would be the forerunner 
of discussions at gatherings from time to time. My
idea being that every member of the Battalion was not
present at every engagement, but those who were not
present could be informed, by those who were, of something
of the events with which other operations were so closely
allied. My remarks referred to the Battle of Hamel on the
fourth July, 1918, and at the request of those present, I
was asked to try to put on paper what I said. I do so with
pleasure, but ask forgiveness for any errors or omissions as
I am obliged to trust to memory.
It is no doubt appreciated that once you start on a subject
you could go on writing, but I trust this is something
of interest that will cause discussion and refresh our
memories regarding the incident and achievement of our
comrades.
(Signed) E. J. DIBDIN

Towards the end of June, while occupying the line at
Willers Bretonneux, instructions were issued that we were
to be engaged in an offensive action at Hamel and our
sector was actually allotted. From there, reconnaissance
parties consisting of an officer, an N.C.O. and one other
rank from each company went to the new area each night.
About 25th June we left Villers Bretonneux and marched
to Allonville Wood, behind Amiens, to do some training and
it was here we were told what was required of us.
 

 

Firstly, one brigade from each 2nd, 3rd and 4th Divisions 
under the leadership of General McLagan were to
straighten the line from the Somme to the South of Hamel;
the 42nd Battalion sector being from the Somme to Hamel
but not including Hamel (the 43rd Battalion on our right
took Hamel). That we were to be assisted by tanks and
were to take six platoons and Battalion Headquarters of
131st American Battalion with us for training and experience. 
Our Company Commanders were Captains Warry
(A), Trudgian (B), Jack (C), O’'Bryen (D) and to accommodate 
the six American platoons we had to reduce our
organisation from 16 platoons to 10; so A and D Companys
made 3 platoons each while B and C had 2 platoons each,
and with this organisation we marched to the Tank Training 
area about 6 miles away and with Tanks rehearsed our
offensive action. Difficulty was experienced in actually
communicating with the Tanks as it was impossible to
make the Tank Corps personnel hear any noise even when
sitting on the rear part of the tank. Getting back to Allonville 
Wood we received 4 American platoons only so that B
and C Companys had each to increase their platoons to 3.
Meantime, Jules Tardent in his reconnaissance discovered 
a house practically on the bank of the Somme in
No Man’s Land which would afford an excellent 

observation post. With this idea in mind he sought the signalling
officer's (Patterson) assistance in connecting the position
with telephone back to Advanced Battalion Headquarters,
but they had difficulty in getting sufficient telephone wire
for the occasion. Q.M. Captain Anderson could not get any
from Ordnance and it looked as if the enterprise would be
a wash out. It so happened that our Commander, General
McLagan, had a conference of Battalion Commanders at
Sailly le Sec to make sure everybody was familiar with 

requirements and he asked if we were having any trouble.
The wire shortage was mentioned of course. Later we very
kindly received a waggon load of barb wire. No doubt
somebody got mixed up with "Consolidation" and "Communication". 
This, however, did not prevent the enterprise, 
for telephone wire was eventually obtained from
somewhere and the information was obtained and sent back
with much confidence.
Just before leaving Allonville Wood two more American 
platoons arrived, so again B and C Companys had to do
some adjusting to fit in an extra platoon each; this happened 
on the morning of 31strd July, which day we  remembered

 

because of the visit of our then Prime Minister, the
Right Hon. W. M. Hughes, and Sir Joseph Cook, who
visited us just prior to the start of our approach march.
We left the wood at one o’clock in single file passing
through Daours, Corbie, proceeding along the bank of the
Somme, resting in the trenches till time to get on the
assembly lines—in No Man's Land. While actually in No
Man's Land a very definite order was received that only
four platoons of the American Battalion was to be committed, 
this was annoying to say the least, so once again B
and C Companys had to send out the extra platoons much
to the disgust of the Americans themselves.
Lieutenant Boorman at the Transport lines had to
gather spare troops and form a platoon and get on to the
assembly before zero.
As an expression of confidence in the operation and
lack of fear in meeting the Germans, many of those on the
assembly tapes calmly rolled a cigarette and when the barrage 
came down, lighted their cigarettes and they were
ready for "Fritz." The forward move was helped by a fog
and the tanks a little, but the real success was due to surprise. 
The whole business was practically over in an hour
with very few casualties. If my memory is correct, I
think we had only nine casualties in the actual advance.
Others occurred later in the day, when Fritz appeared to
get annoyed.
While prisoners were coming back, some Americans in
the Support Companys started shooting the poor wretches,
remarking they had come five thousand miles to this "goddam" 
shooting gallery, but of course this was soon stopped.
Having reached our objective, the Support Companys had
instructions to consolidate and get a trench system dug as
soon as possible. The German prisoners were used for this
purpose much to the delight of the members of the Battalion 
but not so to higher command. Our own planes took
a photograph of the position, showing the Field Grey uniform 
working very hard and Hew back to Corps H.G. to report 
that the Germans had counter attacked and were consolidating 
on that line. This caused frantic telephone messages 
and we were obliged to send the prisoners back.
After it was all over we were told that we had started
something that could become a common practice in future.
—E.J.D.
 

 


"New York Times,"
October 23, 1927

[*Captain C. E.W. Bean

REFERRED FOR INFORMATION FROM

THE OFFICE OF THE

COMMISSIONER FOR AUSTRALIA IN U.S.A.

56 BROADWAY, NEW YORK.*]

AUSTRALIAN OFFICER TELLS
ABOUT THE FIGHT AT HAMEL
Only Four Companies of Americans Engaged, He
Declares, But Their Conduct Under
Fire Was Splendid

To the Editor of The New York Times;
As a staff officer of the Fourth
Australian Division, the British 

division referred to in THE TIMES article 
on the Battle of Hamel, I submit 
the following facts, which are
taken from official documents:
In the first place, I want to point
out that General George Bell Jr.,
who commanded the American troops
attached to the Australians in the
Battle of Hamel, was himself under
the direct command of the Australian
commander, and General Bell did not
"disregard an unseemly order at a
critical moment." There was no
question at any time of a disaster
to the Australian troops and it was
absolutely impossible for the Battle
of Hamel to be anything but the success 
it was.
Brigaded for Training.
The only reason that the American
troops were included in the battle
was that they were at the time brigaded 
for training purposes with the
Fourth Australian Division, and as
very few of them took part in the
action, which was a walkover, their
presence certainly did not prevent a
disaster.
THE TIMES article states that after
the battle King George V went to
France and decorated General Bell
and that his visit may have been
brought about at the request of Earl
Haig. King George did not go to
France until some weeks after the
battle and then passed quickly
through our divisional area, probably
decorating General Bell at the time-
I do not remember—but his visit was
certainly not brought about in the
way suggested. British sovereigns
are not in the habit of asking Parliament, 
as they have to, for permission 
to leave their country to go to
a foreign country for the purpose of
saving an officer from being disciplined.
The article would lead one to believe 
that the attack was mainly carried 
out by the American infantry
whereas there were in the action sixty-four
companies of Australians and
four companies of Americans, the
Americans being scattered among
the Australians in platoons, under
their own platoon commanders, but
under Australian battalion commanders.

There was never any question
of dropping the attack, for, had the
American companies been withdrawn, 
the Australians would have
gone on just the same and the attack 
would have been just as successful.
Reason for Attack.
The reason for the attack on
Hamel by the Australians was for
the purpose of straightening and
shortening the British line and deepening 
our forward defensive zone, at
the same time improving our jumping-off 
position for future operations.
It was found that the operation
could not take place earlier than the

first week of July, and after consideration

it was decided that as we

had American soldiers we

would make the attack on the early

morning of the Fourth of July.

General Monash, commanding the

Australian force, received from General

Rawlinson, commanding the

Fourth British Army, approval to 

employ about 2,000 men of the Thirty-third 
American Division in the

operation. On July 1 General Rawlinson

gave orders to withdraw 1,000

Americans from the operation, leaving

four companies in. For some

reason American Headquarters were

not very anxious to have their infantry

take part in this attack, probably

on account of the fact that they

would be under British command,

which was contrary to American

Army Headquarters policy, and in

the middle of the afternoon on July 
3 General Rawlinson telephoned Australian

Headquarters that no American

troops were to be used. The

Australian commander, who had already 

made his dispositions and 

placed the American troops in the

line, pointed out the great difficulty

of withdrawing the Americans and 

replacing them at this late hour, and

realized the feeling that would be

caused between the British and

American troops by the withdrawal

of the latter. He took a firm stand

and strongly pressed his views,

which were conveyed to the British

Commander-in-Chief, who gave instructions 
that four companies of

Americans were to be left in and he

was to go ahead as planned.

It would be putting it lightly to 

say that the American soldiers who 

withdrew were disgusted. I talked

with many of them the evening before

the attack, and they left no

doubt in my mind as to what they

thought about the whole procedure.

An amusing aside to the incident occurred

during the evening while returning

from the tank line to our

headquarters. I passed two groups

of American infantrymen changing

uniforms with the Australians. I 

spoke to the men about it, and the

Australians said they have no

desire to go into the show, but the 

Americans wanted to, so they

thought the easiest way to do it was

to exchange uniforms. I have no 

doubt at all that this occurred in a

great number of instances.

The doughboys, green to action, 

were splendid, and their conduct under

fire quickly endeared them to

the Australian infantry, with whom 

they later fought on the Hindenburg 

line.

These are the facts from official

sources and by one who helped to

formulate the plans, and I reiterate

that I print them not to disparage 

the American soldier but rather to 

give light to a misstatement and

fairness to my own comrades.

B. HUBERT  COOPER

Philadelphia, Pa., Oct. 18, 1927
 

 

[*H. N.*]
The Americans at
Hamel
G.H. Noton. ^(4 Mg Coy) (7 Dec 1931)
The Americans with the 4th
M.G. Coy were useless. Their offr got
into ^ our barrage at / start & ws
knocked, which probly saved trouble.
Their men, who were supposed to be
carrying shovels, dropped them on /
way over, & on arrival at / objve
where they were under nasty fire
from trench's they stood, bunching, with
nothing to do. Noton had his revolver
holster smasher by a shrapnel
pellet, & felt the situation rather
keenly. He had to go  200x to
some other troops for a shovel.
Hey scrab Noton says definitely
that these Americans were not there
as useful as the Australians had
been at the beginning of the  first enlistment. They
seemed to have no notion as to
what was the right thing to do
although personally they were good
enough fellows. They all spoke
English - there were no Greeks or
newly nationalised foreigners in this
lot.

 

 
 

 

SPECIAL ORDER OF THE DAY.
On being ordered to re-assume Command of
the 16th Battalion,it is with very great regret that I have so
soon to sever my connection with the 8th Battalion after such
a brief period of Command.
The time, though short, has been full of incident,
and I am extremely proud of having had the honour of commanding
a Battalion with so fine a record as that which you hold.
That this Battalion is "facile princeps’ in
the record which you gained at the Hamel Offensive, no one can
question, and it is to your everlasting credit, that such a fine
Corps as the Australians have been won over to admire and
respect the Tank Corps as a whole.
In saying Good-bye I Wish to thank all ranks
for their loyalty behind the line, and their gallantry in front
of it.
I wish you all the best of luck in the future,
and shall follow your fortunes with a very real interest.
CB Bingham
Lieut Colonel,
26th August 1918.
Commanding 8th TANK BATTALION. 

 
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