Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/268/1 - 1917 - 1936 - Part 1

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First World War, 1914–18
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AVM138 Offichal History, 1914-18 War: RecordsofCWBean, Officha! Mistorian. Diares and Notebooks Hem number: 3D606/268/1 Tille: Folder, 1917 - 1936 Relates argely tothe military posta serice and includes cutings, etters to Bean trom Mas Gen VCMSelheim and two copies of Mai CS Cunninghams history of the AIF posta senice. AVM38-3DRL606/268/1
-136 EKosich Shst DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918 HE use of these diaries and noles is subject to conditons laid down i the terms of gift to the Austrahas War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, wish the folowing circumstances and considerañons to be brought to the nouce of every eader and whiter who may use them. These writngs represent only what at the moment of making them 1 believed to be true. The dare were jotted down almost daly wih the object of recording what was then in the wrilers mind. Often he wrote them when very Hred and hal asleep; aso, not infrequenty, what he beleved to be true was no' so –but M does not follow thet he always discovered thi, og remembered to correct the mustakes when discoered de hecould no always remembe thathehawitten them. These records should, thercfore, be used wich great cauton, as relating only what their author, at the "me of wriüng, beheved. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch (or the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he did wy to ensure such accuracy by consuluing, as far as possible, those who had seen or otherwise taken part im the events. The constant (alsity of second-haad evidence (ow which a large proporuon of was stories are founded) was impressed upon him by the second or third day of the Callipol campaign, nowihstanding that these who passed on such stories usualy themseves believed them to be true. Al second-hand evidence herein should be read wich this in mind. C. E. W. BEAN. 16 Sept, 1946. OOESE: in e rrnnsrmmeeinnrrnne eennnnnrii
8 o Stemsis- adt of ts Ilez 3a ai Laolllfog en: ag as ALF.POSTAL le er SERVICE omssed dit! .. ii eßzlos!" Mammoth Tasks (BN A. J. Strutt, Aith Bn, AIF.). One of the least known, most abused, and probably most emcient units of the A.LF, and one which bore a great responsibility, was the Australan Postal Corps. In the mind of the average Digger, the members of this corps existed merely for the purpose of "ratting" the more entcing of the contents of his parcels, or for send- ing his mail on long and futile journeys throughout the length and breadth of France and Belgium. But, despite The poor unfortunates allotted to the task of dealing this opinion, the Australian Postal Corps did a big job, with Smths. Jones, and Brown had our sympathies. as and did it well. their chance of error was greater. Throughout the night Recruited in Australia early in 1915 from members of the work went on. Occas'onally a comment as a familiar the Commonwealth Postal Service, the corps proceeded to name was sighted and his fate learned from the record. Egypt and established its headquarters there. The origi- Shortlv before 8 am the work was collected, and each nal staff was totally inadequate to deal with the volume man's tally recorded, as we were expected to do a reason¬ of work awaiting it, so men who had been invalided from able amount each night. The whole of the work was Gallipoli were pressed into the postal service, and gradu- then placed in baskets and transferred to the sorting- ally an augmented and eficient staf was built up. room, there to be dealt with by the dav staff. Although the majority of the newcomers had had no With this phase of the work I was not so fam'liar, but experience of postal conditions in civilian lfe, lke the imagine it varied little from that of any large mail branch average Australian, they soon adapted themselves, and (minus, of course, the electr cal equipment) of our capital many attained N.CO. rank with their new unit. cities, except, of course, that units replaced towns and With the shifting of the major activities of the A.IF. sectors districts. to the Western Front, the Postal Corps transferred The work of the transport staff was a revelation. Only its headquarters to London, being housed un the old Bass about a dozen, under two or three N.C.O.s, were en¬ Brewery in Farringdon Road, next to the Mt. Pleasant gaged on this work, but I have seen upwards of 2000 bags Post Ofice. It was here that I frst made contact with of mail from Australa transported from one of the London the corps, through being temporarly undt for service stations, checked, the bags of papers overlabelled for re¬ with my own unit. despatch to units in France, and the letter portion passed The main sections of the corps headquarters were¬ on to the mail staf, the whole within 48 hours. Record, re-direction, sorting and transport. Record cards The inward now of mal from units and training brigades of each member of the A.LF. from the time of his arrival commenced in the morning and continued throughout the in England or Egypt, were kept in cabinets in alpha day; the outward dow at about 4 pom, from which time betical order, viz, AA to ZZ. Marching in and out onward transport to Marylebone, Victoria and Waterloo statements were received each day from units, training Stations continued till about 8 pom, these being the des¬ brigades, embarkation camps and hospitals, through A.LF. patching points for France and Salsbury Plain. H.O. Mals for specialist training camps and schools such as A female staff transferred the particulars to the record the Machine Gun Training Depot, Grantham; Signal cards, viz, No. 678 Pte. A. B. Jones, lst Bn. rejoined unit; School, Dunstable; Shoeing School, Romsey etc., were pre- R.T.A. (returned to Australia); admitted 3 L.G.H. Wands- pared and handed over to the civilian postal authorit es at worth, or, in many instances, the brief intimaton, K.LA Mount Pleasant for transport by their services. A some¬ (killed in action). Another female staff faced up in what similar programme was carried out at Regents Park, alphabetical order all letters received from Australa and where the paycels post was situated. other sources. As the time of which I write was Novem- This system, in min'ature, was also in use in the various ber, 1916-February, 1917, the magnitude of the task may training brigades and embarkation camps. Following the be imagined. armistice, writer spent a few months in the Field Post At midnight a re-direction staff of about 50 men, under Ofice at Warminster and Longbridge Deverill, but as two staff sergeants and two corporals, commenced duty many Diggers were overstaying leave, chasing good jobs Each man was alocated a section of the faced-up letters in vocational training schools, etc., much and vared was and the corresponding record cabinet, and set to work. the abuse to which we were subject when the Digger The whole of the letters for one man would be checked, and his correspondence failed to make contact in what part culars as shown on record card noted, then the whole he considered reasonable time. placed in a covering envelope, and addressed according The organising and administrative brains behind this either to unit, hospital or camp. big task were Capt. A. G. Tyler, at Mit. Pleasand, and Great care was essential owing to the simularity of Lieut. G. S. Gerrans, Regents Park. Capt. Tyler has names. Writer once got a rap over the knuckles for en- recently retired from the position of Superintendent closing in one cover letters for two Diggers with identical Mails, Adelaide, while Mr. Gerrans occupies a similar regimental numbers, initials and names, but diferent units. post in Perth.
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Relsphono City 10900. rx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Victoria Barracks, Sydney. 2nd May, 1925. Dear General, Many thanks for your note regarding the Army Postal Sorvice which I will bear in mind whenever I doal with the matter. Yours sinceroly, 8) (Saßgan Major-General V.C.M. Sellheim, C.B., C.M.G., Victoria Barracks, Melbourne.
TELEPHONE: CENTRAL 4780. 2 sos B : p DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE. 2. MILITARY BOARD (ADJUTANT.GENERAL) ARMY HEAD-QUARTERS Quote in VICTORIA BARRACKS, Repl Niclbonrne, 274f April, 1925. Dear Mr. Bean, I am unaware if you propose mentioning the Postal services, A.I.F. in the 3rd Volume of the A.I.F. History. If so might I suggest that Captain Ross who was A.D.A.P.S. in the field from the first, and Major C.S. Cunningham who was the first D.A.P.S. and who organised the service under my control and commanded and administered it for so long, might be asked to submit any information in their possession for your perusal. My reason for asking this is that I have just heard that a document exists in the Australian War Memorial Library by a Major Wilson entitled "History of the Australian Army Postal Service 1914-19" Major Wilson joined Tate in 1915 and occupied a junior position until nearly the end of the War and is, therefore, in my opinion not as well qualified as are some others, to compile a document of this nature. As a matter of fact I am told it is inaccurate in some respects and should not for this reason and for some others, be taken as the last word on the subject. With kind regards and best wishes, Yours sincerely, bennnteictein Mr. C.E.W. Bean Official War Historian, Tuggeranong, Via Queanbeyan.
TELEPHONE: CENTRAL 4780. o sos e DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE. MILITARY BOARD (ADJUTANT.GENERAL) ARMY HEAD-OUARTERS. Quote in VCTORIA SARRACKS, Rep 111 Mielbonrne, 2end April, 1925. The Secretary, Department of Defence. I have been given to understand that there exists in the Australian War Memorial Library a document entitled "History of the Australian Army Postal Service, 1914-1919" the author of wnichis a Major wilson late of the A.I.F. Postal Corps. Major Wilson joined the A.I.F. at the end of 1915 as a very junior officer, and only succeeded to the office of D.A.P.S. at the end of the. War. He is,therefore, I think, hardly qualified to write the history of the service, the inauguration of which took place some considerable time before he joined and which was carried on by officers far senior to him until almost the end of the campaign. I think too as the service was originally established and administered as part of my command, any such document purporting to be historical should have been submitted for my perusal. Surely too much care cannot be bestowed upon a paper which is to go down to the ages as an accurate historical record, and the aid of the officers best qualified to compile such should be sought. I therefore urge that Captain Ross who was A.D.A.P:S. in the field from the first and Major C.S. Cunningham the first D:A.P.S. who organised the service under my control and commanded and administered it for so long should be given an opportunity to submit their version of the subject. I understand as the result of inquiry that neither of these two officers even knew until lately this document existed. Buurtsalhins Major-General. late Comdt. A.I.F. Intermediate Base. Mlplengrera ee
TELEPHONE: CENTRAL 4780. COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA. Sec/c.m. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE N. MELSOURNE. 19th. May,1925. .... Dear Bean, I am enclosing herewith (1) a memo from the A.G. relating to the History of the A.I.F. Postal Service, and (2) a letter, with enclosures which Major C.S.Cunningham addressed recently to Mr Barrett. Regarding (1). General Sellheim was informed that no Unit History of the Postal Service had been printed and that this office had no knowledge of Major Wilson's History but presumably it was written for the War Records of the War Museum. I instructed Mr Peacock, Defence Librarian, to call upon the War Museum Librarian in the matter. Mr Peacock, after interviewing the Librarian, reported that some typewritten matter prepared by Major Wilson had recently been passed to Major Cunningham who contemplated writing a History of the Unit. I thereupon suggested to the War Museum authorities that they should advise Major Cunningham to get in touch with Mr Barrett, Literary Adviser, in connection with Unit Histories, who was in the position to afford excellent advice and assistance. At a later date Mr Barrett handed over the letter and report mentioned in para (2) and suggested that I should send it to you. Mr Barrett said that it was evident that Major Cunningham's produc- tion was more in the nature of a reply to complaints as to mal- administration rather than a Unit History. On Friday last Major Cunningham rang me enquiring as to the question of payment of the sum of £4/10/- typing charge. I told him that I did not know of any fund which could be made available for the purpose. He replied that he thought the information might be useful to the Historian and perhaps the Anzac Book Fund Trust might defray the expenses which he had incurred. I told him that the matter was entirely one for the Committee to deal with but I would bring his request under your notice. Yours faithfully, 8 St. Nersman C.E.W. Bean, Esq., Official Historian Victoria Barracks SIDNEI. (N.S.W).
Normanby Chambers 430 Chancery Lane MELBOURNE May 4th., 1925 Charles Barrett Esq. Literary Organiser A.I.F. Unit Histor Defence Central Administration St.Kilda Rd., ARisounms Dear Sir: Referring to your communication per trelephone I have to state that I have prepared a history of the Postal Service of the A.I.F. up to the time of relinquishing my con- trol as D.A.P.S., A.I.F. in August 1917 which I forward to you herewith. The cost of typing will be about £4-10-0 and I will be glad if this sum could be granted - I will obtain an accouht for the work from Messrs Stott and Hoare. Yours faithfully, eene MAJOR (late D.A.P.S., A.I.F.) 2 Copies enclosed N 4 28 Sle heen ver
SnnvlOR. Pooral A. I. F. -------------------- HISTORICAL When the Commonwealth launched the great enterprise which was to prove so successful in every respect in the War the necessity for providing amply for handling letters, parcels, newspapers etc. for the soldiers was evidently over looked. It is true that a postal establishment was provided but it was totally inadequate for even the First Division to which it was attached and was in such a form that it could not be enlarged as the strength of the A.I.F. increased. The Postal Section comprised only seven men under Staff Sergt. A.W. Ross and was not equipped for the service that lay ahead of it. The result was that the Staff Sergt. (afterwards Captain Ross) had to improvise and shape his course without assistance or anything to guide him. In this respect the Postal Corps was unique among the units of the A.I.F. His altogether too small staff soon found that most of the 24 hours each day were needed to cope with the work and in times of stress were not sufficient. The N.C.O. had none of the machinery or facilities of the Postal Section of the Royal Engineers which carried out the same duty for the British Army. At the outset the leader should have had commissioned rank and his should have been an establishment on the lines of the Royal Engineers and capable of expansion. Furthermore, as was clearly demonstrated later, he should have been in close touch with Headquarters and entrusted with a certain amount of confidential information as to the contemplated changes in constitution and movement of troops. However the little postal section carried on in spite of its severe handicap and with surprising results.

AVM138
Official History,
1914-18 War: Records of C E WB ean,
Official Historian.
Diaries and Notebooks
Item number: 3DRL606/268/1
Title: Folder, 1917 - 1936
Relates largely to the military postal service and
includes cuttings, letters to Bean from Maj Gen
V C M Sellheim and two copies of Maj C S
Cunningham's history of the AIF postal service.
AVM38-3DRL606/268/1
 

 

A.I.F Postal Service No. 268

AVM38-3DRL606 
DIARIES AND NOTES OF C. E. W. BEAN
CONCERNING THE WAR OF 1914-1918
THE use of these diaries and notes is subject to conditions laid down in the terms
of gift to the Australian War Memorial. But, apart from those terms, I wish the
following circumstances and considerations to be brought to the notice of every
reader and writer who may use them.
These writings represent only what at the moment of making them I believed to be
true. The diaries were jotted down almost daily with the object of recording what
was then in the writer's mind. Often he wrote them when very tired and half asleep;
also, not infrequently, what he believed to be true was not so – but it does not
follow that he always discovered this, or remembered to correct the mistakes when
discovered. Indeed,  he could no always remember that he had written them.
These records should, therefore, be used with great caution, as relating only what
their author, at the time of writing, believed. Further, he cannot, of course, vouch
(or the accuracy of statements made to him by others and here recorded. But he
did try to ensure such accuracy by consulting, as far as possible, those who had
seen or otherwise taken part in the events. The constant falsity of second-hand
evidence (on which a large proportion of was stories are founded) was impressed
upon him by the second or third day of the Gallipoli campaign, notwithstanding that
these who passed on such stories usually themselves believed them to be true. All
second-hand evidence herein should be read with this in mind.
C. E. W. BEAN.
16 Sept, 1946.
AUSTRALIAN WAR MEMORIAL

ACCESS STATUS

OPEN
 

 

[* Reoulle Aug 1936]

 

A.I.F Postal Service

++

Mammoth Tasks

(by A.J. Strutt, 44th

B.n., A.I.F.).


One of the least known, most abused, and probably most
efficient units of the A.I.F, and one which bore a great
responsibility, was the Australian Postal Corps.
In the mind of the average Digger, the members of this
corps existed merely for the purpose of "ratting" the
more enticing of the contents of his parcels, or for sending

his mail on long and futile journeys throughout the
length and breadth of France and Belgium. But, despite

this opinion, the Australian Postal Corps did a big job,
and did it well.

Recruited in Australia early in 1915 from members of

the Commonwealth Postal Service, the corps proceeded to

Egypt and established its headquarters there. The original

staff was totally inadequate to deal with the volume

of work awaiting it, so men who had been invalided from

Gallipoli were pressed into the postal service, and gradually

an augmented and efficient staff was built up.

Although the majority of the newcomers had had no

experience of postal conditions in civilian life, like the

average Australian, they soon adapted themselves, and

many attained N.CO. rank with their new unit.

With the shifting of the major activities of the A.I.F.

to the Western Front, the Postal Corps transferred

its headquarters to London, being housed in the old Bass

Brewery in Farringdon Road, next to the Mt. Pleasant

Post Office. It was here that I first made contact with

the corps, through being temporarily unfit for service

with my own unit.

The main sections of the corps headquarters were - 

Record, re-direction, sorting and transport. Record cards

of each member of the A.I.F. from the time of his arrival

in England or Egypt, were kept in cabinets in alphabetical 

order, viz, AA to ZZ. Marching in and out

statements were received each day from units, training

brigades, embarkation camps and hospitals, through A.I.F.

H.Q.

A female staff transferred the particulars to the record

cards, viz, No. 678 Pte. A. B. Jones, 1st Bn. rejoined unit;

R.T.A. (returned to Australia); admitted 3 L.G.H. Wands-

worth, or, in many instances, the brief intimation, K.I.A.

(killed in action). Another female staff faced up in

alphabetical order all letters received from Australia and

other sources. As the time of which I write was November,

 1916-February, 1917, the magnitude of the task may

be imagined.

At midnight a re-direction staff of about 50 men, under

two staff sergeants and two corporals, commenced duty

Each man was allocated a section of the faced-up letters

and the corresponding record cabinet, and set to work.

The whole of the letters for one man would be checked,

particulars as shown on record card noted, then the whole

placed in a covering envelope, and addressed according

either to unit, hospital or camp.

Great care was essential owing to the similarity of

names. Writer once got a rap over the knuckles for enclosing

in one cover letters for two Diggers with identical

regimental numbers, initials and names, but different units.

The poor unfortunates allotted to the task of dealing
with Smiths. Jones, and Brown had our sympathies. as
their chance of error was greater. Throughout the night
the work went on. Occasionally a comment as a familiar
name was sighted and his fate learned from the record.
Shortly before 8 am the work was collected, and each
man's tally recorded, as we were expected to do a reasonable

amount each night. The whole of the work was
then placed in baskets and transferred to the sorting-
room, there to be dealt with by the day staff.

With this phase of the work I was not so familiar, but
imagine it varied little from that of any large mail branch
(minus, of course, the electrical equipment) of our capital
cities, except, of course, that units replaced towns and
sectors districts.
The work of the transport staff was a revelation. Only
about a dozen, under two or three N.C.O.s, were engaged

 on this work, but I have seen upwards of 2000 bags
of mail from Australia transported from one of the London
stations, checked, the bags of papers overlabelled for re-
despatch to units in France, and the letter portion passed
on to the mail staff, the whole within 48 hours.
The inward now of mail from units and training brigades
commenced in the morning and continued throughout the
day; the outward flow at about 4 p.m., from which time
onward transport to Marylebone, Victoria and Waterloo
Stations continued till about 8 p.m., these being the despatching

points for France and Salisbury Plain.
Mails for specialist training camps and schools such as
the Machine Gun Training Depot, Grantham; Signal
School, Dunstable; Shoeing School, Romsey etc., were prepared 

and handed over to the civilian postal authorities at
Mount Pleasant for transport by their services. A somewhat

similar programme was carried out at Regents Park,
where the parcels post was situated.
This system, in miniature, was also in use in the various
training brigades and embarkation camps. Following the
armistice, writer spent a few months in the Field Post
Office at Warminster and Longbridge Deverill, but as
many Diggers were overstaying leave, chasing good jobs
in vocational training schools, etc., much and varied was
the abuse to which we were subject when the Digger
and his correspondence failed to make contact in what
he considered reasonable time.
The organising and administrative brains behind this
big task were Capt. A. G. Tyler, at Mit. Pleasand, and
Lieut. G. S. Gerrans, Regents Park. Capt. Tyler has
recently retired from the position of Superintendent
Mails, Adelaide, while Mr. Gerrans occupies a similar
post in Perth.
 

 

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When the years will bring him maturity.
So he grew and there was gladness

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Till set of sun would cause the task to cease.
Then he heard the muskets rattle,

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Telephone, 
City 10900.
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Victoria Barracks,
Sydney. 2nd May, 1925.
Dear General,
Many thanks for your note regarding the
Army Postal Service which I will bear in mind whenever
I deal with the matter.
Yours sincerely,
(Sgd) CEW Bean
Major-General V.C.M. Sellheim, C.B., C.M.G.,
Victoria Barracks,
Melbourne.
 

 

TELEPHONE:
CENTRAL 4780.
SOS

[*PERSONAL*]

DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE.
MILITARY BOARD
(ADJUTANT.GENERAL)

Quote in
ARMY HEAD-QUARTERS,

VICTORIA BARRACKS,
Reply.........
Melbourne,
27th April, 1925.

Dear Mr. Bean,
I am unaware if you propose mentioning the
Postal services, A.I.F. in the 3rd Volume of the A.I.F.
History. If so might I suggest that Captain Ross who was
A.D.A.P.S. in the field from the first, and Major C.S.
Cunningham who was the first D.A.P.S. and who organised
the service under my control and commanded and administered
it for so long, might be asked to submit any information in
their possession for your perusal.
My reason for asking this is that I have
just heard that a document exists in the Australian War
Memorial Library by a Major Wilson entitled "History of the
Australian Army Postal Service 1914-19"
Major Wilson joined Tate in 1915 and occupied a junior position until
nearly the end of the War and is, therefore, in my opinion
not as well qualified as are some others, to compile a
document of this nature. As a matter of fact I am told it
is inaccurate in some respects and should not for this
reason and for some others, be taken as the last word on the
subject.
With kind regards and best wishes,
Yours sincerely,
[[? Sellheim]]
Mr. C.E.W. Bean
Official War Historian,
Tuggeranong,
Via Queanbeyan.
 

 

TELEPHONE:
CENTRAL 4780.
SOS
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE.
MILITARY BOARD
(ADJUTANT.GENERAL)
ARMY HEAD-QUARTERS.
VICTORIA BARRACKS,
Quote in

Reply........
Melbourne, ^27th 22nd April, 1925.
The Secretary,
Department of Defence.
I have been given to understand that there
exists in the Australian War Memorial Library a document
entitled "History of the Australian Army Postal Service,
1914-1919",  the author of wnich is a Major Wilson late of
the A.I.F. Postal Corps.
Major Wilson joined the A.I.F. at the end
of 1915 as a very junior officer, and only succeeded to the
office of D.A.P.S. at the end of the War.
He is,therefore, I think, hardly qualified
to write the history of the service, the inauguration of
which took place some considerable time before he joined
and which was carried on by officers far senior to him
until almost the end of the campaign.
I think too as the service was originally
established and administered as part of my command, any
such document purporting to be historical should have been
submitted for my perusal.
Surely too much care cannot be bestowed upon
a paper which is to go down to the ages as an accurate
historical record, and the aid of the officers best qualified
to compile such should be sought.
I therefore urge that Captain Ross who was
A.D.A.P:S. in the field from the first and Major C.S.
Cunningham the first D:A.P.S. who organised the service
under my control and commanded and administered it for so
long should be given an opportunity to submit their version
of the subject.
I understand as the result of inquiry that
neither of these two officers even knew until lately this
document existed.
[[? Sellheim]]
Major-General.
late Comdt. A.I.F. Intermediate Base.
[* Mr Newman

Pls see letter

77

27-4-25 [[??]] *]
 

 

TELEPHONE:
CENTRAL 4780.
COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA.
Sec/c.m.
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENCE
No.........
MELBOURNE. 19th. May,1925.

Dear Bean,
I am enclosing herewith - 
(1) a memo from the A.G. relating to the History of
the A.I.F. Postal Service, and
(2) a letter, with enclosures which Major C.S.Cunningham
addressed recently to Mr Barrett.
Regarding (1). General Sellheim was informed that no Unit
History of the Postal Service had been printed and that this
office had no knowledge of Major Wilson's History but presumably
it was written for the War Records of the War Museum.
I instructed Mr Peacock, Defence Librarian, to call upon the
War Museum Librarian in the matter. Mr Peacock, after interviewing
the Librarian, reported that some typewritten matter prepared by
Major Wilson had recently been passed to Major Cunningham who
contemplated writing a History of the Unit. I thereupon suggested
to the War Museum authorities that they should advise Major
Cunningham to get in touch with Mr Barrett, Literary Adviser, in
connection with Unit Histories, who was in the position to afford
excellent advice and assistance.
At a later date Mr Barrett handed over the letter and report
mentioned in para (2) and suggested that I should send it to you.
Mr Barrett said that it was evident that Major Cunningham's production 

was more in the nature of a reply to complaints as to mal-administration

 rather than a Unit History.
On Friday last Major Cunningham rang me enquiring as to the
question of payment of the sum of £4/10/- typing charge. I told him
that I did not know of any fund which could be made available for
the purpose. He replied that he thought the information might be
useful to the Historian and perhaps the Anzac Book Fund Trust might
defray the expenses which he had incurred. I told him that the
matter was entirely one for the Committee to deal with but I would
bring his request under your notice.
Yours faithfully,
W.A. Newman
C.E.W. Bean, Esq.,
Official Historian,
Victoria Barracks
SYDNEY. (N.S.W).
 

 

[*2*]

Normanby Chambers
430 Chancery Lane
MELBOURNE
May 4th., 1925
Charles Barrett Esq.
Literary Organiser
A.I.F. Unit History
Defence Central Administration
St.Kilda Rd.,
MELBOURNE


Dear Sir:
Referring to your communication per telephone
I have to state that I have prepared a history of the Postal
Service of the A.I.F. up to the time of relinquishing my control 

as D.A.P.S., A.I.F. in August 1917 which I forward
to you herewith.
The cost of typing will be about £4-10-0 and I
will be glad if this sum could be granted - I will obtain an
account for the work from Messrs Stott and Hoare.
Yours faithfully,
CS Cunningham
MAJOR
(late D.A.P.S., A.I.F.)
2 Copies enclosed
[* Mr Newman

See me CS 

in

15.5.25

Sev [[???]]
*]
 

 

A. I. F. POSTAL SERVICE.
--------------------
HISTORICAL
When the Commonwealth launched the great enterprise
which was to prove so successful in every respect in the War
the necessity for providing amply for handling letters, parcels,
newspapers etc. for the soldiers was evidently over looked.
It is true that a postal establishment was provided but it was
totally inadequate for even the First Division to which it was
attached and was in such a form that it could not be enlarged
as the strength of the A.I.F. increased.
The Postal Section comprised only seven men under Staff
Sergt. A.W. Ross and was not equipped for the service that lay
ahead of it. The result was that the Staff Sergt. (afterwards
Captain Ross) had to improvise and shape his course without
assistance or anything to guide him. In this respect the
Postal Corps was unique among the units of the A.I.F. His
altogether too small staff soon found that most of the 24 hours
each day were needed to cope with the work and in times of
stress were not sufficient. The N.C.O. had none of the
machinery or facilities of the Postal Section of the Royal
Engineers which carried out the same duty for the British
Army. At the outset the leader should have had commissioned
rank and his should have been an establishment on the lines
of the Royal Engineers and capable of expansion. Furthermore,
as was clearly demonstrated later, he should have been in
close touch with Headquarters and entrusted with a certain
amount of confidential information as to the contemplated
changes in constitution and movement of troops. However the
little postal section carried on in spite of its severe
handicap and with surprising results.
 

 
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