Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/270 PART 3/1 - 1918 - 1939 - Part 5

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First World War, 1914–18
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  • Documents and letters
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Awaiting approval
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RCDIG1066670
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1130 -4- hit by Sergeant Popkin's shooting, as he was unsteady from the moment at that first burst of fire. The airman's body was afterwards taken in charge by officers of the A.F.C. and the wrecked plane salvaged by them after dark.
Wynfield Chidlow 15 West Australia. Jan 23r, 1930 Captain Bean War Records Dept Dear Sir of abort time ggo I cead a phacagraph in the Sunday Times, with stating you wished to hear from anyone who saw the fight in which Bawon Rightoben the Gelman auman was killed I did not intend to enter into any controversa regarding this but after reading the most account inaccuate given by Mr Floyd Gibbons my his book The Red Knight of Gumany decided to write and state exactly what I saw. I was an observer attached to the 11th Brigade H.S and had an observation post on the high ridge on the North of the Comme near the bend in the now, close to the Bray-Corbie road, There was a wood gan along from the road along the ridge for a
113/a short distance, and my O.P. was near the eastyn yd of the wood. The hill side was very steep from the nver and about 250 feet high to the O.P, and there was a machine gun crew (Masim, stationed at the bottowa. almost staight below where was. Reliven the Deaphis Cucis and our plans The fighy stanted near Pailly-l Sic, and was watching it for some time, I saw one machine brought down, gudl then my attantion was taken off them to have a wook over the yerman lng about sailly Lamette. Whitse watching noticed the sound of planes coming ooking a neare anid wored out along the Somnre saw the two, planes coming down the walley at a very ow altitude, Captain Buwn's plane in the lead and Vou Richtofin in his redy triplane close behind him. They came along on a level with the CP and ammost straight over the machine gun ciew, & got ing rifle ready and had a shot at the ingine of Vou Richtofu's plane as he went past, not a handied yorh behind Captain Brown and on a level with him he was se close behind, that the Lot machine guner
1316 apened o up as soon as Captain Brown had passed (when I was speaking to the gunner, afterwards he said they were so close together that he could not fine at Richtofin watil Captain, Brown had passes) I thought the gunner had got him as he gave a swerve to the right when the gunner opened on him, but he straightened out again and went on after the English pranc. saw, hon cross the Bray - Corbie road and heard the Lewis guns from the Batteres firing he then were out of my sight behind the Wood. We must have turned fo the right when he crossed the road, as he had gone in a sime-cude round the wood over the valley West on the, other side of the Bray Corbic Road and back to crash on the eastern side of the rad and close to it between the wood and a brickworks, about a quarter of a wile futher along the road. I heard the machine crash but did not see it, I could not leave my CR to go over to it at once, but a few mmutes afterwards the Brigade J.O. came and asked me to go over with him to by and obtain
131C adontification, when we anwed over to the maghine Vou Richtofen had been liftel oul, went over him to find something to edentify him, there were no papers at all on him and no identity disc, I took a grey silk nuckerched from round, his neck with initeat on it, also a white han dkercheif from his pocket with mitcals, the man article for idontification was a watch I took from his pocket engraved with the German ois and mitials, I believe it had been presented to him by the Rasser The Intelligence Officer took the articles with him, he said they would have to go to Divisional H.R. I have seen several statements as to his wounds, I saw them whitst going over him. One wound was on the left jaw the ballet had near steckin entered under the gaw, crose to the faw bone and come come out again over the jaw bone only about an such and a half from where it entered, this wound,I positively believe was caused by the sgt Machine gunner firing from almos straight ander him and caused him to swerve. " 1
131d a We alo had wounds across his chest did not notice the exact place where the bullets had come out from those Hy had one hut that would bive killed him wven if the bullets had not, and that was his nick was byoteon, I amember this quite will because, his head wolled about, so much when I sat him up, that fett at it, and you could almost turn hid pear right ground an suprised this has not been monhored before, as it would give the lic to the statement that he was shot after he landed teos neck most have been broken when he crashed as his machine was smashed almost to pieces Another thing I have not seen mentioned is, that his mugchine cashed up against one of those heaps of mangets or beets that the French faimess have in their sulp, stacked and covered with earth. he Inrelligence Officer them with the 11t Bugade was named either scent F letcher or Fraser for get which, of you as could
82 136 find him he wuld tell ypu about the searching and the wounds. ofter the search we went down to see the sgt Machine gunner to tell, him who the anman was, as it was thought he might have brought him down, the gunner's name was rather an unasual one, do not remember it now. It is claimed that Captain Brown brought down the arman, fail to see how he could have done, so as he was not firing at all, he had his back to the following machine and was going all out, he would have had to tum right around to fine, I consider that would have been danguous for him flying at such a low altitude and at high spad where there were trees, and a high bank just in front of him. I could not see the Lawes gunners from where was, but from reports I saw afterwards I think they have, the bost claim to have brought Rieptofin down. I hope this letter will be of use to you and help to settle of the contaovasy over Yours Fgettifully Richtofens death G Sowahatt 600
132 Kia Ora. Cooper Street. Dec 9 1929 Cootamundra. Dear Charlie I read in the September & October copies of Revielle that you were trying to obtain further evidence with regard to the death of Baronson Richthopen. Memory is a fickte thing - mire at any rate but the following "chee may be worth pllowing up. On the night that he was killed (April 21s 1918.) it is my belief that Colonel Baiber, H.P.M.S. 4 Aust. Dwv. said in the mess that he, or one of his MOs, had examined the bolly of the auman, and that there were 40r 5 bulled wounds, the point 9 enty of which was the anterior part of the chest, and the point o exit at the back of the neck & shouldees. This wedence ifit could be confirmed would prove conclusively that he was shot from in front and from below on the ground. It would appear that a machene gunner, with a Vickees or a Lewves, had caught him with a luest fire. I have just returned from Hobact, where I went for a two weeks visit to see Mater, and on the
1322 Kia Ora. Cooper Street. 192 Cootamundra. way through Melbowine, both going & comin spent several enjoyable hours cenwery ofd General Badber, Colone1 acquaintancedess - Mills, Col. Laverach, Col. Whitham, Mayor Steeke ets. Unfortunately I did not get my copies I Reveille unto my return, and so did not ask general Baiber if my memory was at fault Would you tike me to write to him, or will you do so? & also spent three quarters of an hour with General White at the New Zealand Loan office, and if your ears did not beern dovny most that period, there is nothing in that legered. I simply could not perociade the general to say one adveise thing about you - not that I tried very haid. I have had several couteous letters from MKeloar asher for photo films, dearies etc. These I reidey In the first place We have have not answered. been up to onr necke takeng over a practice (Dr Mason &I bought out the late D Brennan) and secondly I did not have anytheny to send him, as what had was in Hobart.
5 1326 Kia Cra. Cooper Street. Cootamunitra. 132 While in Taomania, I went through a laye drawer fitted with old letters, mape & sonvencis, and as soon as I can Lurl send any to him that may be I use. - I do not know that anytheng will be but am only too glad to help & let him decide. In the young keen platoon commander days I kept a breef record I every man in the platoon I do not suppose that sort of thing would be any good, or company rolls its would they? Then there is another idea I wish to discuss with you with regard to the Memorial at Canberra, but I have taken up too much of your valuable time with this screed atready. How is Mrs Beau will you please give her my kned regards, and also Cootamundra is not far from Canberra, and at any time you are viciting the Pedecal Capital, Marion and I would be delighted to put you up, one or both, for as long a visit as you can space no Arthur arrives from Malay by the Marella about Dec 23 Bobbee (Bridges), his wife, and family have been staying in Hobact with Nater for Smonths. When she acrived theree but the son shew, Bill has sunce she had two daughters peet in his appeacance.

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hit by Sergeant Popkin's shooting, as he was unsteady from the
moment at that first burst of fire.
The airman's body was afterwards taken in charge by
officers of the A.F.C. and the wrecked plane salvaged by them
after dark.
 

 

[*Acknowledged*]
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“Wynfield”
Chidlow
West Australia.
Jan 23RD 1930

Captain Bean
War Records Dept
Dear Sir
A short time ago I read
a paragraph in the “Sunday Times,” Perth
stating you wished to hear from anyone
who saw the fight in which Baron
Richtofen the German airman was killed
I did not intend to enter into any controversy
regarding this but after reading the most
inaccurate ^account given by Mr Floyd Gibbons
in his book “The Red Knight of Germany”
I decided to write and state exactly what
I saw.
I was an observer attached to the 11th Brigade
H.Q and had an observation post on the
high ridge on the North of the Somme
near the bend in the river close to the
Bray-Corbie road, there was a wood ran
along from the road along the ridge for a
 

 

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short distance, and my O.P. was near the
eastern end of the wood.
The hill side was very steep from the river
and about 250 feet high to the O.P., and
there was a machine gun crew (Maxim)
stationed at the bottom. almost straight below
where I was.
The fight ^they were the "The Deaths Circus" and our planes started near Sailly-le Sic, and
 I was watching it for some time, I saw one
machine brought down, and then my attention was
taken off them to have a look over the
German lines about Sailly Lamette. Whilst
watching noticed the sound of planes coming
a nearer once looked looking out along the Somme
saw the two planes coming down the valley
at a very low altitude, Captain Brown's plane
in the lead and Von Richtofen in his
red triplane close behind him.
They came along on a level with the OP
and almost straight over the machine gun crew,
I got my rifle ready and had a shot at
the engine of Von Richtofen's plane as he went
past, not a hundred yards behind Captain
Brown and on a level with him he was
so close behind, that the Sgt machine gunner
 

 

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opened o up as soon as Captain Brown
had passed (when I was speaking to the
gunner, afterwards he said they were so close
together that he could not fire at Richtofen
until Captain Brown had passed.)
I thought the gunner had got him as he
gave a swerve to the right when the gunner
opened on him, but he straightened out again
and went on after the English plane.
I saw him cross the Bray-Corbie Road
and heard the Lewis guns from the Batterys
firing he then went out of my sight behind
the wood.
He must have turned to the right when he
crossed the road, as he had gone in a
semi-circle round the wood over the valley
on the other West side of the Bray Corbie Road
and back to crash on the eastern side of
the road and close to it between the wood
and a brickworks about a quarter of a wile
further along the road.
I heard the machine crash but did not
see it, I could not leave my OP to go over
to it at once, but a few minutes afterwards
the Brigade I.O. came and asked me
to go over with him to hq and obtain
 

 

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 dentification, when we arrived over to the
machine Von Richtofen had been lifted out,
I went over him to find something to identify
him, there were no papers at all on him and
[*Any papers found must
have been taken from him
before the search*]
no identity disc, I took a grey silk neckerchief
from round his neck with initials on it, also
a white handkercheif from his pocket, with
initials, the main article for identification
was a watch I took from his pocket engraved
with the German Arms and initials, I believe
it had been presented to him by the Kaiser
The Intelligence Officer took the articles
with him, he said they would have to
go to Divisional H.Q.
I have seen several statements as to his wounds,
I saw them whilst going over him.
One wound was on the left jaw the bullet had
entered under the jaw, ^ near the chin close to the jaw bone and come
come out again over the jaw bone only about an
inch and a half from where it entered, this
wound, I positively believe was caused by
the Sgt Machine gunner firing from almost
straight under him and caused him to
swerve:
 

 

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He also had wounds across his chest,
I did not notice the exact place where
the bullets had come out from these
He had one hurt that would have Killed
him even if the bullets had not, and
that was his neck was broken, I remember
this quite will because, his head rolled
about, so much when I sat him up, that
I felt at it, and you could almost turn
his head right around
I am surprised this has not been mentioned
before, as it would give the lie to the
statement that he was shot after he
landed.
He His neck must have been broken when he crashed
as his machine was smashed almost to
pieces
Another thing I have not seen mentioned
is, that his machine crashed up against
one of those heaps of mangets or beets
that the French farmers have in their
fields, stacked and covered with earth.
The Intelligence Officer then with the
11th Brigade was named either scent Leiut Fletcher
or Fraser I forget which, if you as could
 

 

 

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find him he would tell you about the
searching and the wounds.
After the search we went down to see
the Sgt Machine gunner to tell him who
the airman was, as it was thought he
might have brought him down, the gunners'
name was rather an unusual one, do not
remember it now.
It is claimed that Captain Brown brought
down the airman, I fail to see how he
could have done so, as he was not firing at
all, he had his back to the following machine
and was going all out, he would have had to
turn right around to fire, I consider that
would have been dangerous for him flying
at such a low altitude and at high speed
where there were trees, and a high bank just
in front of him.
I could not see the Lewis gunners from where I
was, but from reports I saw afterwards I think
they have, the best claim to have brought
Richtofen down.
I hope this letter will be of use to you
and help to settle of the controversy over
Richtofens' death Yours Faithfully
G Sowerbutts
 [*5194 G. SOWERBUTTS (M.M.)
4TH BATT A.I.F.*]

 

 

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"Kia Ora,"
Cooper Street,
Cootamundra,   Dec 9 1929
Dear Charlie.
I read in the September & October copies
of Reveille that you were trying to obtain further
evidence with regard to the death of Baron von
Richthofen.
Memory is a fickle thing - mine at any rate -
but the following "clue" may be worth following up.
On the night that he was killed (April 21st 1918.)
it is my belief that Colonel Barber, A.D.M.S. 4 "Aust. Div.
said in the mess that he, or one of his M.O.'s, had
examined the body of the airman, and that there
were 4 or 5 bullet wounds, the point of entry of
which was the anterior part of the chest, and the
point of exit at the back of the neck & shoulders.
This evidence if it could be confirmed would
prove conclusively that he was shot from in front,
and from below on the ground.
It would appear that a machine gunner, with a
Vickers or a Lewis, had caught him with a burst of
fire.
I have just returned from Hobart, where I went
for a two weeks visit to see Mater, and on the
 

 

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"Kia Ora,"
Cooper Street,
Cootamundra,   . . . . . 192 . .
way through Melbourne, both going & coming,
spent several enjoyable hours renewing old
acquaintanceships - General Barber, Colone1
Mills, Col. Laverach, Col. Whithaus, Mayor Steele etc.
Unfortunately I did not get my copies of Reveille
until my return, and so did not ask General Barber
if my memory was at fault
Would you like me to write to him, or will you
do so?
I also spent three quarters of an hour with
General White at the New Zealand Loan office, and
if your ears did not burn during most of
that period, there is nothing in that legend.
I simply could not persuade the General to say
one adverse thing about you - not that I
tried very hard!
I have had several courteous letters from Mr Treloar
asking for photo films, diaries etc. These I rudely
have not answered. In the first place we have
been "up to our necks" taking over a practice (Dr Mason
& I bought out the late Dr Brennan) and secondly
I did not have anything to send him, as what I
had was in Hobart.
 

 

 

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"Kia Ora,"
Cooper Street,
Cootamundra,   . . . . . 192 . .
While in Tasmania, I went through a large drawer
filled with old letters, maps & souveneirs, and as
soon as I can I will send any to him that may
be of use. - I do not know that anything will be,
but am only too glad to help & let him decide.
In the young keen platoon commander days I
kept a brief record of every man in the platoon,
I do not suppose that sort of thing would be any
good, or company rolls etc would they?
Then there is another idea I wish to discuss with
you with regard to the Memorial at Canberra, but
I have taken up too much of your valuable time
with this screed already.
How is Mrs Bean, will you please give her my
kind regards, and also Cootamundra is not far
from Canberra, and if at any time you are
visiting the Federal Capital, Marion and I would
be delighted to put you up, one or both, for as
long a visit as you can spare us.
Arthur arrives from Malay by the Marella about Dec 23:
Bobbie (Bridges), his wife, and family have been staying in
Hobart with Mater for 8 months. When she arrived there
she had two daughters, but the son & Heir, Bill, has since
put in his appearance.
 [*with kind regards,
Yours Sincerely
Duncan.*]

 
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