Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/274/1 - 1918 - 1941 - Part 4

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First World War, 1914–18
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Sol XII plate. 531 Ht. S. O. Mitchell 1M. says that reference to capture by 3rd M of Gernon 14rch naval gun at Progart on 23 Aug. 1918 is inconrect. His platson (No.5 of B boy) was the first to reach it, the 3rd Bn Capponging through the his bn abt half an hour later 1935 475, Forest Rd. Penshuish MSM
- chupcde Platean pt or wood (w3 s 1/1/6 t Martones to o 114 114/11 Kat Croyart X 6t Bt Objectrers Sunke Ts Coy uaspor) 8Bn objec (onsapport) A SBn O Cast Seguts fiftt as Chuignolles. to te reards are quite wrong I got. To to tell ie of his fip in deteil. Alwol the VC. by this action. Cewl. or y
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(abb 6 dig in) (3 I at t saw 5 Bon coning back (attracted by lot of firing from that directer). to l of E. West Rd (Peroune Rd). Twentacron a batman (Newman) - As be moved the 8Bn saw him. Saw to his CSm to he ws just going forward - going up to see what ws happeing. At copse be found a lot of go a arms who hadn't surrendened - not then fighting. At Sanken Rd. a Coy of CBn ander a new off were sitting down inst. of getting on to objicc. They had bot all their sencor offrs The 6th seemed to be on their objoe on rt, but not left This showe why rtof 5 ws coming back. I kiked them over There ws 300 yds of flat to cross. Of sd how
shall I go S. sd anyhow: - by rashes of 25 yels 4 Therews a gallant dengt. of 6th doing all be could. He sd- go on - yours got to get over. T. had no intention of going on - they began to get into bullets & then ran. They disappeared into the porse & dedn't. come up 1 other side. T. sd: Cook here Newman. we'll have to go on a ganged them up again. He ad then see to I go were sending up rfts along Ird & holding Plateau wood & I steep bank in front It it. A ms had held up 1 lep of 6 a scuttled
their other offes. I went forward to batman & a tank applared joing up. Everyting opened on it Ir v. turned to rt found an ot trench y oh Steep led t into the valler. They got into dead grown There ws terrific fire from Plat bd. In hollow I. found 2 scotsmen in kells (from the Et. Din). 6th had stopped higher on rt in cover. I got ½ way across gorge mepfire from l. ws terrific (Newman had by then bu wd in week wsheap). while he ws there deliberating up the gorge from et came Mr Gun (of Ts Coy) to 15 men of
M gs plr. (while I ws waiting he had heard a L.g. on it blazing away when suddenly it cease & at same tis J. fire ceased. The Ausths were yeting out weve got him. In go pla Lfr. had got up & had shot the J. M.J. Toynt joined M.G. F the 15 men – & they went across the road Northwards Under I edge of bank ws a g C.C.S.W 2 Doctor whoed speak Engl. They sd they wd stay there & look after Austher wd as well as kew own. Abt So They then went forwd is were sent back from here.
& found more resistance coming from Palean wood ( Realising this, I went bask for left of 6 Bn, & met H.F. Capt Darby on the L.W. Road. T 3d 5.D. If from summit you take these men up on S. of Rd & bring fre to bear on the Plateau wood, I will work round w MrG & the t men & rust I wood from the N.W. Lale T. heard firing (D. ws seen & want of in fine style. so as to fivenstime gettn I. s'd dont open fire for a quarter of an hour; then fire tike blazes, & stop suddenly & well rush them. Loing round NWcooned a McGenn, I found
an old trench (also the G. M-guaner dead beside his (2 meary you a a great pile of ammun Alony 12 were deep +ond i gr. K Earlien deonts & g prisss in them all, who put up no fight. At this time Mr.G.. Toput & another were going upo trench alone having lef I rest behind. They reached one dujout - cd hear fo down there - shoutd to them but they wdnt come up. Had nove of owr boubs but took some f. bombs wh were lyny abt & threw A number down – but not one went off. They were wondering abt the reason when they heard

Reveille June 1935

The Proyart Gun

The 3rd Battalion History, recently published, gives

the credit to 5208, Pte. J. N. Doughty as being the first

Digger to reach the mammoth gun near Proyart, which

had been destroyed by the enemy just previous to the

arrival of the Australians, during the August (1918)

offensive.

That statement about Doughty is incorrect. I was the first man

to reach the gun, and received a stab in the arm - the scar I still

carry - from a German officer who was hiding in one of the little

rooms adjacent to the gun. Doughty came along after I had despatched

this German.

When we came out of the stunt, Capt. Bean called on the Bn., and

its C.O. (Col. Moore) sent for me and told me that as the Bn. on

our right had claimed the gun he wanted me to give Capt. bean my

impressions of the stunt.

I did not mind so much my name being omitted from the Honour

Roll - I received the M.M. at Proyart - but I still claim to be the first

Digger to reach the gun. - J. T. CONMEE, c/o. J. D. Crawford, Moss

Vale (N.S.W.).

 

[*This is Pat Kinchington's brother

(served as Conmee) *]

 

 

 

Vol XII plate. 531

Lt. S. O. Mitchell 1 Bn.

says that reference to capture by 3rd Bn

of German xx 14 inch naval gun at Proyart

on 23 Aug 1918 is incorrect.

This platoon (No. 5 of " B"  Coy) was the

first to reach it, the 3rd Bn leapfrogging

through xx his bn abt half an hour

later

 

1935

475, Forest Rd

Penshurst, 

NSW.

 

 

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Hand drawn map - see original document

Depicts:

chiugnottes

5th Bn obj. Plateau wood

6th Bn objective

St Martins wood

J's Coy (final posn)

8 Bn objve (in support) A

7th Btn - Proyart

8th Bn

8 Bn Chiignottes

[* Capt Joyset's fight

at Chiugnottes.

As the records are

quite wrong I got

J. to tell me of this fight

in detail. He won

the V.C. by this action.

C.E.W.B. *]

 

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Hand drawn sketch - see original document

British Rail Line

 

 

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J at A (abt to dig in) saw 5 Bn coming back (attracted by lot of firing from

that direction). to L. of E.West Rd (Peronne Rd). J went across

w batman (Newman) - AS he moved the 8 Bn saw him. Said

to his CSM tt he ws just going forward - going up to see

what ws happening. At Copse he found a lot of Gs w arms

who hadn't surrendered - not then fighting. At Sunken Rd

a Coy of 6 Bn under a new offr were sitting down inst.

of getting on to objve. They had lost all their senior offrs

The 6th seemed to be on their objve on rt, but not left.

This showed why rt of 5 ws coming back. J "kicked them

over" There ws 300 yds of flat to cross. Offr sd "how

 

 

 

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shall I go." J. sd "anyhow! - by rushes of 25 yds."

There ws a gallant sergt. of 6th doing all he could.

He sd- " go on - you've got to get over." J. had no

intention of going on - they began to get into bullets

& then ran. They disappeared into the gorge &

didn't come up | other side. J. sd: Look here

Newman, we'll have to go on & ginger them up again.

He cd then see tt | Gs were sending up rifles along | rd

& holding Plateau Wood & | steep bank in front

of it. A m.g. had held up | left of 6 & scuttled

 

 

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their other offrs. J. went forward w batman & a 

tank appeared going up. Everything opened on it

& J & N turned to rt, found an old French trench wh

led them into the steep valley. They got into dead ground

There ws terrific fire from Plat Wd. In hollow J. found

2 Scotsmen in kilts (from the rt Divn). 6th had stopped

higher on rt, in cover. J got ½ way across gorge 

- m.g. fire from l. ws terrific (Newman had by then bn

wd in neck w shrap). while he ws there deliberating up

the gorge from rt came M.Gun (of Js Coy) w 15 men of

 

 

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m.gs pln. [while J ws waiting he had heard a

L.G. on rt blazing away when suddenly it ceased

& at same time G. fire ceased. The Austlns were 

yelling out "We've got him!" M.G's pln L.Gr. had

got up & had shot the G. mgr. Joynt joined M.G. &

the 15 men - & they went across the road Northwards.

Under | edge o | bank ws a G C.C.S. w 2 Doctors

who cd speak Engl. They sd they wd stay there & look

after | Austln wd as well as their own. Abt 50

Gs were sent back from here. They then went forwd

 

 

 

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& found more resistance coming from Plateau wood.

Realising this, J went back for left of 6 Bn, & met

Capt H.F. Darby on the E-W Road. J. sd to D. "If

you take these men up on S. of Rd from summit & bring fire to bear

on the Plateau Wood, I will work round w M.G.

& the 15 men & rush | wood from the N.W. Later

J. heard firing (D. ws keen & went off in fine style -

J. sd "dont open fire for a quarter of an hour so as to give us time to get there; then

fire like blazes, & stop suddenly & we'll rush them."

Going round N.W. corner w McGwin, J found

 

 

 

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an old trench (also the G. M-gunner dead beside his

gun w a great pile of ammun & one m.gr K earlier). Along | trench were many deep

dugouts & G. prisrs in them all, who put up

no fight. At this time M.G., Joyut & another were

 going up the trench alone having left | rest behind.

They reached one dugout - cd hear Gs down there - shouted

to them but they wdnt come up. Had none of own 

bombs but took some G. bombs wh were lying abt

& threw a number down - but not one went off.

They were wondering abt the reason when they heard

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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