Charles E W Bean, Diaries, AWM38 3DRL 606/132/1 - August - September 1917 - Part 4

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First World War, 1914–18
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8 40 told me to I Sermans had turned outs them very heavily to marning - I had het one dugont -badly wd one man & kilee andthir. Gallett ws talkeng at this time to a sergt outside 1wess room. He joines as as we left. The serft ws a piend of his - a late reinforcement; & the man who ws killed to morning as another - only four days at front; sack a kind five gentle chap, hesd; white haired before his time - a man without the least of a quarrel in him - one who wd not hurd a mosquits if he Edavoid it. be went past Sanctuary wood-
41 thro' it because these woods -all waterplled shellholes & fali trunks & scraps of Stumpy branches + busles are sort of natural eotaylements too difficult to get through gu &one rather dreads what one may meet there, anbuined men or the agly debris of war. We waked soung sast Dorny House (one at Bn H.Q., in full view of Hit 60) & up to a ridge from wh far to our left we ad see green tree geman country tere) & straght abear a brown bare ridge, with as abandoner tank on it, + a stump of a blockhouse or someking which they sd ws stirting castle. We
42 German nomo 43 found the Bod Bly on the front slope of this ridge on the left of track - te track our gans had followed; & some ploughed apground down I dix ahead, & brown ridge on Thonson perheps 800 or pooyds away Tank Stirby a 5 Frence 8/2 3rd Cly & Place where101 How-tean was killed Sarling Castle ws still in posslssion of fermans when our guns cameover.
&g 44 The observation onto them was from there; but the M.S. fire ws inderest fire fom furker tot right tan His sketch shows. we found all the offis of 182nd & 3ed Btys except a couple of the poRty down in a dujont in trulk near the 2ad Bly There as a shell hole abt te yds from 1month of dujont - a byg new one - & two in 1 trench, fair in et near 1 gons. The fermans had bee giving them a dreadful time to day on top of to a month of it. East down there, tast who only 2 woks before
As we went back the Serman's turned 3, or 4 batteries English of 5.95 outo n bettery pocitio near Dormy House which we had passo on way up. This ws Itewes repeated but we shirted well round I left of bombe 46 had bu in a dujout o Maj. Kingsmell & found himself bying on ledge o fcrater of a shell wh blew knyemell out of excstence. Poor chaps - they have had casuatires of infantry & have to stay there week after week & see (wify go in & out again time after time. Therl have them broken if the dont relieve them soon. Ibey say this ought to be kept additional 60 over Strengh, (10 now are authoriied on the A.I.T. &60or 50 Extra to the D.A.E., wh is sometheng to provide reliefs we left old Hurl Jle Wilkins & Dyson - Hurley is gony there right way to get his stuff.
8 47 Wilkins took a picture of place where t batteriy was. As Gullitt & I cme away it started to pour, as beavely as ever I have seen it in France - floods of it. Poor old photopaphers. I hope tey come to no harm. we went to the old Sw Div. H.Q. to dive with Clettack On our way there we picked up Gen. Maclagan and Duncan Maxwell & Kemes- it trn booken down in their car. The gent. had bu to a performance of some concert troape at our No 1 Tanellin Coy. It turned out to he (a the 4 Dion) is now at the Raveloberg, not the Sod Div.; So he asker
Sept 3 & as a matter of fact it wd have come over probty if there had not bu discover what Cl. Keynolds tellsme was in aslonishing? defect in the constructon of planes. one of the pelots is idt have taken & on brernt on I way to coast 49 as to dine instead. They have had ferman places over of recent nights. Sen. Maclagan Says to it is very tryey to hear him up there burring & dronng round. then hear him sheet of his engine: he west be planen down - then wheire where -wir- & you wonder where the bomb is going to fall and - Crash! somewhere about -& the begar as upo offagain Aug 27 more run poor old photographers Our 67M Sgn cannot come over in this weather? all day drawing up a complete scheme for
50 collection + can of trophies photos, sketches iete for submission to White & largely on Gulletts experience. Gullet &I thrasbed it out this morning. We are to breig all the preservation side under our own people. & leave the publicity side to Smart Also a scheme for photos & recordlitles to submit to G.H.Q. arranged with Griffeths who pasper it in an custont for an officer for our trophy. shot -avema section white grasped the scheme also surprising qickhy Saw an one custant the reason for it; & vastt improved it by withdraw the preservation section entirely from the High Commes office + putting 2
4 a 5 y s s of o s A t & 2d &e A set s I at 46 Col & 2 se N.S 7 se N D d 55 5c S 2 100 24 6910 o 51 openly & explcitty under treloar, wh I had not thought he wo do. I am to go to England for a day or two, perh. with fullett, it tra in order to arrange matters w Smart. Grefits will do everytig Else. ISl chief Brygen Jame, seddn of the Rozal Flying Corps, told Brether today that without wishing to britter up Austalians at all he thought it as generally agreed that while all the R.F.C. ws good, &te Canadians rothe oversea mea expecially P. there we none who we quite so useful as the Clustialian - It ws then self rehause that made them
52 8 to valuable - He you Englishman was ratiaondenant game, but he was the not So self relieut. N.GOC.RF.C. (two dayslater Genl. Trencland told se White exactly I same thei abt the Canadians that they were in the tyn the beat of al pracisary, Corps, Gen. Frenchard has been having some negotiations with white about our Flyin Corges. He made several concession in a nanner wh sd-Lam prepared to give 7ou 5o much but te Corps - your Flying Corps-remains mine- + white sd it ws very clear to had her intention to let the Austialian Flyen Coys be considered as any thing else than a every of the R.E.C.

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told me tt / Germans had
turned onto them very heavily
tt morning - & had hit
one dugout - badly wd one
man & killed another. Gullett
ws talking at this time to a
sergt outside / mess room.
He joined us as we left. The
sergt ws a friend of his - a
late reinforcement ; & the
man who ws killed tt
morning ws another - only
four days at / front; such
a kind fine gentle chap,
he sd; white haired before
his time - a man without
the least of a quarrel in
him - one who wd not
hurt a mosquito if he
cd avoid it.
We went past
Sanctuary Wood - not

 

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thro' it because these woods
- all waterfilled shellholes & fallen
trunks & scraps of stumpy
branches & bushes are sort
of natural entanglements,
too difficult to get through quickly;
& one rather dreads what
one may meet there, unburied
men or the ugly debris of
war.  We walked round
past Dormy House (once at
Bn H.Q., in full view of
Hill 60.) & up to a ridge
from wh far to our left
we cd see green trees
(German country there)
& straight ahead a
brown bare ridge, with an
abandoned tank on it, &
a stump of a blockhouse
or something which they
sd was Stirling Castle. We

 

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Hand drawn diagram - see original

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found the 3rd Bty on
the front slope of this ridge
on the left o / track — the track
our guns had followed; &
some ploughed up ground
down / dip ahead, & /
brown ridge on / horizon
perhaps 800 or 1000yds
away
Hand drawn diagram - see original
Stirling Castle ws still in
possession o / Germans
when our guns came over.

 

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The observation onto them
was from there; but the
m.g. fire ws indirect fire
from further to / right than
this sketch shows.
We found all the
offrs of 1st 2nd & 3rd Btys,
except a couple of the 1st Bty,
down in a dugout in
on trench near the 2nd Bty. 
There ws a shell hole
abt 4 yds from / mouth o /
dugout - a big new one - &
two in / trench, fair in
it near / guns.  The
Germans had bn giving them
a dreadful time tt day -
on top of nearly  a month
of it. East ^ws down there,
East who only 2 wks before

 

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xAs we went back the
Germans turned 3, or 4 batteries
of 5 . 9s onto xxx English battery
positn near Dormy House
which we had passed on /
way up. This ws 3 times
repeated but we skirted
well round / left of the
bombt.

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had bn in a dugout w
Maj. Kingsmill & found himself
lying on / edge o / crater of
a shell wh blew Kingsmill
away out of existence. Poor
chaps — they have had /
Casualties of infantry &
have to stay there week after
week & see / infy go in & out
again time after time. They'll
have them broken if they
dont relieve them soon. They
say / bties ought to be kept
60 over strength . (10 ^additional now are
authorised in the A.I.F. & 60 or
50 extra to the D.A.C., wh is
something to provide reliefs). 
As we left old Hurley &
Gullet Wilkins & Dyson
there — Hurley is going /
right way to get his stuff.

 

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Wilkins took a picture o /
place where the ^101st battery was.
As Gullett & I came away it
started to pour as heavily
as ever I have seen it in
France – floods of it.  Poor
old photographers. I hope
they come to no harm.
We went to the old 3rd
Div. H.Q. to dine with Cuttack.
On our way there we picked
up Gen. Maclagan and
Duncan Maxwell & Kemmis -
 It burnt broken down in
their car. The Genl. had
bn to a performance of
some concert troupe at our
No 1 Tunnelling Coy. It turned
out tt he (w the 4th Divn) is
now at the Ravelsberg,
not the 3rd Div.; so he asked

 

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x Sept 3.
As a matter of fact it wd
have come over probly if
there had not bn discovered
what Col. Reynolds tells me
was an "astonishing" defect
in the construction o / planes.
One of the pilots is sd to have
fallen & bn burnt o / way to / coast

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us to dine instead. They have
had German planes over
of recent nights.  Gen.
Maclagan says tt it is
very trying to hear him up
there burring & droning round;
then hear him shut off his
engine: he must be planing 
down – then whurr –
whurr - urr – & you
wonder where the bomb is
going to fall and — Crash!
Somewhere about – & the
beggar is up & off again.
Aug 27  more rain - 
poor old photographers.
Our 67th Sqn cannot
come over in this weather. x
All day drawing up
a complete scheme for

 

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collection & care of trophies,
photos, sketches etc for submission
to White — largely on Gulletts
experience.  Gullet & I thrashed
it out this morning.  We are to
bring all the preservation
side under our own people,
& leave the publicity side to Smart.
Also a scheme for photos
& record titles to submit to G.H.Q.
Arranged with Griffiths,
who grasped it in an instant,
for an officer for our trophy -
photo - cinema section.
White grasped the scheme
also surprisingly quickly.
Saw in one instant the
reason for it; & vastly
improved it by withdrawing
the preservation section
entirely from the High
Commrs office & putting it

 

Aug 30 1
Aug 31 Frid.
Sept 1 Sat.
__ 2 Sunday
__ 3 M Stopped at Folkestone .
__ 4 T Leist & Power ) - News of Riga! G. Engs. & Reserve
Sept 5 W Hoograf
Sept 6. Th. Lombres 
Sept 7 F Murdoch re Liaison
change of offrs 
[*bombs
of London 
on 4 & 5th*]
Gullett re self - see White.  [*White on what we do.*]
Sept 8 Sat xWith Gullett to 3rd Div.
Sept 9. Sun 26 Bn. 4 [shorthand]
Sept 10. M With Montreuil
Sept 11 T  22 & 23 Bns & Cassel. News of Russian Civil War
[shorthand]
Sept 12. W Letters at Hazebk. Saw [shorthand]
Hot day. First cool autumn night.
Sept 17  The red flare. Lens. Lagniot
Sept 18. The German flare barrage.
The menin Rd.
The Dickeb. Rd by night
Gullett [[?]]
28 Bn on
track of 3 Bde
at at Poz.
2.30 all o.k.
11.45 Rogers
>[shorthand] -50 yds [shorthand]
11. Tape line laid.
Sept 19. Raining
12.10 rain stopped. v muddy
5.30 Bombt
quickening up
12 Bn [shorthand] 2.10.([shorthand]1.30)

Hand drawn diagram - see original

13 Th
14 F
15 Sat.

100 in 4
100 in 4.
100 in 6
100 in 8

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openly & explicitly under Treloar,
wh I had not thought he wd
do.
I am to go to England
for a day or two, perh. with
Gullett, & see it through in
order to arrange matters
with Smart.  Griffiths will
do everything else.
Brig Gen Game, superintendent Chief of Staff
of the xxx Royal Flying Corps. told
Butler today that without wishing
to butter up / Australians at all
he thought it was generally agreed
that while all the R.F.C. ws good,
& the Canadians & other oversea
men especially so, there ws
none who ws quite So useful
as the Australian. It ws their
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so valuable - the young
englishman was extraordinarily
game , but he was the not
so self reliant.
[Two days later Gen. Trenchard ^the G.O.C. RF.C. told Gen.
White exactly / same thing abt
the Canadians - that they were
the best of all so clearly in the Flying Corps].
Gen. Trenchard has
been having xxxxx some
negotiations with White
about our Flying Corps. He
made several concessions
in a manner wh sd - "I am
prepared to give you so much
but the Corps – your Flying
Corps – remains mine " – &
White sd it ws very clear tt
he was not had no intention to let the
Australian Flying Corps be
considered as any thing else
than a wing of the R.F.C. – 

 
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