Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/274A/1 - 1918 - 1941 - Part 1

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First World War, 1914–18
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AWM3S Official History, 1974-18 War: Records of C E W Bean, Official Historian. Diaries and Notebooks Hem number: 3DR1606/274A17 Title: Folder, 1918- 794. Covers the breaking of the Hindenburg Line and includes notes, sketches, cuttings, material on the corpse factory and letters by Maj GenE Tivey and others. AWMISS-SDRLGOGIZTAA
MD27AAA AEE NOTES-SEPL- CLYMIS 1Ser DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914- 1918 THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every reader and writer who may use them. These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what was then in the writer’s mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep; also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so —but it does not follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when discevered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them. These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Galliffak Sdamphigns) notwithstanding, that hem to be true. Att those who passed on such stories usually themselves belie second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind. PHE. W.BEAN. 18 Sept, 1848. 3DRL 6O6 ITEM 214P EEEEEEEEEEEIEEEELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKEEEEEEEEEEMEAE KEEKEEEEEEEEEEEEEETSSEENL
Hindinburg I oe ig Sept 1918 monachs plan - conferena with Amera before action WERE MERICANS AMAZED 1193 CEN MACKAV TEILS Brigadier-General L. G. Mackay re- calls that the Americans were amaz- ed at the tremendous grip which Sir John Monash had of the situation in September, 1918, when he was plan- ning the attack on the Hindenburg Line. My own most vivid recollection of him, said General Mackay this afternoon, is at a conference of Aus- tralian and American, divisional commanders just before that attack. For upwards of two hours he ad- dressed the conference expounding his plans for the breaking of the Ferman line and the subsequent push hrough He went into details of the ac- on he expected from the artillery Avalry, infantry, engineers, pioncers oad-makers, tanks, air force. and every other participant. His whole Man of campaign was most precise and logical and was set out without reference to a single note. General Lewis, commander of the 30th American Division and a gradu- ate of West Point, told me after- wards that this address was the fin- est thing he had ever listened to in his Lis.
X Fite. 29 Sept 1918 Hendbe Lae. Anti tank mines. by 3 Aust Corpsme to Daust D. On 27 fave a demonston in use of 2 TM. Bowb as an anti -T mine ws carrd out at Erex. II were moved over god sown w the mines (5 apart in 3lines). Are ordy T. Expl 3 fuses in tryug to X a whipper explot one As oth tank dragfed by anar as pabolity acte by 15t mid struck. Tuses wore 107 patter. The Bombe are placed in god flush to surfase, only fage protenday, covered i rubber. Fase them covered to grass & rubbist sept rey . I am f opene t a seate of fort t is nee to o at e n e eat ey their pond lins. 2. Dir asters its bdes if they wanted any menes 410. answer for whole looks. Nove repured as 10 can move anywhers on prest front.
Histonical Notes. From Bulnsh Statietical record. americous in France Cosses of T5A. K. 3, 560 Dopw 41720 wd. 205, 690 50.280 PrD. 41480. Cas. in USA & Europe 325, ,876. Aus Losses. picor w 4.084 Aust 59,330 152, 171. From Chrsnolopy of War Mm. Dect wer on 6 Ap 14 2704 in 1t Lighting ys in Is. 26 June 1917 action morets (st he In J.L. 4 Feb 1918 ( was conbsector then taken over a nerely esteaded. By July 2 over 1000000 wbarked 13 Sept Sr Mchell offencive launched Reach Siden 6 Nov. July 18. F C/a. (2 american Divisions with 11 or 12 Trench - deck this)
From Basth in the Evenin of 27lh 236. A/c govenf E Gen. Minasl to Mudocly Gilmonr myself on Sepl. 28th he Canadians are on the outskints of Cambrai The General line runs along 1 W. Side of Canal. The 3r Army got one Br. asross find and has enabled the a R.2. Bde. to crs, and they found 3 bridges at marioing not blown up. They have over 10000 prisonerss Haldane's Corps is working down that Spur and he is optinistic about reashing 1 Exbreme bend of I hend tonight. There is Hill a big westward bend South of this & The 3d Corps is still west of Villers Guislain. Poday the 2nd Army, a French Army & a Belgian anny attached up norths next in order of sequence is to 4th Army& Ais far as I know the 1st French Army will pred the day apter. My orders are to firce the passage & 1 canal and breach the Wind. Line between Belliconit The Cateleb, with a view to passing through 1 gap and Establishing what may be called a bridgehead on the Eastern side of ig at the same tie Expliiting N. J S. from 1 gap made, with a view to uncovering 1. Crossing o'1 canals so that down south I may uncover passages for 1 K Corp, & kirthwad For 1 3 Cops +13 Army? While on 1 N. 1 3 Army & 13 Coops will make no attempt independent of my attempt to Cross I canal, on the South 1 9th Corps will try to cross independent of me at Bellenghig IX Corps are putting in 146l Div. & 6th Brib. Div and will have the 1st & 32nd Divisins up their sleeves. The 3rd Corps are holding a 2000 yes. front – they are quite played out. The 5th Curps might luss at Vendhuille & I do not think 1 3rs Cerps will try to cross. The 13th Corps with 4 Divisions is in reserve in the 4th Army, and not emplized at present To enable me to accomplish that last they have given me the 27th &30th. American Divrnns and a good deal of the Artillery belonging to 1 3rs Crps I am placeing 27th in 1 horth & 1 30 Orv. in & Sint 20r0 is, 5.50 tomorrow morning. Escential parts o1 blan will sad weatter, in eperienced hoop I am not sare we can realise I whole O1 plan. The trouble with 1 Americans is in their frint lind. He The Americans do 1 just phase & 3rd & 5th Mid. Divisins Esploil to I red lines Total penepation to about 7000/8000 yards & Beyand that I have put doner a cavnly line because I have the 5th Brigade of Cavalry The line runns west of Brancourt. This is the least they must achieve – surk to 90 to of that if they go at all. The black lines on 1 map are 1 Eentiral lines of advance American Corps, Mistralian Crps, I Corps The Americars have no artitlence Thus far it is more a question of Engineering and calsulation than of fighteng & We have latien the first phase as though it were a set-piece - attack under a barrage 350 7s to Each divisivs, barrage falling on dead - Dragh line & we have (2 por thii 17 Jils Lallry blene Re bunax will come down y mins: in the thart tine t
s Missisipi t Ae e tet e r
4 mins per 100 yards throughout 15 Mins pause after I line of tunnel has been passed their to let people get through breatt There will be 8 Brs. in 1 front line & 4 in 1 2nd line. Those in 1 funs line ane assaule. The 4 in 13nd line are for mopping up the tunnel & Hind. line which are suspectes bus to be full of underground fortification & their orders are very strict – mopping up & nothing elseg on no oe to join in 1 advance Bdes The American went in in 1 delerring order. 59 53 60 54 They will albeak in 1 pruoing order. 120 1700 -60 Bde 5yBde 5 105 59 Ble 17 53 Bole 118 156 We have 1 American tank Bn. here & thi gives the 2/6 Div. One more tank per Bn. (5 per Bn); 30th Div. has 4 per. On. I have a M.G. bn. of 192 guns which 1 Boshe has never had before & that is ing half at resourses of the 2 Avisuise this is onlyhalf thei Vickers guns. 80 lanks will make the breach and thase are included in the They have buill Epassages from) their tunnels into the trenches and sunken roads mopping up tanks Urders are that no hole is to be left anguarded. I in not very sanguing abrut thess orders being carried out+ Anbilary - The chi problen is my thiny wied. Ior the last two day and al his night we are culting lanes with 6 hous; they are cutting lanes 2 per bn. from with these lanes and so lands we hope the tanks will be able to lead the infantry through The just phase will involve 1 capture & Bellicours, Nanroy Le Catelet & Gony Ao ti green live is well beyons 1 E side of I canal a it is nesessary to fom depersive flants & thal is the punckion of thise regiment1 - 105B on herth pe on t onte by here aes to epe a lt to h 2 5 to pe fton. tha is rom I grem dotrd lue d a My dess till have s tands lnde for thes purposen tas he have a deuper purteration o 470 ts pun. 1. fis phan) than we wes hand 8 besides the 804 ten te e a te e te ent aeg n the a e t pente len i e ane at no poin ue at ans 2. d pe hereon arnins her thegon the an antly genong o. duisins do at live being their oun artitleny. Bu is all t tim a rigular Coulobeltiny barage going on. Munray n ene ie en en the he dene nen t mtcoud
Now comes 1 problem. Having carries infantry 8000yB, that mormons distance, how are we going to get there further ? We have to get artillery forward. we cannot do that without rad. We ha plote taken very low of all 1 area & with 1 Chiig Engl I have piched out 4 road. As far as we can go up to the tape line these road are complete. am I bisonac lines where they spend towight are ready. Immediately after assault tomorrow 4 very strong gangs of Engineers & promers will forow I bulth & spread themselves over Iroute & we will not brige tanche but fill trenches. Cut away wire &o on. If the trenchies are. no worse than I suppose it will lake I hours to complete them to he Calelet line, beyind which I assume there is open country There & wis will be stated and marked tomorrow by whis boards in these Colours. So that if a boe is told it will have to march by I red road & will be Prev. Lynboand The black & gellow wad will be the best I will be seveloped fr mechanical transports The first effort will be to organise them for field artitlery & Infantry at a pirid can go across country. Tonight I fur Aush brigase with I reserve boes. allotted to them have allocated areas leading to their Various routes. f Right (cavaly) Black - 8th Bde. frred b 14th 54 Res 4th bllow " 9th 10th Carty Blue. Lept ( cavaly The reserve Ides. march on 1 onter ronds The object is that as I battle develops these bdes. will be on onter sides of our Palient- Evey one of these, brigades is accompanier by a bde of artillery. Instead of six these having to came out 01 berrage they are tonight already camped with their infantry, horses, guns &all. They are not in the barrage & In addition to these lix bdes. Each division has a mobile gronp of horse artillery - horse-drawn 60- pdrs and Lorse - drawn 6th Vickers naval guns & These will be used in counter-battery Work and can Easily pull out a 3nd a 5th Didinins have D deploy on the green live and carry a moving batthe to 1 Rs Lud 20r0 5.50. Green Live 9.30 about 2 Fiist thiy after the advance Engineers 90 forward. Then the armoured car buttn from Tincunt cunes by the yellow road and pushes its way through it if it can to 1 green line & In order to help it, it is accompanied by S whippet tanks & I am not very Sanguine that the armoured cars can do anything like what they did before batt I have told the armoured ear, commander that I am not giving to allow him to run unnecessary risks & He is to go through and serze any opportunity
& 2 to get through; and if he can he makes straight through the main be Catean Road tiree and bake for S Divisional Hgrs and one Corps Agro that we know if, and the Eailway Junction at Bussignys It would make the task of the Anstralian troop Very much Easier. I have told you what- are the brigades going nexta No. Australian troops are to cross the start line until 9 am.. This is to give the roadmakers I clear hours before we allow anyine on the road &, The Engineer are Mostly Amerisans - 2600 Americans alone & Beside them there are about 1400 Australians 2 Proneer Bno. and lunnelling Coys & Signal trafpic will have to be allowed After them will po follow the Australian battle brigades, Mistralian Reserve Brigades, American reserve brigades, Each with Artillery + Each Mhistralian brigade marches aling with 12 tanks which have orders to march in column alongside the road but not in them. By the time 13 tanks have been over a road (they have to go by I side aIroad) it shined be a pretty good Mule track. 3rd Division has also 8 whippets and 5th Division 8 whippets & They will send their whippets through the green line at 9 o’'clock & They have orders to engage the Beaurervir line, which is the only objective the Australian brigades have In what I have said "Brigade" means complete brigade gronps or, Enginees M. G. Companies, artilley complete. I Should take these your brigades two hours to reach the green line from the point where they start at 9 o’'clock & Assuming that they can do this by II am my orders are 10647 Ponton at 11 am - 15 8 11766

                 

 

                        AWM38

                    Official History,

             1914-18 War: Records of C E W Bean,

                    Official Historian.

 

             Diaries and Notebooks

 

              Item number: 3DRL606/274A/1

     

             Title: Folder, 1918 - 1941

          Covers the breaking of the Hindenburg Line and

          includes notes, sketches, cuttings, material on

          the "corpse factory" and letters by Maj Gen E

          Tivey and others.

 

 HIST. NOTES - Sept-Oct. 1915              No 274(A)

1st SET

           DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN

           CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914 - 1918

 

THe use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms

of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the

following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every

reader and writer who may use them.

 

These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be

true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what

was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;

also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so - but it does not

follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when

discovered. Indeed, he could not always remember that he had written them.

 

These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what

their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch

for the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he

did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had

seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand

evidence (on which a large proportion of war stories are founded) was impressed 

upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that

those who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All

second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.

 

16 Sept., 1946.  AWM38 3DRL 606 ITEM 274A [1]                       C. E. W. BEAN.

 

                                  Hindenburg Line

                                    29 Sept 1918

                          (Monashs plan - Conference

                       with Americans before action)

 

  Newspaper cutting

                       AMERICANS WERE

                           AMAZED

                                               Sun. 8/10/31

                       GEN. MACKAY TELLS

            Brigadier-General I.G. Mackay

       calls that the Americans were amazed

       at the tremendous grip which Sir

       John Monash had of the situation in

      September, 1918, when he was planning

      the attack on the Hindenburg line.

        

     "My own most vivid recollection

      of him," said General Mackay this

      afternoon, "is at a conference of 

      Australian and American divisional

      commanders just before that attack.

      For upwards of two hours he addressed

       the conference expounding

       his plans for the breaking of the

       German line and the subsequent push 

       through.

 

        "He went into details of the action

         he expected from the artillery,

         cavalry, infantry, engineers, pioneers,

         road-makers, tanks, air force and

         every other participant. His whole

         plan of campaign was most precise

         and logical and was set out without

         reference to a single note.

 

         "General Lewis, commander of the

          30th American Division and a graduate

          of West Point, told me afterwards

          that this address was the finest 

          thing he had ever listened to in

          his life".

 

                        X File

  29 Sept 1943

Hindbg Line

Anti Tank mines

_________________

Jy 3 Aust Corps ms to S Aust D.

On 27 June a demonstn in use of 2" TM. Bomb as on

Anti-T. mines ws carrd out at Divn.

Ts were moved over grd sown w these mines (5' apart

in 3 lines) An ordy T. expld 3 fuses in trying to X

A whippet explod one

An old tank dropped by anor ws put out of

actn by 1st mine struck.

Fuses were 107 pattern.

The Bombs are placed in grd flush w surface, only

fuse protruding, covered w rubber. Fuse then

covered w grass & rubbish.

Rept says: "I am of opinion th a sectn o I front th is mined

in this way shd have no fear of hostile Ts reaching

their front line."

_______________________________

2 Div asked its bdes if they wanted any

mines.

Jt 10. Answer for whole Corps:

None required as Ts can move anywhere on prest front.

 

 

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