Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/252/1 - 1918 - 1935 - Part 6

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64 certanially badly exfeladed during most of the day by rifle pere from Gutzes facor, but we did not with draw to the nee line until most of my platoon had been either killed or wounded. It was like in the afternoon; about dusk asfas as I am remember. I can verify that part of your extract dealing with Corporal I wacy & statemen. For a while I was observing from the lop of the ridge in front of my post, but from a position purtheed to the left thay where Turacy was in sulzer faror. I saw the Termarr attacks develope and advance jast as Turvey derviker it, There would however he thes sligh diffirence; the enemy reached my observation post before they arrived at Turveys. When Survey was pering into the massed Termar hanks from Gulzer faim, my platoon was doing the same thing, with riples and theee newes guns. Easly in the morning I look live of these quars and a large number of parniers ready roaded with ammunition from the retuing Brilish boops The 3 Bathalion ristory (page 284) mentions thes incident but wrongy desecher it as a ho & of ammunition I feel celain had my post and
65 Turvey with hir Newis quor at Tutzes fason were the first to make close contact with the advancing Terman; we were what you descrite as nigut Champions advance posts. Hlthough not dealt with in you exctract I night mention one other paint. I understand that in arither account of the hattle it is stated that I was awarded the Military Croses for work at a lates date Thes is not correct, I was warded the decoration for work on the 14 April 1916, the day of the Termad attack on Strazeele If there is any other point on which I may be appoine assistance to you please let ree Know. Yeurs fathfulled, DRHeshor
9845. 22 July 1936. DoR. Desbels, Esge, M.C.y WIANRMSM DeAF Hr. DesbSIS, Many thanks for your statement, which was of considerable help. My account was taken from the divisional records, which said that there was a post in the eld British trenches which bambed and drove out the Germans. I assumed that this was yours, but I now think the divisional account mugt have been mistaken as to the position. I take it that the British trench line was 200 yards in front of your outpost, and that the troops from whom you took the Lewis sums were the Tonmies who had been ordered to withdraw from the previous night. those pesitions through our line during I should be grateful if you would cenfirn this. Yours truly. C.E.W. Beane
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1St Cohy 18t Aust Division - Hagebrouck 1918. Col G7 Wieck From 1218.1st Dirn at Hazebrouer when Week went to the ist Division as C.S.0.2, he says, the ist Bie was much below scratch! Walker told hin that it was then a long way behind the other bdes, and it hed to be grad- ually improved by careful handling before it began to pick up. (Yc Moore -3 Bn- and Stacey of the ist, were good men. Hutchin the pde Major was little use and nuch hampered Lesslic, No doubt). The theory adopted by the 1st Diy was to stand and fight on its outpost line! This was flatly in opposition to the theory of the nonent - that of retiring on a main line of resistance But 7. says that the conditions of the divisions on the Flanks (29 ar 33) were such that if once a line began retifing it was difficult to say when it would stop. (This also was the inpression I received in this state of affeirs at V.Bret. on April 4).
s 363. 16 September 1925. C. J. Prescott Mrs. Newington College, Stanmo Dear Mrs. Prescott, It was only last night that I received your letter enclosing the cutting about your son, Clarence. The volume of the History dealing with the fighting in which that incident occurred is still several years ahead, and I cannot of course, definitely promise either that I shall be here to write it or that any particular incident will be included. have, however, little doubt that this incident will be consider- ed worth telling and, if so, your son's name is practically certain to be connected with it, since the policy, in the history which I am writing, is to identify officers and men with the deeds for which they were responsible. I am sorry that I cannot be more definite but you may rest assured that your son's work and his name will be brought before the writer of that portion of the campaign at the time when it is being written, and his fine action will not be willingly overlooked. Yours sincerely, C.E.W. BEAN
Hemington College, Shammore, Sodner, 1925 June 28th Dear Captam Bean I have often wished to ask you if 7ou could mention the names of our heave soldices who carned distinctions in your instory After to long. it would on the battlefield dot do any rarm, he fe away seceets, & it would be very ratifying to the relatives of those who don these ronours. Our boy. Clarence was mentioned by you in the enclosed cutting, which was in all the Sydney papers & the London Tunes?, & get dis one in days to come wil know who the brave & yoingster was. I hope you dill not think me as a Cover of publicity, for I am far from being t I am person, but when a think of future days. I should like our grandchildren & their children also to know that their ancestors brave action was recognised. It seems to have been the custom to put daies in, after a time. in history. We all felt so pateful to you for driting So splendedly about our son's attack.
P.S. Hewington College, Stanmore, Sydney, 132 All of his fellow officers & men who have become known to us since the war, have told us that his Dr.C. was a most daring & gallant act. & that it did muich towards helping to ariest the dash of the Germans for the parts on the coast, duting that dark & critical hour We are all to know that you have come cafely to anchar after all your hairhreade escapes. Yours sincerely Annne E. Frescott. (Mrs. C. J. Frescott t have the precious cutting I should like back, if possible AS.
Joynts patrol in post of Bullecourr IKight up to ware, along id- b Critcbell & Brn gt Bullioare Meris Ewary thi0. Thyal MaDegin te View Berquen. Ir 1 1 o to couo retreat of Cop 31.40.50 29 Divs lowd Harebsou ef.
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certainally badly enfiladed during most of the day
by rifle fire from Gutzes farm, but we did not
withdraw to the main line until most of my
platoon had been either killed or wounded.   It
was late in the afternoon;  about dusk as far
as I can remember.
I can verify that part of your
extract dealing with Corporal Turveys statement.
For a while I was observing from the top of the
ridge in front of my post, but from a position
further to the left than where Turvey was in
Gutzes farm.   I saw the German attack
develope and advance just as Turvey describes
it.   There would however be this slight difference;
the enemy reached my observation post before
they arrived at Turveys.   When Turvey was
firing into the massed German ranks from
Gutzes farm, my platoon was doing the same
thing, with rifles and three Lewis guns.   Early
in the morning I took two of these guns and
a large number of panniers ready loaded with
ammunition from the retiring British troops.
The 3 Battalion history (page 284) mentions this
incident but wrongly describes it as a box
of ammunition
I feel certain that my post and
 

 

65
Turvey with his Lewis gun at Gutzes farm
were the first to make close contact with the
advancing Germans;  we were what you
describe as Lieut Champions advance posts.
Although not dealt with in your
extract I might mention one other point.
I understand that in another account of this

battle it is stated that I was awarded the
Military Cross for works at a later date.
This is not correct, I was awarded the
decoration for work on the 14 April 1918, the
day of the German attack on Strazeele.
If there is any other point on which
I may be of some assistance to you please
let me know.
Yours faithfully,
D R Desbois

 

9845.
 

22 July 1936.
D. R. Desbois Esq., M.C.,
"Autum",
Muttuma. N.S.W.
Dear Mr. Desbois.,
Many thanks for your statement, which was of
considerable help.  My account was taken from the divisional
records, which said that there was a post in the old British
trenches which bombed and drove out the Germans.   I assumed
that this was yours, but I now think the divisional account
must have been mistaken as to the position.  I take it that
the British trench line was 200 yards in front of your
outpost, and that the troops from whom you took the Lewis
guns were the Tommies who had been ordered to withdraw from
those positions through our line during the previous night.
I should be grateful if you would confirm this.
Yours truly,
C.E.W. Bean.
 

 

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1st Copy
1st Aust Division - Hazebrouck  1918.
From Lt Col G F Wick

1918. 1st Divn at Hazebrouck.  When Wieck went to the 1st Division as G.S.O.1,
he says, the 1st Bde was much below scratch. Walker told him that
it was a long way behind the other bdes, and it had to be gradually
improved by careful handling before it began to pick up. (Yet
Moore -3 Bn - and Stacey of the 1st, were good men.   Hutchin the Bde
Major was little use and much hampered Lesslie, (no doubt).
The theory adopted by the 1st Div was to stand
and fight on its outpost line.  This was flatly in opposition to the
theory of the moment - that of retiring on a main line of resistance.
But W. says that the conditions of the divisions on the flanks (29 &
33) were such that if once a line began retiring it was difficult
to say when it would stop. (This also was the impression I received
in this state of affairs at V.Bret. on April 4).
 

 


[*Historical notes
Battle of Hazebrouck
1918*]
363.
16 September 1925.
Mrs. C. J. Prescott,
Newington College,
Stanmore.
Dear Mrs. Prescott,
It was only last night that I received your
letter enclosing the cutting about your son, Clarence.  The 

volume of the History dealing with the fighting in which that
incident occurred is still several years ahead, and I cannot,
of course, definitely promise either that I shall be here to
write it or that any particular incident will be included.  I
have, however, little doubt that this incident will be considered

worth telling and, if so, your son's name is practically
certain to be connected with it, since the policy, in the
history which I am writing, is to identify officers and men
with the deeds for which they were responsible.
I am sorry that I cannot be more definite,
but you may rest assured that your son's work and his name will
be brought before the writer of that portion of the campaign at
the time when it is being written, and his fine action will not
be willingly overlooked.
Yours sincerely,
C.E.W. BEAN
 

 

Newington College,
Stanmore, Sydney.
June 28th 1925
Dear Captain Bean,
I have often wished
to ask you if you could mention the names
of our brave soldiers who earned distinctions
on the battlefield in your history.   After so long it would
not do any harm, nor give away secrets & it
would be very gratifying to the relatives of those
who won these honours.
Our boy. Clarence was mentioned by you in
the enclosed cutting, which was in all the
Sydney papers & the London  “Times” &
yet no one in days to come will know who
the brave "youngster" was!
I hope you will not think of me as a lover
of publicity, for I am far from being that a
vain person, but then I think of future 
days. I should like our grandchildren
& their children also to know that their
ancestor's brave action was recognised.
It seems to have been the custom to put
names in, after a time. in history.
We all felt so grateful to you for writing
so splendidly about our son's attack.
 

 
 

Newington College,
Stanmore, Sydney,
192
All of his fellow officers & men who have
become known to us since the war, have
told us that his M.C.  was a most daring
& gallant act, & that it did much towards
helping to arrest the dash of the Germans
for the Ports on the coast, during that dark
& critical hour.
We are all glad to know that you have come
safely to anchor after all your hairbreadth
escapes.
Yours sincerely,
Anne E. Prescott.
(Mrs. C. J. Prescott)
P.S. I should like to have the precious cutting
back, if possible
A.E.P. 

 

Joynts patrol in port of Bullecourt
Right up to wire, along, d-
Diagram - see original document 

 

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 Diagram - see original document
 

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