Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/275/1 - 1918 - 1938 - Part 1

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First World War, 1914–18
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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of C E W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606/27517 Title: Folder, 1978 - 7938 Covers the tighting in May-June 1978 and includes notes by Bean and F MCuttack, letters to Reveille’ and A W Bazley and references to Sgt W E Brown VC, Capt A C Borella VC and Sgt TLAXford VC. AWMSS-3DRI606/2751
anened hadt ed Frnae tneg Drde pe S emmman heormn hemn on thn 135E7 DIARLES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so — but it does not follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discevered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the erents. Theisgngfept, falsify, of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war slotles at rothers) wtsEMprest upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipohi canpH SSOWRAHanding that second hand evidence herein should be read with this in those who passed on such stories usually themselves belieyed, them AM38 ot 16 Sept., 1946. 30RL 606 WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMII
Reserve Defence Pines Sammer 1918. Somne, From Ol. Nicholson (1937 Anothr point worth my mentioning was the reserve line along the Sonine forming an arc many miles long. The maps I places were very complete & probably you have them As far as mamory serirs something like 80 miles of trenches and 60 shing ponits cement) were constructed. It was simple work with little interception but probably greater in expent than the roads ot yours It was here the first American toops were used with Aushclians . I had the 6th American Engineers a permanent force meet and the 108 Amercan Enqineers a Chicago Auh They were very officient once thy grasped the seriosa requirements, Especcelly at wiring their fficess especially were a kew capable
crowd, very modest, who recognied that their home training had hardly been useful. (French instiuctiss had been sent & their commeats in theis were rich polibe, I used to work one Company of Pioneers with two Companies of American Engineers to quickly break them into the conditions The very first morning I took them out they got shelled and a couple were hit. It was frung to see a big brnch if men standing round the two wornded enqineers and I am afraid my language sending thei back to their work was a bit of a shock the fact was I had ben told to start them in a quilt place and was annoyed that casialties occurred the first nerel- Afterwards at Heilly Chatean they got their share- Yours sincerely Spteluhn
abl Frant line May 30d him
H.7 Roseulhal - Moolancoust. May 1918. Rosenthal tetts ae (28.4.37) that on reconnoitrin the 11th Bdex front be noticed that it wooked over a byy valley in which were a good many hawtorns, and banks, and it seemed to him a good place for the fermens to assemble in. He thought he ought to till ils opposite side. Heaskn connan whe he hadnt done so, & C said be would have done so but simply hada't had time. that R. desired, as soon as his bell was in, he wd seie the other side. Io was discassed by him with Monask, who The 3516 ws to advance next day, fartur to left agreed On May 4/5 the 34th wttodvance with coogply first, then wiring pty, then digging pty. He & Col. White of 33n weat out with Danlop to see t if the posts had been rightly sited. They stanted at the lower end & went right along the posts, & then - as division was pressong them for deatifications - they went out cautiously thro' I screen to see if they coutd find a ferman. They found one newly killed - his body was still warm - & Examined him & bot in his papers 1.R. Then they went back to see of the (He ws 8
On reaching wering was being rightly done. Thyad the lower post they found that the lter had this post immediately ut wast had been taked behind the wire – too close to be of use. White & Daolop picked ap the tape and were laying it down some destance poorthe post when six helmeted fegares appeared against the stytinvh Rosenthal saw they were fermans & imonedty shot white shot another & one t his revolver the Test gave in. They took than back to the Sunken road close behind, & while they were there a beavy fire of rifles & ngr. came from ferman live just ahead. They all by down & afterwards sent 1 presoners back. Rosenbl then started to walk to H.D. but the sabaltern on the pst told him he was walking towards the fermans. Rosenthat repacs to believe it, but was eventually pershaded - & so it was. On May 5/6 the ferman line on the plalease was to be attacked. That day tr photos arrived showay that the fermans had two trenches dug - which, noted Roscultol made the 9th Bde's job more dificalt.
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34 Ba. Morlancourt. May 4-8, 1918. May 415 Captain Beaver tills me, that his company bet very little diffeculty in heading the advance on My pk. The covering company, his own, drove back a faw fermans, but the show went witous intrruption. advanet I tay was now lef in the picket line, Beaver in command. May 5/6 T the folowing day night Moafries with half of A want for the German trech south of the road. Try's report says that they got the trunck but this was not be case. They eventually duy in short of it, a little way in frond of the & previous night's liney Beaser's Ay found the fermans in some polated advancet posts, with machinsfines, a head of the In te homa compand Ferman main trench line, and cleared then lasily, takin adozen Co, Cor Bs bated ortos May6/7 At 4.55 anordes was sut to monfries bat a Youngeto of N 34t lyig in a shellhol Ancounted woaadw, Saw Zfernn at yor he was to pah along the enems trunk, bombery in another hole and abeat of it & callit to & a rifle penades, to K19cr, Fapture & garriion them to sarrenter (shee they did) + carry hem truch. From 5po to 6.45p the arty wil fire on all Out. (He has a phote of the two & anoter G.S.PS near by. At po 4 Ms to fire 150rds on y german whom he saved from bagoaeth K19A 90.75 t K19B0.1 & on hop & CoT. beyond. & who followed him rouns all nyho). Tit When this shaf ended. Monfries was to pash along trench (as a bovt). He ws to boub abong C.P.t Sts & pot solidblock 100 & pon trech jor covering it to L.9.8 greades. At the ent of the man of (ose rd) he as to build anor blek w L.9. & bonber. Tenc ten to be halt as picee line by him, w soots. After dark ts wd be pasted out aheat of mosfies to were his presnd Y. (From Levoy Fry).

AWM38
Official History,
1974-18 War: Records of C E W Bean,
Official Historian.

Diaries and Notebooks

Item number: 3DRL606/275/1

Title: Folder, 1918 - 1938
Covers the fighting in May-June 1918 and
includes notes by Bean and F M Cutlack, letters
to "Reveille" and A W Bazley and references to
Sgt W E Brown VC, Capt A C Borella VC and
Sgt T L Axford VC.

AWM38-3DRL606/275/1

 

 

 

SOMME. May - July 1918. No. 275.
1st SET.

DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914 - 1918
THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.

These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;
also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so —but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.

These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch
for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second, or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
[*AWM 38*]
16 Sept, 1946. C.E.W. BEAN
[*AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL
ACCESS STATUS
OPEN WITH
EXCEPTIONS*]

[*3 DRL 606 ITEM 275 [1]*]
 

 

 

Reserve Defence lines
Somme, ^Spring - Summer 1918.
From Col. Nicholson (1937)

Another point worth my mentioning was
the reserve line along the Somme forming
an arc many miles long. The maps & plans
were very complete & probably you have them.
As far as memory serves something like
80 miles of trenches and 60 strong points
(cement) were constructed. It was simple
work with little interruption but probably
greater in extent than the roads of Ypres -
It was here the first American troops were
used with Australians . I had the 6th American
Engineers a permanent force unit and the
108th American Engineers a Chicago Unit -
They were very efficient once they grasped the
service requirements, especially at wiring
Their officers especially were a keen capable
 

 

 

crowd, very modest, who recognized that
their home training had hardly been
useful. (French instructions had been sent
& their comments on these were not polite)
I used to work one Company of Pioneers
with two Companies of American Engineers
to quickly break them into the conditions.
The very first morning I took them out
they got shelled and a couple were hit.
It was funny to see a big bunch of men
standing round the two wounded engineers
and I am afraid my language sending
them back to their work was a bit of a shock,
the fact was I had ben told to start them
in a quiet place and was annoyed that
casualties occurred the first morning -
Afterwards at Heilly Chateau they got their
share -
Yours sincerely
EJH Nicholson
 

 

 

Front line abt May 3rd.

Hand drawn diagram - see original document
 

 

 

Reverse of hand drawn diagram - see original document
 

 

 

H.N.

Rosenthal - Morlancourt. May 1918.
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Rosenthal tells me (28.4.37) that on reconnoitring
the 11th Bdes front he noticed that it looked over a big valley
in which were a good many hawthorns, and banks, and
it seemed to him a good place for the Germans to
assemble in. He thought he ought to take its opposite
side. He asked Cannan why he hadn't done so, & C. said
be would have done so but simply hadn't had time.
R. ∴ desired ^that as soon as his bde. was in, he wd
seize the other side.
It was discussed by him with Monash, who
agreed. The 35th ws to advance next day, further to / left.
On May 4/5 the 34th ws to advance with coog pty
first, then wiring pty, then digging pty. He & Col.
White of 33rd went out with Dunlop to see them if
the posts had been rightly sited. They started
at the lower end & went right along the posts,
& then - as division was pressing them for
identifications - they went out cautiously
thro' / screen to see if they could find a German.
They found one newly killed - his body was still
warm - & examined him & Got in his papers -
(He ws 86th I.R.) Then they went back to see if the
 

 

 

wiring was being rightly done. They had reached On reaching
the lower post where they found that the
wire had been taped subaltern had dug his post immediately
behind the wire – too close to be of use.
White & Dunlop picked up the tape and
were laying it down some distance from the
post when six helmeted figures appeared
against the sky.line above them Rosenthal
saw they were Germans & immedly shot
one w his revolver; White shot another &
the rest gave in. They took them back to
the Sunken road close behind, & while they
were there a heavy fire of rifles & m.gs. came
from / German line just ahead. They all lay
down & afterwards sent / prisoners back. Rosenthal
then started to walk to H.Q. but the subaltern on
the post told him he was walking towards the
Germans. Rosenthal refused to believe it, but was
eventually persuaded - & so it was.
On May 5/6 the German line on the plateau
was to be attacked. That day air photos arrived showing
that the Germans had two trenches dug - which, noted Rosenthal
made the 9th Bde's job more difficult.
 

 

 

Hand drawn diagram - see original document
 

 

 

34 Bn. Morlancourt. May 4-8th, 1918.

May 4/5
Captain Beaver tells me, that his company had very
little difficulty in heading the advance on May 4th .
The covering company, his own, drove back a few
Germans, but the show went without interruption.
D Coy was now left in the ^advanced picket line, Beaver
in command.
May 5/6
On the following day night Monfries with
half of A went for the German trench south of
the road. Fry's report says that they got the trench
but this was not the case. They eventually
dug in short of it, a little way in front of the
x previous night's line. Beaver's Coy found the Germans in
some isolated advanced posts, with machine guns, ahead of the
German main trench line, and cleared then easily, taking a dozen [shorthand].
[* In the morning

a youngster ^in B's batman or xxxx company of the 34th,
lying in a shellhole
wounded, saw 2 ^unwounded Germans
in another hole [[?]]
ahead of it & called to
them to surrender (which
they did) & carry him
out. (He has a photo
of these two & another
German whom he
saved from bayonetting
& who followed him
round all night).*]
May 6/7 At 4.55 am orders was sent to Monfries that
at 7pm he was to push along the enemys trench, bombing
& w rifle grenades, to K 19 [shorthand], & capture & garrison /
trench. From 5 pm to 6.45 pm the arty wd fire on all
G.S.PS near by. At 7 pm Lt TMs to fire 150 rds on trench
K 19 A 90. 75 to K 19 B 0. 1 & on Wop & C.T. beyond.
When this ^TM straf ended. Monfries was to push along
trench / as above). He ws to bomb along C.T. to Stn & put
solid block 100x from trench jn. covering it w L.G. &
grenades. At the end of the main trench (on rd) he ws to build
anor block w L.G. & bombers. Trench then to be held as
picket line by him, w posts. After dark tps wd be
pushed out ahead of Monfries to wire his
present trench. (From Leroy Fry).
 

 

 

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