Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/257/1 - 1916 - 1927 - Part 15










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PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM. The Secretary of State for the Colonies
to the Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia.
(Sent 5.20 p.m., 24th August 1916)
It is desired by Army Council that your Government be informed
that it will be necessary to draw on 3rd Division for reinforcements
owing to heavy casualties recently suffered by Australian
Divisions in France. They therefore recommend that in addition
to the normal monthly reinforcements a special draft of 20,000
infantry be sent as soon as possible to make good present deficit
and so enable 3rd Division to be again brought up to strength.
They recommend further that for three months following despatch of
this special draft the monthly reinforcements of infantry sent
should be calculated at 25% of establishment, that is, about
16,500 per month for five divisions. This is the only means of
retaining 3rd Division for service in field though the Army
Council are aware that the provision of this additional personnel
may greatly inconvenience your Government in training and other
arrangements.
BONAR LAW.
[*C68-1-15*]
FS/DC.
Ab.,
SECRET.
7th September, 6
A.A.G., A.I.F.,
Attached Headquarters,
1st ANZAC.
I forward, for your information, a copy of a
telegram received from the Department of Defence, Melbourne:-
Begins -
"W.13463. Following cable was sent on August 31st to
S. of S.:- With reference to your telegram of
August 24th, which conveyed intimation from Army
Council that it will draw on 3rd Division for
reinforcements, on account of heavy casualties
recently suffered in France by Australia Division
and recommended special draft of 20,000 Infantry
said special draft of 20,000 Infantry will be sent
immediately by Government as Transport comes to
hand and 16,500 per month thereafter. Do not however
understand position with regard to reinforcements
last state you furnished of date August 29th shows
45,000 in Depots and Camps of whom 14,000 probably
3rd Division. This leaves 31,000 reinforcements
available with longer training than 3rd Division.
Are they not being absorbed in the field by force? In
addition, 15,000 at least are now at sea on passage.
Despatch of normal reinforcements is taking place in
September and October. Hope to despatch special draft
of 20,000 middle of November if transport available,
but at present uncertain if full normal reinforcements
can be despatched November, but they will be December.
The 16,500 reinforcements desired will be sent
January also February and March,
Ends.
Lieutenant.
Staff Captain.
for D.A.A.G.,
Administrative Headquarters, A.I.F.
[*C68-1-15*]
FS/MEM
Ab 68. 1.15.
August 31st. 6
SECRET.
A.A.G., A.I.F.
Attached Headquarters,
1st Anzac.
I forward for your information copies of cablegrams
between the Minister of Defence and the War Office :-
From Minister of Defence Australia,
To War Office :-
26th August 16.
(No. C 173)
"It is suggested by Commonwealth that 11th
and 12th Light Horse, all dismounted double
squadrons of Light Horse, all members Australia
Imperial Force, with Camel Corps Companies, and
all, excepting reinforcements beyond 6 per cent,
for the nine regiments in Light Horse Division
should be sent as soon as possible to England
to meet requirements for infantry reinforcements
for four divisions in France."
From War Office
To Minister of Defence, Australia.
28th August 1916.
(No. 22115, cipher. S.D.2.)
"Your No. C 173. The troops to which you refer
are all fully employed in the defence of Egypt
and it has been recently stated by the General
Officer Commanding-in-Chief that the Anzac troops
are keystone to the defence of Egypt. Army Council
therefore, greatly regret they cannot comply with
your suggestion."
Lieutenant,
Staff Captain,
for D.A.A.G.,
Administrative Headquarters, A.I.F.
THIRD AUSTRALIAN DIVISION,
LARK HILL CAMP,
SALISBURY PLAIN.
19/9/16.
COPY.
Colonel Anderson,
Administrative Headquarters,
A.I.F., Horseferry Road,
LONDON.
My dear Colonel,
General Birdwood has written instructing me to prepare
careful statistics as to troops available from all sources so that, in
consultation with Sir Newton Moore, I may, should the necessity arise,
be able to go with him to the War Office to contest the necessity of
withdrawing any furthe r troops from the Third Division.
To this end Colonel Griffiths is going to send me from
France definite and reliable statistics as to the deficiences to be
good both in the four veteran divisions and in the depot at Etaples,
and the authorities at Tidworth are going to supply me with full
statistics xxxxxxxxxxxxx as to all troops available in England, in
deopts, other than the Third Division.- In order to avoid mistakes
arising from drafts en route, both these statistics will be related to
one and the same date, namely September 25th.
In order to complete the story and enable me to be in a
position to present to the authorities a complete statement as to the
whole available resources in men I should now like, in addition to the
above, to have from you a precis of the very latest information at your
disposal as regards troops on passage from Egypt or Australia on the
date in question, namely September 25th. I am quite aware that your
information on this point is sometimes incomplete and indefinite, but
doubtless your Captain Donnelly will be in a position to supply a
considerable amount of information as to the numbers of troops known
for certain to be on the water and shortly to arrive. If there is
definite information available about ships expected to report on
definite or approximate dates after September 25th, it would be useful
to have that information added to the statement.
Will you be so kind therefore as to have such a statement
prepared for my use and forwarded to me as soon as may be after
September 25th.
Yours Faithfully,
(sgd) John Monash.
C68-1-15
27th September 1916.
The GO.C.,
Headquarters,
3rd Australian Division,
Lark Hill Camp,
Salisbury Plain.
With reference to your letter of the 19th instant, asking for
a statement as to the whole available xxxxxxx resources of troops on
passage from Egypt to Australia.
I am enclosing herewith a return showing reinforcements of
units at present en route to England. This list contains the whole of
the information asked for.
I am also enclosing a copy of a cablegram from Defence which
shows the reinforcements which are due to arrive monthly from
Australia. The War Office has full information with regard to
reinforcements arriving from Australia.
FIRST AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND ARMY CORPS.
Headquarters,
22nd September 1916.
Headquarters,
A.I.F. Depots in England,
Tidworth.
I am to attach -
(a) statement showing the number of reinforcements available
in England and at Etaples for the Australian divisions;
(b) state showing briefly how we stand with regard to
reinforcements other than infantry;
2. It will be seen that -
in the artillery there are - 268
" engineers " " 238
" pioneers " " 178
" machine gun corps " " 469
" A.A.S.C. " " 695
______
1848
over and above requirements, who are available for transfer to
infantry.
3. In addition, probably another 100 volunteers for transfer to
the infantry could be obtained from the A.A.M.C., and a communication
is being addressed to the D.M.S., A.I.F., on the subject, from
whom, no doubt, you will shortly hear.
4. In allocating the transferees under "2" to units, it should be
borne in mind that, as far as practicable, they should be sent to a
unit of the district to which they belong, i.e., the territorial
organisation is to be adhered to: and, in addition, regard must
be had to the fact that infantry reinforcements available in
some of the divisions alreadly greatly exceed the numbers required
to complete, as the following table will show -
Total strength of infantry reinforcements in England and at Etaples |
Number required to complete infantry of division to establishment |
|
Other ranks | Other ranks | |
1st Aust. Division |
6,542 |
3,180 |
2nd Aust. Division |
7,083 |
3,802 |
4th Aust. Division |
4,713 |
4,693 |
5th Aust. Division |
4,171 |
4,502 |
22,509x |
16,157 |
XNote. To this number may be added 1,848 on account of the men
referred to in "2", about to be transferred.
It will be therefore be necessary to transfer some of the reinforcements
of the 1st and 2nd Divisions to the 4th and 5th Divisions
- still adhering to the territorial basis - so as to equalise
matters - not only in regard to the total number of reinforcements,
but, as far as practicable, so that each brigade will have an equal
number of trained reinforcements available at the same dates.
Lieut.-Colonel,
A.A.A., A.I.F.
GENERAL REINFORCEMENTS.
B.213 of 16/9/16. England 15/9/16.
Etaples 16/9/16.
ARM | In England | Etaples | Total Rfcts |
Short of Strength | Total | |||||||||||||||
Present | Etd. & Eqpd. | 1.A Div | 2.A Div | 3.A.Div | 4.A Div | 5.A. Div. | ||||||||||||||
Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | |
Artillery and D.A.C. |
13 |
1393 |
3 |
783 |
1 |
574 |
15 |
2176 |
1 |
63 |
1 |
37 |
- |
- |
- |
38x |
5 |
- |
7 |
136 |
Engineers |
19 |
541 |
3 |
158 |
2 |
55 |
22 |
699 |
2 |
8 |
2 |
51 |
- |
- |
- |
22 |
- |
- |
4 |
81 |
Signals |
- |
- |
- |
92 |
- |
81 |
- |
92 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
3 |
- |
2 |
- |
5 |
Pioneers |
13 |
1124 |
1 |
154 |
1 |
52 |
14 |
1278 |
1 |
238 |
- |
171 |
- |
- |
2 |
191 |
1 |
X |
4 |
600 |
M.G. Coys |
1 |
378 |
- |
210 |
- |
184 |
1 |
588 |
3 |
3 |
2 |
3 |
- |
- |
5 |
18 |
- |
- |
10 |
24 |
A.A.M.C. |
31 |
370 |
- |
174 |
- |
93 |
31 |
544 |
2 |
15 |
- |
15 |
- |
- |
- |
19 |
1 |
7 |
3 |
56 |
A.A.S.C. |
15 |
658 |
- |
259 |
- |
185 |
15 |
917 |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
2 |
12 |
- |
- |
2 |
12 |
xD.A.C.
Div. Arty. not shown.
REINFORCEMENT STATEMENT. 16/9/18
Unit |
England |
Etaples |
Total Rfcts. |
Short of Strength |
||||||||
By Bdes | Total Ftd. & Eqpd. | By Bdes | Total Bde | |||||||||
Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | |
1st Aust. Division. | ||||||||||||
1st Bn. |
7 |
1204 |
1 |
161 |
|
|
13 |
1748 |
7 |
394 |
29 |
1427 |
2nd Bn. |
1 |
123 |
|
40 |
1 |
277 |
||||||
3rd Bn. |
4 |
123 |
1 |
1 |
9 |
311 |
||||||
4th Bn. |
|
137 |
|
29 |
12 |
445 |
||||||
5th Bn. |
23 |
2133 |
|
125 |
|
|
26 |
2761 |
3 |
290 |
7 |
971 |
6th Bn. |
|
236 |
|
94 |
|
167 |
||||||
7th Bn. |
1 |
126 |
|
|
|
267 |
||||||
8th Bn. |
2 |
141 |
|
1 |
4 |
247 |
||||||
9th Bn. |
25 |
1428 |
2 |
142 |
|
15 |
32 |
2033 |
6 |
223 |
19 |
782 |
10th Bn. |
3 |
234 |
|
116 |
5 |
232 |
||||||
11th Bn. |
2 |
72 |
|
|
3 |
153 |
||||||
12th Bn. |
|
157 |
|
|
5 |
174 |
||||||
55 |
4765 |
|
|
|
|
71 |
6542 |
|
|
55 |
3180 |
|
Note: 2nd Infantry Brigade ar short of 1 Brigade Major and 1 Chaplain in addition. |
||||||||||||
2nd Aust. Division. | ||||||||||||
17th Bn. |
18 |
1501 |
2 |
339 |
2 |
|
26 |
2665 |
|
238 |
17 |
1226 |
18th Bn. |
2 |
315 |
1 |
|
11 |
416 |
||||||
19th Bn. |
2 |
279 |
3 |
|
6 |
233 |
||||||
20th Bn. |
1 |
231 |
1 |
50 |
|
339 |
||||||
21st Bn. |
16 |
1682
|
|
181 |
|
|
21 |
2360 |
|
431 |
12 |
1556 |
22nd Bn. |
2 |
161 |
1 |
49 |
9 |
408 |
||||||
23rd Bn. |
|
159 |
|
|
3 |
345 |
||||||
24th Bn. |
3 |
171 |
1 |
|
|
372 |
||||||
25th Bn. |
9 |
1403 |
|
161 |
|
8 |
13 |
2058 |
10 |
233 |
25 |
1020 |
26th Bn. |
|
147 |
|
|
6 |
198 |
||||||
27th Bn. |
2 |
156 |
1 |
|
|
192 |
||||||
28th Bn. |
2 |
191 |
2 |
1 |
9 |
397 |
||||||
43 |
4586 |
|
|
|
|
50 |
7083 |
|
|
54 |
3802 |
Unit |
England |
Etaples |
Total Rfcts. |
Short of Strength |
||||||||
By Bdes | Total Ftd. & Eqpd. | By Bdes | Total Bde | |||||||||
Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | Off. | O.R. | |
4th Aust. Division. | ||||||||||||
13th Bn. |
5 |
1295 |
1 |
83 |
|
|
10 |
1640 |
4 |
397 |
17
|
1402 |
14th Bn. |
3 |
109 |
1 |
|
3 |
265 |
||||||
15th Bn. |
|
63 |
|
|
1 |
402 |
||||||
16th Bn. |
1 |
90 |
|
|
9 |
338 |
||||||
45th Bn. |
7 |
970 |
1 |
156 |
|
|
11 |
1512 |
4 |
315 |
28 |
1576 |
46th Bn. |
1 |
137 |
|
|
4 |
308 |
||||||
47th Bn. |
1 |
111 |
|
|
5 |
412 |
||||||
48th Bn. |
1 |
138 |
1 |
|
15 |
541 |
||||||
49th Bn. |
11 |
1236 |
|
66 |
|
|
13 |
1561 |
13 |
362 |
49 |
1695 |
50th Bn. |
|
102 |
|
|
5 |
362 |
||||||
51st Bn. |
2 |
67 |
|
|
14 |
476 |
||||||
52nd Bn. |
|
90 |
|
|
17 |
495 |
||||||
23 |
3501 |
|
|
|
|
34 |
4713 |
|
|
94 |
4673 |
|
5th Aust. Division. | ||||||||||||
29th Bn. |
19 |
983 |
1 |
109 |
1 |
10 |
24 |
1596 |
|
|
13 |
1477 |
30th Bn. |
|
218 |
|
33 |
|
|
||||||
31st Bn. |
1 |
193 |
1 |
23 |
|
|
||||||
32nd Bn. |
3 |
93 |
3 |
17 |
|
|
||||||
53rd Bn. |
7 |
1051 |
|
35 |
|
13 |
9 |
1266 |
|
|
22 |
1346 |
54th Bn. |
1 |
63 |
|
17 |
|
|
||||||
55th Bn. |
57 |
|
|
6 |
|
|
||||||
56th Bn. |
1 |
60 |
1 |
17 |
|
|
||||||
57th Bn. |
13 |
966 |
1 |
54 |
1 |
6 |
15 |
1309 |
|
|
28 |
1659 |
58th Bn. |
|
123 |
|
21 |
|
|
||||||
59th Bn. |
|
82 |
|
12 |
|
|
||||||
60th Bn. |
1 |
84 |
1 |
13 |
|
|
||||||
39 |
3000 |
|
|
|
|
48 |
4171 |
|
|
63 |
4482 |
ARTILLERY.
Available |
15 |
2176 |
||
Required |
7 |
138 |
for divisions | |
8 |
2038 |
remaining | ||
24 |
600 |
to form extra batteries | ||
-16 |
plus |
1438 |
remaining | |
1170 | 7% reinforcements | |||
268 |
available for transfer |
ENGINEERS.
Available |
15 |
2176 |
||
Required |
7 |
138 |
for divisions | |
8 |
2038 |
remaining | ||
24 |
600 |
to form extra batteries | ||
-16 |
plus |
1438 |
remaining | |
1170 | 7% reinforcements | |||
268 |
available for transfer |
PIONEERS.
Available |
14 |
1278 | |
Required |
4 |
600 |
for divisions |
10 |
678 |
remaining | |
|
500 |
10% | |
178 | available for transfer |
MACHINE GUN CORPS.
Available |
1 |
588 |
|
Required |
-10 |
54 |
for divisions (? 5th Div) |
-9 |
plus 534 |
||
|
65 |
10% reinforcements, say | |
469 |
available for transfer to infantry (should be noted in battalions for Lewis Gun sections_ |
A.A.S.C.
Available |
XX 15 |
917 |
|
Required |
2 |
12 |
|
13 |
905 |
||
|
210 |
reinforcements at 7% | |
695 |
available for transfer |
A.A.M.C.
Available |
31 |
544 |
|
Required |
3 |
56 |
|
28 |
488 |
||
|
250 |
at 5% | |
238 |
remaining, from whom say 100 volunteers might be called. Remainder could be "attached" (for div. baths etc.) to |
COPY.
November 1916.
Defence to War Office -
C.188 Do you concur in the following. It is proposed
in future to give only a few weeks elementary training to
Australian reinforcements before embarkation as it is understoon
that advanced training can be given more efficiently
in England.
War Office to Defence -
24957 cipher S.D.2 Your C.188 November 11th. We concur.

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