Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/271/1 - 1917 - 1938 - Part 10

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the remainder of Cored by my force & Dowsons a & self private of the 60 approached theedge of the suwkew road to try & locate an evemy trench which we knew must be close in fint & butting our heads up toel to livve a peep, he was shot dead from close quiters Sority afterwards was severety wounded by what through the faws. must have been a Bomb of light P.M. Hell which bursh right above me, which ended my part in the party from Hooper's party Medwory joined us after we had pushed te encmly bombers out of the bornb stop + betwen there & the deagonae road as I found him shot through the ling in a shell-hole
between these two positions. I would like to see his part in the engagement more strssed as spart from taking command for whch of the carrying han he was not defailed he followe my own force half way across to the first objective, burrying up mose who were stow iff the mark, & then in petting doubled back to Butt H.Q. & reported that my force were borbing the strong post He was a remarkably came offices + did sblended work Dawson must have wilhdraw our forces from the Seeuten road aftr I was bit as when I was carled out we were still occupying that position tere were from memony either three of five M.C.s captied by us in the attack. Capt. Dawson was at all conspicions in the times & consolidation & when I attack
retered was the only officer standing in our sector. The above is a bscriptio of the attack as I sowit + m memory is quite clear on the points mentioned. Whether any small in accuracces I have pointed out are worth while confecting avin your narratioo is for you to say. There is however one rework which I would poind out is quite incorrect & I should very much apprecite you excesing - the reprevce or page 557 to my leaving been marke for return to Anshalia as woft 10r comman by Generse ECoR I do not knw where you obtained thi ingonnatior from I had been out from the I am prfeitly certain it is not true. word go & duray the work of the Somme went wa the vile obaltern in my compory & has comman of ahalf Coy, in the dim on most occasions, for which I would refer you to by Coy, Condr, I certainly obtaned a post Capt Terres & my trotbee officers- reglort from the 5 Divisural School, in coy with the majority of w tther course at the Time & had t report to Yeuerae Ellioft who gave me a wonderfully good hearing. offcers wlof Io yourefer to my late Ccocal (DevelyI I tuk you will find that my ability to command was vear guesteoned Havny been pubmoted in the foeed, I certainly wog uisly on an officers dutter when Sacbudea the te patrade poud side School referred to above. would very much resent tis reference being published in your work + world be glad to receive your assurance that I was at all tmes on exceelent terms with it will not be- general Elliott & I believe considered by him an efficiert office & I should very much object to a rewark such as the above appearing in an official history as I consider it an anjust reflection on my character. I don't see any neessity to claboute on my private characteristics lether & would be glad to see you Thanking you for your sticl to the bald vanative. in repring to me & hoping t leave your asamonce rethe above remark, & assuring you of my willingwas to pe yoany pthe injomation in my power &Moon Yours faclfull
A0. 6658. 4 May 1931. Captain R.V. Moon, v7c2, Geelong Club, Beolons. Vice Dear Captain Moon, Many thanks for your assistance with regard to the story of the fighting at Bullecourt. It has rendered possible the production of a narrative which 1 think will be a good deal more accurate. As regards the reference to Elliott's previous opinion of you, he was fond of talling this sort of story against himself in order to show how a commander can be mistaken in his estimate of an officer, and, as you never heard anything of this version, 1 take it that, as raconteurs often do, he or his brigade major exaggerated the facts. The story was, of course, never told against you, and - although on re-reading, I can see it might have another aspect - 1 don't think any reader would for a moment lave imaginetthisy the point was entirely against General Elliott - in all good nature, of course. I have, however, altered the wording in order to bring the narrative within what was ceptainly the truth. 1 should be grateful if you would look through this revised account of the fighting and lat me know whether, as far as you know, it is literally true. Aeain thanking you for your assistance, I am, Yours sincerely, C.E.W. Bean. P.S. There is one point as to which I should be grateful for further inform- ation. You say that the enemy was dislodged from the trench after being partly outflanked. I would be awfully obliged if you would let me know precisely how this was done. I know that it may be difficult for you to explain without rendering the narrative a personal one, but it is important (from the point of view of experience for future guidance) for it to be explained exactly how the Germans came to be dislodged from such a position, and I know that many keen readers would be grateful for your help.
14 May 194 Dr EW. Hean Official Historian Victoria Barracks Haddington how. Dear Sir Many thanks for your letter of ye inst. together with manuscript of the account of the attach of Ballccourt or 12Mag which you iwite me to gain criteuse The only alturation necessary as far as I can see is on page 858 A. The clearing up of the evng in the duoonts osbelters in the deagonal rond was my being but made pr
In the final out of action bombery attack on this position most of the evemy took repige in the engonts there & after we got into te position & whiesta some of us were attempting to consolidate the position others winkled these enewy troys out other were bossed out through the truch line to the rear Those if as who were fust in to tis objectic fired a few shots down the entrances to these dugouts to keep then quiet The matter of outflanking the enemy during the attach on the bomo stop wuch was holding up Dawsons firce & my own reprred to in my previous letter. the resuct of was mere my teeling off a Lewit to get out of the Yun section
20. trench into the open on the loft hand side of the direction in which we were attacking & to open up if possible to partill inplade the vosition held by the Gernan Bombers they certainly got into action & I think cortributed to our clearing dus opposition the I am afraid there is nothing else concerning engagement on which I can throw any furthr light your narrative will now portrey the engagement &Sdunk as the writer wonld personall say is occurred. However ones viewpoint wnss necessarily be a very liited one in affairs of this port + way be questioned I is astounding how little one knew of what by others. from the purticular comed actually was going on apart in which one was cujaged. the above will b sabsfuctory Hon remain Yours sime Co0 Ruperts.
N Mear P. Bult Most with 58 Bn H.N. Dean 12 May 1917 00 inoni -00000000000000000 Bn Att of 58 38 Feruffan? Frt was rcip id in 6 togb Ba Wte D Dydn Olay didnot go own until some two after Hoon Eawon 50as to allow for clearng? ofSP. 13 42 not yet reduced when C lay right phis y But I wene over & they had figulin tere. Myon was allg? it, at same: the from I 1 35 + 45 23 84 55 33 23 1 3 5 5 388 i 4 of A 1413 4 50 2
Cpy Bebleount May Headquarter 14th Mus Tuf Bde My dear Bennett. wite you please tell the N.C.os smen of your battery, who took part in the fight on the night. 14/55 inst, how much I appreciate & value the very gallant work they performed to effectiely in repelling such a Inperior force & I heartely congratulate them on Such work yos very Sincerer Signed). C.T. Hobkerk B yen 17/5/1
Witonal Dept Iun Newspapers (ad byong August 12h 1925 Dear Captain Bean turning doe some on military papeds a few nights ago I came acros or letter written to me by Brigadies Jeneal C J Hobkirk after the Geoman attack on Bulleconrt. I was at the times in command of the 44 light Trench mortal Battee & as the Batton will not receive much your kidds whenh story 07 was is written I wandered if you could mention this fact in your mestony if it is not too late. 21 would please the boys It was dung this Strunt that I Christie &J. 14LT MB rec prpmed Great Work, of which you witl have record & for oh he received.. Dca The original & me yor & see it Want Hoping you are again in the bed I health fresh Bennett Sel yours Ancerely

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Geelong Club

joined by the remainder of
my force & Dawson's, a
private of the 60th & self
approached the edge of the
sunken road to try & locate
an enemy trench which we
knew must be close in front
& putting our heads up together
to have a peep, he was
shot dead from close quarters
Shortly afterwards I
was severey wounded
through the jaws by what
must have been a Bomb
or light T.M. shell which
burst right above me, which
ended my part in the party.
Hooper's party, from 

memory, joined us after we
had pushed the enemy bombers
out of the bomb stop & between
there & the diagonal road
as I found him shot through
the lung in a shell-hole

 

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between these two positions.
I would like to see his part in
the engagement more stressed
as apart from taking command
of the carrying party for which
he was not detailed he followed
my own force half way across
to the first objective, hurrying
up those who were slow
in getting off the mark, & then
doubled back to Batt H.Q. & reported
that my force were bombing
the strong post. He was
a remarkably game officer &
did splendid work
Dawson must have withdraw
our forces from the [Seeuhen?]
road after I was hit as
when I was carried out we
were still occupying that
position.
From memory, there were
either three or five M.G.s captured
by us in the attack.
Capt. Dawson was at all
times conspicuous in the
attack & consolidation & when I

 

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retired was the only officer standing in our sector.
The above is a description of the attack as I saw it &
my memory is quite clear on the points mentioned. Whether
any small inaccuracies I have pointed out are worthwhile
altering correcting in your narrative is for you to say.
There is however one remark which I would point
out is quite incorrect & I should very much appreciate you
excising - the reference or page 557 to my having been marked
for return to Australia as unfit for command by General Elliott.
This I do not know where you obtained this information from &
I am perfectly certain it is not true. I had been out from the
word go & during the worst of the Somme winter war the only
subaltern in my company & had command of a half Coy. in the
line on most occasions, for which I could refer you to my Coy. Comdr
Capt Ferres & my brother officers- I certainly obtained a poor
report from the 5th Divisional School, in coy with the majority of
officers who did course at the time & had to report to
General Elliott ^with the others,  who gave me a wonderfully good hearing.
If you refer to my late Colonel (Denehy) I think you will
find that my ability to command was never questioned.
Having been promoted in the field, I certainly was rusty on 
the parade ground side of an officer's duties when I attended the
School referred to above.
I would very much resent this reference being published
in your work & would be glad to receive your assurance that
it will not be- I was at all times on excellent terms with
General Elliott & I believe considered by him an efficient officer
& I should very much object to a remark such as the above
appearing in an official history as I consider it an unjust
reflection on my character. I don't see any necessity to elaborate
on my private characteristics either & would be glad to see you
stick to the bald narrative.
Thanking you for your

courtesy in referring to me & hoping to receive your assurances re the above
remark, & assuring you of my willingness to give you any further information in my power.
Yours faithfully

R.V. Moon

 

6658.
4 May 1931.
Captain R.V. Moon, V?C?
Geelong Club,
Geelong. Vic.
Dear Captain Moon,
Many thanks for your assistance with regard to the
story of the fighting at Bullecourt. It has rendered possible
the production of a narrative which I think will be a good deal
more accurate.
As regards the reference to Elliott's previous opinion
of you, he was fond of telling this sort of story against himself
in order to show how a commander can be mistaken in his estimate
of an officer, and, as you never heard anything of this version, 1
take it that, as raconteurs often do, he or his brigade major
exaggerated the facts. The story was, of course, never told
against you, and - although on re-reading, I can see it might have
another aspect - I don't think any reader would for a moment have
imagined this; the point was entirely against General Elliott - in
all good nature, of course.  I have, however, altered the wording
in order to bring the narrative within what was certainly the
truth.
I should be grateful if you would look through this
revised account of the fighting and let me know whether, as far as
you know, it is literally true. Again thanking you for your
assistance,
I am, Yours sincerely,
C.E.W. Bean.
P.S. There is one point as to which I should be grateful for further information. 

You say that the enemy was dislodged from the trench after being partly
outflanked. I would be awfully obliged if you would let me know precisely how
this was done. I know that it may be difficult for you to explain without
rendering the narrative a personal one, but it is important (from the point of
view of experience for future guidance) for it to be explained exactly how the
Germans came to be dislodged from such a position, and I know that many keen
readers would be grateful for your help.

 

Geelong Club.

14 May 1939
Dr C.E.W. Bean
Official Historian
Victoria Barracks
Paddington
N.S.W
Dear Sir
Many thanks
for your letter of 4th inst.
together with manuscript of
the account of the attack at
Bullecourt on 12 May which
you invite me to again
criticise.
The only alteration
necessary as far as I can see
is on page 558 A.
The clearing up of the
enemy in the dugouts & shelters
in the diagonal road was
made prior to my being put

 

out of action- In the final
bombing attack on this position
most of the enemy took refuge
in the dug-outs there & after
we got into the position
& whilsta some of us were
attempting to consolidate
the position others "winkled"
these enemy troops out
& they were passed out through
the trench line to the rear.
Those if us who were first
in to this objective fired a
few shots down the entrances
to these dugouts to keep
them quiet.
The matter of outflanking
the enemy during the attack
on the bomb stop which
was holding up Dawsons
force & my own referred
to in my previous letter.
was merely the result of
my telling off a Lewis
Gun section to get out of the

 

trench into the open on the left hand side of the direction in
which we were attacking & to open up if possible to partially
enfilade the position held by the German Bombers.
They certainly got into action & I think contributed
to our clearing this opposition.
I am afraid there is nothing else concerning the
engagement on which I can throw any further light
& I think your narrative will now portray the engagement
as the writer would personally say it occurred.
However ones viewpoint must necessarily be a very
limited one in affairs of this sort & may be questioned
by others. It is astounding how little one knew of what
actually was going on apart from the particular corner
in which one was engaged.
Hoping the above will be satisfactory
I remain
Yours sincerely
Rupert Moon.

 

H.N 58 Bn

12 May 1917

Alt. of 58 Bn

Arty which took Bn in rear was German.

Lt Syder to National Bank

C Coy did not go over until some time after Moon & Dawson

so as to allow for clearing of S.P.

But S.P. ws not yet reduced when C Coy, 2 right 2 plns (9 & 6)

went over & they had fighting there. Moon

was attg. it at the same time from E.

Diagram - see original document

 

[*Agricourt Bullecourt
14/15 May

1917*]
Copy
Headquarter
14th Aus Inf Bde
My dear Bennett.
Will you please tell the N.Cos
& men of your battery, who took part in
the fight on the night. 14/15 inst, how much
I appreciate & value the very great gallant
work they performed so effectively in repelling
such a superior force & I heartily congratulate
them on such work
yrs very sincerely
(Signed). C.J. Hobkirk
Br Gen.
17/5/17

 

Editorial Dept
Sun Newspapers Ltd
Sydney
August 12. 1925
Dear Captain Bean
Turning over some old military
papers a few nights ago I came across
a letter written to me by Brigadier General
C J Hobkirk after the German attack
on Bullecourt.
I was at the time in command
of the 44 Light Trench Mortar Battery
& as the Battery will not receive much
kudos when the your story o. /. war is
written I wondered if you could mention
this fact in your history if it is not
too late.  It would please the boys.
It was during this stunt that J.
Christie o. /. 14 LT, MB received performed
great work, of which you will have /
record & for wh he received. /. D.C.M.
The original is w me if you 
want to see it.
Hoping you are again in the best
of health
Sincerely yours

Geoffrey W Bennett

 
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