Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/271/1 - 1917 - 1938 - Part 2

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Ccan pan Pavigis Nolis t Savie collection of messoges. Ballecourt. Bullicourt Lt Harris P. 24 Harres shot this keonens, near tranwae knew he ws done & repsed to lib Hs his own men carry him back told thim ater to save themselves. Att 820 (see message from Elwood) Recolved to put bombers in port on Extreme flank. Cou attentie manke) refle prenadiens behind; S. Mrter team behind them (l his snact I situation - clearing 50 to 100& of y at once. Opwinchess vazzor- as only sand mnags ove as part broken. 23 Bm Aan lining bank Irew ws acting OC. 230d Pickett led the bombiry the wounde throarig (ho yshot thi aelpng (t at Passch? tir three bombs to Fetters, ame s but ws later shat thes head. 12.20. Tie read tt 7rs Bdes had withdrawn a long Sankin R &A maccregors S mills bomb No 5 Dewell as rewood boing fire ws troug to beer onch from here. Cols Davies & Forbes came alon to 2440 (as per Refmenag. Afterd. 30 were a sates i3th hone of their men were IAii be Corte
Gellys puit to in all the mesages not to make the lase too bad: He wanted the truth but not to be down hearted. Co. 3. but naied H.A. ws however falling on thie E (see gostreys meesage7.40 24 ta had practised carefully, men seean an photws Etc in pauses at practice,& if had be decided (as a Dis failed this lack of awuur) to collect at each post g. prenades ammn rifles, & to use I bombs Amony our own To to go shou't puess when we were runnng short. be, decived they we havy to last fight way out rather then willda as a preciation Coul men were anxious to beat for the spinit they sed never have hung on Sawe came acros a man (they wereto 20a ferny to so refle (his own well covend) wth bombs by him this ws gongon evenieti abt we man to every 3 bay (on an wound tat Only abt 130 lep at 3. 30 am in t I t became filld to stal caus if wod one 16 shown a fask abdoman& cut 8 siphe ort 10 smoking a ciprette. ae 10 t S. Dond wory att ne in he poe to bene hete This man afterwards shot himself (patting t loy commndrs were splended- best leam 2y th we rifh between feetI had men had one notion oah - it doemt matter at what cosl - were sviry to beat them. The loy commdos themselves knew the obgoes. & when objies of S Bde & restd 6th were not to they as wall Brown of 281 may had by in an imposs posety of course took them & withdoew his men (th men were all righ) But Roydhon downed him & sd he wd stay & deserted his coy & came along to 24 Bny 4 C. almos in lars & slapd with 24t And be fellibr and. pert was through
7139. 26 November 1931. Major E.V. Smythe, M.C., Longfield Briselis, N.S.N. Dear Major Smythe, In writing the account of Bullecourt, 3 May 1917. 1 have been a little puszled by the several accounts of the position in O.G.) (the old front German line) on the right of the road which ran between the 6th and 5th Brigades. 1t is said that this trench was found empty, and that immediately on arriving at your own objective you placed in the empty trench on your right a post of the 6th Brigade, and maintained this there. on the other hand we have accounts from the 5th Brigade that a handful of their troops reached the trench under Ljeutenant Daving and that they, later reinforced by a few men of their own brigade who advanced with Captain Gilchrist, were fighting throughout the morning in that trench. I take it that the post was probably a mixed one but I should be grateful if you could assist me with your own recollection of what exactly was the position in that trench, both in the morning of May J and during the night following (May 314) until the 2nd Battalion came in and the brigade was relieved. I understand from the 2nd Battalion that at that time the block was at the road-bank, the stop in the trench having been withdrawn the night before. I shall very soon be getting on to the fighting at Broodseinde and Daisy Wood, concerning which you and . had a yarn in 1917. I hope this finds you fit and well. With Kind regards, Yours sincerely, C.K.W. Bean.
2 Tongfields H.D Bullecourt brigolia 2/12/31 3.5.17. Dear Capt Bean I am very pleased to be able to give you any information that may help to clear up what seems to be a very confused position I lave to trust to memory, most in setting down the events of 3rd day 1917 at Bullicourt and if anything I say conflicts with the statements of other participants it only means that the angle of view was different + its extent incomplete or the chronological order has been disarranged. After occupition of O.C.I by my company, it was reported that the right flank was in the air" Itook a party of my men with a couple of 23rd strays + made contact with a strong German NC post about 200 yards right of the Road The NO was firing (at Capt Gilchrists attack of which we were not then award) We exchanged revolver shots & a few bombs, & withdrew a couple of bays where the ground favoued us, & established a post. Glghnt Ithen noticed that an attack had been launched & was then felerng out about 300 yds short of its objective which was the trench in which we stood. I saw a sgt & another with Lewis Gen & fanniers reach O81 between us & the road. I was returning to the road with Sgt West, Mr later Lt & Nc.) when I met Capt Gilchrist coming eastward along OE1. alone. He said to me Phese men are alright, all they need is a leader" I commenced to explain the situation to him
as he was my senion (I was then a 1st St.) but he firshed last me refeating All they need is a leader I told him there was a post an the right and he went on. I did not see him again. There were some 5th Bde we men in sabout oc1 at the road. While (away on the left I heard bombn on the right & hurrying across I found the post had been driven but had reestablished itself helped by the Stokes gun under Syt Roberts (I believe) Tept Fitypatrick had been killed in this action. There was still some bombing going on but no attack was pressed. When I returned to the road I found a couple of officers + about 50 ofk of the 5th Bde. mixed units. I discussed ber thea the situation with them & instructed them to orgense the 5th Bhe men & occupy the trench up to my post. There was a little demur about taking orders from a Lt in oth another Bde but at this juncture a message reached me from Major Grew D.S.O. senior officer on our front & in Charge of the line, I visited him in his advanced H.Q. a shell hole, & found him wounded He confirmed my instructions to the 5th Bde officers (I regret that I have forgotten their names) & told me to take charge of O81. The 5th of boad Bde units then occupied OC1.Eaaranged Lewis Stokes suffort + bomb supplies + left Sgtchajor Horcom to keep supplies up to them in my absence. Obt I1 am a determin
Germa bomb attack almost reached the road. but was refulsed There were then about a hundred 5th B'de men lining the roadbark and, when I got there from the left they had made a big hole in my stock of bombs. I stoffed some unnecessary throwing andarge Seris giv & Stites mantar support bor Sgt deajor Morcom of my boy was wounded in this stunt. I believe that the 6th Bde menad of the Light post had became casualties by this time. During the afternoon the 28th Pattalion came, in aformed a defensive flant on the road & sent strong parties of bourbers eastward abng 081. conaiderably extending the position. I believe the 5th Bde men withd. when the 28th came in, at any rate. I did not see them again. Late in the evening I received word that the 28th had withdrawn leaving my right wideofer. A post was at once placed in 661 a little east of the road, my company then consisted of two posts, one on each flant & a small returnd theswgs the position when we were reserve of less severely wounded men. + It is fortunate that we were not attacked after the 28th withdrew. dure fighting occurred on the right than I have recorded. only those incidents which are fixed in memory by my own participation are set down. If Lt Davier was one of the two Lts. I met on the road, the 5th Bde account is correct but not complete I traversed the trench from my Right post to the road immediately
after Capt Gilchrists attack and met him only until I aabout reached the road, There were 5th Bde meni Oc1 at its junction with the road, practically all of whom had reached the raad from No mans Land. & had gone alongst to my position t The handful of men were a tidy serze when they occupied the French. They were wixed, disorganised srather lost swere thus not verey effective as an offersive force when I saw them From then on I was pretty well occupied on the left & attending to the reguirements of 062 in supplies sheinforcements. The position & personnel of posts was never of a fixed nature sitter on the left or the right, for Instance when I first visited the left it was held strongly by Capt Kennedy & a party of 22nd. on my next visit. the post was held by two of my own men with three or four slightly wounded round the next triverse. A bomb attack ba swept over it sback + all its original defenders were caseralty both flanks were advanced or withdrawn "according to how opportunity or pressure reacted on the defenders, mary times. The men stood up to the job splendidly and only their courage determinationa resource made such an impossible position lenables Trusting that this account will cear up the position & be reconcilable in the main to other accounts of the action, so that a coherent account of the battle can be made Wishing you every success Yours faithfully E.OSmythe
fr Bullicoune 107 March 28/22 Clineden West &. Hursfuille To officer in Charge Your request Bisgraphical Defails of interest to Historian of A.J.G I take the liberty of enclosing a copy which was sent to me by his fergeant Battalion of Servt S.T. Craig 3280 t Bassalion MRRSL 1932 Prrivate Address Killingworth U.S.W.
Caller pe B. 15 feDr . Report of enclosed officer I saw Cullen killed at Bullecourt about 11 arm. on 5th May 1917. I was the Corporal in charge of machine Gun pection of the Company. The Battalion was hard pressed and Cullen gumped up on the parapet and was firing a machine gun from his hip helping to repel an attack. Whilst so engaged he was suiped and killed. Death was instantancous. His action was considered an exceptionally brave deed by all who saw him. Bullen was Scotch of medium height. dark & had a small dark moustache. He was very popular in his Company. I have no wea as to his burial place Informant. Sergt. S.T. Craig 3200 Battalion Private Address Killingworth U.S.W. returried on Troopship Boonah 10/6/19
AU. 7181. 9 December 1931. Mafor J. Pascoe, McC.) 212s, Lyons Street North Ballarat, Vice Dear Major Pascoe, I remember your telling me shortly after the Battle of Bullecourt that at about 8 c'clock on My 3, when you were in the sunken road which passed through O.G.) and 2, the 24th was driven out of O.G.2 and you sent for a trench-mortar, the trench-mortar which had previously been stationed there having So far as my information goes, the first been withdrawn. trench-mortar, which was withdrawn, was one of the 5th Byigade, and the second under 1Cpl. Mitchell of the 6th Brigade. This conclusion, however, is only arrived at from circumstants evidence. It is a long time ago, but it occurred to me that you might possibly have some recollection concerning this point, in which case I should be grateful if you would confirm, or otherwise, my supposition. I enclose a couple of pages of the mamiscript dealing with the matter, and should be glad if you would let me know if in your opinion it is correct. Yours faithfully, C.K.W. Bean. P.S. Would you kindly return th pages of the mnuscript with your rep.

Savige                    
Notes to Accompany Savige's

Collection of Messages. Bullecourt.

Bullecourt Lt Harris D 24.

Harris shot thro' kidneys, near transway

knew he ws done & refused to let

 S/Bn his own men carry him back -

 told them, after to save themselves.

                   

Abt  8.20 ( see message from Elwood).

 Confce - Resolved to put bombers in front

  on extreme flank;

  rifle grenadiers behind;

  S. Mortens team behind them

  Small - sketch

 This saved / situation - clearing 50x

  to 100x of trench at once.

On wireless buzzer -cd only send messages one way

as part broken.

 23 Bn then lining bank.

 Tree  ws acting Q.C. 23rd.               

Small sketch

Pickett led bthe bombing tho' wounded thro rt arm &

threw bombs for 5 hrs (k at Passch.)

Fethers ^(ko. by shot thro helmet) came to but ws later shot thro' head.

12.20 Trew repd tt 7 & 5 Bdes had withdrawn along

Sunken Rd.

 Macgregors = S/Ms

 No 5 s       -mills bomb

Ps as well as Elwoods

Bombing, fire ws brought

to bear on C.n

from here.

 

Message 5.32 After 5.30 Cols Davies & Fowles came along to 24 HQ (as per

message & were satisfied th none of their men were

in / trenches to be bombed.

 

                                      (2)

H.A. ws however falling on these trenches (see Godfrey's

message ^recd 7.40).

 

24Bn had practised carefully, men seeing air photos

etc. in pauses at practice; & it had bn

desired (as 4 Div failed thro lack of ammn

rifles, & to use f bombs among our own

so th yo didn't guess when we were running

short.

 

Confc decided they we hang to last &

fight way out rather than withdraw

as a precaution.

 

Men were anxious to beat / enemy & but

for th spirit they wd never have hung on.

Sav. came across a man (they were 1 to 20 or 30

firing w G rifles (his own well covered) w G bombs

by him - this ws going on everywhere - abt

one man to every 3 bays (man wounded later)

Only abt 130 left at 3.30 am in 24th.

           ____________________________

F.L. became filled w ghastly cases of wdn One 

w gash abdomen, & entrails smokes showing,

smoking a cigarette. S. sd stick it out lad. He sd to S. "Dont worry

abt me, Sir, but give the bastards hell."

This an afterwards shot himself putting

rifle between feet).

 

Gelly's spirit is in all

messages- not to make the last too bad:

He wanted "the truth -but not to be downhearted."

 

4 Coy Commdrs were splendid - best team 24th ever

had; men had one notion only - it doesn't matter

at what cost - were going to beat them."

 

The Coy Commdrs themselves knew the objves & when

objves of 5 Bde & rest of 6th were not to they, as matter

of course took them.

 

Brown of 28th may have bn in an imposs. positn

& withdrew his men (the men were all right) But Roydhouse

damned him & sd he wd stay & deserted his coy & came

along to 24 Bn HQ almost in tears & stayed with 24th. (Of 28th but trained under Gelly)

And the Gellibrand spirit won through.

 

7139.

                              26 November 1931.

 

Major E.V. Smythe, M.C.,

"Longfield",

Erigolia, N.S.W.

 

Dear Major Smythe,

In writing the account of Bullecourt, 3 May 1917, I

have been a little puzzled by the several accounts of the

position in O.G.1 (the old front German line) on the right of 

the road which ran between the 6th and 5th Brigades. It is

said that this trench was found empty, and that immediately on

arriving at your own objective you placed in the empty trench on

your right a post of the 6th Brigade, and maintained this there.

On the other hand we have account from the 5th Brigade that a 

handful of their troops reached the trench under Lieutenant Davison

and that they, later reinforced by a few men of their own brigade

who advanced with Captain Gilchrist, were fighting throughout the

morning in that trench.

 

I take it that the post was probably a  mixed one, 

but I should be grateful if you could assist me with your own

recollection of what exactly was the position in that trench,

both in the morning of May 3 and during the night following

(May 3/4) until the 2nd Battalion came in and the brigade was

relieved. I understand from the 2nd Battalion that at that

time the block was at the road-bank, the stop in the trench

having been withdrawn the night before.

 

I shall very soon be getting on to the fighting at

Broodseinde and Daisy Wood, concerning which you and I had a 

yarn in 1917. I hope this finds you fit and well.

 

With kind regards,

  Yours sincerely,

 

          C.E.W. Bean

 

                                               "Longfields"

                                                   Erigolia

                                                    2/12/31

                 HN Bullecourt

                       3.5.17

Dear Capt Bean

I am very pleased to be able to give you

any information that may help to clear up whats seems to be 

a very confused position. I have to trust to memory, mostly,

in setting down the events of 3rd May at Bullecourt

and if anything I say conflicts with the statements of

other participants it only means that the angle of view

was different & its extent incomplete or the chronological

order has been disarranged.

After occupation of O.G.1 by my company, it was reported that

the right flank was "in the air" I took a party of my men with

a couple of 23rd strays & made contact with a strong German

M.G. post about 200 yards right of the Road. The M.G. was firing

(at Capt Gilchrists attack of which we were not then aware) We 

exchanged revolver shots & a few bombs & withdrew a couple of 

bays where the ground favoured us & established a post.

I then noticed that an attack had been launched & was then

petering out about 300 yds short of its objective which was the

trench in which we stood. I saw a Sgt & another with Lewis

Gun & panniers reach OG1 between us & the road. I was

returning to the road when (with Sgt West, [?} later Lte MC.) when I

met Capt Gilchrist coming eastward along OG1 alone.

He said to me "These men are alright, all they need is

a leader" I commenced to explain the situation to him

 

P.S. Please excuse writing as I am laid up with a bad foot and am writing

with the pad on my knees. E.S.

 

as he was my senior (I was then a 1st yr) but he pushed

past me repeating "All they need is a leader".

I told him there was a post on the right and he went

on I did not see him again. There were some 5th Bde

men in & about OG1 t the road. While ^I was away on the 

left I heard bombing on the right & hurrying across I

found the post had been driven in but had established

itself helped by the Stokes gun under Sgt Roberts (I believe).

Lieut Fitzpatrck had been killed in thus action. There was

still some bombing going on but no attack was pressed.

When I returned to the rod I found a couple of officers &

about 50 Oprs of the 5th Bde mixed units. I discussed

the situation with them ^(the officers) & instructed them to organise the

5th Bde men & occupy the trench up to my post. There was a little 

demur about taking orders from a Lt in oth another Bde

but at the juncture a message reached me from

Major Trew D.S.O. senior officer on our front & in

charge of the line. I visited him in his advanced H.Q.,

a shell hole, & found him wounded He confirmed my

instructions to the 5th Bde officer (I regret that I have

forgotten their names) & told me to take charge of 001. The 5th

Bde units then occupied 001. ^to the R of Road. I arranged Lewis & Stokes

support & bomb supplies & left Sgt Major Morcom to keep

supplies up to them in my absence. Abt 11am a determined

 

German bomb attack almost reached the road but was repulsed

There were then about a hundred 5th Bde men lining the

roadblock and, when I got there from the left, they

had made a big hole in my stock of bombs. I 

stopped some unnecessary throwing and arranged

Lewis guns & Stokes muster support. Coy Sgt Major Morcom

of my Coy was wounded in the stunt. I believe that the

6th Bde men had of the Right post had become casualties

by this time. During the afternoon the 28th Battalion

came in & found a defensive flank on the road & sent

strong parties of bombers eastward along OG1 considerably

extending the position. I believe the 5th Bde men withdr

when the 28th came in, at any rate. I did not see them

again. Late in the evening I received word that that 28th had

withdrawn leaving my right wide open. A post was at once

placed in OG1 a little east of the road. My company then

consisted of two posts, one on each flank & a small

reserve of less severely wounded men. ^ This was the position when 

we were relieved. It is fortunate that

we were not attacked after the 28th withdrew.

 

More fighting occurred on the right than I have recorded.

Only those incidents which are fixed in memory by my own

participation are set down. If Lt Davies was one of the two Lts

I met on the road, the 5th Bde account is correct but not complete.

I traversed the trench from my Right post to the road immediately

 

after Capt Gilchrist attack and met him only until I

reached the road. There were 5th Bde men in ^& about OC1 at its junction

with the road, practically all of whom had reached the road

from 'No mans land' & had gone along it to my position OG1

The 'handful of men' was a tidy size when they occupied the

trench. They were mixed, disorganised rather 'lost' & were

thus not very effective as an offensive force when I saw them.

From then on I was pretty well occupied on the left & attending

to the requirements of OG2 in supplies & reinforcements. The

position & personnel of posts was never of a fixed nature

either on the left or the right. for instance when I first visited

the left it was held strongly by Capt Kennedy & a party of 22nd.

on my next visit the post was held by two of my own men with

three of four slightly wounded round the next traverse. A bomb attack

had swept over it & back & all its original defenders were casualties

Both flanks were advanced or withdrawn according to how

opportunity or pressure reacted on the defenders, many times.

The men stood up to the job splendidly and only their courage

determination & resource made such an impossible position tenable.

 

Trusting that this account will clear up the position

& be reconcilable in the main to other accounts of the

action, so that a coherent account of the battle cane be made.

Wishing you every success

Yours faithfully                    E V Smythe.

 

  H/N/ Bullecourt

   5/5/1917                                     March 25th/22

                                                        Cliveden West St

                                                          Hurstville

To officer in charge

Your request Biographical Details

of interest to Historian of A.I.F.

I take the liberty of enclosing a copy

which was sent to me by his Sergeant

of 1st Battalion.

                   Sergt S T Craig 3280

                          1st Battalion

                      Private Address Hillingworth N,S.W.

 

L/Cpl. A.M. Cullen

     1st Bn 5/45/1917

Bullecourt

Report of enclosed officer

I saw Cullen killed at Bullecourt about

11am. on 5th May 1917. I was the Corporal in 

charge of machine Gun section of the Company

The Battalion was hard pressed and Cullen

jumped up on the parapet and was firing

a machine gun from his hip helping to

repel an attack. Whilst so engaged he was

sniped and killed. Death was instantaneous.

His action was considered an exceptionally brave

deed by all who saw him. Cullen was Scotch

of medium height. Dark & had a small dark

moustache. He was very popular in his

Copany. I have no idea as to his burial place.

           Informant Sergt. S.T Craig 3200

                1st Battalion

            Private Address Hillinworth N.S.W.

returned on Troopship Boonah

               10/6/19-

 

7181. 

                                    9 December 1931

 

Major J. Pascoe, M.C.,

212a, Lyons Street,

North Ballarat, Vic.

 

Dear Major Pascoe,

I remember your telling me shortly after the Battle

of Bullecourt that at about 8 o'clock on May 3, when you were

in the sunken road which passed through O.G.1 and 2, the 24th

was driven out of O.G.2 and you sent for a trench-mortar, the 

trench-mortar which had previously been stationed there having

been withdrawn. So far as my information goes, the first

trench-mortar, which was withdrawn, was one of the 5th Brigade,

and the second under L/Cpl. Mitchell of the 6th Brigade. This 

conclusion, however, is only arrived at from circumstantial

evidence.

 

It is a long time ago, but it occurred to me that you

might possibly have some recollection concerning this point, in

which case I should be grateful if you would confirm, or

otherwise, my supposition. I enclose a couple of pages of the

manuscript dealing with the matter, and should be glad if you

would let me know if in your opinion it is correct.

 

                     Yours faithfully,

                          C.E.W. Bean.

 

P.S. Would you kindly return the

pages of the manuscript with your

reply?

 

 

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