Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/254/1 - 1917 - 1933 - Part 4

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if 57 6 meat Of the A viousation rghon carried, one may be catent bearn meals is to be Leady of 5. aon the monitg for t straggless or relieved parts of the Poit of asscrubly Bn. at the C. Park, WaterTamhack, where Lt dR Sohmeling will established a permanent gard and see to the the New Billets must be allowed for guidance into Billets for the 5t/10. Dress. Storm-dress as vorbally ordered - of posseste every man byg spades with chortened handles, steel helmets with Lndbass covering Bearer troops () of he companies only steet helmet & haversack with Kations light & hears te. The proportion of beares troops for H.MGs during canier battle with not be altered by above orders. The Battle. stooh ohen arms troops likewise with Sieltmand.- Coys may assirtance eventually count upon the paray from men of her M.W. Att stemporary carriers.- As the laste mout men 2te ma minle dimoed to wate a loch) at be late from the pondy mostf where a an r m sould be abong disposat, oesne in case the Ii to be remembered to take I signalwerfer (signal thrower) for the company,h Roktpistols, were cutters aeraptane. Hight Signalo hoons (no Grums) Rockets acroplanc closhs & hant granades. (Newopapers instead of aloths.
is the peempres) to carry conti ntensily for company fletoon leade, alpo blue Res pepeils ccom for patart!) Any prisoners or boot to be despatched with the smaller 9/ ecort to front dune H.D 107 Any doubts to be at once bronght under notice. Coy- Eaden St Sohmeling bfdw. Kuller to appear at 11 Bn at 9gc this evening at a conference.-
1 14 17 oither the points at which the Fcor or 5th cos are to break thro' are the grongs of trees in the enemy sected about 200 & 400 m south of point 715 Grainary compan bearing eeacty SW. The reserve-coys are to follier dosely and to assist in the pomble breaking thro' by the I1 Battn by every means. For 1/302 concentrate it may be necessary, according to circumstances to t against abranced enemy positions between Pond and ?Wedget, or also, in case of an onemy flanking morement from the North, an attack on a about buchhicd norther direction, ton pat 1000 ho ayoining con. 7/312 t m North. 715.) especially coneponaty south of the fond.- does not nove forward for For the 13 prr circumstances may bring into guestion the necessiz of exheeling against the south East on the northeon. Carm most building of Molennertesthoed. put in Hhe last keserve gow mint be absoluter apon te gain the objective.- Heverthild in all the new all wran wertecers of t mst expected the mare then mingting. mgcubt etuotie wots, ao formator after the atack l be meceray should the attack not compltely succeed,e on no account is ground at given way. The ground con must be held a all costs.
Bf Bressing stations are notified on the Wooosleede. Broodseinde Rd commoad on I in the quarry 400m. east of Wgeterle Broodscinale con toad nptt in the same 1500 m farther on east of calian near Droegenbrood hock. in the same a at Bcoosteede approacte by 8 At BiK (Jagerlager I on the nearchingin road of the Bn.) cross wad about 200m with of the Indestr. B Further the known dressing station in waterdam- hack on the road to Moorskede. 14 Mledical nco? & stretcher bearers will accompany the Coys. The 5 Coy witl have staled to it an extra stretcher bearer patrol of 4 men from the tanitals Con 527.- h apatroly will be at hand at B.T.K mrte- from previons experience the Eughsts respect the Red Coss wichlian fag tis therefore to be made of it to the wounded during a terk in the fighting.- No wounded man should remain lying in the front line duiing at kin & relief. 15 The relief of the Bo will take place, in case of no counter- orderbn having been given, during the night of tel - 5th D by the 5th Ed Rot Zaruss. The cosp may without further advice return to tratenahock, if the have been relieved no troops, to man, may by cns of the 5G.R St. return until be har been relieved. - Non- relieved parties must ander all circumstances carry on
16 18. any douth to be atonce brought to notice In segard to equisment, sationing, march special written or verbal order will be promilgate During the night of 45x at 12 oc the KIk of the 5 ER3t will take over the command. 2 Major & Bn Commander
1010-22 -3a - No. 30 7End L.R. Was sent into the line last night and relieved the 92nd R.I.R. in the support line, Dispositions. The 2nd Bn. of the 72nd I.R. relieved the s2nd R.L.R. in the frent line at 3 a.m. this merning. 1st and 3rd Bns. were in support afts. The whole of the 8th Divisional Recruit Depot, mount- ing to 100 men of the 1917 class, was drafted to the 72nd I.R. on the 2nd October. 220th R.L.R. Previcusly held the sector south of LONMEEERE. Prisenar was detailed as observer for duty in the sester held by the 937d R.J.R. and 212th R.I.R. Dispositions. The 45th Res. Divn. is still the 8ro8s Division. The 21rth R..R. was in shell holes to the rear. INTERROGATION of Prisoner, belonging to the 221st P.A.R., (officer Aspirant). The Regiment came into the line from rest at TOURKAt on the 26th September for our sttack, pesition of Batte. Prisoner’s battery -- a 10. 6cm. Hew. is in position at E7.5.2.6. The battery had 4 guns in the open, no camouflage or pits, the men sleeping in alephant shelters by the ouns. These sunsare of old type. Casualties. In the battery had been great, and though prison- or would not give any figures, he adnitted he was the only officer left in his battery. TRANSLATION of Resimental order of the 6th Gaard Grenadier Rest., saptured in to-days attask. 2th Quard Grenadiox Regiment. Rexisental Battle H.S. p.M., 2-10-17. Mdtth Hohensturn (Hill Attack) is pastpened to 4-10317. A1l Tn orders come into eparation on 4.10.17, failing alterations and amend- ments. 2. On the 3-10-17, as seen as the dawn permits, relief of frent line is to take place. T. Battalion will relieve J. Battalien; I. Battalion then relieves II. Battalion; If. Battalion, after being relieved, will garrison the sectors 9 - 12. Times and other de- tails to be arranged between battalions. The relief must be com- plete by 12 midnight. Proposed disposition and strengths to be reported by 12 noon on 3-10--17. Complete ralief to be reported by code word for Felief Complete. The M.G. Coy, will relieve on the following night. 3. After the lst Bn. of 212th R.I.R. has marched through on 5(4th, the H.Q. of 2nd Bn., 5th 6d. Gren. Regt, and 2 companies may re cuan to the Alarmt quarters in the N.W. portion of MOORSLENE, On completion of relief, 2nd Bn. will detail 6 guides fo: the companies of 1st Bn., 212th R.I.R., who will guide the vario: -tach ments of the newly arrived companies into their support postims. only reldable men are to be enployed. In inc mid-day report it will be stated shether hot or cold meals were supplied during the previous night. (ssd) SCKLEINITE.
vie from 4 Oct As the attach yeste att be the right pank Southwards intend berond KAE 21 rements of will be launcbed as second under orders Ju 212Al favns Dir faili w ach bet 2126 ludove 1Hon leased.
FOR WOUNDED OFFICERS AND N.C.OS.AND. OTHERS RETRNING FRON THE FIRIG LINE DURIG AN APTRUK. information concerning the enemy and his defences etc. ANY which you ma; have found out during the attack in which you were wounded, would be of the greatest value to those who have to carry on the attack. Will you please answer as many of the following questions as you can :- What is your unit ? 1. where were you when you got wounded 7. Rt What time 7. What portion of the German 2. line were you attacking 2. How far do you think our men got 7. 3. On which side of the crest were they 7. 4. In what sort of strength were the Germans holding their trenches 7. What Regiment and Battalion did 5. they belong to 7, Was there much rifle fire 6. or chiefly machine guns 7. Did you spot any machine gun To positions 7. Where 2. State of German trenches 7. 8. Hew deep:: Any bombing blocks 2. Dug-outs - deep 7 9. Number and positions 7. In what direction do the entrances face 7. Any wire 7. 10. What colour rockets did they 11. send up when you attacked 7. Was our preliminar: 12. bombardment gcod 7. Did the Germans put 13. up much of a barrage 7. When did it start 7. 14. Any isolated enemy strong posts 2. 15. e
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4) Of the 4 iron ^meals rations carried, one may be eaten a warm
meals is to be ready↑ of 5th 10. am. ←on the morning
5/. Point of assembly for ^all the stragglers or relieved parts of the
Bn. at the Cr. Park, Waterdamhoek, where Lt d. R. Sohmeling
has will established a permanent guard and see to the the
guidance into Billets. New Billets must be allowed for
for the 5th/10.
Dress. Storm-dress as verbally ordered - if possible every
man big spades with shortened handles, steel helmets with
sandbags coverings.
Bearer troops (starting) of the companies only steel helmet
& haversack with Rations.
6/ The proportion of bearer troops for L & H H. ^light & heavy MGs during the

battle will not be altered by above orders. The Battle bearer carrier
troops likewise with steel helmets ^storm-dress and bayonets ^weapons ^arms - Coys. may
eventually count upon the passing ^assistance from men of the 2 M.W. Abty
as assist temporary carriers.- At the latest inst men
of the M.W. must be dismissed for to withdraw sick at the

latest from the point of assembly & where they are on service

along disposal, otherwise in case the 2nd. M.D.A. should be 
delayed.
7.  It is to be remembered to take 1 signalwerfer (signal thrower) for
the company, the Light pistols, Rocket pistols, wire cutters
Signalo horns (no Drums) Rockets, a flight aeroplane
cloths & hand granades. (Newspapers instead of flying ^aeroplane cloths.)

 

8/. It is to be remembered to carry writing utensils for company &
platoon leader, also blue & Red pencils, a compass (very
important!)
9/ Any prisoners or booty to be despatched with the smallest
escort to K.J.K front line H.Q.
10/. Any doubts to be at once brought under notice. — 
11/. Coy. leader Lt Sohmeling Vz fdw. Muller to appear at
Bn H.Q. today at 9 o/c in this evening at a conference.—

 

9/. The points at which ^either the 7th coy or 5th coys are to break thro'
are the group of trees in the enemy sector about 200 or
400 m. south of point 715. Ordinary compass bearing
exactly SW.
10/. The reserve-coys are to follow closely and to assist in the
breaking thro' by the II Battn. by every ^possible means. For 11/212
it may be necessary, according to circumstances to launch concentrate
an attack against advanced enemy positions between
Pond and "? Hedge", or also, in case of an enemy
flanking movement from the North, an attack in a
another direction, thereabouts about on the a platoon front brickfield (1000
m. North. 715.) especially if the adjoining coy. 7/212 south
does not move forward far enough ^correspondingly south of the front. -
For the 12/212 circumstances may bring into guestion the
necessity of wheeling against the South-East on the northern - 
most farm building of Molenaerlesthoek. -
11/. The last reserve Group must be absolutely determined upon the put in to 
gain the objective.- Nevertheless is it all the more all
the more there work Nevertheless since in spite of possible-slowed expected mingling of
units, a new formation reforming after the ^successful attack has been will be
launched necessary.
12/ Should the attack not completely succeed, under on no
account is ground to be given way. The ground won must
be held at all costs.

 

13/. Dressing stations are notified:
a) on the Moorsleede. Broodseinde Rd 
(I) in the quarry 400 m. east of Wegerterberg cavalry crossroad Broodseinde
(2) in the same street road 1500 m. farther on east of cavalry cross road
near Droegenbroodhoek.
(3) in the same street road at Moorsleede.
by (1)  At B.T.K (Jagerlager I on the reaching in approach road of the Bn.) 

about 200 m north of the cavalry crossroad Indesatr. -
(2) Further than the known dressing station in Waterdamhoek 

on the road to Moorsleede.
14/ Medical NCOs & stretcher bearers will accompany the Coys.
The 5 Coy will have detailed to it an extra stretcher-
bearer-patrol of 4 men from the Sanit'ots Coy 527.-
a spen at further patrols will be at hand at B.T.K Mitte. -
From previous experience the English respect the Red Coss
flag. Full use is therefore to be made of it to relieve withdraw the
wounded during a lull in the fighting.- No wounded
man should remain lying in the front line during at
time of a relief. -
15/.  The relief of the Bns will take place, in case of no counter-
order being having been given, during the night of 4th - 5th
X by the 5th Gd Regt Zn Fuss. The coys may without further
advice return to Waterdamhoek, if they have been relieved
by Coys of the 5 G.R.Z.F. No troops, no man, may
return until he has been relieved. — Non-relieved
parties must under all circumstances carry on —

 

16/. Any doubts to be at once brought to notice — 
17/. In regard to equipment, rationing, march special written
or verbal order will be promulgated.
18. During the night of 4/5 X at 12 o/c the KTK of the 5

GRZF will take over the command. -
(Sgd)
Major & Bn Commander.

 

4-10-17   - 3a -      No. 30
72nd I.R.
Was sent into the line last night and relieved the 92nd R.I.R.
in the support line,
Dispositions. The 2nd Bn. of the 72nd I.R. relieved the 92nd
R.I.R. in the front line at 3 a.m. this morning. 1st and 3rd Bns.
were in support
Drafts. The whole of the 8th Divisional Recruit Depot, amounting 

to 160 men of the 1917 class, was drafted to the 72nd I.R. on
the 2nd October.
210th R.I.R.
Previously held the sector south of ZONNBEKE. Prisoner was
detailed as observer for duty in the sector held by the 93rd
R.I.R. and 212th R.I.R.
Dispositions. The 45th Res. Divn. is still the STOSS Division.
The 211th R.I.R. was in shell holes to the rear.
INTERROGATION of Prisoner, belonging to the 221st F.A.R.,
(Officer Aspirant).
The Regiment came into the line from rest at TOURMAI on the
26th September for our sttack,
Position of Battery. Prisoner’s battery -- a 10. 5cm. How.
is in position at E 7.b.2.6. The battery had 4 guns in the open,
no camouflage or pits, the men sleeping in elephant shelters by the
guns. These guns are of old type.
Casualties. In the battery had been great, and though prisonor 

would not give any figures, he admitted he was the only officer
left in his battery.
TRANSLATION of Regimental order of the 5th Guard Grenadier
Regt., captured in to-day's attack.
5th Guard Grenadier Regiment.  Regimental Battle H.Q.
8 p.m., 2-10-17.
REGIMENTAL ORDER
1. The operation "Hohensturm" (Hill Attack) is postponed to 4-10-17. A1l
orders come into operation on 4.10.17, failing alterations and amendments.
2. On the 3-10-17, as soon as the dawn permits, relief of front
line is to take place. F. Battalion will relieve I. Battalion;
I. Battalion then relieves II. Battalion; II. Battalion, after being
relieved, will garrison the sectors 9 - 12. Times and other details 

to be arranged between battalions. The relief must be complete 

by 12 midnight.
Proposed disposition and strengths to be reported by 12 noon on
3-10--17.
Complete relief to be reported by code word for "FRelief Complete.
The M.G. Coy, will relieve on the following night.
3. After the lst Bn. of 212th R.I.R. has marched through on 3/4th,
the H.Q. of 2nd Bn., 5th Gd. Gren. Regt, and 2 companies may return
to the "Alarm" quarters in the N. W. portion of MOORSLEDE,
4.  On completion of relief, 2nd Bn. will detail 6 guides for the
companies of 1st Bn., 212th R.I.R., who will guide the various detachments 

of the newly arrived companies into their support positions.
Only reliable men are to be employed.
5. In the mid-day report it will be satated whether hot or cold meals
were supplied during the previous night.
(sgd) SCHLEINITZ.

 

Wire from  4th Guard Inf Div. 2
Octr 2. '17
As the attack yesterday by the 210 RIR failed on
the right flank - the attack of the 3rd Oct. will not
intend Southwards beyond the concrete position 200 m north of HAVSKATHE.
The line south of this will remain unchanged.
Elements of the 3rd Bn 212 RIR which will be thus released,
will be launched as second attacking wave behind the 2nd Bn
of the 212 RIR under order of the C.O. 212 R.I.R.

Signed V Ludovitz

 

FOR WOUNDED OFFICERS AND N.C.Os. AND. OTHERS
RETURNING FROM THE FIRING LINE DURING AN
ATTACK.
Any information concerning the enemy and his defences etc.
which you may have found out during the attack in which you were
wounded, would be of the greatest value to those who have to carry
on the attack.
Will you please answer as many of the following questions
as you can:-
1.  What is your unit?
Where were you when you got wounded?
At what time?
2.  What portion of the German
line were you attacking?
3. How far do you think our men got?
On which side of the crest were they?
4. In what sort of strength were the
Germans holding their trenches?
5. What Regiment and Battalion did
they belong to?
6. Was there much rifle fire
or chiefly machine guns?
7. Did you spot any machine gun
positions?  Where?
8. State of German trenches?
How deep?
Any bombing blocks?
9. Dug-outs - deep?
Number and positions?
In what direction do the
entrances face?
10. Any wire?
11. What colour rockets did they
send up when you attacked?
12. Was our preliminary
bombardment good?
13. Did the Germans put
up much of a barrage?
14. When did it start?
15. Any isolated enemy strong posts?

 

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