Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/94/1 - November - December 1917 - Part 7

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74 from our Bourlon Salient. onto a aue already prepared The Devins had calreed out thenr first retirement last night the ough a line of outoats. T ferman had fllowed quc today, aldo we had left. the same srt of antomatio Juns & booky tans as att saluao. we acered ain a swetth across part of the Hindenbury ling & Nof Haveincoursced hold of Hindinburg Supporthing Of course thi dews o a geat blow. But it may win our Referendum if Any lett te trut the correspts have be trying to indicate t as far as they could in this fighting 3 Kings It seems to went wrong. 18r _ tere were not agh troops teking the break 2
through - no reserves. n SM Corps Bench were not uset – were told they aa not be wanted. 2nd the tavaly during the all important hours of the first morning were held back in vervousness as to taken Hisquieres not being to all I country around it was. 5id th Crps (where the 9 went to find our the tn Dion, as catelet) tolds to S. of the aback th 55a Dey had cn from Oat 5.d o it & 6n the 12 13) were holding 20,000 yds of fonas the cow flies - proby 26,000 by the time chself. I. 1or worned Carmy, & the next t corps. of the 29th Deon
76 fer and were concentration gans were hnged ar. Thin, 3 day last (Nov 30a)) the fermans uddenly pushes thro this miserably weak line & p Achin 29t Dion & reached its att On in Jougean firet at San De Lisle got away they were having breakfist. He ran & escaped, his CRA ws hit thros foot & captured- receptured Cater apparently; & the o killer And Clerks & papers were taken - a byjest houl formans ever had from British culy 2 Dive artitleris were 2() henvy battereed The corps. of the behind the one battery Anchalian heavees
77 hed gans its to blow up lase tren cpers 400 Gda away Cound just Our Ct Divn ae in1420 1 dark at moveng Sa Maclagan Hante Allaine hoping still to it need not. to be used. That od make he a lot of diferene thites a PReferendum if a of they are are not put in it sands thanks be put in chance. little Back to Amiens to dimnes. We agree more or less, Phellip Gebbo & Lus &I H our clear pobicy is to hold on, if all can, & repuse to negotiate until german form of goot gives some guarante o its promises being observed. That a
78 wood vow wilson's policy as far as one can read it I we hold to to1 German people will surely see to we are carnest & determined will come to conviction to they mast have a hand in making of peace temselves if it s to be arrived at - And o we sall get a dlemocratic farmany whremoveone to peace o great menace world Hotl du Cla ta at stay ti went up to the 7t toys Dec found a very countious & kind pair of R.S. oficers who found for me where the 55a Bty was. They had blown up te guns & were collected at the Siege Park a gove across) to Agiecourt le Hant - where the Siege Park football ground 15. Down by the
79 near road, on wh were a number of dishevelled tooking gin saved from the wreck) ws a guap hats around of men in Australian one who ws flinging two pennies of a kip – two up A seyt. & andthuwr N.C.O. were standing bey them They directed me to a kitchen where was a very steepy tired out cook - a decent looking chap but played out, somehow There were three empty whicky botthes by him probably from the officers mess in a little patche up miserably small but next door. Somehow Imen all seemed to we very depressed - they must have bee tnough something more tryng than one realises- a scramble for their lives, running for miles after holding on long after
80 the provisional order to blow upI guas had be given. One officer hoke of of heart failure on & retreat - they were scattered all over (place; but of 41 messing all except one turned up. That man wa a splended chap a segnater. yet where Ive dont know he co comment of the day &nd hour The to cavalry messed is here one o1chances owar after waiting for it for 4 years. We med a brygade of cavatry brothing down 1road through1 long long desolate moortend wh as last year the Somme Battlefield. The somme is all grey & brown to a very little yellow green tobacco Stann on 1 grass, this time of year; one
81 tweloemouth has be end 6o transform it from a brown mud wilderness into a great woorland. and I cavalry trothing down road seemed as stern and sadas the scenery. Their faces were rather Sct & I bought they looked selfin conscious + were feeling that they les had missed the chance for them. Hey blame trunselves poor we have come chaps. You know, objectives of to think of timited the nex hill & the next mound of eart instead of the honrzon & the wide plain. Also thy have sent a number of their best officers into the infantry & the Staff & obtained infantry officers who applied for cavalry jobs. Their staff is very has been little Senior as there pomotion among them. then And so on Nov. 20t
82 theinfantry & tankes passed Fesquieres on either side & the cavalry was standing in massed just a mile or two away from it, waiting to go through – when Phelip gible o others walked over hil past Flesquieres t impinity just because there were still a ferman Major in Fesquieres with three or four maching guns & four the field juus still unreduced. caval was held back by order from some Caoatry Geveral. The Canadian savatry disobeyed orders I went throw & some of the British followed; & they are so by Serman prisoners to have got cuts Cambrag or Cambrar Station Cavabry The had orders to go beyond Cambray to certain points on the roads & rilways &
her wa wat W ar 84 break them apas complete. as they could If any ot the Cambrai, they The British Cavalry - tho stayed famous regiments with florious names tipl the Greegs whom we wel trothing with their horses half covered in yellow mad down the Straight Roman Road across that brown moorland they were held resitatin 203 all important hour for of the chance was gorg. wet from Bates Batter who arevery done up - to the 68a Squadson A.F.C. at Baizienx Oswald wall, their major, was away lectaring the Army HtArs at Albert to 200 offer & ncos on the cooperati of aircrap & infanlyy. Lible Turner. their adjt persunded me to stay watt had from his the night. off in Amiens youapters a night

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from our Bourlon salient,
on to a line already prepared
The Divns had carried out their
first retirement last night, 
through a line of outposts.
The German had followed quickly
today, altho' we had left
the same sort of automatic guns
& booby traps as at Gallipoli.
We were digging in a switch
across part of the Hindenburg
line, & N of Havrincourt wd
hold / Hindenburg Support line.
Of course this news is a
great blow. But it may win
our Referendum if they tell the truth.
The Correspts. have bn trying to
indicate lff / truth as far as they could
in this fighting.
It seems tt 3 things
went wrong.
1st - there were not
enough troops behind the break
 

 

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through - no reserves. The
French ^5th Corps were not used - were
told they wd not be wanted.
2nd - the Cavalry during
the all important hours of
the first morning were held
back in nervousness as to
Hesquieres not being taken
tho all / country around
it was.
3rd - The 7th Corps (where I
went to find our 4th Divn, at
Catelet) told us tt S. of the
attack the 55th Divn had
bn in from Oct 3rd; & it &
the 12th (?) were holding
20,000 yds of front as 
the crow flies - probly 26000
by the line itself. The 7 Corps
warned / army, &  the next
Corps, & the 29th Divn tt /
 

 

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Germans were concentrating
guns - & were laughed at.
Then, Friday last (Now 30th?)
the Germans suddenly pushed
thro this miserably weak line
& got behind 29th Divn &
reached its ^advd tt [[?]] in Fouzeaucourt.
Gen De Lisle got away - fired at,
- they were having breakfast.
Hq ran & escaped; his CRA
ws hit thro / foot & captured - &
recaptured later apparently; &

the GSO killed. All clerks &
papers were taken - the biggest
haul / Germans ever had from
/ British.
Only 2 Divl artilleries
& 2 (?) heavy batteries were
behind the 7th Corps. Of the
Australian heavies one battery
 

 

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had to blow up its guns
& leave then w / Germs 400 
yds away!
Our 4th Divn we found just
moving in thro / dark at
Haute Allaine. Gen Maclagan
is hoping still tt it need not
be used. That wd make, he 
thinks, a lot of difference
w / Referendum - if they
are not put in. If they are
put in he thinks it stands
little chance.
Back to Amiens to dinner,
We agree, more or less, Phillip
Gibbs & Louis & I, tt our clear 
priority is to hold on, if all
can, & refuse to negotiate
until / German form of Govt
gives some guarantee xxx of its
promises being observed. That is
 

 

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Woodrow Wilson's policy
as afr as one can read it.
If we hold to tt, / German

people will surely see tt we
are earnest & determined &
will come to / conviction tt
they must have a hand in
/ making of peace themselves
if it is to be arrived at - And
so we shall get a democratic
Germany, wh ^wd remove / one
great menace to / peace o / 
world.
Staying at the Hotel du Rhin.


Nov Dec .7. Went up to the 7th Corps
& found a very courteous & kindly
pair of R.A Officers who found
for me where the 55th Bty was. They had
blown up their guns & were collected at the
Siege Park - Drove across to Agiecourt
le Haut - where the Siege Park
is. Down by the football ground,
 

 

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near / road, on wh were a
number of dishevelled looking guns
saved from the wreck, ws a group
of men in Australian hats around
one who ws flinging two pennies
off a kip - "two up". A sergt.
& another N C.O. were standing by them.
They directed me to a kitchen
where there was a very sleepy tired
out cook - a decent looking
chap but played out, somehow.
There were three empty whisky
bottles by him probably from
the officers mess in a little patched
up miserably small hut
next door. Somehow / men
all seemed to be very
depressed - they must have been
through something more trying
than one realises - a scramble
for their lives, running for miles
after holding on long after xxxx
 

 

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the provisional order to blow
up / guns had bn given. One
officer [[?]] up of heart failure
on tt retreat - they were
scattered all over / place; but
of 41 missing all except one
turned up. That man ws a
splendid chap - a signaller.
They don't know yet where
he is.
The comment of the day & hour
here is tt / Cavalry missed
one o / chance o / war after
waiting for it for 4 years.
We met a brigade of cavalry
trotting down / road through /
long long desolate moorland
wh ws last year the Somme
Battlefield. The Somme is al
grey & brown w a very little
yellow green tobacco stain in /
grass, this time of year; one
 

 

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twelvemonth has bn eno" to
transform it from a brown mud
wilderness into a great moorland.
And / cavalry trotting down /
road seemed as stern and sad as
the scenery. Their faces were rather
set & I thought they looked self-
conscious & were feeling that they
had missed the xxxxx [[?]] chance for
them.
They blame themselves poor
chaps. "You know, we have come
to think of limited objectives, of
the next hill & the next mound of
earth instead of the horizon & the 
wide plain." Also they have sent
a number of their best officers into
the infantry & the staff & obtained
infantry officers who applied for
cavalry jobs. Their staff is very
senior as there has been little
promotion among them.
And so on No. 20th when
 

 

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the xx infantry & tanks passed
Flesquières on either side, xxx
& the cavalry was standing in masses
just a mile or two away from it,
waiting to go through - when Phillip
Gibbs & others walked over / hill
past Flesquieres w impunity -
just because there were still a German
Major in Flesquieres with three
or four machine guns & four
fieldpieces, still unreduced, the
cavalry was held back bu order
from some cavalry General.
The Canadian cavalry
disobeyed orders & went through
& some of the British followed;
& they are sd by German
prisoners to have got into
Cambrai or Cambrai station.
The ^Cavalry had orders to go beyond
Cambrai to certain points on
the road & railways &
 

 

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1. Walkers [[?]]
2. Watts [[?]]
3. An [[avenue?]].

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break them up as completely
as they could.
If any got to Cambrai, they
stayed. The British Cavalry - the
famous regiments with glorious
names like the Greys whom
we met trotting with their horses
half covered in yellow mud
down the straight Roman road
across that brown moorland -
they were held hesitating
for 2 or 3 all important hours
- & the chance was gone.
I went from Bates' Battery
- who are very done up - to the
68th squadron A.F.C. at Baizieux
Oswald Watt, their major, was away,
lecturing at the Army HQrs at Albert
to 200 offrs & N C Os on the cooperatn
of aircraft & infantry. Little Turner,
their adjt., persuaded me to stay
the night. Watt had given his
youngsters a night off in Amiens.
 



 

 






 

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